we found no more in the public domain, i mean in the media, on propaganda resources , on our resources, etc. we found no more than 100 pieces of information - 100 examples of the work of members of election commissions, because there were simply no members of the commission, our partisans they cut down, sent to the morgue , blew up the so-called headquarters of united russia, where passporting was conducted and a referendum was organized, they had no databases, etc. it will be held there after a sufficiently long period of time here in three days they organized it means that they just need a picture in order for them to have infrastructure the recipient of this picture is the russian audience, first of all the russian

audience all perfectly understand that neither europe nor america neither an adequate or democratic world will not accept this, and what’s more, in the declaration of inadmissibility, a referendum on non-acceptance was made by the majority of states even before it was held, and therefore now it is important for the russian viewers because the so-called referendum they are trying to sell their viewers as a victory for putin and suffering defeats defeats at the diplomatic and foreign policy level he was actually slapped by both china and india and the influential countries of the world in their disasters about what is happening with the mobilization, the attempt to set fire to the makhachkala military commissariat in general there reached the confrontation with law enforcement agencies is a serious enough problem, and therefore they will try to sell the so-called referendum as putin's victory, the victory of

special operations, as they will speak, they will show great results and a flawless picture with birobidzhan and with the representatives of european countries, how will they speak, etc. well, in europe, they have already reacted to this referendum, the chief diplomat of the european union, jose borei, said that the eu does not recognize illegal referendums, warned russia about further sanctions, the european parliament emphasized that none referendums will not change the position on ukraine well, nato secretary general jens stoltonberg said that the so-called referendum is a further escalation of putin's war, he said when answering questions about these referendums, we are effective referendums jenston-stottenberg said they have no legitimacy and do not replace the nature of russia's pro-armor war against ukraine. this is a further escalation of putin's war. the international community must condemn this , a flagrant violation of international law, and strengthen support for ukraine. regarding the escalation, what about us? well,

next, join on the 10th. threats of nuclear weapons. are ukraine and the world community ready for such blackmail? please , this is a very difficult question. we can expect two variants of the development of events. the first is the so-called the crimean scenario, when they draw big numbers, they will approve the guest of the duma, they will send it to putin for his signature, and in a winning format they will say that we have annexed certain territories, unlike crimea, there they already recorded the annexation of crimea, here i will remind you that even zaporizhzhia, the center of the zaporizhzhia region, is under control ukraine will remain under the control of ukraine, that is, the residents of zaporozhye did not take any referendum at all, not even a theoretical pseudo or imitation. in order to organize any process that will resemble a referendum or elections in the occupied territories, you need to involve at least 100,000 people

as members of the commission, there are none there at all. that is , people put these or other marks with automatic machines, and despite the fact that they are putting, they are not actively putting inactive and put in the case when it is armed people who come to them, but we may have a second more er in a positive development for us, although we do not know and have no idea how diplomacy works, in what number, but at least western media reports that putin was informed by various western leaders about the consequences of the so -called referendum and possible nuclear strikes . there may be a delay with the recognition of the results of the referendum

, with a delay with the decision of the state duma, with a discussion of what the decision may be, and it all depends on the continuation of the negotiation process. at least in a sub-national format. and what can be the reaction to the holding of referendums? and well, you connect it to the use of nuclear weapons in the referendum, the world's reaction will be, well, effective, not just not recognizing it, it must be extremely tough, but we can see that starting from february 24, the reaction of the west uh, the collective event is uh, it takes place in a slow format, that is, they understand that the war can drag on, they understand that uh, there can be uh, various formats of negotiations and leave additional arguments to us of course, we would like it to be a massive strike on energy resources, we would like it to be an

economic strike with the actions of india and china in order to succeed in convincing india and china of such tougher sanctions, we would like them to be renewed the supply of weapons , including airplanes, including aviation. but i think that everything will fall into the formula i, which joe biden said. that is, we will look at the threats and, based on the depth of the threats or the power of russia, we will apply the next sanction package very thank you, mr. oleksiy oleksiy koshyk, the head of the voter committee of ukraine was with us. about the pseudo-referendum that the russians are holding in the temporarily occupied territories , we add igor chalenka, a political and economic

analyst , an expert. good morning. well, let's continue this topic, dear friends from fanation times, published an article that says that the west is preparing a response scenario to russia's use of radio nuclear weapons in the west in the capitals, they are thinking about response plans in the event that putin resorts to using nuclear threats and do not publicly send warnings to the kremlin about the possible consequences, although the allies believe that putin's defeat is unlikely to be realized and do not signal a change in strategy, they still increase monitoring and deterrence if he thinks that the threat was intended to induce ukraine to capitulate or concede twenty percent of its territory or to intimidate all of us from further assistance to ukraine, the opposite has happened said high-ranking officials from the usa, two other western interlocutors note that in response to a nuclear strike against ukraine, there is unlikely to be an equivalent response, but russia can receive a response from the western allies with conventional

military means, they will later quote what finance says there, what do you think about the possible response of a collective measure or a collective world on god forbid the use of nuclear weapons ihor shulenko please, the west will not swallow such a step, it is obvious, but again, you are right now, well, in fact shows that there is a whole range of means, how nato countries and the united states will use them, respectively. and what response will be used separately, i don't think that we should expect a direct nuclear strike there, the answer will be in the center of decision-making in the russian federation for sure it won't happen, because we all understand that now the goal of the event is, well, in fact, not to take this last step before the third world war. and when

nuclear strikes between the countries begin, everything will be completely clear. i think that it will be here all the same, the strengthening of sanctions pressure, er, the policy regarding the provision of aid to ukraine has been completely changed in relation to the built-in, because we can see that there is indeed a certain inertia in relation to the provision of this aid . well, of course, it doesn't make it any easier for us. but nevertheless, i think that putin is still trying to raise the stakes so much that the west today agrees to a truce, so that the russian federation today established itself in those territories where it is located in order to postpone the conflict for at least the next year and then continue there, because

today it is obvious that in the state in which they are , we see that even the mobilization is the so-called partial, which is carried out in russia it will not strengthen the federation in any way, and today the position of the kremlin and, accordingly, today everything is aimed at raising only to the absolute, but in fact, my personal opinion. i think that putin somewhere inside himself has already made a decision that he is ready to use nuclear weapons, but he is still restrained by two positions, firstly, he understands that today there is no general good will in the russian federation to stand up, the country is huge , despite the indicators of sociology that a is officially published, and secondly, he still does not fully understand what the west will do in order to , after this tactical nuclear strike, how the west will act against the kremlin, and these two positions are holding it back today, so how will the west act so that they will continue to write about the other’s good times, our times

colleagues three out of five interlocutors say that nato member countries have not publicly conveyed signals to the kremlin about the scale of the response to any use of yaz, and in their opinion , warning of a response continues to be the best deterrent. what consequences will this have for the status of russia as a pariah country , one of the american interlocutors of the publication told, according to him, they have already discussed the possibility of the scenario with the ukrainian side. well, the publication continues to write that the deployment of nuclear weapons for application is a long complex process and will be quickly noticed by the intelligence satellites of the west dmytro well, i already read that this cobra plane what is its name which monitors nuclear weapons in russian has already taken off and is already being monitored your comment on this material defends shell times and what could they really be that was reported not publicly to the russians, please?

well, not to all russians, but to the high political leadership at the highest level, as we were told j7 a-a national security adviser of the united states of america uh, look at my point of view, hmm, putin is not that he can use nuclear weapons, not that he is thinking about it. he has an irresistible desire to use nuclear weapons, because in my opinion, for him, the use of nuclear weapons is the only chance to leave russia among countries er, well, the most powerful countries in the world, yes, the nuclear club, he wants to emphasize the use of nuclear weapons, eh, this is the first, the second, eh. of course, his military operation eh is failing. puts on the line er there seven are not executed militarily for objective reasons for them and the west

really says listen putin has done more than one stupidity already er starting there with the seizure of crimea and even more so starting from february 24 and er well, everyone is of the obvious opinion that he can do an even greater opportunity, namely to use nuclear weapons, that's why we really hear a lot of such reports, already public, about what was not publicly reported to putin and all other leaders, what will happen if such a weapon will be used once uh secondly, we can actually already see the statements of the president of ukraine that putin is not bluffing when he talks about the use of nuclear weapons, and at the same time, lavrov and the organization of the poor nations, the organization that was created in order to prevent or quickly stop any war, and even more so when we speak about the world's obvious

use of nuclear weapons - this is the beginning of the third world war, the whole world, the whole of ukraine, the whole of the west - you understand that, and why is everyone really tense now and understand that nuclear weapons can be used after all, putin is raising the stakes, well, his high political leadership is precisely because they cannot come to an agreement with ukraine. they see that ukraine has absolutely serious intentions to liberate all our territories, where to occupy everything, including crimea, and we will go to at the end of uh and uh, we will liberate our territory, the west and the public and non-public confirmed that they in ukraine will not interfere with this, on the contrary, they will only help us, the west is really helping us with rammstein 53 weapons, plus countries with money because we need to saturate the budget. and so on and therefore well, putin's only possibility to somehow scare

someone is to scare the west so that there will not be a third world war, and a nuclear one, so that the west stops providing ukraine with weapons and, er, money, and said ukraine, let's stop the operation somewhere on some borders, but the west can no longer do this to do because he understands that nuclear blackmail if it works at least once here in ukraine, more precisely around ukraine, then it will work constantly and the world will turn into absolute horror , so we really heard from blinkin that a clear plan has been developed, what will be done by the united states of america if nuclear weapons are used, and it is obvious that the u.s. and nato forces will not bombard russia with nuclear weapons, according to many international military experts, the united states and nato forces have a non-nuclear weapon that can deliver such

powerful blows, including decision-making centers in the russian federation, such as moscow, in st. petersburg, well , in that bunker, eh, in which putin will be, and putin was informed well, as far as we hear from different with information, where he was, he always knows where he is. he is always under control, and no matter how far the bunker is, it will still be destroyed, and there is a suitable weapon for this, and it is not nuclear, that's why i think that this is an extremely serious jumping factor for putin and for several people in his entourage , but in my opinion the fact that they have now so publicly begun to activate the topic of a nuclear strike and the response to a nuclear strike there tells me about it, this is my assumption and what in the high political leadership the russian federation has contacts that today are very actively cooperating with the united states of

america and the west in order to prevent any possibility of using nuclear weapons, even if putin gives such an order, but this is only an assumption. let's monitor the situation and ukraine will continue to fight for our freedom. we can now only hypothetically model all of this p igor and you see a clear and consolidated position of the west here eh and that no one well, as they say, don't turn on the rear in front of putin because schultz, for example, says that we are helping what can we do, but we don't want an escalation of the conflict between russia and nato. yes, i am in that movie, guys, i won't give you a machine gun. well, so far, in fact, i don't see what, for example, the same germany - it is the weakest link is, in principle, what can be squeezed out as much as possible, they squeeze out

based on the public mood inside germany. on hungary as a member of nato, but still, because we remember that nato we still have a number of issues that are also accepted by consensus, so today there are such nuances that well, in general, the west will not be able to react as it will be necessary to e- e activation of action on the part of putin, it is the president for the first time. i think very fast reforms within both nato and the european union from the point of view of the issue of decision-making is not, and of course, e hmm, it starts, well, it will give an impetus for the event itself to begin to act more effectively usually or not for us, this is a kind of plus for us today. well, of course, for us, every second today is worth its weight in

gold, so i really hope for that rammstein format, where practical decisions are still made, where today everything is after all, more than 50 countries are already taking part, not outside the blocs, but also nato and the eu, and this is, in general, a new coalition, in fact . and i would like to see a more adequate reaction to the mobilization that is currently underway in russia, and protests have already begun there , in this format. set fire to the military commissars there in makhachkala vs mobilisations, people come out for skirmish actions. well, in other cities, there is already a little bit of information about how much it can change the situation now, the course of the war, and british intelligence reports that obviously these mobilized people will be sent to the battlefield with little or no training at all dmitri, well, in yakutia, women used to lead round dances, you already know. today,

when i was analyzing this mobilization in russia and the reaction of the makhachkalas in this and other places, i also read certain russian publications, especially opinions women, and i have the feeling that the process of the collapse of russia began precisely with this, that is, the trigger of the collapse of russia, he concluded precisely in this unfair - unjust mobilization. today i even read that there is one village, but i don't remember the region where all the men were mobilized from 18 up to 60 years of age, all men, while in moscow mobilizing 3.5 thousand, or rather 16,000, and in st. petersburg 3,500 , that is, there is such an injustice on equality on the day of the start of mobilization, september 21, we all saw and heard how a russian journalist called his son piskov and offered him to pass the military commissariat, and the son

of the military said that this is not really for him, he will solve it at another level, that is, some huge social injustice began, which they have now seen. all russians understood, and i think that it started to hurt them. let's remember that this is the third mobilization in the history of russia after the first and second world wars . and that is, in russia, in order to start a mobilization, there needs to be some very serious reason, and the reason that putin explains is that the entire west has now gathered against against of the russian federation. i think that it does not quite reach the majority of russians. i think that russians can ideologically watch various propaganda channels or resources there and say that they believe in it. in belgorod, in the kursk

region, in the crimea, they very quickly spread information about what an explosion really is, and what a possible war is, not just there, from the second world war, and historical, cinematic and propaganda on television, but in reality, what is this maybe that is, they began to think. and what if it really starts to explode in them and they start to get scared . and the main thing is, listen, if there are up to a million men, they understand that it will be by 300,000, it will be up to a million, and in all the public, the russians disagreed about what the seventh point of this is classified in putin's decree, it is precisely about the mobilization of a million, a million, 250,000, and this scares everyone very much, and the fact that people are breaking russian law today because the gathering of more than two people is a criminal offense and they are not afraid and come out and protest, they say that a very serious process has begun inside the russian federation, and in my opinion, i will repeat

myself from where i started to answer your question, and in my opinion, this is just the beginning of the processes, the possible beginning of the processes of the possible collapse of russia to ethnic regions because we see especially activity in dagestan, who look at chechnya and think why won't chechnya be called up, and yakutia and other regional places, in my opinion, it will start now, especially because we we hear from the central authorities to the governors that they are responsible, the governors. i think that now they will try to shift responsibility from themselves. well, the president of finland wanted to continue the information of the information support of our dialogue, in fact in an interview with cnn well, in my opinion, he is trying to justify putin and his plans and use use nuclear weapons conduct mobilization he gave an interview to our american colleagues and said that he doubts

that putin will accept any defeat in ukraine and quote next the president of finland sau linearity is his name he invested everything he is a fighter therefore it is very difficult to imagine how he accepts any defeat and this definitely makes the situation very critical he is disappointed with the situation in ukraine after the events of 14th year this disappointment was growing he decided to solve it now in one way or another, the president of ukraine said that well, he is trying, it seems that finland's accession to nato is not over yet, and the president commented on the strengthening of russia's military presence on the border with finland. we are not saw no signs of increased russian activity near finland, now putin seems to have a headache in ukraine too, well, the finns are just lucky, it’s not the 39th year, in fact, it’s calmer near our borders now than it has been for a long time, he said with relief, ninisti ’s disposition, that’s what i’m saying we saw igor regarding the mobilization in russia. i am announcing today in

nalchik. if we see in nalchik at 15:00 local time in the center of kabaldino-bulgaria a large protest against the war in ukraine, yesterday such an action in makhachkala escalated into fights with the police, several policemen seemed to have their jaws broken, 150 people detained me, so i understand that the action will continue, because i read the calls to collect tires and firewood, it has escalated or something more, some kind of nationwide riot p igor, please, i think this issue should be considered more comprehensively not only from the point of view of conducting a war in ukraine , or in fact, the longer putin was in power , the more he lost control over the subjects of the federation, and we see what, for example, the further elections are held there, just as there are governors, a lot of people were even nominated

not from the party of united russia, but as nominees, and of course the situation is really getting worse for them, and the kremlin understands this, and that is why this moment today i see two different clear paths, or indeed today such protest actions will lead to greater activation of society to the growth of such a social disturbance to which the kremlin will have to respond and give in anyway or it will simply be used now for further twisting gaia, if putin and the entire political elite in moscow really like to do it, because it is not for nothing that the mobilization is taking place today, we really see how the russian federation is, we also saw what the situation was in the occupied crimea, where

crimean tatars were actively taken away from small places of residence there and so on, that is, of course, now putin is doing everything to, in fact, due to the war in ukraine, reduce the factor of these national disturbances within the russian federation itself, therefore, of course , from our point of view, we have the maximum information to support these protest actions now. but again, we must realize that today putin will do everything to direct this anger against those people who took to the streets. therefore, the most important thing for the rallyists right now is not to waste time, but on the contrary, to take to the streets even more. another interesting one moment after all, putin made a mistake when he announced this mobilization, or pay attention to the two benchmarks of the federation, one is so-called in crimea, the other is still chechnya, and one and the other - they said that we had already recruited everything, we were carrying out all the plans for mobilization are now, according to

those subjects of the federation, which are constantly on the agenda of the federal channels, they have already refused to conduct it de facto, and today this is a signal for many citizens who live in the ref in different parts, of course, they will now come out, they feel this injustice and they will pour it out both on the streets by blocking the routes and the fact that now the burning of military commissariats is happening by opening e-e fire e-e against the military commissars and so on, all that now the only nuance is that the majority of russians continue to live within the framework set by putin, if we saw a couple of days ago when the rallies are held. when one out of a thousand is grabbed , why do 999 of those who know, we start beating him off the policeman? well, of course, now i wanted to i will explain the further development of this situation to you, because the dream of every slave is for a free person to become a

slave, and not for the slave himself to become a free person. unfortunately, what is happening in the crimea is that you have become involved in the issue of up to 80% of the mobilized make up the crimean tatars and the mejlis of the crimean tatar people called on all the inhabitants of the peninsula to start an indefinite protest against the illegal and criminal mobilization of dmytro , what do you feel might be brewing in the crimea, please , what will the situation be there, i think what is really called even the ethnic national indignation of the crimean tatars and you just quoted the position of the forest . yesterday, in his address, the president of ukraine very clearly said that he was calling on the crimean tatars and suggested that he very actively to the public to spread the proposal to do something about it, that is why i think that crimea will also be a place where people will begin to seriously resent these mobilizations and in general all these all these companies,

especially because crimeans have already seen what real explosions are, what real war is, they have already felt it with their own skin, that's why there will be several key regions that will start these processes of sedition against the kremlin, the policy of the kremlin and this regime, which is called the chekist regime in the russian public, so i think that crimea will be one from such regions, which will start from the center of the processes , again, i will repeat myself. i have an assumption that it is this model of mobilization, it is mobilization that will begin or may begin the process of the possible disintegration of russia . thank you very much, gentlemen, for this meaningful discussion igor chelenko dmytro vasiliev political experts of analytics about the organization after we will talk about news in russia oleksandr zinin, 97 years old, born in the irkutsk region of zastre