made moscow understand about their threats with nuclear weapons, it is so very important that moscow hears this from us and knows that the consequences will be terrible and we made it clear that since there is a real nuclear attack on ukraine, how can we prepare for it, let's talk with us live, the head of the board of the center for defense strategies, minister of defense of ukraine in 19-20, andriy zahorodnyuk, i congratulate you . well, us secretary of state anthony blinken, in this interview on cbs's 60 minutes program, said that the problem is that putin created such management system that no one can tell him or suggest that, for example, in the matter of nuclear threats, he went too far, uh, you see the problem here and how dangerous it is in your opinion, now we have this problem, this problem has always been this problem, typical for dictatorial

theater and authoritarian governments and they don't listen to anyone but themselves well, they don't have the determination to tell any negative negative information and that's why, in principle, in order to be decided, others did one thing and because to him, uh, what he doesn't want to hear himself and uh because of this, mr. zahorodnyuk, we have a few technical problems, but we hope that we will hear and see you. and please tell me, because of this information and the threats that have been heard for

the last week or so, should ukrainians be worried about this at all? it is possible to prepare in general for a possible nuclear attack, because now there are a lot of articles of recommendations, but still, what should people do now? well, i cannot say exactly what individual preparation should be. of course, before that, yes or should our state authorities think about it differently in relation to students, in our time we did it we remember that once there were many years ago it was civilian before intensive nuclear strikes but the main thing now is that, well, that is, it is very important but nothing is important, the main thing is to stop the way to beat and this is such a stop, it is possible

. the only thing is that for this he must demonstrate determination, absolutely decisive. they must tell him very clearly what the consequences will be, that is, not just talk about some catastrophic consequences and talking about specific games will actually cease to exist in the case of the use of weapons, and clearly explain how our partners have the possibility of the capabilities of the russian armed forces in this theater of military operations and without resorting to nuclear weapons ivanitsa to convey to putin information about whether those capabilities will be used and that is in fact there is an opportunity the woman is very clear the position of our partners is much more the more than it is at the moment thank you thank you very much for the comment unfortunately not very good we are in touch today at

radio svoboda was andriy zavorotnyuk, chairman of the board of the center for defense strategies, minister of defense of ukraine 2019-2020 year russian troops attacked the odesa region at night with kamikaze drones of the pomidov operational command south, these are shahid 136 drones, previously supplied to russia by iran, and now it is actively using them in the war against ukraine in the south in odesa and mykolaiv, in particular, according to the south command, one drone was destroyed by air defense forces, two hit a military infrastructure object as a result of a large-scale fire and the detonation of ammunition, an administrative building in odessa was organized, one person died there, six more iranian drones were shot down as a sign of protest, ukraine revoked the accreditation of the iranian ambassador and also ordered a significant reduction in the number of

diplomats in the iranian embassy in kyiv. the influence of third countries in response, the spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine called on iran to stop the supply of drones to russia. they invited an expert on international politics of the ukrainian institute of the future of ilyukus. i congratulate you. well, the ukrainian military is now saying that iranian kamikaze drones are very useful to the russian army, because russia is already running out of stocks of missiles that, er, they can be said to be saving, and they are more actively switching to the use of iranian drones, in particular, in the south of ukraine a-a is this true or have the missiles really run out? i have no idea, are you asking me such questions here, is it necessary or an insider the information is very sensitive or some well, somehow calculate it, it is obvious that there is one fact that

can be called in principle about it, it was already known for a long time that the russians could not develop their own drone program, well, that is, they have their own drones, but there are not many of them and they could not put them on the conveyor, well, these are quite serious shock models, on the other hand, iran was more successful in this, although it was under sanctions, but they used their industrial capabilities better than the russians, plus iran, why it is also an attractive partner, it is very cheap, it is a cheap machine, that is, in contrast to the american ones, for example, which are the best even today, but they are very expensive, and iran can make hundreds of drones , which are cheap enough, they are not mega high-tech, but they are effective. that is

, it is one of the of the few countries in the world, there are not so many countries in the world that are able to independently produce drones, therefore, in principle, here in russia there were two options, either to do something with their own production, but without access to technology in westerners and others, they can’t do it or negotiate with some foreign countries, obviously the chinese. as far as i understand, they either didn’t want to help them or there was no conversation about it, well, in iran, they were able to knock out at least one party for sure. well, in your opinion, why you that's why the game went for it . well, ukraine and kyiv granom were not enemies . what is the interest of iran, so to deliberately go for the deterioration and diplomatic, including from ukraine, well, this is one of those questions that, unfortunately , we don't have answers for now, here we can miss i i miss the fact that the decision to

sell drones to russia was made by iran itself, and it was most likely based on two factors. moreover, i think that this decision was influenced by, perhaps , the military from the islamic revolution guards corps. that this elite faction is military and political veterans, i will remind you that iran is a country in which the political system is made up of different factions of elite groups that represent different interests of different categories of population classes. that is, it is not unlike russia, it is not the personal dictatorship of one person. in fact, it is very decentralized. it is an autocracy, and i think that the decision to sell drones to russia was influenced by the guard corps of the islamic revolution and its faction, which for a long time advocated a tougher anti-western course, that is, to sell drones to russia

as a tool of pressure on the united states and iran as in many asian countries, it is perceived in ukraine as a global confrontation between russia and the united states, since the united states is the enemy of iran, so this is considered as such a logical thing a logical step in response to the sanctions that the united states has not lifted on iran and even strengthened this year, that is, the second factor that influenced this was the worsening of relations with the united states and the impasse in which the negotiations regarding the nuclear program just reached they came to a dead end, these drones immediately appeared in russia and they began to be noticed already in ukraine before that, as you know, in the summer when this issue was raised, i think there was no solution, because just in the summer, the usa and iran again started talking about nuclear program, and there were even optimistic assessments that they

will still sign the agreement now, most likely, they will either not sign this nuclear agreement, or i don’t know when they will do it, but now the negotiations have been postponed indefinitely, so the iranian foreign ministry hinted that ukraine was under the influence of a quote from a third country when the frame criticizes the delivery of drones, what third country is it, well , it is obviously the usa, or is it possible that it is israel? ukraine, well, the ukrainian snake wrote about it. about the fact that ukraine allegedly turned to israel in order to receive a request for any information about the cooperation of iran and russia, and i think the iranians have this , well, that is, they think or pretend to think that ukraine is like that in a way chooses israel and uses their data, and definitely from the point of view and

early all the data of israel this is a lie well, they, because they are enemies here, if it was different and you should not expect different rhetoric because of that but it seems to me that it is not important, they had to explain it somehow, they explained it is very traditional for me, that is, it is all a conspiracy of enemies, that is, how they always explain a lot of things, the key thing is that, in principle, hmm, to say that i agree that the iranians - ukraine were not enemies , and they are not enemies, but i cannot say that we have relations somehow developed, that is, ukraine was quite passive in this direction, so it seems to me that we either did not have the tools to somehow influence the potential decision to sell drones to russia, or they ran out, well, when the war began, well, that is, the war did not change modality of our relations, unfortunately, it would definitely be better if all this did not happen at all. because it is in our strategic interests that ira does not get closer to russia, but on the contrary, that he

reintegrates in defense with western economies and signs nuclear agreements with the states in such a way that oil and morning entered the european market, well , at least from the point of view of the strategic interests of ukraine. it would be better, but we see that not everything always happens as we want. well, in your opinion , is this diplomatic démarche sufficient for what ukraine succeeded in de-accrediting the iranian ambassador, reducing the number of the number of the number of the representative office, what else can ukraine do in such a situation? it seems to me that ukraine is supplying weapons to the aggressor who is active against us. that is, well, we ukraine had to react somehow and i believe that the reaction was uh enough, that is, i think it would be too much to break diplomatic relations completely and they were not severed, and that is good, that is, they left the channel of communication, which in principle is correct, and that's it. will depend on whether iran will continue well, that is,

whether it will still be a one-time action or will turn into some kind of systematic cooperation well, then it will be necessary to react in the future and demand unconditional explanations from the iranian side, because there has not been a clear explanation so far and this is, in principle, a key problem. i think that is why they did not immediately make a decision to revoke the ambassador's accreditation. i do. well, i understand that there were negotiations behind closed doors with, well, that is, through closed channels, in order for the iranians to somehow explain. that is, i think after the answer was received. no answer was received. ukraine has already made an official decision. i consider it quite acceptable within the logic of our position in the context of the war . in the future, they talked about iranian drones that it provides to russia, on february 25,

chaplain vasyl vorozub, together with colleagues and a doctor on board the ship sapphire, went to snake island to collect the bodies of the dead servicemen to the island, the participants of the mission never reached the russian military violated the conditions of the green corridor, captured the ship and transported it to crimea from there, after the filtration camp, the prisoners were attacked by all call to russia about daily interrogations and torture about how they were inclined to refuse the exchange, father vasyl vorozok told the radio there was freedom information that there is an agreement with the russian side that we will be given a green corridor but it was a deception when we approached the island of a snake there was a command dan to our captain what to do he stopped at the cinema as he was waiting for the surveillance group because he

would be shot. they even laughed that three priests and a children's doctor were going to capture a snake, they asked what intelligence agency do you work for, which branch of the sbu do you try, when we answered that we have been an independent state for 30 years we have not cooperated with the kgb for 30 years. and neither with the fsb nor with any other services. the camp is a filtration camp

, a tent city, they were kept in the snow for two to three hours in this frost, hands behind the head, on the knees, quietly, when i raised my head, i wanted to separate myself, i was hit on the head with a butt when i even asked how, how, specifically, how are you, i say, father vasyl for example, automatically translated on the stomach, because you don't have a name here, you don't have a name here, you don't have a name here , and there's no god here, yours is not here. then we were sent to this filtration camp in pre-trial detention center number two. well, it was in the old oskol, and it got even worse there when it led to a walk there there were no cameras there, they could hit, beat the dog, poison it so that the dog would bite, because we were driven, they drove us with dogs, what

they mocked, tortured during interrogations and subjected civilians to drinking, you can only imagine what they did to our soldiers. in the beginning, we were forced to listen to that solovyov er vorobyov solovyov that skabeev at one moment when the negative surge came that moscow mercedes weave when our warriors our little soldiers started who who shouted hurray and who shouted glory to ukraine who sang our father bandera that is all the pre-trial detention center it was buzzing because we made it and drowned, after that they turned off the radio and started listening. we even calculated the following formula: the worse

they treat us, the more victories our soldiers have on the front lines, because they beat us and beat us with rubber cakes the interrogations were carried out by wringing their hands, and they learned what to do in one of the interrogation letters. they asked whether they saw the shelling of the civilian population of luhansk and donetsk there, or did they see that, did they see that , and one of the questions that i will now say more precisely. do you know? вы или владете информация bender's location, they found a photo of yarosh standing in the phone with such a handkerchief,

when they saw it, it was even worse than a business card and they started beating it. what is this, what is your phosphalt ? they didn't let me in for 11 or 12 exchanges, then they took me out two times already for the exchange, they changed their clothes, well, it seems to me that it was such a psychological, such a pressure, that after that they stole everything, they canceled you, they took your hokhly, they didn't want to, almost everyone was forced to give up exchange, but we had to record on camera that we are refusing because we are afraid to return to ukraine because we are afraid of nationalists, patriarch of the russian orthodox church kyrylo said in his sunday sermon that i am quoting the victim during the execution

military duty washes away all sins kirill previously supported the russian army and the national guard fighting against ukraine, but for the first time he declared that death in the war against ukrainians cancels all sins for russia during the traditional sunday sermon patriarch kirill actually compared the mobilized russians to jesus christ, in his opinion of their death in the war against ukraine are sacrificing themselves for others independent russian media noticed that the concept formulated by kirill is as close as possible to the concept of a martyr, a martyr in islam, we can watch this excerpt from the sermon of the head of the russian orthodox church, we know who today many are dying in the fields between the gates of the church, pray for brian seba to end as quickly as possible, so that as few brothers as possible killed each other in this

brotherly murderous war, and at the same time, the church realizes that if someone - then, driven by a sense of duty, he fulfills his oath, remains faithful to his vocation, goes to fulfill what his duty calls him to do, and if a person dies in the fulfillment of this duty, then the fulfillment is not in doubt of an equal sacrifice he sacrifices himself for others and because of that we believe that this sacrifice washes away all the sins that a person has committed. well, to discuss the statements of the patriarch of the russian orthodox church kirill and his attitude to

russia's war against ukraine, we have invited religious scholars, doctor of philosophical sciences, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation viktor yelenskyi, congratulations good evening to you. well, earlier we heard kirill say that young russians in the war against ukraine are performing a feat, but it is known and there are facts about the crimes committed by russian soldiers against ukrainians, including those in the occupied and liberated territories, and it was as if there was nowhere to go, but here is a new sermon that the deadly war against ukraine washes away all sins, and you are surprised at all , what kind of emotions i have for the sermon patriarch kirill, this is a surprise, the fact is that, firstly, the fall, as they say, does not happen until the middle, it continues until the very end , secondly, patriarch kirill, well, he is mistakenly

perceived, including in many western countries as a religious figure he long ago he is not like that. he has made such a serious and tough evolution since the time when we remember him, at least i remember him as an archbishop in the late 80s, when he spoke about the fact that ukrainian catholics have the right to a dignified expression of their feelings then since then, he has made such an evolution that his statements should not be surprising , secondly, thirdly, everyone should understand that kirill is the head of one of the ministries of the russian federation, and the ministry is not the

most important thing in he does not have any of his own to the authority, all this capital, which he owns, is what he delegated creams to him as the chief of the ideological department, by and large, he is the same ideological servant as solovyov kiselyov skabeeva, and he is trying, well, not to be worse, so he is trying to hold on, hold on to this in a row they are all very similar to each other they all once hatched from liberal eggs and carried out this evolution i think because they never had what is called empathy they never had any conscience like that the shell about which sajani told the educationists and er, this is er, their evolution, it is very, very, very

logical, i know that patriarch kirill er tried to maneuver, he er, well, he didn't always want to be the worst er a student in the school of hatred of ukraine, but he was quickly scolded and he became a stream and he does what he does, so i think that the national security and defense council should immediately impose sanctions on him. yes such sanctions as, for example, have already been applied by great britain and the same sanctions e should be applied to him and his closest entourage should be applied in all western european countries and first of all it seems to me. i don't think so. i know that the most

painful for him will be such and such sanctions from switzerland. he very much likes such a luxurious lifestyle he really loves a swiss author, swiss banks, swiss watches, and it will be very painful for him. what the wing said at the sunday sermon, doesn't it turn out that he allegedly announced a-a well , so to speak, in quotes orthodox jihad against ukrainians because the forgiveness of sins through death in war or there or during a terrorist attack is the same islamic fundamentalists preach as far as we understand this is absolutely not a christian concept and its er christian theologians of course that er have every reason to er sharply er condemn not

just criticize condemn as it was with the er document about er is the legal doctrine of the russian world which was signed by about a thousand orthodox and non- orthodox theologians , university professors, but i would like to remind you that in the 10th year, putin said literally the following, i am quoting for er, so as a reminder, i was just told here that er, orthodox i am much closer to islam than to catholicism. this is his direct quote. it comes from that message and goes from that concept that is applied to orthodoxy in

putin 's russia. to orthodoxy very, very uh instrumentally, he gives himself up to himself because orthodoxy in russia in no way can contribute to the elevation of social morality and the instillation of christian values ​​- it is not necessary, but it can be used as a tool of foreign policy activity and actually everything on that the moscow patriarchate has been directing for the past 20 years is the achievement of foreign policy goals in ukraine, western europe, and recently in africa, north america, and even looking at the far east once putin attended the evangelization and the local bishop

began to complain to him that the chinese invaded the trade of the far east, agriculture, and then advised him. and you say, do business among them in the city, you convert them to orthodoxy, make them our people, that is, for i say it again, the moscow patriarch and the russian orthodox church - this is just a tool for the achievement of the foreign policy of the nationalists, so we heard you, unfortunately, we have to end the broadcast on radio freedom, viktor yelenskyi was an expert on religion doctor of philosophy on this for everything subscribe to radio svoboda on facebook instagram telegram and youtube well, freedom life will return tomorrow every saturday political club

helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world vitaly portnikov host of espresso and invitation experts based on facts give their assessment and the forecast of the development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, see saturday's political club that saturday on espresso great britain expanded the list of sanctions against the russian federation, all because of the of pseudo-referendums i congratulate you, dear tv viewers , i will not only tell you about this together with the news editors, but i will start with the fact that the russians hit populated points in kharkiv under enemy fire