to our own participation in the settlement of the karabakh conflict. we saw a tripartite meeting of foreign ministers in the united states, armenia, azerbaijan, how promising is all this ..." the attack was important because we understood the situation of russia and its failure and its failed invasion of ukraine, but for armenia, johnny had to do the threat from

all that remains for azerbaijan is a, but it is also clear that russia is now dangerous and unreliable, and for armenia, we also see that the usa and the european union a are more directly involved in the conflict in this region is more than ever before, if you even imagine that yerevan and baku find some kind of compromise on the issue of karabakh and on the issue of transport corridors, about which there are so many discussions now, will the armenian society accept this compromise, first of all, good news, belated recognition, painful recognition of armenia

that in 2020, we lost, we lost the war according to the compromises that were made, but we understand that there must be compromises on both sides and on the part of armenia and azerbaijan, and there are none some such military solution to this conflict . in addition, armenia and azerbaijan must return to diplomacy. and that is why we expect such a return to diplomacy next week, we hope in brussels, and the european union, not in russia, but in the european union can provide a platform for medical negotiations between these by two countries. we also see that the recent protests in armenia using

ukrainian flags in support of ukraine is something new for armenia and therefore it is a kind of challenge for of armenians in relation to dependence on russia. what can be the role of russia in this diplomatic solution? we see that russia is not very ready to come to an understanding with the government of the armenian avant-garde, one can say that it is betting on the position that still adheres to such a distinctly pro-russian course on the former president robert kucheryan on of the former president serzh sakhsyan and they are trying to strengthen their role in society, i remember that just a few days ago there was a meeting of the catholicos of regina ii with the presidents and petrosyan, saaksyan and kucheryav and this was once again shown by their capabilities in terms of influencing

public opinion. to what extent, in principle, can it be assumed that the armenian government may not pay attention to this role of russia, its position in relation to the current armenian leadership is a very good question and give a good answer the answer is that we now see how russia has demonstrated to the world and to ukraine, namely that it is not interested in diplomacy. we are also witnesses to the fact that russia in this region is not a loser. situation and it does not radiate confidence now, and because the current and democratically elected government is re-elected after the defeat in the war and it carries

a certain level of legitimacy and, accordingly, the demonstrations that are here alone, we understand that the armenian government is not the one that would be preferred by russia and putin of armenia does not challenge russia because we do not have such influence and power. we strive to find a balance in the west, and we also want to face any threat or even danger from russia in the near future. in the future, we must also understand how and recognize what ukraine's sacrifice was in relation to russia. armenia is part of the russian integration

structures, it is an organization of assistance to the collective security treaty, it is also the eurasian economic union. and this raises the question of the extent to which , in principle, the membership of these organizations is imposes certain obligations on non-armenians in relation, first of all, to moscow, because we saw an amazing situation when before moscow was preparing to lead troops to kazakhstan during the uprising in in this country, this decision was forced to be formalized by prime minister mykola koshanyan, it is almost an energetic situation when a person who led a rebellion in his own country legitimized the introduction of russian troops into another country where there was essentially the same rebellion. to not pay attention to its alliance obligations to russia russia can afford not to pay attention to its personal alliance obligations to armenia, but armenia to russia yes yes yes

we see that armenia is now a kind of me with him in relation to the membership in the akdb and other eurasian unions. so it is a kind of prison and it ties armenia's hands, but now we want here in armenia where we to demonstrate to the international community that we don't have many elections. and that's why we have to resist the aggression of russia and also the aggression of azerbaijan, and we understand that we are no longer friends . and promises for the armenian government russia's security of armenia is simply nothing, and

armenia is now trying to find a way in which it can exit the kcd and find some kind of exit strategy even before november, when yerevan will hold the next meeting of the summit er meeting in the kdb we er not georgia we not ukraine we we do not seek nato membership or eu membership, but we seek to strengthen our ties with the west in order to find a better balance for our survival. and in the face of a military attack from azerbaijan, the president of turkey, cardigan, emphasized that he is ready to meet with the prime minister, never and pashinyan in

the near future, what can be expected from such a meeting? fortunately, they did not affect the relations between armenia and turkey in any significant way. we expect such a meeting between the sides of armenia and turkey in november in order to continue our negotiations on the stabilization of our relations are a kind of good signal a-a demonstration of such a strategic vision on the part of armenia and therefore we expect that it is this manifestation of democracy and diplomacy that you will be able to help the representatives of azerbaijan and armenia to return to the negotiating table. we also see that at

some point russia may once again jeopardize this process of normalization of our relations , so we now have a lot of time and we are doing everything possible. there is an understanding in general in yerevan that if armenia and azerbaijan do not come to an agreement between themselves, they can independently count on the fact that they will get out of the political influence of russia is not worth the problem is that since the war in 2020 armenians in nagorno-karabakh they could not be sure of their safety every day because we we understand that the armenians in nagorno-karabakh do not trust azerbaijan, but they are not looking for

any help from azerbaijan, but the attack by azerbaijan on armenia has nothing to do with nagorno-karabakh. therefore, now we must actually solve a bilateral problem, and russia - it is common a threat to both armenia and azerbaijan, and therefore we understand that we are not talking to russia and we understand that our obligation is to resist pressure from russia, there is a huge problem that is not even related to the conflict of the state in conflict of peoples, you and i understand this very well armenians literally would not say at the everyday level azerbaijanis are not accepted azerbaijanis at the everyday level do not accept armenians in the last decades i would say from the very beginning of the karabakh conflict since 1988 for i just remember vividly

led to the fact that people who used to communicate with each other generally tried to maintain some kind of dialogue, they simply became strangers and enemies, imagine a time that you probably remember well when on the same uh-uh on the same floor in yerevan an azerbaijani-armenian family could live on the same floor in baku, armenian-azerbaijani now simply impossible and the question arises if from this cohabitation . to walk down one street in armenia or azerbaijan at such a distance that these wounds can be healed at all and can they be healed because i also have the impression that neither

armenians nor azerbaijanis have any awareness about the fact that this is bad and not good, i am somewhat optimistic in that regard, because as someone who moved to armenia 16 years ago from the united states, my optimism still remains, i am quite optimistic because the armenians and azerbaijanis have a very long the common history of living together is more than the time compared to the time of the conflict, and it is also important that, in my opinion, the challenges are not that there is a confrontation between armenians and azerbaijanis, but the main problem is that there is a political problem and armenia has it has a strong democracy, free legitimate elections and

a government while azerbaijan and we understand that the government of the country is run by a father and a son who have been running the country for more than 25 years. therefore, we need to enter there we need a democratic partner to preserve peace and for in azerbaijan, a conflict, a military conflict, is a way for them to stay in power. unfortunately, but for the people, i am still more optimistic, and that is why armenia also has the advantage of stability and legitimacy. thank you, mr. geruhotyan, i will remind you that our interlocutor on this broadcast was an armenian political scientist, the director of the center of regional studies from yerevan in the republic of armenia, richard hera gosyany. we talked with him about the current situation in the caucasus, and now we will move on to the topic of international and ukrainian at the same time literally in 1.5 hours, yes at 7:15 p.m. jews

will celebrate the new year 5,000 75,783 a large number of pilgrims from the group of hasidic religious communities came to celebrate this holiday in ukraine in uman at the grave of one of the famous figures of the hasidic religious movement, rabbi nachman e from bratslav, despite the fact that before the holiday there were serious concerns about the safety of these people and about the safety of this situation, we have the chief rabbi of ukraine mashera uven osman on the phone. treats that i think you will also have on your holiday table in an hour and a half, maybe you already have it, maybe you have already set the table. thank you all, i wish you a happy and sweet year. thank you

. you know what is happening now in uman. i was traveling with a large group of pilgrims on a train heading to uman, and i didn't see these people's understanding of the security situation in ukraine. to be honest , it's not that i didn't see understanding, i didn't see fear for my own life and safety. - first uh , i already i am already the last day of the week in israel on tv, they didn't call on tv, i warned, i said that please, please, please don't go to ukraine this year, because there is no possibility of this war, first of all, in ukraine today, yes to protect

uh , if the police soldiers are at the front, there is no such possibility, then russia can make a provocation, we’ll take care of ourselves, i explained it, explained it, but it didn’t affect it. but this is very very very very much very much very much well, there is really a lot of people really, oh thank god, they seem to conduct lectures in order to how to behave properly and it seems like er listens listens there is a curfew and everything follows the rules, the general rules, tell me, uh, you were, you said yourself, you were in israel , you met with the president and the duke regarding israeli support for ukraine, always arise in these 7 months, questions uh, in ukraine, many have the impression that the israeli government simply does not want to notice this common danger, which, by the way , is becoming more and more clear from the moment when ukrainians begin to see in their skies israeli drones, iranian drones, drones that are produced by the same state that set itself

for the purpose of destroying the state of israel, but there is still no such feeling, you see, it still does not change israel's idea of ​​how it should react to this war as a common danger, see i work i work for a long time in order to slightly change public opinion in israel and not only that the public, in principle, the people of israel are in favor of ukraine, even the majority of russian -speaking people, somewhere around 75%, are in favor of ukraine, even the exit from russia , the majority are in favor of ukraine, and here i was meeting, yes, and congratulating my president from the head of the position, i thought that there are no prime ministers for this reason and i met with the head of books politicians i managed to bring here mir porkata no last week mir barkada ex - meister of the country and who has 10 years of peace перегху лидероврт-пегут a man who from the very beginning was er less

shot but he supported ukraine and he, for example, declared to us that he came to us первый здесь открыту овой в met with the head of the parliament of the verkhovna rada and mayor klitschko, the name of the figures and he here announced that what will be done to do everything to israel so to say that israel must keep and accept open to ukraine to the side of the truth to the world for today also a holiday the other day not too much 7 months ago, he made the first application, which is quite normal . he said that when we become prime minister, we have done everything that will be done to protect ukraine. in ukraine, i literally explained to him in detail what is happening here . russia russia commits war crimes. i hope it gradually begins. the point is that russia is all blackmailers, this is israel. this is exactly what is happening. in syria, iran, the russian is here , it is the russian presence, but today. what is

ukraine? i think i tried to convey this to israel. it seems that the russian army is not as terrible as it was feared, that is. and that is why. it seems to me that you knew that soon a big trouble will happen. it seems that they are starting to help. only this самое не только мы э-э медицинская более серьёзными вещамы i wanted to talk to you about such a delicate topic as the position of the jewish communities in russia itself regarding this war. we saw that the jewish religious leaders took a completely different position, the chief rabbi of moscow left his post altogether and left russia after threats. as far as i understand, the heads of religious communities in russia also did not support vladimir putin's war, what are the consequences of all these

attitudes? well, i chose it a long time ago at the very beginning , at the beginning of the war, and turned to... comes down from the iron, enter the word soviet soyuztorskaya, stalin becomes a hero, and uh , i said that you need to leave there before it's too late . when i was mobilized today, by the way, look at my facebook. today, i made a statement if the volunteer is playing a slave to the main body of ukraine. i made a statement of congratulations and i appealed to the jews of russia so that they would not go to ukraine to fight if they were to be forcibly mobilized, then the first time they stood . to go to the second place, so that if they were to refuse in any way that they are not

jewish, the leaders also take part in the meaning of the act of buying people, not attacking another country, even though jews must быть законопошлунный и программу тур это какзать закон государство та закон well, when the state - it gives significant decrees, the jew does not have to serve them, he does not have the right, therefore, i called him to refuse if he had to come to russia. yesterday, the death of the president became a rather serious symbol of this war, the death of people who survived the holocaust, there was such a situation in kharkiv , and there was such a situation in mariupol, people who experienced the holocaust in childhood and youth hitler's occupation, were they killed by russian bombs or did they simply die of hunger in bomb shelters in the basement? what can religious communities do for

the elderly and what is the humanitarian component of your activity today? once to run away, or you know, i remember this woman who was with us in the first days that on the last train, i abandoned a girl in the 41st year, a girl, and that's how she escaped, escaped the holocaust, she fled now of the russians and ran and ran to germany, arrived two weeks later , she could not stand it, died, that is, i was even with the righteous alexander slobodianik, who saved the jews during the second world war , and was awarded eh, well, fences, how do you say yarmashima institute eh eh ralph's museum, and i wasn't there, and a few

weeks later, he also died. survived the second time, it was eh girls survived the horopost сейчас опаить бежала, well, ukraine is in captivity, сейчас well, in short, many many tragedies are scary and x will ask, i forgot the question they asked again, here i was asking you about the humanitarian component activity, this was a continuation of what you say , eh, pray, we really, we, in the afternoon, and at night , we are engaged in helping people, we give them and how i go, is it so big? medicines are here for the generator that will go. we bought them in europe for when it will be cold, so that cities that do not have electricity or heat, so that they help at roadblocks we bought 16 hospitals, we bought an air conditioner, and when it works both in the cold and

in the heat, eh, we made water purification equipment in places where water is needed, many other things can’t even be transferred, we work with a lot of other volunteer organizations, which we seriously we work . gave me the opportunity to be present. we need the same necessary time so that i can . hard times when you have to celebrate new year's celebrations, but you know what , here i am, that's how i was asked about such a meal, i answer, uh, the new year of money, a wife in the jewish

tradition, that's right, that's a dual feeling from one side, this day is here when the almighty judges all the peace and every person, and that's when the court understands the lack of laughter and the lack of joy on the other hand. sides, i say that this is the case in ukraine today, such a tragedy is happening. from what country, i say to all ukrainians, let's be optimistic . operator eh, we are praying for victory, we are praying for our situation, we will break through the shafar, now there will be a testament, once an anniversary, when we are a dear lamb, she proclaims everything to the kingdoms. with these sounds

, a new life descends. so that here in ukraine everyone came to life, he made a bigger result. it is only to consolidate its victory against a big, big aggressor who is powerful, that's why i said that the strength is not in missiles and in numbers, the army is the strength in the spirit of force. he is the population of ukraine, so i'm just a woman, we're going to do it, we 're going to pray that the messiah will come, that's how to say that with god's help, when to say that the cars will come, eh, in english, the prophet, that then the wars will end, all the soldiers and people will be already happy and well-material in spirit thank you and once

again i wish you a happy and peaceful most important holiday, let's hope that this year he will bring mouse to the ukrainian land and to all those who long for this peace, we had the chief rabbi of ukraine masha ven azman on the air now in about an hour, the new year of 5,783 according to the jewish religious calendar will begin, jews all over the world meet this holiday hoping for positive changes. live in a state of unmotivated military aggression by one of the most brutal states in the modern world of the russian federation and the leadership of this state, which essentially consists of war criminals themselves, is not going to stop in its aggressive intentions and is trying to do everything possible

to destroy the ukrainian state in order to bring the ukrainian people to their knees to blackmail the civilized world now with nuclear weapons and always, as is known from the entire history of mankind, against such a pure malice of which it has become a symbol the russian federation is helped by the courage of those who defend their country and those people who are destroyed as much as possible by the aggressors and do not give them the opportunity to carry out their criminal plans, but quite often and this is also evidenced by human history , a miracle helps, which in one way or another symbolizes the victory of good over this pure evil and prepares for evil, a grave from which it will never be able to recover, and i really hope that with russia 's war, putin's war will be precisely so that we will see the death of evil and rejoice in this death, as always people who see the punishment of evil on

own so now i will pass on my words to my colleagues ani ye melnyk who will introduce you to the current news for this hour please greetings dear tv viewers this is news and the espresso team is ready to talk about the most important thing let's start the situation in the south in the south direction on our defenders around 3 p.m. another kamikade drone was shot down