and the drones, again, on the surface, 40 of them are used for mine action. i think that this is really an ideal option for us, because if you combine the delta, it blows with the meaning of tarkhat, it is a rudder, then all that will be in the north will be depths of up to 50 m and this is such a klondike for mines for mine warfare. there are a lot of mines now, and in order to neutralize them, you will need a lot of these means, and a trench trench costs 50-100 million dollars. well, drones, for example, which can do practically the same thing, but not like that far and far away no need, they cost us, again, one to two orders of magnitude less, and such systems are also on the market, that is, the main thing is that we need these tasks that must be performed to achieve some operational

effect . to write to the resource that exists and when we do this brandstorming , we will see that the drone will be complete more platforms, but they cost more. yeah, but that’s also necessary, but you have to wait to see how many resources you have and also the basing system. the basing system should not be forgotten because, unfortunately, we don’t have it. all the bases were in crimea. and in 8 years, we they never built anything, they started building, but we know that they didn’t build it, but for those, let’s say . well, submarines and large ships, well, ochakiv , as a base point, it won’t work, we can now see

why it is constantly being shelled, we need to look for it . again, everything needs wealth these are the initial ones positions for the construction of defenses and they must correspond to the resources that are available, based on this, i can say that drones are a very good option for us at the current stage and they will allow us to use them to perform those tasks , including the neutralization of forces enemy in the crimea area, ivan, you researched an interesting piece of news concerning the fact that the russian administration in the temporarily occupied crimea announced that the forces of the black sea fleet discovered and blew up an unknown unmanned boat that supposedly belonged to the navy to the forces of ukraine, the photo of this drone was publicly available, you actually wrote that this is the first time when a kamikaze boat appears in the

information plane a, but what is behind the scenes of this information , is there any understanding at all? side , what is your understanding of this case, which well really has several components in its manifestation well, in short, we have to consider three versions at once, because in addition to such confirming data in favor of one of the so far, the first version is really the most optimistic that it was our kind of torpedo wire or something on a destroyer from the time of the russian-turkish war, it looks quite technological, there is a nice sensor for sterling and optics, an electronic station and even contact detonators for blowing up the ship, but the first thing is that it is not stock, what if they promised to give us allies, something , it is rather for the tasks of coastal defense, not a stock friend, if it really was something different and high-tech, the russians would have done it.

here they hastened to detonate the device in the sea. therefore, there is a second version, which may also have the right to exist, that it is the russians who bought some such subject to the iranian-made drontamikadze for an attempt at sabotage on the same grain corridor, because they are unlikely to openly shoot at civilian ships they will risk but try to detonate something. well, according to this iranian style of provocations , they may well. just this may indicate why they hurried to detonate this device from the other side of similar units that are in service in iran we haven't seen north korea, although it's just those narrow countries that like to brag about such technological novelties, so there may be a third option that, in addition to that , the russians themselves decided to mold something similar to a high-tech weapon in order to, let's say, reinforce this mood so that the crimea this is a fortress that is besieged by fires. we have some data that you boat moved to the mainland

and part of the guard, others are some coast guards of the black sea fleet, but there may be an excuse, look, we are in danger here an unknown weapon with unknown characteristics of the relative danger we must flee well, this is how the situation looks like for now mr. andrii, you are the developer of the strategy for the development of the naval forces until 2035, this strategy provided for several components and what they actually were logically, one of the components just related to the bids on the mosquito fleet as the most effective option in comparison with the construction of powerful corvettes of the ada type, but please explain the advantages of the mosquito fleet and how now we should combine this corvette a, which is being added to the hull which is being completed in turkey with limited financial opportunities, which you talked about when commenting on the situation regarding robotic platforms as

financial constraints. by the 35th year, we broke down more precisely well, that period was three stages because we predicted that in the first five years we would have about 100-150 million dollars a year for the development of the navy, the next year it turns out to be up to 400, then up to 600 million a year of opportunities of the economy. it turned out that from the 18th to the 20th, before the start of the war, we had about 3 billion hryvnias for the development of the navy for a year, and we calculated that at the first stage, the e predicted that the main tasks would be carried out in the near in the maritime zone, that is, it can be 40,100 nautical miles from the coast , that is, where our shipping is going, where it is critical that we do not pack our ships, we do not

think about the central part of the black sea , russian submarines will operate mainly, we thought about the mediterranean the sea and so on and for that in order to solve the problem of control of shipping , security and in the area of ​​protection against aggression, we calculated that we need these weapons, we need missiles, torpedoes , artillery, anti-mine systems, radars, to put them on small boats, and because one ton of a surface ship costs, well, in fact, any country 150,000 dollars one ton of metal well, maybe 3,000 yes that is, this is the skill of a person, it increases the cost of the price of the raw materials for the technological product and we calculated that for 5 years we can to fit into the budget of 1 billion dollars, and we chose

three types of platforms that would perform these tasks - these are missile boats, they had to be built in great britain, there was already a developed project there, and so there will be 8 missile boats with eight missiles , 64 missiles. so what do we not have now enough, and the second - it should have been the american catherine mark vi, which would have been engaged in cleaning our coast, provided the enemy's drg to land , carried out anti-mine measures, and here are the patrol ships, which patrol, which would have looked where of the opposing uh-uh, so that these allens would carry out measures there, as well as patrolling a-uh, well, well, again , we needed a base on this, all all the boats, and uh, when we brought it to our partners, the main americans and british, then they are even americans

to us they agreed to hand over the boats for free , and oh where to put weapons on them for free, and the british provided a loan for the construction of boats and were ready to build them for us both on the black sea and on the azov sea, well, you understand what concerns the corvette, i think that the motor cutter is needed photo, but not now, because it performs its tasks, well, let's say mainly in the central part of the black sea and parts outside it, it carries 8 cruise missiles, just like the boat, they are needed, but the boat costs 5-6 times more than the boat and i frankly speaking, for the cost of this corvette, it would be better to build five times six boats and have this capability in the form of eight missiles , for example, and the 48 sea, and this is important, in addition, the corvette , we understand that this will be the number one for

the russians this component is, let's say, very good charismatic or symbolic, very serious, they will immediately directly introduce thinking to, well , this corvette. well, he also needs a base, because the base was planned for chakiv, and it is suitable for ochakov, because this base suits me in many ways, and it is far away from the area of ​​its use and it is dangerous, and there, well, there are also serious dangers in the depths , that is why well, the ship is very good. as far as i know, there are also many questions about the weapons there, because, well, the original ship, but the weapons there is an american one or approval only for the construction of the transfer of these weapons for turkey, not for ukraine. it may take time, so i think that this ship is needed at the later stages

of the development of the navy. we are thinking behind them and they have, er, a sufficient number of missiles in order to, well, neutralize and destroy it, but it will have a serious, negative impact on us, as well as exactly what was the secret cruiser moscow according to andrii. thank you for these interesting explanations, and we literally have 1 minutes. i would like ivan, the corps, to briefly say what is most important to us in order to protect our economic interests in the black sea using military potential . in your opinion, you know. i think that after this experience with blocking ports, when you were in our economy, we received many billions eh losses in dollars alone, the agricultural sector alone is 10 billion dollars, in principle you cannot ask yourself the question that we do not have resources for the fleet and that we should save on the photo i think that we will need

a system of all kinds, as if promising drones, yes, and actually large surface ships or, let’s say, missile boats, of course, the question is in what time frame we can get all those means, because it ’s like that. it’s still better to bet on drones here in terms of what we can get faster, but and we should not forget about the ships either, because i repeat, we can no longer afford to economize, mr. andriy, your brief summary is that we need, first of all, we need to protect the near sea zone and we need the ability of ani platforms, we need weapons at sea, and we need to spend resources, well, we have funds, where are we? and only for the front , the state needs a lot right now, so i think that we should concentrate as much as possible on the capabilities of our near sea zone. thank you all for these professional comments. of the espressov channel was ivan krychevsky , a military expert of the defense express, and also

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hotline finance insurance of course online good afternoon viewers espresso with you war and sport i am oleksandr vashchuk and today we are talking about the spring about the national team of ukraine which in fact presented just different emotions from defeat and bitter defeat to a simply fantastic victory yesterday as always with me andriy malinovskyy we are waiting for andriy andriy now so we want to start with the fact that on wednesday there was a league of nations match scotland-ukraine, a game where in fact, well, it would have been worth playing anyway from such a cautious position, uh, a draw, everything suited the national team ukraine because there was an advantage in terms of loans in terms of points in the table, and it did not turn out as expected. oleksandr petrakov chose the team for this match. what was

it ? this is the national team of ukraine, of course, but also at the goal, bushan was probably not enough, but we can see that they held on in the first half, and then in the 70th minute of the game and in the 80th minute, give ex 187. there are just two identical goals from a corner where the national team of ukraine just lost and the mood of the fans specialists of football players the coach was simply extremely depressing. i suggest you join the team chosen by oleksandr petrakov. hi, andrii , what was your mood after this match. good day, first of all, to all our fans, you, sasha, to all supporters of the ukrainian national team,

here is this match . all in all, i would consider it as a football week for our team and for our fans, because the emotions ranged from fiasco to triumph and from 0.3 from scotland to 5:0 defeat, and even more so if in 98 so argentina and jamaica didn't play against each other. i think today the guy would sing the move invented by us and you . how much our team is capable of showing a high level of play in principle, but the armenia match, despite the fact that it is clear that it is not a top opponent, but still, the team is not an easy team, so at home, the irish team also beat a very strong opponent, so we we understood that the team leading the game was playing against us.

by the way, hawking kaporos is a well-known spanish specialist , we understood that the team was playing, which was not a sweet bun and it was necessary to make an effort. well, the most important factor here is motivation, which worked for our team, and again, the coach's handwriting . said everything because oleksandr petrakov gave up experiments and switched to his working scheme, which brought results here, not just results, but also a sure result , a 5:0 victory and that is, we have this week one of the worst matches in the history of our national team from the scottish team and one of the best matches in the history of our national team match with armenia in the national team of scotland played, so to speak, such experienced players, mostly there were already experiments with armenia, so we have a question in youtube audience is it traditional or worth it count on a sharp change of generation in the national team of ukraine, the answer is yes, you need to set the squad or not, experienced players still give results. so, vote at the end of the issue, we will let you know what we are leaning towards and maybe oleksandr

petrakov is looking at the consequences, he will decide to do the same, in fact, we are asking a more strategic question today. although if so, well, at a short distance, and at the closest distance, look at the 27th, when the match with scotland will take place, it is already a real final. in the summer, we played the semi-finals of the championship qualification of the world. now we are playing the final of the league of nations, our final for winning division b, for entering division a, and qualifying for the european championship. therefore, the question here is which team should go to the match against scotland, that is, who failed the game, well, that's it weeks or something that won the match in armenia or the mix, well, now we see the team that we can say failed the game with scotland, but now we see the main team because, after all, we understood that scotland is our direct competitor a direct opponent with whom you need to play only for a win

, they set themselves up for a win so as not to think about a draw , in order to secure a place in the division in advance, and to win the division would be that way, but it was not possible to win, moreover, we were torn because we conceded with a score of 0 :3 and everything is completely according to the game, because we did not make a single shot on target, but again, compared to the match with armenia, armenia also scored four shots on target on our shots, we scored six shots on target . here we can say that it is possible, armenia was not very lucky there and we, on the contrary, almost everything flew in, but in this match we did not have a chance even for one goal. this is one of the worst matches in history when these statistics are kept, that is, based on the created moments , they calculated that we could somehow score one tenth of the head, so it was a stretch because,

well, little by little, we collected some mini chances, although again we considered this the composition of the team in the context of the fact that the selection of the coaching staff was considered the main one, although conclusions will definitely be drawn, because we saw that, first of all, there will be no goalkeeper, he has to play for molodizhka today. molodizhka will also play on the 27th with slovakia the return match, the match that decides the fate of our youth national team of ukraine at the european championship of the 23rd year, which will take place in the summer of next year, that is, there will be no trumpet, but now, after a dry match, andriy lunin should go out. i'm already asking questions because mykhailichenko will definitely not appear on the left wing, that's why mykolenko is in great shape and he played a great match, he was not enough in the match with scotland and once again i say what you say no, i do not agree with you there i agree about what we are going to do next

. mykolenko stood first. it was very important to score the ball in the first half and mykolenko made a very important shot in the corner. it seemed that the attack was choking, but he found a way out and gave it away. and the aggravation started immediately, then she went to pass the gypsy over there zubkov by the way, we can mention that they took part in the first two goals of our national team there, it is important that they played for a long time in the juniors. for the second goal, gypsykov passed the ball between the legs to zubkov, it was also very important, because there were two defenders of zinkov, zubkov passes the ball into the goal. the role of mykolenko was very important . now, after all , petrakov is not even ready to stand here . and after all, the demands of the leaders of the ukrainian national team, who tried to prove, and to a large extent

, partially proved that it was convenient for us to play in four defenders, well, at least in the previous at that stage in the qualification for the european championship or the world championship in the european zone however, now it is possible that we should play just that defenders, despite the fact that we need to win, well, now we have five goals, we played three central defenders, five goals were scored both in the national team and in armenia but what is the difference there was a uh modulation just before the matches against scotland. three defenders can easily go out and we have enough powerful central defenders who can now play right in the center of the defense and the first thing that is prohibited is his return because he he missed the disqualification for matches against scotland . kryvtsov can easily play under the power play here. the coaching staff saved him, they replaced him with matvienko, and matvienko himself can play the 3rd central defender, but on the right wing, we understand with you. most likely, koncha plays such a match that gave timchyk well, how can you not bet now on the 27th, well, and you agree that timchyk, if you compare these two matches, he is much better there

, a head higher than karavaev, he played at the same speed. i think there, if he chooses timchyk, then karavaev will not have any questions for petrakov, but if he does not put malinovsky yermolenko, then this is where the conflict begins. it seems to me that the conflict is ripe , and here it is worth watching the reaction of petrakov's decision, because here we actually understand that they are the untouchables and yarmolenko and malinovsky why didn't they play in the start at least yarmolenko why didn't he play because he was resting and er recovering after the match failed the match with scotland but in this match still er yarmolenko failed the match with er scotland and tsygankov played a great match and tsygankov's participation in two goals is statistically so nominal. maybe we don't emphasize it because he scored the goal. zubkov scored in the second goal. in the first, on the contrary, zubko gave the team and scored, but in the two goals tsygankov gave this pass to a sharp cut. and this is what he missed, it was very important

, he gathered the defenders on himself, he missed and gave zubkova to be completely alone and break through without obstacles, we will show what happened with scotland in the duels, that the defense, that the attack was not finalized that's why. well, let's show it about martial arts to lose. hmm, there are too many martial arts attacks, the same yarmolenko , dovbyk mudryk, these are the players who were supposed to create, but no , they couldn't do it, so we lost the attack , uh, again, we note that our attack is dependent dependent on the middle line from the defense and almost there we didn't fight we see that we didn't fight because here the lines of the attack line were broken and the defense lines were broken and they were practically hungry our attacking footballers without support it is very difficult here, it is very important in this context, when there is pressing, when there is a pick-up from the bottom, when

you have such a platform of supporting possessions, we understand that it was much easier for our attacking players to fight, and here is what we noted with you dolbyk the day before the match studio and before the match at the republican stadium of beliefs dubo, it is much easier from the point of view of psychology to come in as a substitute, which he proved the day before and scored two goals, gave the goal to ignatenko and became one of the most useful football players, despite the fact that he played only half a half. well, two goals once, and these two goals, they bring out the dovbyk in one of the best of these players who come to replace the jokers, equalized with andriy vorobei and beardless roman, they have five goals each from substitutions, there are footballers who find it very difficult to come on as a substitute, on the contrary it is easier for him to come on as a

substitute the record needs a second one, after all, andriy yarmolenko needs to be in good shape as well as coming out, uh, andriy yarmolenko needs a replacement well, yesterday, uh, he came out, he understood that he would not play in the start to armenia and he understood that he was preparing before the match against scotland. that is, we can still predict with you that it is not gypsies, but yarmolenko, who will appear in the starting line-up for the match against scotland. well, maybe he will already be in shape , after all, there is remobilization after the united arab emirates, where he performs during andriy yarmolenko will end in a few years, and perhaps such a decision will be appropriate precisely in the context of the fact that, after all, andriy yarmolenko is now the main star of the ukrainian national team, in addition to all these leadership qualities, as a captain, how to start a team, he is an important thing, a very important aspect because the presence of andrii yarmolenko in the starting line-up definitely gives additional confidence to all football players. therefore, now

we definitely understand that there will be a mixed line-up at the scotland match, that is, most likely will be in the goal, here is the question: will the coaching staff play with three central players or two central players? and i think that it is possible to calmly go out with three central defenders, but again, we remember how the leaders turned to oleksandr petrakov and asked to play four defenders, and this is a very important moment. by the way if we do not draw conclusions, then i think it will be very difficult to defeat this scottish national team, which interrupted us not only by the game, or the presidency in the match with ireland, but losing to the irish with a score of 0:1, the scots equalized the score and then won through and scored a penalty what does the opposition do for scotland? they are satisfied with a draw

. we won't make it if we draw and for the draw there are the best second place e also gets into the second basket in the euro draw and a draw will settle ukraine for the draw yes but still we need to win the e-e group we need to return to the division and still we want to play with our feet, well, it's more interesting for everyone , for fans, for football players, because there will be progress. when we play not from armenia, and when we play with spain, with france, with england, with other tops of european football. look, we won't play with england because england was relegated to the beta. well, maybe here we will wait for them, well, there are other good national teams with whom we would like to play, and switzerland, which can stay now after the victory over spain, we would like to take a real such football revenge against this national team if the draw if we make it to the division and if

switzerland stays there if we are in the same group with them so on september 27 krakow stadium krakow e ukraine scotland match where again we still need a win we hope so the fan support will be much greater than, for example, at the match of dynamo in the eurocups in the same krakow. well, i think that there will be a full house at this match, because after all, the national teams are playing here, and this is the final. for the third place, relatively speaking, no one needs it, well, roughly speaking, that's what i mean. and here we are playing for the first place. for the entry into the division, for the victory, and in the group, therefore, i think that plus additional places at the european championship, that 's why i think that, uh, it will be sold out at this match eh interesting will be cheering for the ukrainian national team for the first time, where many of our emigrants currently live in poland, and plus, even just polish fans, i think that they will also be interested in watching such

an interesting match, such a good match, taking into account the quality of the scots and now after 5:00 we can say that we have also chosen again, we have found our form , we hope that we will play well, there is no need to adjust in the same way, when a draw was actually arranged in ukraine, dad, to play for a draw is well doomed. when you play on that direction, we play and all the more so in scotland there are losses, paterson trained with us and yesterday terni was injured and was also taken off the field well, yes, there are losses, we also have losses. to calculate, but again , i hope that ruslan malinovsky made conclusions after the match with scotland, many of our stars suffered from them, and they thought that after another time we won in scotland and we came out as favorites in the match against scotland, despite the fact that he