but in my opinion, it should be done by concluding an international treaty between ukraine on the one hand and the united states united by the kingdom and france, the three nuclear civilized states of the world, which will guarantee directly in this international treaty that in the event of a nuclear attack by the russian federation on ukraine, this three nuclear states will respond on the territory of the russian federation . can someone tell me that? well, you are quite naive and why do you think it should be beneficial for the combined by the state of great britain and france, i explain that it should be beneficial to them, first of all, to themselves why because the radioactive cloud and which will go to europe, believe me , it will cause uh to the appearance of nuclear

weapons, it is nuclear deterrence, that is, the threat that there will be a retaliatory strike of nuclear weapons has led to the fact that nuclear weapons did not lead to the fact that nuclear weapons were not used by nuclear states against each other because, in my opinion, this is a really real mechanism that could be used mr. ruslana, you can be very brief if you have something to add and uh so, friends, i am reassuring a little uh, it is unprofitable to leave putin putler inactive, our allies are allowed that then there are countries like china and taiwan, there is iran, there are other countries that have such uh weapons, if it is possible putvir so it is possible others will notice that there is north korea, accordingly, as soon as someone allows themselves

to open pandora's box, in particular, the butler, it will lead to chaos in the world, and i am convinced that our partners will not allow the mechanism of using nuclear weapons even tactical thank you, gentlemen, for the conversation andriy magerov, the former deputy chairman of the central committee and ruslan koshulinskyi, the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine from 2012 to 2014, were with us and talked a little about whether putin, after despair , will succeed with mobilization or will resort to his next desperate uh, step or step tea, uh, the historical school button, they remembered this referendum, a pseudo-referendum held by hitler, you know what was interesting in austria, the stamp came with 99 percent of the supposedly population to vote, well carried out the mobilization, additionally announced a general

mobilization in 1943, before that, he also did not announce a general mobilization, well, somehow google, not google then, but they were looking for ways to go to other countries in 1943. of course, everything was already very bad. well, very many germans actually left there somewhere in 2008, and before that they left for other countries, there were many, for example, jews, germans, jews, no, by nationality, who left germany, as the persecution of jews unfolded there, you see, in russians and more, the most popular queries on google this is where to leave, where can you leave with an internal passport, and where do you need a foreign passport and will everyone be released on medusa? words well, in russia there is a taiga, in principle

everyone can go into the taiga well, yes well, to anoint yourself with that mosquito repellent, or is it probably not produced in russia, it was imported and if we anointed ourselves, we would go in for a few years, then leave we started where are the russians going or are they going they in the taiga, are they not accepted and who is ready to accept them, are they waiting for them with a loaf of bread, salt, and embroidered towels ? maybe sevi hour seven hour passion because the country has a small choice of substations with an internal passport you can go to armenia kyrgyzstan belarus and kazakhstan мне нравится это дорошесть там это и the caspian sea, i think yes, we have been friends since the 18th year

. and this is the border with kazakhstan. there is a long queue of cars and pedestrians in line. everyone is going to kazakhstan. i don’t have a single girl. well, there is a back car or a russian. there are probably 1,000 people there already until troitska . probably during andriy's time, three cars are launched, they are popular among russian fugitives, even mongolia is used by the ex-president of the country, khia-hilberg-dorsh, even recorded a video message in which he accused moscow of the destruction of ethnic minorities, in particular, the residents of buryatia, so you are so stupid whom the kremlin is using as cannon fodder and has called on russian men to flee to his country i have a simple message for president putin

stop the war it's time to restore peace my heart is torn apart when i see russia drowning in a sea of ​​fear and tears after you started this war, your mobilization brought an ocean of suffering due to a sharp jump in demand, air ticket prices soared at the same time eu countries are in no hurry to accept russians, poland and the baltic countries have already closed their borders, such a step finland and the czech republic are also considering that they do not plan to automatically grant refugee status to russian men fleeing mobilization. instead , germany and the netherlands are considering such a possibility, according to the media, by the end of september, the russians may completely prohibit leaving the country without permission from the military commissariat, but i read in the news that the russians are charging the military and armored personnel carriers to the border with georgia in order to catch reservists there who are fleeing the country and will break through the checkpoint

from georgia actually what is happening there, how many have already fled to georgia and are they welcomed with all the georgian hospitality eh georgians we will ask geleva garden for this political scientist eh good day good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes eh tell me how many already or is there any calculation how many russians have already covered their heels and ended up in georgia count later what i think is that in a day they were talking about different numbers, it is called 10 to 12,000. well, count. from the moment of the announcement of mobilization , practically every day . republics i don't know what this is connected with but it has been happening for a long time and naturally they don't miss those

who have a ride marks that they had been to abkhazia or they were asked there yes they are starting yes yes he was definitely in abkhazia show even photos there was one character who they let behind the letter z promised to return to the tank well, welcome let's see, but in principle they have already all returned, because not so long ago they were just riding tanks and crossing the georgian border , they just came and stayed here on tanks to disguise themselves, but apparently we are also in a dry place, but apparently he does not know about this или знает плохо, and how do georgians generally feel about this story or do they welcome these russians? this is a new resource. well, how do they feel about them in general, and georgians in general

? they openly regret it russia, they are talking about how they got into the top position, what about the terrible situation, and the people in general. it’s a pity, of course, the people, it’s a pity for all the people. it ’s understandable that there are people who will become alarmed . confidence in the effectiveness of our security services of our priests, who during the 10 years of the reign of the georgian dream did not arrest a single russian champion, which, by the way, is strange, and it represents a threat to national security. people who want to make money on it, if people who go through it make money. in general, there are

different opinions, there are different people. i saw a strange presentation on ukrainian tv channels about the fact that there are 700,000 russians and so on. well, no, of course, today the total number of citizens of russia is 100- 150,000 georgia, but again, i will say that this is very much for a country with a population of 800,000 . separately somewhere from the 17th year of the 16th of the 17th year well, that's just how georgia received a failure in the european perspective. that's when people who simply did not go to live in russia were really worried, most of them were opponents of the second wave regime - it was basically, these were economic migrants who understood that in russia now, there are no ordinary people, you have prospects to live, and

uh, it’s still called fevers. well, in september, it’s basically the main mass. i’m not saying that there are no people who are against the war or there are no people those who seek do not understand that russia is an aggressor, an occupier, but mostly these are people who do not want to go to ukraine . uh, they behave because of those intercepted messages of some kind in telegram channels. are there somewhere in social networks, ah, we see that, well, they are really surprised, uh, why do we say that the letter z is not acceptable there, or how we see armenia, for example , they are indignant that so the streets are the names of the streets written in armenian, at least it would be better if i wrote it in english. well, in russian, it should definitely be

written as, as, as, now we have to understand what’s going on there. i’m actually interested in these men who, not because they don’t want to fight against ukraine, because they don’t they want to take their lives as what is their behavior in georgia, now they are different, too, different , basically, you understand what georgia is about, of course, this is europe . therefore здесь очень быстроают ех что что чем we in this life understand that it is unpleasant for many people, for example , the vowels speak to me in russian with them most often they do not speak russian because they simply do not know the russian language, the youth eh 30 minutes do not know the russian language yes и не может значать why do you need a russian language ball? as for the inscriptions, well , they are found in ftaristic places, but the vest

is mostly written in english. who knows english? in general, in georgia they understand very well that they are not at home. they are in another country abroad, and this is felt now in armenia, there can be something of a greater degree, i wanted it from the other side. armenia is basically a national country , so they have their own discomforts there, and in georgia, well, in georgia, i fell. yes, it is possible to run into a negative attitude towards russia . collective responsibility can absolutely not blame a person for a negative attitude towards them from the other side. i know a lot of cases. abkhazia is georgia, and with this conference, any compact situation is exhausted. the second thing is that if they ask those who try to leave with their own property in our monastery, i would not advise it,

and i would not advise it because, after all, the people of yuzhnaya are hot, they can have access, but it is very good they said that for the majority of young georgians , the russian language has already ceased to be the language of international communication and has definitely ceased to be the language, well, here is what to tell. that is, the language that latin was for medieval europe, well, that is, the language through which people joined other higher cultures, relatively speaking, well , in ukraine, unfortunately, russian still remains partly such a language due to the low level of knowledge of the english language in ukraine as a whole, and therefore russian remains important the moment can be so, well, or because of a smooth education and so one way or another, i don’t wait. it bothers me, for example, i didn’t worry about the language. that as well as georgian and in principle

i know english at a normal level. when i speak yazeka, i always remember that the soldiers of the irish republican army speak plainly and always spoke the meaning of english yazeka about this russian-itarian, basque resistance is sad. i also communicate in spanish, the second thing is that the kremlin decided for some reason that if someone speaks russian, it means that he belongs to the russian world. well, what are we, and especially ukraine proved the absolute opposite language is a language it is only a personal instrument of communication, especially since we have a heavy and not a heavy historical heritage until now, especially for people of my generation, the russian language continues to be a borderline language for communication, which is incidental

. and it creates no difficulty for us , and in russian we speak the truth just as well as in any other language. языках well, we have a slightly different situation, because well, it seems to me like a nation with a very, very clear national identity and quite monolithic in this sense, and this is another reason, because language is the most important instrument for mobilizing the nation, and that's why we didn't have such problems initially because in 1977, we were asked by the consulate to make a stage about the fact that the georgian language is state-owned. so this led to such a protest that even the communists were frightened and said, "yes, i will let these georgian women in with them." let's wait, when the ukrainians will be at this level, then we will allow the russian language here, and pysan speaks russian, speaks georgian and knows english quite well. so when the ukrainians can answer like that, then, in principle, i

think the conditional question will go to another plan . so far it happens that i don't know english at all , i won't speak ukrainian at all or i can only say two words, but russian is holding on to her and i won't let go. here we have a different situation, mr. dialo, please tell me now, uh, these men are going to in russia, they suspect that it also happens that they leave as families and probably want to get some kind of permanent residence permit. is it what it is called there? that is, some go there just for some period. i don't know how long russians are allowed to stay in georgia for a few days. how many days in a row? 30 are there 60 people who want to get a permanent residence? does the government understand that a larger number of people from russia with different views can also affect the situation in georgia by

shaking up the situation? the only country in which you are not the only russian to russians , i and practically all other foreigners are allowed to stay as builders for 360 days. after this, you can go to a place in nubilis, for example, a chase, and there you go to armenia or azerbaijan, and then leave for another 360 days. the visa regime is very liberal and of course it creates big problems. let's say it's very comfortable for migrants. it's also useful, er, that is, they are here, or getting a ministerial visa for someone in a european country was sometimes useful. человек

уставка путинаровна также how did she do it with the belarusians, that is, we must receive a commentary, definitely, how now the european union recommends to everyone in a row, eh, to distribute all the money, they are already. i think that they are completely together, even though it is does evropy as for us, there are often calls to introduce a visa regime, close the border, and so on. for example, the americans confused the us ambassador to georgia, she said that of course she welcomes russian citizens in georgia i advise kyzymku, a big friend of georgia advised georgia to close the border, in fact, i think that means the majority will leave the goal of the majority of europe, but part of the country will sit down and so on. the reality is that the most important thing is to treat the putin regime because i believe that semigation

should not be based on the racial, national, or any other principle. well, there should only be political secrecy if a person supports the putin regime, there is a person who believes that krym is their name, or what abkhazia is called my russian network let it go back. what is he doing here if you say? now we saw that when it was september 18, the president of georgia called it war crimes and condemned it. atrocities of the russian army, nevertheless, here in ukraine, it often seems to us that this support from the official tbilisi is somehow insufficient . is this a misleading impression, or is the georgian political establishment completely on the side of ukraine or not? if i can be so brief well, here you need to understand very well that ukraine is now within the political odessa

, so i think that it is certainly not enough, not deadly, yes, georgia has joined all international sanctions, but we are georgians, we are strategic to ukraine, we are practically allies although we have not formalized a comprehensive cooperation agreement, we practically have one problem, therefore , the cowardly position of our authorities, which in general is obvious, of course. here we talked about collective responsibility. of the georgian society against this, of course, we are also responsible for all of this because it is our power for our country, so i think that there is an unambiguous position so that it does not download yes, not only georgia, and in general, any shooting to not make this clear for the support of ukraine, this is clearly not enough, even though it is

not enough, especially since this is the same. moreover, we know that there is a lot of money now and the armed forces of our guys are fighting, but this is normal, it will be very grateful and we will support you not only morally, but also with a weapon in hand thank you madam for hello for the conversation gelevasad for a political scientist from georgia was in touch with us and told us about what is the current situation in georgia due to the fact that russians are fleeing en masse to this country, now we will move from georgia to iran , everyone is already talking about the fact that iranian women have shown that they are much stronger and stronger than russian men

. what a dictatorial country would seem to be like this, so these khomeinis are in power, everything is very good. yes, what seems dictatorial in our country is dictatorship. if it seems like that, it is. and how many are in power? well, the first one came to me, and then he died and was replaced by oleg. well, in 1979, they ruled this country like a gypsy of the sun, nevertheless, i think that you know that there is such a popular joke about how to correctly write cancer or iran, and you can so and so is one and the same, but it's like a joke, but on the other hand, it's about the fact that we very often i think

we understand what iran is and iran well, i think it's clear, you can tell about it it's not exactly the same as iraq , no, of course it's not the same well, at least let's start with the fact that arabs live in iraq, and persians also live in the early days, but of course not only persians, yes, the hornets live there, the azerbaijanis live there, the yellow cords live there , and the beujis live there, so there are quite a lot of different nationalities there, all of them are united in a country called iran and this country without a doubt has deep, deep, historical roots of a huge culture, cultural tradition, history, er, in their time, they challenged europe, er, and we know they were a great empire of the east. well, actually,

in the 20th year, they tried to carry out modernization, but they did not succeed, and as a result, they ended up er, by the cruel islamic dictatorship of the 20th century. that means that, in principle, culturally, culturally, this is a slightly different nation and it stands a little apart from the arab world. of these protests, as for iranian women, iranian society would also support them, and the men managed to go to the protests after the police, the police of morals, mocked the girl for having a strand of hair sticking out from under her hijab, and in russia we were waiting for the protests at least after that he will announce the mobilization, we, those, those protests, they are kind of weak and unhappy and weak, as they say . let's start with the fact that in russia there is

practically no. so, after 12 years, after the 14th year, there are hundreds of any opposition, political competition in iran after all, political competition is present, well, at least at the level of rhetoric and different views on arrangements from inside the country, yes , that is, there are reformers, they do not go beyond the boundaries of islamic doctrine, relatively speaking, but there are reformers, there are conservatives, and there is, and at least for a long time, there was electoral democracy, that is people have really elected recently, of course, this system is corroding, but it still existed, so to speak , and what we don't see in russia is, well, close. yes, it is present in the council. and besides that, of course.

yes, iranian society is young, and the average age there is mostly 25-28 years old, and it is clear what kind of society it is, it seeks change, and it already exists, this society no longer accepts these hasty rules, which may have been revolutionary and interesting there 50 years ago, but it is definitely now an anachronism, and even more so if we talk about the actual protest and anti- hijack protests, what can be said, the agenda of these protests has long outgrown the santehijapt process, although it is the same topic the hijab is very important because it is one of the most important documents that seems to be very important to an iranian conservative, and also if we

started to compare russia and iran, i would also like to draw attention to the convergence of the rhetoric of gudyaev this is part of the islamic clergy of iran, which actually does not see the purpose of a person in serving in the shahite service of his own regime and encouraging him to become a terror known to martyrs . it's just that they are very, very similar, and lately we have their ideologies, orthodox fundamentalism, and such, as they often say, the orthodox taliban. and actually, it is the official ideology of the islamic regime of

iran, and it is the religious doctrine. they are approaching each other very quickly. - after all, iran is a very religious country, which can hardly be said about russia. well, how do you say, well, conditionally religious, that is, you understand that when religion is imposed on you, rules are imposed on you, in principle, sooner or later you will be rejected of these rules, yes. that is, we see that, including veterans, they impose behavior on you, that is, some kind of outer shell that you must adhere to, but uh, in the conditions when all this has been violated at home for a long time, yes, no one goes there, so no one will follow these rules or almost no one adheres to it. so why make a blasphemy of yourself and it is better to go out on the streets and say and declare your dignity about completely not violating these rules

. by the way, your view is... i also noticed such jihadi notes in gundyaeva here say what to a certain extent, russia is moving towards this kind of orientalization, but just now, at this moment, it is more and more to take the lead this year. thank you, the organization is like this. thank you, mr. igor, for the explanation. is unexplored ihor samogolos, the director of the middle eastern studies center talked with him about the situation in iran, they compared a little, is it possible to compare iran with russia and their protests, as we see, as we see iran is ahead of russia, and now it is we pass the word to our service, our journalists , editors, and ani yumelnyk is already fresh