then all these rallies and protests that arise, including in the northern caucasus in dagestan. in short, do you believe that they can lead to some kind of mass protests, if the people have a desire to live freely, they should fight for their freedom, if they have no desire to live freely if they recognize the russian tsar . well, god is their judge, listen to them. we cannot fight for their independence for them. we made a decision quite a long time ago in 1991. it was established that we have no desire to live under the russian tsar in we are a separate country, we have a separate nation, we have a separate leadership, and the request to them is quite simple, one thing is to get rid of us, we do not touch you and people do not touch us, thank you very much for your comment on radio svoboda, oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council, was live thank you ukraine well,

let's go back to the topic of the departure of russians from the russian federation against the background of the announced mobilization, and against the background of this news in kazakhstan, in particular, prices for rental housing jumped sharply, the border regions there were the first to react increased from 50 to 100%. market analysts believe that everything is to blame for the speculation of the landlords, our colleagues from the present time in asia tried to rent housing in almaty, calling themselves russians, did it work? look, they rent an apartment together with a friend . % the girl admits that the amount announced by the hostess is beyond their means and now they will urgently have to arrange for new housing. the price situation has already risen a lot for the

students, and here the russians are also heating up the market . it seems to me that some kind of law should be adopted. because if you take our situation, we can literally be left on the street. our rights are not protected in any way. the most expensive rental housing in the country now in almaty, the prices for two-room apartments are announced on the websites and fluctuate around $1,000 per month, and it is not always the case that there is a lot of real estate in social networks . in order not to overheat the market, now we will check whether it is really more difficult for a citizen of russia to rent an apartment in kazakhstan than it is allowed for kazakhs, and so we have an apartment in the center of almaty, the cost of 83 dollars is approximately $ 240 higher than the average salary in almaty hello, you are renting an apartment yes, tell me, but in your advertisement, 400,000 tenge is indicated, this is the final price, yes, i will give it, yes 4 i understood another question

, i am a citizen of russia, you are a citizen of russia, you need to register there, but i don’t i'll do it, there's nothing, no need to register, no need to do it, just in general, yes, go. well, these are the answers that came out to our colleagues who, uh, to demolish that it's not asia, who tried to take out an apartment from uh, and introducing themselves as russians, well, the minister of internal affairs of kazakhstan marat akhmedzhanov said that the authorities will be forced to extradite to russia those wanted for evading the mobilization of citizens in the event that they are declared on the international wanted list, how is kazakhstan reacting to the mass flow of russians fleeing from the mobilization, let's talk with us live, the president of the public fund liberty galim aguelov and kazakhstan hello to russia with kazakhstan, the

most likely large land border, do you know what is happening there now if there are queues? for example, yesterday there was a lot of video information about the georgian border. mobilization has already begun for 100,000 russians, they are now there. they have crossed the border. and now they are in kazakhstan, and they are active in registering to receive e-e, and after receiving it, they get the opportunity to open a-a bank cards. in order to fully use and undergo the operation eh tell me, we just showed a fragment of a plot of our colleagues where they tried to rent an apartment introducing themselves as russians eh and began to ask the question whose krym is in your opinion a partial story private or still such sentiments well, the kazakhs have a cossack

population, and many of them actually have such a strong support and position to support ukraine, because many people participated in volunteering and in support of ukrainians and they helped and they are still actively working and forming e-e transmissions in order to send all this to ukraine and very many ukrainian e-e with e-e kazakhstan and ukrainians who are refugees here they actively participate in the volunteer movement about almaty other cities and therefore, the kazakh population actively supports as for unfortunately, we still have ethnic differences, but a significant part of the russians, she perfectly understands who is putin, don't look at that propaganda is, but it is significant parts of the russians who have preserved

their views and until the last support putin and we are conducting the policy and that's why the division is going on inside and the russians themselves kazakhstan well , the president of kazakhstan said that he would absudit with moscow the increased number of migrants, but he said that there are no preferences for the russians e- it will not go back to the statements of the head of the ministry of internal affairs of kazakhstan, who said that he will expel people who will be announced in the international... after such news, the declared kazakhstan is no longer such a, er, let's say the desired country where russia cannot run away from mobilization. that's how the ministry of internal affairs declared on the ground, and those who came and run away from mobilization, they will not be issued to russia, but only those will be issued who committed a crime on the territory of russia, and these are the people,

yes, they must be extradited , all the others will not be extradited, and that's why they and kazakhstan itself are 40%, and 60% of the russians remain in kazakhstan - that's who perceives kazakhstan as a country of transit in order to fly to another country. ugh. and tell me, we also watched a video from kazakhstan, including where there are such private conflicts when people tear up or swear at people who have signs for example, zet is in a car somewhere else, uh, this is coming back to someone’s krym, uh, from zvojno, to rent an apartment, this also happens constantly, it’s just now clear that uh, many russians will come, maybe they too, some uh, there are similar ones views maybe they are too some of them support putin a-a and what he is doing now in ukraine eh, but still, well, in

kazakhstan it was initially not welcomed and therefore all the symbols of zet you and not all a-a require precisely the citizens of kazakhstan to remove it eh- that's why people who come with this symbolism and this dialogue are not welcomed in kazakhstan, and they are constantly oppressed because our people don't like it and they understand that these people support aggression against ukraine or any troubey country she is a-and in kazakhstan, it is accepted negatively that this is a enemy, that this is what it says, it is not a well, how can it not be supported in kazakhstan itself mr. audiologist, here is a short summary if you can and please answer, you know that now the so- called referendums are happening in the occupied

territories of ukraine, which are held by moscow, and there is a high probability that this friday putin will announce the annexation of these territories to the russian federation. earlier, we heard that the president of kazakhstan does not personally recognize this told putin, eh, the illegal military formation of the ldnr, eh, will he have the same position regarding the possible annexation of these newly occupied regions , well, kazakhstan will definitely not recognize these referendums because we know how they are conducted, and we fixed them. how this happened in the same crimea in 14 years, this all happened not by the voluntary will of the declaration, which means that they did not participate in these elections, so you are talking about the fact that these elections are free and open and correspond to international principles of course, that's why it's a part of ukraine

and a beloved country, of course, it's just like the honor of ukraine and in no other way. thank you very much for contacting radio liberty. it was galem agulov, the president of the liberty public fund. the occupation forces of the russian federation created a pseudo guard in its basement , set up a torture chamber where civilians were tortured, the press service of the kharkiv regional prosecutor's office reports, during the inspection documents were seized to confirm the functioning of the pseudo police department and the apparatus how the occupiers tortured civilians with electric current report by yaroslav kravchuk a mess

and now it's scary and there's nowhere to go home is the only one of our houses the majority have the only house this is the only one train station where did they train people, break everyone's psychological state, then take these people to the basement, which is located in the courtyards of shops, and those people who were ukrainian-minded or former the military took out wholesale the crossing point of the state border, where there are ukrainian cells in our border service for the temporary detention of violators, and there already the fsb service

was already working more brutally towards patriotic people and retired servicemen, and recently they were in the basement where a local a torture prison, they decapitated people well, somewhere people experienced such hard times, many local people whose fate is unknown to this day, many people died in many people they forcibly evacuated to of the russian federation, children were also taken away, unfortunately , now our relevant services are engaged in returning these children home , prisoners of war, prisoners of war, and civilians

were also held here. they also conducted interrogations. of the united forces and who did not have time to leave the territory of the city , they interrogated them here, and also, well, they interrogated them by a non-human method, simply because they mocked people, they wanted to hear information the one they needed ukraine offered to create a special international tribunal to punish russia for war crimes committed by the troops during the war against ukraine ambassadors of 30 countries accredited to kyiv handed over the project of the special tribunal on monday ukraine insists that in the investigation of crimes in particular in buch borodyanka and izyumi, foreign

experts should also participate. and the tribunal itself should be international, according to president volodymyr zelenskyi , the difficulty of prosecuting russia for crimes lies in because the existing international legal instruments are not sufficient, the difficulty of prosecuting russia for this crime is that the existing international legal instruments are not sufficient , a special international tribunal is needed, and we are working on this project in great detail and meticulously. i have no doubt that the tribunal will be responsible for all those who develop waged this criminal war against ukraine and freedom in europe. and to discuss the topic of the possible creation of a tribunal to investigate crimes in russia, we invited the lawyer of the people's deputy of ukraine fedir of vinyslavsky, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, please tell me , volodymyr zelenskyi also

insists that this tribudal was an international er, um , why er, more precisely, how exactly are these international eyes, 30 representatives of 30 countries, now have to react to this by leaving to your countries, how this process should proceed, look, you and i have already talked several times with your colleagues about the fact that today there are several key international legal mechanisms that could potentially be involved in order for russia bring to justice for those war crimes, crimes against humanity, for the genocide that russia actually commits in ukraine, and there are several parallel tracks, some of which are already involved - this is the un international court of justice for the crime of genocide - this is the european court of justice of human rights, which examines violations of the convention on the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the first days of the war . as soon as we saw the horrors of the

russian federation, as soon as they were documented as systemic crimes that have no sign international law crimes, crimes against humanity, war crimes, we began to talk about the need to create a special separate international criminal court like the nurnberg trial, and during the post-world war ii period, there were also existing mechanisms for bringing nazi germany to justice, and the international community did not exist and first of all, the members of this coalition of states that fought against fascist germany, nazi germany, they just came forward with the egg - with the initiative and ultimately developed legal documents, statutory documents of the nuremberg tribunal, and he fulfilled his mission. when we talk about the initiative of ukraine, we mean something like the one that will be created by the international

court of justice. an aggressive war is exactly how an aggressive war is resolved, this is a separate international legal crime, which in this case was committed by the russian federation and 30 representatives of foreign states in 30 regions that were handed documents they primarily represent those states that have united around ukraine, which help ukraine politically, financially, and militarily, and i think that our actions in the first week of the war, when we invited international criminalists to ukraine, who , together with representatives of the prosecutor general's office, together with representatives of the national police of the state bureau of investigation, they recorded the crimes that you are now showing on the screen, as a result of these concerted, consolidated actions, no

one has any doubts that russia is at the level higher military direct executors as well as those who brought the crime of the time to responsibility, the office of the president under the leadership of andriy skvirnov worked for us for a long time with the following documents, now they are completed and the ambassadors have the opportunity to hand them over to their governments and their parliaments in order to produce this an agreed position in order to directly conclude a certain rich exchange of international law after the war, an agreement on the creation of such a court . this international tribunal must be created after and end it cannot er take place during hostilities well see here two options actually i think that right now when we have already distributed these documents draft documents for representatives of foreign countries for ambassadors they have the opportunity to

study not transfer them to their competent authorities, first of all, the offices of the general prosecutors, the offices of the ministers of justice, for the governments, so that we can study this very procedural part of the creation of such a court, there are two options the first option is to sign such an international document even before the end of the war. i am convinced that it would be very important and ideological and such a psychological factor of influence on the russian federation, but it is let's say this. there are certain doubts that our partners will already go for it. if we will manage to convince them and we will reach this position , then before the end of the war, if a decision is made, then after the end of the war, but you know the main thing in this case is the inevitability of the creation of such an institution and the realization by every scoundrel who committed a war crime, a crime against humanity , that his actions will not remain

unrevealed, mr. vinislavsky, i understood correctly that there is no body that should coordinate this, that is, this tribunal will be created when, for example, 30 of these countries will sign an agreement according to which it will be to be conducted correctly, look again, we currently have a global security organization, or the international organization of the united nations, the united nations can be created under the auspices of the united nations, but we perfectly understand that the institute the un and especially russia's presence as a permanent member of the un security council allows it , for the first time, at the level of the security council to block any decisions using the veto rule a at the level of the general assembly to include all its mechanisms of influence and also let's say so potentially block the creation of such an institute, so we emphasize once again that we are considering various options now . the main thing is that we proposed that conceptual

part of the statutory document, and then we will figure out how to properly approve it, whether with the participation of the un or on simply on the basis of a multilateral international agreement . thank you, a-a, on radio freedom live, there was a fedirvenislav people's deputy from the servant of the people, they talked about the creation of a tribunal to investigate crimes in russia. environment will become the head of the government of ukraine this is the result of the early parliamentary elections that took place this weekend. for the first time , a woman will become the prime minister of the country, the leader of the far-right movement brothers of italy georgia putin's long-time friends, ex-prime minister of italy silvio berlusconi , whom putin considers a close friend, as well as league leader matteo salvini, known for his pro-kremlin

position, will also return to the government coalition. secretary of state anthony blinker , the very future of prime minister george emeloni advocates support for ukraine and the provision of western weapons to kyiv, assures that he will be a responsible head of the government, and yes. when the results are counted, we have remember that we are not at the end of our journey, from tomorrow we have to prove that we are worth being in power radio svoboda correspondent in rome natalka kudryk joins the air of radio svoboda a-a natalka i congratulate you good evening, but before that the italian government supported ukraine in the european union in the group of seven what will happen now and whether the future prime minister of italy is really so friendly towards ukraine,

and the first reason why so many people are optimistic about this support for ukraine is because at the beginning of the war, the invasion full-scale russia to ukraine. she really took a pro-ukrainian position together with the government of the dear e, despite the fact that she was in opposition to this government, her position er-er her position boils down to the fact that er-er russia is an aggressor er the european union er should be protected er- e ukraine because if ukraine capitulates then e russia will win and then it will be a positive sign for china and we don't want to be under the power of china meloni thinks so and considers it unacceptable therefore actually for supporting weapons and for e-e anti-russian support transfers weapons of ukraine. she also supports anti-russian sanctions and has repeatedly assured since february that we can say that, unlike

her allies salvini berlusconi, she was quite direct, linear and consistent in this. there is also a second reason why. there is hope that meloni will not deviate from along the way, she leads the well-known european party of reformists and conservatives, which unites the so-called shops of eurosceptic conservatives in the european union, and the influential force in this e-e party is e-e polish law and justice and such a close contact with the poles , kaczyński says that after all, miloni will focus more on poland, which is very supportive of ukraine , and therefore the uzu will conduct its policy approximately in the same way in internal politics, it is possible that conflicts with brussels will arise, but in relation of foreign policy, as it is about doing it, poland will support washington and brussels, too. one more fact can be cited as a confirmation of why this party really supports

ukraine. the last visit was a delegation of the party to led by a senator, a member of the party of the brothers of italy , adolfo ursode of kiev, to warsaw and washington, and it was an unprecedented visit of this kind, taking into account an important historical moment, they announced personally to the office of the president of ukraine that this support will continue, and of course there are certain reservations, many is and believes she is criticizing her former policy. since 2014, she has taken a pro-russian position, opposed russian sanctions, and some members of her party are also associated with the promotion of russian propaganda here in italy but most are now paying attention after she won that meloni is still a pragmatic politician, a pragmatic woman and she will not be interested at all on the foreign front and have problems with france, germany and already brussels

, or even more so with the tone, as far as now serious connections of the same silvia in berlin with putin, because we remember that they have a lot of such friendly friends last year, his close contacts, so to speak, are very well-known friendship with putin he often tells us that in 2015, we remember berlusconi came to crimea already in the annexed crimea and together with putin drank wine, for which he was banned from entering ukraine for three years, and even during this election campaign he had very scandalous statements about the need to understand putin, he didn't want to, but he was forced to enter ukraine, he just wanted to change the government, put decent and decent people there, then immediately took them away due to criticism, took his words back and already right before the elections said no after all, he is not so convincing to euro-atlanticism and

will have a long and friendly cooperation with melodi in particular well, but this concerns personal relations with berlusconi and actually his party before italy, but the opinions are slightly different because they are considered such a euro-atlantic centric force and there is in particular a person who is running for the position of minister of foreign affairs of italy, antonio, and the former chairman of the european parliament is convinced of the european e, therefore, regarding the party of berlusconi, it cannot be considered 100% pro-russian in relation to salveni, there are also others there is another story in his party, it is more closely connected with the kremlin and there are facts, and in particular, now the main question for observers is how these two allies of the exchange, silvio berlusconi and matteo salvini, will they interfere with her foreign policy, or will they still receive such a low result for them in the elections they will still sit

quietly and listen to what the prime minister will say . natalka will probably be appointed as the prime minister. italy after all voted for the extreme right, the international media write that this is the first time since the fascist dictator benito, that's why the soloists uh, it happened like this . of ancient history and the history of fascism has long been put in the archive in books that's why and why exactly they turned to the electorate and voted for them precisely because it was the right that managed to accumulate this protest mood of voters and that's why a lot at such a critical moment when there is inflation and high prices for gas, you have to pay for heating and also a way out of covid, there are a lot of different

problems and meloni is at the forefront of the melody and the right were able to show that this is something, well, they offer actually, they are more appealed, they were able to appeal to the stomach rather than the head of the voter, and this is said by some in general, they openly state that because they shouted louder in the squares for them and voted for them and also about the melon, she was able to bring such a certain element of novelty to this campaign because in the past, the leaders from salveinia and berlusconi are very well-known, it was already the same as the old one and meloni presents as a new sound natalka thank you very much for the comment on radio svoboda there was natalka kudrya, correspondent of radio svoboda in rome they discussed the new premiere of italy, thank you well that's what we have scenes don't forget to subscribe to radio svoboda on facebook, instagram, telegram , youtube, twitter there you will find exclusive materials of our correspondents from the war and not only well, freedom life will be back on the air as soon as tomorrow,

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