tell me, please, mr. mykhailo, where else can i borrow funds, well, within the limits of the so-called economy, but this is when i was returning from kyiv, i see that they are already starting to repair the road from zhytomyr to rivne. yes, it is already a little because it is from 2,000, and it is 9, 10- in the 11th year under the euro, they were being built or repaired, but it could still suffer and the road is still there because there is something to drive. are these funds? when pensioners are really expensive if not it will go to ukraine next at the customs, as there was no order and there is no order, they decided to return the excise tax on fuel and as if there will be no additional funds because it will fall into the pockets of the citizens because the price of the good store will rise, the

next thing is that what are we talking about in the articles on maintenance and funding today, the funding of government bodies should be reduced today we believe that the main thing is needed is the army and social protection, there is where to get the money, you just need to check, uh, where we earn it and where we spend it, the same reduction of the bureaucratic apparatus, do we need so many ministries today, so many military administrations of regional i.e. there are many questions that have yet to go, and how many district ones do we still have ? science and culture as a result of certain

draconian measures, so to speak the functioning of the development of our culture, the same institution of the book, and so on . then he, well, at least that's how he is quoted. he said that what we were fighting for then and it's really very similar now the situation is clear that the first priority should be defense and security but considering for all other expenses, it is necessary to feed the priorities so that we do not cause irreversible losses in the world of cultural science, and this is precisely where we see unfortunately, in our opinion, the science of european solidarity unjustified reductions here precisely with my

colleague mykhailo very later in the sense that those things which the authorities now allow in budget planning, they can be completely avoided and still pay attention to the redistribution of at least those revenues that are there to support education, in particular in the part of teachers' salaries of the new ukrainian school, because if this experiment is abandoned halfway, then we will not have a reform of education in the field of science, because in the end it can allow ukrainian weapons to get a new lease of life, and ukrainian scientific discoveries that can have an absolutely applied value to ukrainian culture, because we have many we hear about the fact that it is also the front and that the army language faith is important in all three of its components but we see unfortunately unjustified abbreviations but to say we understand that there are unjustified abbreviations but we could easily use them for one thing or another,

because if all these funds went only to our defense capability, but the historical uah 600 million is for financing single news. it is a little possible too cool . but if there is another half a minute, i just wanted to develop this idea, because there really is a you are the only marathon, although it is about the fact that it seems that all journalists are able to work in wartime conditions, and it cannot be a situation that all levels are ten times more, and in the end, espresso and direct and fifth should return to the digital air and it would be much more to contribute to the defense capability of the country because we see even the annual survey when people are looking for balanced information, looking for different points of view where security requirements are met but show people information more widely and eh in this way, the european status is preserved, then we, in particular, with regard to freedom of

speech, that is why it is a very important thing and, in the end, it is a very important thing not to fall into, you know, such a temptation to restore some kind of fraud, we see constant attempts to somehow protect again talks about roads, talks there about some kind of rewinding of streets at a time when housing is standing without glass at a time when we see what is happening in the liberated territories, then these are all unjustified expenses, they can be completely compensated by the fact that the funds for them are taken for those unnecessary expenses that my colleagues and i just wrote about rostyslav, i want to ask you about education, yesterday i spoke with ivanna kobernyk, she says approximately the numbers now say that we will have fewer children well, there are already 200,000 not only due to the war, the birth rate there also fell, but this means that there will be less subsidy and education in the communities, as in general, what you see in the budget is how much the communities will be able to survive

on their own in these conditions, taking into account the decrease in funding, unfortunately, you are very right you use the word "survive" because that's actually how the question is asked. and although we heard from the minister of finance that at least the salaries of teachers will be respected, i saw this draft budget a, which was presented yesterday at the committee on peace affairs science of innovation, there was a very tough discussion on this matter, and even independent of professional affiliation, the question of what funds should be directed to this will be raised, because despite this and despite the fact that there are supposedly fewer children, despite the fact that many have left, but this does not mean that the load fell on teachers because many continue to study online, many choose other forms of education there, extracurricular, family education, etc., which still involves the participation of ukrainian teachers. well, in the end, the verkhovna rada accepted legislation on guarantees for teachers for teachers and this must be observed and this is again

about the issue of unjustified reductions that have to be compensated not necessarily by losses well, perhaps the information would just like to provide a little statistics if we are discussing such an important topic, here is what it says people's deputy mykola knyazhytskyi so, in the budget for next year, funding for culture has been reduced by almost 40%, compared to the 21st year, to the state cinema -ukrainian cultural fund and the ukrainian institute of books they give money that is only enough for the salaries of employees, and even then not for everyone. it is proposed to reduce the expenses for state support of cinematography by 85.5%. despite this, they give almost 20% more for the leadership and management in the field of cinematography. the budget of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance has been reduced by 20 % for the protection of the state language leaves only uah 17 million per year, despite the fact that the expenses for the president's office are planned in the amount of uah 1 billion

, spending on propaganda is increasing by 231 percent, not on independent ukrainian media, but on production and broadcasting of programs for state needs, that is, we basically have such a strange methodology, that is, on the one hand, she understood, and on the other hand , that is, when it comes to, for example, the financing of unified news, we understand that we do not have a single, joint, unified marathon, that is, there is another channel, the council is there social and so on, perhaps it would be worthwhile to optimize the funds, or are they optimized taking into account the fact that these are completely different legal structures p. mykhailo well, two words about local communities, in fact, it was possible to restore e.e. leaving local communities in the so-called personal income tax, it is very important because it is almost 20%. every citizen who lives or works in that territory, the funds go to the local budget, the proposal was initial

to take everything to the center, thank god it was possible to defend and it is at least some kind of funding, but it is not enough for the topic that you are asking under uh, 600 million, well, this is an extremely large amount of money. well, let's go to be taken into account, almost a billion is half more than half a billion money, i'm sorry, it has to be one region pays such funds per month. that is, it must be treated very carefully when we talk about culture. i agree with mykolai knyazhytskyi that cars of cinematography. so when, how not now, make documentaries about our heroes. god grant that they all remain alive, but every recorded day is a minute - this is a chronicle that is needed. the same applies to books. well, when should they be published when we have a fresh history, a history that shapes the future because of that, i will insist and

i will ask the homeland team that we actually joined those efforts to return to the full funding of culture about workers, you see in the united communities , this culture begins there, this is the support of cultural houses or if they were not called now. including going to zero and supporting the morale of our military, that is, a lot of such things that today need to be financed, there is no need to save, it is necessary to save, so i agree with mr. by rostislav olenko, when irpin today, there are many freed cities, people are asking to give us funds for the roof of multi-story buildings inside, we

will go down ourselves and make repairs so that in winter we can live nearby, they are asphalting the street and people are sitting without a roof over their heads, where are the funds, thank god, we have also allocated enough, we are not enough we don't know, because the inventory is not complete, but the funds are allocated to help people rebuild their homes, but that's next year, and what will happen in reality when they're patching a highway in zhytomyr oblast, and somewhere there, chernihiv region, sumy region, kharkiv region, there is simply nowhere for people to live on the border, which every day is just shelled and disguised, everyone is in action, the action does not respond to anything at the regional administration, they say that the information has been passed on to the communities, and you are somehow there alone . who should i hunt for here? they are a friend from trostyanets, who was under occupation for a month. he says that we ourselves, the employees of ukrzaliznytsia, patched the windows and doors because the chief from kyiv will come to

check this premises of the state-owned ukrzaliznytsia. enterprises well, so that we simply understand the level and the people of the houses who will do it, it is very important that espresso and direct fifth return to the digital air, that you talk about this problem because it is not a question of security, it is a question of effective use of the funds collected from taxpayers and this should create abnormal information and public and healthy pressure on the authorities so that such things do not happen because we do what we do and that is why. by the way, the european economy suggests that parliament in a recording with all the necessary security warnings, but broadcasted so that people understood how to address such and so that the deputies had leverage and reported all these things to the officials so that the officials understood that attention would be paid to them and that they were

now engaged in fraud with this looting, there is simply no way , because now many people write off for the war and it turns out that these unjustified expenses go to this , the pennies that are collected in the budget instead of the absolutely necessary expenses that currently have to carry the state, well, you answered the question why are we not on the air, because we are talking about it, and where do people get money, what is your recommendation as a people's deputy, what to do with people whose house is broken, no one promises or says anything, first of all, you know. we have many people's deputies, especially in the localities, who were elected from the servant of the people, because we and european solidarity and colleagues from the opposition appeal and draw attention to this , but find your servant of the people, who is very many of them, promising you his favorite sport the issue of windows is not windows, but he will definitely be able to ask this question and together here and there we can really

talk about unification and true unity together we can achieve the truth well, maybe we should somehow improve certain mechanisms i don't know, that is, there is a moment of appeal from the citizens yes there is a moment of fixation of this well, and accordingly a moment of raising funds, but we understand that, well, in the communities of the past few months, you are this, uh, i apologize, i will just stop here, literally, we talked today with colleagues, you know when people do it themselves repair we contacted the officials, they say that we did it ourselves, we can at least get some kind of compensation. but you know, we calculated here that it was 4 times more expensive than what we did. don't give us statistics so that this doesn't happen. so if we're talking about deputies and control to take these white people from the bureaucracy by the hand, because you walk away from my batteries, so that they work, and so that they don't use these kind

of scumbags who then tell us about the bad things of politics and statistics. no, this issue is not even political why are we talking about this, because this is human destinies, this is human life, that is, a person without a house. well, you understand , she has to live. we are going into the cold, mr. mykhailo. well, in fact, the verkhovna rada, in my opinion, has done almost everything that is needed for the work of officials, we passed a law that gives it is their duty, first of all, citizens to register their property losses in the local government bodies, the official district administration of the oblast, it is all recorded by people to enter these sums into the system, and after that the officials have the right and the obligation please check the cost accordingly, but in order to return the money to the people, they are not returning it yet. in fact, people are not registering for money , just like what happened to internally displaced

persons who were told to register in the system by the end of april, people registered and the attention of tens of thousands of people's database disappeared and people did not receive the 2,000 hryvnias and 3 for a child who is not a minor or a person with a disability , now the ministry of social affairs advises them to come to the social security office in the area of ​​residence, register and we will return you 2,000 or three but april 2,000 and october 2000 is a different value of money, moreover, a person needs to apply for a place to return to where they are or at least sent. people's deputy of ukraine and a member of the committee on education, science and innovation were with us. thank you for your participation, we will now add yevgenia kravchuk and we will also put all these questions to her, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy head of the committee on humanitarian information policy, mrs. yevhenii, good day, congratulations, i don't know if you heard our conversations at least a little or

not. we are talking about the budget, we have finished the implementation compensatory programs well, let's get to the key question, it's still compensatory programs and finish with culture, that is, we wanted to involve you in the discussion of the situation with the funding of culture . in particular, this refers to the state film institute, the institute of books, the institute of national memory, etc. and at the same time, about 600 million millions of hryvnias goes to the only news of the telethon, and also taking into account the fact that we have several additional television institutions that are also financed from the budget, but somehow

we see some strange imbalance, there was probably an incorrect interpretation, there were terms about the only news, there was 0 money invested for the marathon a-a these funds, which are called informational, this is financing of ukrainform, which, by the way, work for information e-e assistance to our embassies abroad, was a state agency ukrainform has hmm e-e branches in brussels in other the cities of strasbourg and they cooperate with our embassies, which, unfortunately, also now have certain difficulties with personnel due to reductions, so there is already such a synergy here, and our representative offices, including abroad, also provide funding for foreign exchange by the way, i work a lot on international platforms, and what we have for broadcasting, which

works in english, including russian, is approved by our partners because they say so. you should try to somehow reach people abroad or in the temporarily occupied territories, that's why not a single penny has been invested here for the only news , well, at least what i saw in the budget for the first reading regarding the financing of cultural institutions, uh, indeed, we already raised it with the ministry, the ministry of finance, from the premium we will ask for the second reading to include amendments to add at least a small amount of funds for grants, that is, for institutional support for the purchase of books for libraries that can support publishers' books at the same time as grants of the ukrainian cultural fund, let's see, because well, let's be honest, here, on the one hand, we say that there is no money, so we have enough money to compensate people whose homes have been destroyed, and this is also

true, and when i go to the kyiv region, well, people there are already like that it's getting cold, i'm thinking how to survive the winter. yes, it's a difficult budget this year and next year, so we work in parallel for personal reasons at the international renis, e-e, in embassies, with e-e colleagues, deputies from other countries, we also ask for blood supplements donor funds for the financing of grants and for the financing of culture, including for the survival of monuments that were partially destroyed in the winter, because if they are not preserved correctly, then after the winter there will be even bigger problems, therefore we call on the deputies of other, including opposition factions in on this issue, to unite and reach out to our colleagues, including western colleagues, so that they, hmm, provide targeted grants specifically

for the support of culture . she returned after 2014, but it’s not like that, because it’s ours . in 2014, we had funding at the pre-war level . only in 2019, it’s like this. unfortunately, there were also problems in the 14th, 15th, and 16th years of ms. hanye well, we are not talking about the predecessors, this increase was established in the same way as the indexation of the salary of pensions, but here we are comparing the minimum pensions, which in our country exceed 2,000 for barely 2,000 e-e, this is, well, this is an unrealistic amount for simple survival now there are opportunities, for example, there is again a large construction it remains in the budget, or somehow equalize construction salaries, as there is no such thing, this is repair, because in our country, if you go and see how

the roads look, they have practically not been repaired since february, now there are a lot of trucks - these are bridges, and the military themselves are asking for this, because the military is also small they use this as a secret, and about the reality in general, just so that we understand and people understand that this is the most difficult budget in the entire 31 years of ukraine's independence, we have already invested 38 billion dollars, so the winner is the exchange rate so how many billions of hryvnias will it be, it will be almost a third of the budget, donors are closed to us, the three main donors are the americans, the american budget is currently being discussed in the congress, the allocation of votes is truer to the bill of 12 billion dollars, there is also financial support and military support, because we still have to continue to fight. things, er, the congress is already obviously increasing funding by another 600 million dollars from the fact that it is asking for tickets, next is the

european union, which also already has certain agreements there, and there are more er, you know, as they say, we are writing something in gum we still have in mind the money we expect to receive from the international currency, eh, there have just been talks between the president and kriselina georgieva from the imf, they still have a lot of mice, the verkhovna rada has a lot of bills. for that, the directors have to meet there as a group, that is, they have this money you know, they are in the budget, we are already spending them, but in fact, we still need to get them, and when the ministry of finance goes to the creditors, he should say, look at us, well, the situation is difficult here, we, uh, there, we increased the excise uh, income here, we uh, some certain reductions were made in all the ministries there by 10% , the reductions took place, it is very difficult, but we ask you to support us for this third and, well, then the creditors say so, oh, you are really realistic

about your expenses, i perfectly understand that this is little money for your pension well, my parents get a lot more. i will help them. well, not everyone has someone to help. you see, i am simply thinking about those people who have no relatives there , and i am terrified that we still need to win the war, he is not yet terrified. i believe with faith that we have to win because of the war, and that is why we have more than a trillion to spend on the security and defense sector, and well, yes, it is so that in our country, in the first place, it is military expenditures, and then all social expenditures come. please note that in 7 months, almost there were no delays in pension payments, because i just know everything, because my mother tells me, well, you know the first number, and i haven't paid yet, when will it be paid, and well, a few days pass, the payments are coming, i talked with foreign journalists, who are not very many in various military points 11,000 journalists come to the event

accredited in ukraine are now coming and saying, you know, we are surprised because we were in different wars, and after almost 2 weeks, everything collapses, the entire financial system is a complete collapse. and you can pay with a card here, well, that is, life goes on, that's why you know . but we all need to get together, uh, you can spend it, because mine can be another 100 billion. i really hope that just colleagues from other factions, well, they won’t submit. as always, there are thousands of amendments for another budget, or we have enough of it with you in of other factions, mykhailo tsymbalyuk, give him a word, respond to it, mykhailo well, i partially agree with mrs. yevgenivna that this is a difficult, difficult budget , it is the budget of a warring state, and the defense sector is in the first place, and we support this idea, but in fact, we have to honestly say that the real

living wage is not 2,500 and this is more than four thousand, not only for august, the month of which the ministry of social policy is talking about it, here we really will not submit, as you say , thousands of corrections, because there is an agreement to only speak in principle about those things, but we will insist for the minimum pension to be calculated from the real living wage or for us to honestly say that 2,500 is half of what the state can pay, a compromise should be sought here, and the next thing is that we do not see the risks in the income part of e-e regarding the return of our debt obligations and we hardly see the government's proposals for the restoration of our economy. this is the problem with the loans, you clearly mentioned it. thank you to our international partners, but we cannot live on donor money anymore. moreover, you

know that donors do not give to the defense sector. they give to the social sphere and development, but here we have to demand from the government and we are ready to support you, whatever the prime minister in the verkhovna rada says, they plan to do to finally restore some sectors of the economy or start new ones, after all, we will finish the warring state one more source, well, and let's also be well, so that all people understand the budget, it's not the bible, it's not accepted, then no amendments are allowed in it, even the constitution is being changed, and the more so the budget, and we're already in 22 in the last year, it was allocated several times as soon as they found additional funds, if we found any help from partners there, it went to some kind of restoration of critical infrastructure or to the army, well, that is all, or

there were subsidies, it all changed this year, respectively, and in the 23rd as well only there will be additional revenues, of course, and they will be distributed, first of all, to make it easier for people to live, where to work, and how to feed themselves. possible sources of filling my budget, we also calculate this, confiscation first and sale there assets of russians in ukraine, and it is precisely from these funds that the fund for the restoration of ukraine will be financed. already even in the 22nd year, we hope to launch such a fund at one of the nearest meetings so that the government can have the right to spend money there are russian banks and sberbank. there will already be some additional funds , including i really hope that they will go to housing compensation, because it is absolutely true that people near these ruins are crying and do not know

where to go to spend the winter next year we are working to ensure that we have already received funds that have been confiscated or frozen in other countries , for example, canada has adopted such a law on the right of the canadian government to transfer to a third country . first of all, they should go to the restoration of the economy and the restoration of critical infrastructure, social infrastructure and housing ms. yevheniya thank you for taking the time to join yevheniya kravchuk people's deputy of ukraine deputy chairman of the committee on humanitarian and information policy mykhailo tsymbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman of the committee on social policy and protection of veterans' rights analyzed the most important budget process and certain distortions, we understand that

there are many expenditures in one budget, but it is about parity in the distribution of funds and the budget policy is thought out accordingly well, we pass the word on omega thank you to our guests and you for being with us during these hours antin berkovskyi thank you to all our viewers again guests of radio svoboda further in the occupied territories of ukraine the so- called vote for joining russia has ended kyiv convenes the un security council for western leaders in the next round condemned what the kremlin calls referendums ukraine