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by blocking the black sea and thank god that it more or less works. this earthly so-called agreement, but it doesn't look like it used to be when , in fact, in the 19th year, russia had a very serious influence, and it was partly due to this the agitational network that they created actually didn't go anywhere, it didn't go anywhere even during stalin's time, remember the international, there was the help of every progressive regime in africa, latin america and asia, the same thing continued and even developed under the leadership of putin... finally reached the point that i already think that half of all agents are already thinking today should they continue to work for such a russian federation as it has become? well, i hope so. no, i am sure that we will be one of the first. so this last one the nail you are talking about will drive into that coffin, mr. volodymyr, see also
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about the radbez ukraine convenes an emergency meeting of the radbez due to the holding of fake referendums in the temporarily occupied territories we all know very well the result of this meeting even with because well, we know that china and russia are vetoed, that is, there will be no practical solution, but still , why is it useful for us to convene such a meeting of the council of security in order to, you know, keep this issue in focus, as i have already said, there are many countries in the distant world from us who, you know, don't particularly care about all the internal issues that are related to this aggression, that is, for them, this is a referendum. well, yes, somewhere far away, something is happening . i think that uh, well, since not all of them are yet
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the high-level heads have left and from new york , maybe someone will come from well at the level of more than permanent representatives, plus there are thousands of media outlets present, all this will be broadcast, shown, er, retold , and everyone will watch live, that is it will draw attention to this issue and it will make even less legitimate those cynical consequences that, of course, russia has already drawn. we have even already heard that somewhere around 80% of the donetsk luhansk region is behind it. it was a week ago, it was already then redakovane and the archaeolonian region they have drawn 72% there, well, like so that they more or less updated, they gave a realistic, but instead of lavrovus, we will speak at his assembly, i can’t even say once in such regions. he very much instead of
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kherson region says kharkiv region. of luhansk well, that's another question , by the way, this shows the level of his decline as the number one diplomat in the russian federation, he can't even speak properly, mr. volodymyr, but look at when you spoke from this high platform, you had in front of you the written text in the written text, at least lavrov should not have been asked what to write. what is luhansk oblast there, not laotian oblast, well 100%. this text was most likely in russian because he spoke in russian. do you think it could be that someone could have planted it and really written laotian? well, i can't put it all together right now. well, you know, it's hard for me to say if i'm joking a little then i would advise masha zakharov to tell him whether there are security guards already there there is someone in lavrov's office and here are the sbusniks there or some people from bandera drawing him some things in his speeches that he did not mean well, seriously, i
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think that this shows, er, simply that the person is in a very difficult psychological state er or he just doesn't believe in what he himself is saying, but he needs to get somewhere to talk, or it's just that the psyche doesn't work normally and he does. such things are done in such a country with such a leader, uh, the psyche can't work normally. i'm sure it can't. i really hope that in lavrov, it still does not work normally, mr. volodymyr, you already have a question about the former ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america. how can russia sleep normally , now we can already see it well, we do not sleep precisely because we have such a neighbor russia, but then in this interview you said but in any case the support of the united states of america will not
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change now we are really like me already said no sleep peacefully, now we really see this support of the united states of america, for which we thank you in washington, but please tell me if there is a limit to this american support for ukraine. you know this country, you can answer this. i am deeply convinced that the limit of this support ends at that moment when ukraine finally wins all wars and the united states does not stop until then, they will continue this support so that there is no mention of midterm elections that will be held in november this year, they will not change anything that ukraine traditionally has a very strong bipartisan bicameral support in the us congress and therefore we should not be afraid of any changes in the policy of the usa, these are our real friends, they are friends, not partners, friends, they perfectly understand the
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ukraine of ukrainians are we close to them in spirit or are they close to us in spirit, we are very similar in this, you know, in the desire for freedom until independence and what the armed forces of ukraine are doing, including the last counteroffensive in the kharkiv region, this only strengthens our positions because the americans also they love the strong, they don't like the weak. we prove to everyone, by our behavior and actions, that we are the very people, the very country that is worth supporting . i am sure that if you go out into the street today in the smallest american town, somewhere in the middle of the eh in the cowboy east you will hear the same thing you will hear sympathy for ukraine for ukrainians eh we we don't start from the first sleepers eh in berdyanskyi mass media even despite the fact that in america foreign policy is traditionally located there
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somewhere on the fifth, sixth or seventh place among americans, the main thing for them is work, prices there , inflation and so on, but if not 100%, then 90% definitely know that they believe in us and know that we are fighting for those things that completely divide americans. well, we thank our friends and partners from the united states of america for the help and support that we constantly receive from them. it helps us to fight for our freedom. it helps to drive the aggressor from our territory. well , thank you for that. mr. volodymyr who took part in the world at war program thank you, thank you for the answers to the professional answers to my questions , i will remind our viewers that this was volodymyr yelchenko, a ukrainian diplomat, the former permanent representative of ukraine to the united nations in 2015-2019 and the extraordinary and
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plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in the usa in 2020-2021, from what mr. volodymyr said, i want you to remember one thing, everything that is said at the un general assembly is very important for ukraine, no matter how you feel about it, because this picture which we see from tvs and the picture still does not convey everything that is happening behind the scenes during the meeting that was held by the ukrainian side, that was held by our partners, because it is the genasom of the un for ukraine. this is a very, very useful thing, a useful platform. well, what well, i'm moving on to my next guest. this is petro burkovskyi. i'm the executive director of the ilko kucheriv foundation for democratic initiatives. i congratulate you, mr. petro. i congratulate you. thank you for joining
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my program. well, let's start right away. with it will be obvious to you that it is more about russia and let's start with the protests in dagestan a-a is it all serious what is happening there because you are watching yesterday on the air i said that i personally do not believe that these protests can become some kind of spark that will ignite a huge flame some kind of even a revolution in russia because these protests are coming out under the auspices of the fight against mobilization dagestanis are taking to the streets because they don't want their husbands er sons brothers to be mobilized sent to war in ukraine so today there was even information about what seems to be a man in the irkutsk region who does not agree with the language and the principles of mobilization, even killed a military commissar, i don't remember in some place, but it seems to me personally that things will change
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, the conditions of mobilization will change, the same dagestanis will return to their villages, they will start recruiting contract workers again, and here's something, it seems to me that everything will end there, and here you are as a professional, as a specialist, as an expert. what do you think? i'm watching what's happening in russia now. we observed this in previous years as well. the north caucasus is one of the regions of the poor , unstable, er, such a patchwork region with many nationalities. there are a lot of issues of mutual relations, there are a lot of negative feelings towards russia, and russia colonized the caucasus er for centuries, as well as ukraine in the caucasus, no one forgot anything, did not forget, does not forget, all this is passed down from generation to generation, and therefore it is not surprising that there these protests are so much more
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visible, it has always been like this. it was their previous years in different regions. however, i agree with you that the russian revolution will not start in the caucasus , and it is still too early to talk about revolutions in general, but let's pay attention to other pictures to other events, that is, protests. that's what attracts attention, but there are other events - these are real caravans traffic jams on the borders between russia and other countries that have not yet closed their borders are kazakhstan, georgia, mongolia on the borders with mongolia, many people from the far east are trying to escape from mobilization , these pictures are more demoralizing for of the russian leadership, and this very process is
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underway in the country. it is possible that at the moment, in this situation, it is more threatening for the russian regime. in the coming days , the borders will be closed. well, i do not believe that they can close the borders. russia is very big, this is the second time the border guards they like to take bribes, that's two years ago here . i think we will get the opposite effects, only there will be an announcement that the borders will be closed, the flows will only increase, and well, it will be the first blow to the kremlin, according to the probability, the first blow will actually be serious not even protests, but these are protests with their feet, when people flee the country, that is, the situation will escalate, the situation will escalate, because the
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more people remain in ukraine, the more people will not be allowed to leave russia, then they will really have no choice, it will be necessary to either pay attention and turning into a weapon in the other direction, you can say that the mobilization in russia can become the beginning of burial or maybe we are already the beginning of the burial of russia, well, this is such a good term, a good meme, so about the fact that everyone who will go to mobilization, they most likely will not return or will return with a completely different experience, with completely different thoughts and dishes. and you know, here we do not need to worry about russia, that they will have mobilization there, is it us or mobilization in any case . for us, this is an increase in risks, eh i don’t even know
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. more than for russia, because russia also has human resources. well, the russian government in general demonstrates that it does not want to continue this war at the expense of simple simple disposal. this be very careful, uh, our intelligence too. i think they are monitoring how many people have already been recruited because they are being sent. i think they are also very carefully monitoring the fact that here are these pictures with mobilized citizens, it can only be a cover, because in russia somewhere well, somewhere around 100 000, and there are already two new conscripts. some of them have been training for four months and i think that the most serious work is now the electric ones. they were
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called up in the spring. barracks that are currently taking place. i think we have to keep a close eye on it. well, there is nothing in certain regions in these khazars that mutinies can really break out. and these mutinies are not the same protests that we now see filmed on video that are posted on the network, but the process that takes place in the barracks among this year's young conscripts among the conscripts, last year's conscripts who have just returned home, they are already being driven back practically to the battlefield, there are different options here, here are different options, let's take our time, let's see if there will be real military mutinies, riots are made by young soldiers, this is a real, real threat to the regime, it is a very low probability, but it already exists, oh mr. peter, god forbid that it is what you
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say that it happened. as soon as possible, it obviously happened over there in russia and that they messed up this car from the middle somehow from the middle even more than it was a-ah hm messed up please tell me, mr. petro uh, it looks like putin to me now if i look at this mobilization with the fact that he doesn't succeed in everything he planned to do in ukraine and what actually turns out, he looks like a cornered animal to me. maybe even a rat in such a situation, is he capable of biting off something and running away, or will he still snap and bite to the end and bitten to the end and maybe even to some such complex names of difficult consequences, well , look, uh, i think that this metaphor is about the general code of the beast
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. a political leader who is valued there the government that wants to stay in power, but he doesn't get anything, the defeat in ukraine is not final, but there are no successes, the strategic goals have not been achieved, and then it seems to us from a rational point of view that if a person suffers a defeat there because of whose defeat there plans are not implemented that she herself will feel the headline in putin. as far as i understand him, he has a completely different perception, that is, if you look from the point of view of what he is leading. that is, there is such a picture in his head that he is leading a struggle not he is fighting with ukraine from the west, so let's look at the statistics realistically. this is how the west of the united states developed. for example , take an impression if you look at statistics from the world bank to see how the economy of the united states grew
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from 2000, how the economy of russia grew from 2000, from 2000. so if a person i rationally thought that within these frameworks she is fighting against the west. she has to win, overcome, win in this fight, but when they look at the statistics of the economy, then a rational person will begin to think that for sure all these 22 years i pursued the wrong goal, and then a person can also really feel driven . now, despite the fact that russia has lost its last allies in europe, nato borders nato has really increased its presence on the borders of finland and sweden are already joining nato the baltic sea has turned into internal ah semiconductors stop being supplied to russia russia is forced to look for something somewhere there to buy some iranian drones china is most likely not
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going to help russia is losing allies uh among former colonies among members of the submitted belarus remains an ally and is in no hurry to enter the war already in its own countries with the armed forces, that is, nothing will work out, but putin has his own opinion, i think he does not feel cornered and such confidence that he can still change everything at the last moment, just this he is betting on the fact that he will be able to intimidate the west with the help of nuclear weapons. that is why i think that it is very important for us to understand what is the difference between the current situation with this nuclear threat and the nuclear threats and those threats that were at the end of last year, at the end of last year, as we already know from the publication of the washington post, the americans and other western allies gave us
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at most three to three days to the moon after that believed that ukraine would fall and russia would occupy ukraine and there would be a new reality for which we must prepare ourselves they did not share these calculations with us, these scenarios, what they will do if putin attacks and if he reaches kyiv to occupy certain territories of ukraine, now we are already seeing leaks in the western press information and they say that ukraine has been informed about all scenarios in case of a nuclear attack and russia has been informed about the measures that will be taken. secondly, it was not for nothing that yesterday our president said that ukraine has already received nasambs, that is, air defense equipment that is more short-range, more modernized and can shoot down missiles independent , i am not there, for example, not nuclear and so on, but they will be able to shoot down the means of delivery, that is, the west is already demonstrating that it will not submit to this nuclear
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blackmail and that the sanctions will be absolutely devastating for the russian federation and the third one i am completing uh , just yesterday, too, russian economist and foreigner vladislav inozemtsev said that most likely such sanctions are coming, under which russia will be able to live no more than a year after that. he said that these will be very difficult times, in fact we will talk about economic collapse russia about the loss of everything, that is, in russia, with the nuclear sanctions that the west can apply, the money and safety margin will only be enough for a year, because i emphasize that the united states really has such sanctions left in reserve that are capable of to destroy any economy in the world, well, such an economy really will not last more than 80 months there under pressure, well, now we are talking virtually, there are sanctions that are capable of destroying and you
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can now, well, at least there, hmmm, to point out that it can also cause cancer, that is yes trade trade you are absolutely forbidden to use the dollar euro fant sterling yen the main currencies of which trade is conducted this one and the second is er-er in- all financial all financial transactions are in debt, that is, china will not be able to if china will want to trade with russia after these sanctions, russia will go to countries with which china can trade. well, russia is 3% of global gdp there, our allies are more than 23% of global gdp, let china choose who it wants to trade with after these nuclear of sanctions, this is complete economic isolation , complete, this will be a worse situation than in north korea. north korea has been living under sanctions for 30 years. russia has not lived under such sanctions for a year and
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it will not last under them. can provide for itself there by only 20%, the rest - 70 and one day in russia, and in russia there will be no opportunity to do all this, this applies specifically to food, yes, in some issues, russia can provide itself with food, but in some families, that is , it is a total economic blockade er, the russian economy simply cannot withstand this, they are not adapted to these er, to such a total economic blockade, which is implemented only by the united states of america or the west in general, if the united states applies here this absolute ban on the use of bank
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accounts in correspondent banks, the use of the dollar, er, no country will dare to stand on the field with russia and turn into an xbox, so i say once again, for example, hungary. from the approval of the eighth package of sanctions. if it is now hungary, if budapest is now starting to exert pressure, it falls into the same list of countries, but which will be subject to very strict sanctions, practically like the people themselves, all elections. she has to choose with whom she wants, whether she trades only with russia or whether she continues to trade with the rest of the world. in other words, everyone will be suffocated by a quick choice , and it is better for everyone. oto oto er weeks ot after this statement er the beginning of the number screen he is with all the capitals very intensive negotiations are going on
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the americans are scanning the situation and preparing for the introduction of these sanctions of course i.e. here we once again return to what er rosenbein said when it was ignited, what will happen if russia tries to use nuclear weapons, there were three short, strict, don't even dare to think, i.e. then , at the beginning of the aggression on february 24 of this year, he united the west against himself. and now, with these threats, this nuclear blackmail, he unites even more the west, i understood correctly, so not only the west, right away it is necessary to understand that the issue is not only in the economy of the use of nuclear weapons during the patriots of a conventional armed conflict during a commercial war means that uh, all the states that have nuclear weapons, they are also beginning to consider the possibility and use of nuclear weapons in conventional conflicts. yes, we have pakistan and mother india.
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the question is if russia will be the first to use nuclear weapons, but yes, yes, tactical, yes, there is absolutely no need for it. neither war nor a list of wars, the question arises what will pakistan do then or india, if they have skirmishes on the border again in cashmere, let the question be what will india or china do if they have skirmishes on the border, etc. everyone understands that the first step is he talks about if it is not punished. if it is not punished, if ukraine, the violator, is not isolated, it will happen again and will happen again in the near future. there is also a question about china, taiwan and the joint headquarters . yes, that is, if china begins to take some incomprehensible position, does it try to criticize these sanctions or does it not take an active enough part in it? to warn russia that this cannot be done, in the united states there is a suspicion that china is also
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preparing to use nuclear weapons in an attack on taiwan and, accordingly, the united states will do preparations are necessary so that china understands that if it uses attempts to assemble this nuclear weapon against it, it will be used immediately. maybe even preventively nuclear weapons to protect taiwan, then a very whole complex of issues russia can undermine undermines not just er, it has already undermined er trampled international law, it is already destroying the international economy, now it can simply destroy the foundations of civilization and it is destroying itself and it is destroying itself mr. petro thank you very much for this positive thing that you said at the end in general for positive for a positive inclusion for the fact that the world is with us, it should help us well, any threats and any actions from russia will not go unanswered, thank you mr. peter it was peter burkovsky, executive director of the
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democratic initiative foundation named after ilko kucheriv well , well due to lack of time, i am forced to finish today's program, the world at war, until monday, but at the end, i want to remind you once again that those who watch our program on youtube, please like it. who did not like it? put a thumbs down although i wouldn't like it, of course, write something, we are interested in your opinion. well, that 's all i'll say goodbye to. my name is yuri fizer . see you soon. our method is to act. the new order is our task. to disrupt the enemy's plans is our slogan. the wise rule me in the mirrors. our field the battle is handed over to the deep rear of the enemy, our goal is victory glory to the military intelligence of ukraine forced eviction deportation in 1945-1951 hundreds of thousands of
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ukrainians lost their own homes their own property their own land we are not immigrants we are exiles i remember an autumn september morning in 1945, a large group of polish soldiers entered our village on the hill of horchany, and the command continued for minutes. if you weren't here in the village, there was a cry, a cry , and a cry. those who had horses put up whatever shed they could, and those who didn't he took the horses on the shoulders of the children, the cow on a string and rushed to the station on foot , leaving everything in the hut in the barn and in the field , there was no way back, we did not have a mutual exchange of population, that was the official name of the deportation according to the agreement signed on september 9 in lublin between the communist by the regimes of the ussr and poland, almost 700,000 ukrainians were forcibly extrajudicially moved to the ukrainian ssr, resettled with the help of terror, repressions, resettled, deprived
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of property, corrected all human rights, we were taken out by force, copper, mother collected the most necessary, came, took them out of the house where they had been left to live for years and escorted them to the railway station 945 - 1951, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians lost their motherland and did not lose their memory. this is my country, this is my country, it is different in winter, harsh, magical, and you do not smell of flowers and plants, but really bright and colorful my country autumn dawn my country

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