i don't know what the average salary forecast there is from 14 1/2 there to 18,000 hmm ah well, we see and we understand with you that if today the average salary rises, even if the average salary is already a huge plus, but we must also take into account that declines that are present in our economy, well, the growth is three percent in 2023. well, what are we doing with inflation at 37% of gdp ? the moment up to four percent. they, the question was different. will the parliamentarians have a consensus or not ? during the war, you know how to pull in different directions er your own well there is and yes if the parliament

didn't play around people wouldn't even be happy when our people are returned er from captivity but it's hard for me to comment on what they will think er here's the thing there was a question what was the beginning of the completion of a large-scale invasion? at that time , the people's deputies gathered in the conference hall. they stated a clearly official position that for the period of the war until we achieve victory, all political things of our own, those things with which we do not agree, we reject, we put aside, that's how we understood well you you know, i didn't want to. yes, please allow me to comment. i absolutely agree with mr. burkadze that, unfortunately, now we see the renewal of certain political battles. you know, the country's budget is always apart from the fact that it is the main financial document. the document for a year ago is absolutely correct. as the chairman of the expenditure committee, through which

the consideration of all amendments to the budget passes. we have seen three and four thousand budget sleepless nights that took place in the committee, thank god parliament no, what we are currently hearing from the faction , some have already officially announced that they will submit a large number of amendments, they will try to increase certain expenses that they consider to be a priority. but at the same time, there is a consensus that when we will what was stated by mr. kornienko, the deputy speaker of the verkhovna rada, there will be appropriate communication between factions, political groups will determine critical key points that they will insist on in order for the budget to be voted on time, i will explain why this is important allow me to make just one comment about what i personally spoke with mr. marchenko, this is fundamentally important

precisely for the answer to the question you asked at the beginning, because in order to cover the total deficit of the state budget that will be in the 23rd year, the victory does not need to start today and the sooner the final, respectively, state budget for the 23rd year is adopted, the faster and, accordingly, the more effectively we will enter into negotiations with international politicians, it's just an open topic. as they say, you know then, i once mentioned that there was a call from the vice-speakers korni from the back yes that everyone should be unanimous and that is normal during the war during the war emphasizes because there should be a discussion it is also normal under the dome but lately there have been theses from certain parliamentarians of certain political forces that well, for example, someone there from some groups er votes as it is needed there by the servants of the pro-government police, there are such er such criticisms, then i ask her

if it does not even concern the budget but there is unity and understanding in legislative activity law-making today under the dome among all representatives, well, it is definitely better than it was before the war, but unfortunately i agree with our expert, after all , sometimes some political parties of the group begin to forget that there is a war in the country and begin to defend their certain political interests again, so if you compare until february 24, we observe that a large number of draft laws are voted on by all votes, but at the same time we see when certain shake-ups occur and, to my deep conviction, in the appeal itself of president volodymyr zelenskyi, who today i can say with absolute certainty is a world leader - he is clearly perceived, thanks to which we receive both weapons and funds in the budget, and he

called on everyone to finally understand that this year we will adopt a financial document and not a political one god, we will win on the 23rd and we will already adopt the budget of the 24th year. as you said to mr. roman by the whims of individual political groups and parties, then the question is, returning to the budgeting itself, we noted about this the head of the exchange said 50% for defense needs for the army and so on . in terms of expenses, this is the social sphere, but after the social sphere , what should be provided the most, what is the most vulnerable for the budget of the 23rd year. let's say , what are the directions? i think that in principle it was already sounded today, it’s actually medicine and education , er, first of all, probably medicine, because although well , it may not be necessary to somehow separate education and medicine, they are equally important. unfortunately, we now have such a situation when the level is really high

disability as a result of hostilities, plus we will have some maybe there are postponed medical conditions, in particular , there are forecasts that at least 15 million people will need psychological support after the war, that is, i will have to work with these things, too, clarification of why medicine, education, if we know that from the very beginning of the large-scale invasion, firstly, there were a lot of medical facilities, institutions and schools destroyed, unfortunately, by the enemy , they are not working, secondly, we now have online training, and thirdly, a lot in particular, ukrainians receive medical services in the countries of our neighbors in the countries, that is, according to the idea, this funding should be, well, significantly reduced according to logic, or is it possible that somehow i am assessing the situation incorrectly?

of course, we now cannot predict how the military operations will develop, and when the war ends, we understand that it will end, but when exactly and what will it cost us, it is currently very difficult to assess from the other side, as you say that we are helped by western partners. yes, it is true . however, if ukraine declares itself as a social state, then the state must fulfill certain at least part of these social guarantees. regarding education, you say that online schools work. this is good. but on in my opinion, this is a temporary solution, because , unfortunately, they do not provide full online training. well, let’s say that it does not fully perform those functions, as they say , performing does not perform

. the maintenance of teachers' schools, many teachers left for now i haven't returned and so on, well, look, let me comment, in fact, you can't say that we don't think in the budget of the 23rd year about overcoming the consequences, in particular, and in such a new form , this is the creation of a fund overcoming the consequences of armed aggression, it will currently amount to 19 billion hryvnias plus a reserve fund that will amount to more than 17 billion hryvnias, these are the funds that will primarily be directed to the restoration of destroyed infrastructure facilities, including kindergarten schools hospitals in order to once again give people in the liberated territories the opportunity to live , learn, be treated, function normally in relation to schools, yes, that is absolutely true, the worldwide subsidy

has been reduced due to the fact that many parents are still deciding on distance education, many teachers have left, but there is no need forget that there is a new program - this is the construction and reconstruction of bomb shelters, for which 15 funds will be provided, which will create national liquidation clothing until 19 e-e reserve 17 and for the bomb shelter separately, this is not restoration and the creation of new objects 15 billion. see these lines in the budget, the title with a positive e-e. let's say so in a dialogue with our partners, when we understand where we find funds, nothing prevents us from making changes to the state budget, increasing these or other problems, the construction of bomb shelters is restored schools and other educational and

medical centers take the honors, at least for now, those are the partners you mentioned, who take patronage over specific cities , regions, and others. for example, in irpen, you mandatory even in schools, the europeans are building zhytomyr in the zhytomyr region, but we are talking about a systematic approach when the state for the 23rd year lays it down in separate directions with programs, that is, in addition to the unconditional support of our partners, our words to one more guest p georgiyu tag zapa e p borik abi you added to this in relation to the recovery and compensation for those losses in terms of bomb shelters and the next issue of infrastructure and recovery to various e also stands. currently you have sports. i would like to comment on education medicine, but we had 155 billion for education , 155 mm left, they left, well, we have to understand that

the deadline is one trinon uah, it didn't just appear, you and i understand very well that today practically 40-45% are our partners who help us , we are only in september we received uah 53 billion from our partners, listen, but miracles don't happen. well, it's impossible to have a budget deficit of 40-45 billion dollars by the end of the year. well, it's roughly like that there 38 is also 40 billion. well, because you include 38 billion, that's why today we have a catastrophic lack of money in the country, so it's clear. how can the government work within those limits

? now, what about the help, i want to say, listen. well, let me tell you honestly that the promises made to us by our partners are not happening at such a pace as we would like to see the figures you mention there. unfortunately, for now today, there are 100,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 1000,000,000,000,000,000,000 u.s. dollars. today, we have good news . we will give another 400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. 38,000 er, er, the construction of the building is there, yes, we are suffering there, there is the construction, only 38,000, well, how about we, er,

we will not build it until winter and there will be snow and rain , i want to tell you that this figure will change and we will not be able to for this money, build eh this volume eh everything is correct, eh. dear eh, bans, i want to say that today everything possible and impossible is being done throughout history, in my opinion, if i’m not mistaken, pensions have already interfered 50 times, the only time where it was in my opinion in the 17th year. well, almost there by 40%. well, if they didn't change my memory, that's why. well, today, in a country where there's a war going on, we're throwing all our resources into winning the war, well, to think that we'll be able to cover all our expenses there. well, i'll tell you honestly, what well, it 's not logical, so let's do it

we will try to start the economy, but we will not be able to start the economy . so to speak, we have lost the economy, well, in fact, heavy industry ah, for now, at least, it needs to be restored, but it is a certain time, eh, the extraction of fossils, all this, there is coal, there is gas, and so on, it is suspended. and this is what formed the honors the budget, the sale of metal at the same time, and this is our trading company. and what can resuscitate the economy today so that the economy will work? well, we lost 30% of crops, for example, this is the south of its east . i will say well , first of all, i think that uh, if we had

the opportunity to work on it so that we could start shipping our farmers today, we understand that we are standing. today 12,000 have been demined, more precisely, only 12,000 in kharkiv, in the kharkiv region , that is, we can see today that the relocation of 1,800 companies that have declared, submitted an application, launched only 30%, and for small businesses, we will give them a starting point so that they start working and began to grow our economy and also work so that our partners helped us attract them today, we have all the dollars there, yes, our imports have already brought exports eh well, almost in

half, so we must today in order to started the economy, even start the same post-recovery, thank you. by the way, what is the company that is located in the lviv ivano-frankivsk zakarpattia region and what will improve. thank you. another topic, er, so georgy perekadze, we say goodbye to you and thank you for the opportunity to talk, and let's continue the topic with our guests, yes, and any expenses for social programs prime minister denys shmygal said that there will be no cuts next year, that is, pensions, benefits and subsidies will be paid in full. at the same time, there may be problems with the planned increase in pension payments, because due to the war, the budget may not have enough money, but the government promises to settle this issue and according to the law, the state is obliged to raise pensions in march

2023. also, as oleksandr kornienko, the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada, said on the air of the national social assistance telethon it will be strengthened, additionally measure how the allied states will increase the financial support of ukraine, for now the number one task is social indicators, do not lose it, this is the support of social standards at the level at which they are in principle, and even a small increase there, the indexation of pensions is planned and will increase with us from december 1 minimum wage, it will be there next year, that is, whether all things are planned, one must of course understand that it is not planned, large capital expenditures are not planned some development expenses are very powerful, all the same, the funds for the e-crediting program 579 and for certain intelligence in certain industries were little

chased. well, we also talked on our broadcasts with your colleague on the supreme council. now it’s about attracting funds. it’s not about loans, it’s about losing and non -returnable financial assistance because you need to cover all these indicators, including social payments, so absolutely true, well, what exactly did e mention as a result of the direct work of the ministry of finance of the president's government, 50% of the aid that was provided in the 22nd year is irreversible, and therefore everyone is actively working to attract the maximum amount of irreversible aid in the 23rd year, here, our guests just mentioned that regarding support of development and opportunities for business, i would like to note that 16 billion have been allocated to program 579, a program that has shown itself quite effectively. well, plus other additional grants to

support the class are almost 2 billion 1.67, i.e. actually, we have this as a priority, we talk about it constantly with our foreign partners at the parliamentary level, as people's deputies, the government, the president, unequivocally, everyone, in this case, has such a one voice when we talk about the fact that today we are fighting globally for democracy and, accordingly, once fate has turned out that unfortunately this is happening on the territory of our country, we count on understanding and support , and indeed, at least 50%, so that it is irreversible financial support, better more of course, or again, we discussed the conditions of its provision that would allow the country. by the way, at the meeting of the verkhovna rada committee, when mr.

marchenko communicates with his visa holders abroad, he asks for conditions when the loans will be repaid within 15-20 years, so that after victory we did not immediately feel, you know, such an incredible financial burden for a country that is being rebuilt, he commented on this in the sense that when criticizing, we collect these loans again, these are debts, because he is just this one, i am talking about the fact that they are long-term and the burden is scattered on decade there for more than 10 years during his report when he presented the budget in the verkhovna rada because well, this is really a very key moment because it is necessary to understand how to rebuild the country after victory, this is not a problem because many countries live with debts and, by the way, have stable economies. the main thing is to this money was skillfully disposed of. now i have another question about the reconstruction. ms. lesya pointed out that innovation is slow here, as we

have already noted. they will also be already as irreversible aid, this is international aid, well, look. actually, all these expenses that we mentioned are included in the expenditure part of the budget, the expenditure part of the budget is currently twice as large as the income part, that is, if the income part is there, it is about 200 billion trillion, then accordingly, the expenditure is more than two trillion, i.e. in fact, all this will be balanced in the budget at the expense of internal borrowings, we must not forget that our national bank was also a very important donor to the state budget, buying out the military bonds, because today we talk a lot about foreign partners, but we must say that we have internal borrowing and the second component is directly our international partners, that is,

these expenditures of 19 billion are laid down and they will be financed as a program of the state budget. well, to the panorama then another question is your position, it sounds as follows: head of the department of social strategy of the national institute of strategic studies, are your priorities for studying the problem, as it is the social security itself, at least somehow it will be maintained in the sense that our inflation will be at the level of 30%, and additional payments for various categories this year and next year have not been more precisely provided for, so we understand that people will be impoverished by those 30% themselves, that is, it is this social security that will suffer directly, so you are right when you say that people will be impoverished in a certain way. unfortunately, our task is also to look for some alternative models and

alternative sources of funding for social expenditures, unfortunately, so far they do not allow us to speak simply of the percentage coverage of these deficits that may arise in the budget in relation to social expenditures , but so far, the most real are those that are real. to note that well, we cannot count on this help enough , because it is a voluntary gesture of our partners, that is , today they can support us tomorrow, maybe they will have some opportunities there limited, the second approach consists in the fact that it is simply necessary to slightly optimize these expenses in

this context also in - it appears to be the correct approach of the so-called verification of social expenses , i.e. checking to what extent people legitimately receive these social benefits and in fact . well, we do not see that there is a lot of money that can be saved on this . social insurance or other similar semi-finals were held already then on this topic. well, you know, i absolutely agree. including that. we must look for ways to optimize. and at the moment, in order for the aid itself to be targeted and maximally oriented to those who need it, the state is also carrying out those reforms about which mr. roman mentioned that from october, the

pension fund will start paying subsidies and counting directly from december. we mention there that the ministry of digital transformation has reduced their maintenance expenses by almost 70%. that is, taxes on local self-government, self- government, that is, a big process is taking place , including within the country, of optimization, and again, this budget clearly defined two vectors, and as a conclusion, i can say that it is security, defense, and it is the people. it is you. thank you, we have to recognize the reality that times are not easy. but we have no other choice but to endure and live and about and pass it all and definitely win thank you very much for the conversation roman vlasenko, head of the department of social strategy, national institute of strategic studies, as well as lesya zaborona, chairman of the

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