not justified, but i can't understand why there can't be an espresso tv channel in that single news. i don't understand why there should be a 24-fold difference between different factions in this single news. and here again, it is more likely that you hope for the litter of numbers, you have nothing to do with something else. the question is, if we talk about the espresso tv channel, it seems to me that there is some other tv channel that has not yet been included in this parathon, this question is to what extent the strict censorship framework is justified, and will these channels really be able to, as someone or zelenskyi or one of his spokesmen said, that these people do not want to negotiate, bearing in mind, obviously, this moment is quite delicate, that is, there are such things as freedom of speech and there are such things as necessity,

military censorship against which no one absolutely there is no dispute and all journalists think they support them when it comes to journalists, but i also clean the issue of propaganda and well, this is not exactly what is suitable for a journalist. i agree with you and moreover, i will tell you that everything it's all these restrictions, they sometimes offend me, they just offend me in the sense that they all come from a certain, you know, that ukrainian society or the ukrainian media are somehow not mature enough, well, they don't understand what can be said, what can't be said, which is absolutely untrue i just happened to meet a person yesterday and they were talking to him there. just two days ago, i was just in odesa from the fact that it is 500 m, maybe 600 m from my house, and there was a quiet arrival of iranian kamikaze drones. well, it was loud there they still tried to shoot them down. well, that’s the way it is, and we discussed it, and he says: yes, he’s there. as it turned out

, he lives nearby, and he says: and i even have a video of him somewhere. there’s some kind of camera standing there, which means he took it. and he himself tells me it’s very simple, absolutely . he is a simple person, he says, but i did not download this video to anyone, not this one, even though there is actually nothing like that, but the person has censorship, that is, to what extent does he understand that this is not a topic where it is possible, and in general, ukrainian society is very mature , we have demonstrated this the war is now being won not the ukrainian state, but the ukrainian society, the ukrainian society is winning in that war, and it is a war of putin's vertical against the ukrainian horizontal, and this horizontal is winning. well, what if we talk about the state? well, we have huge problems where the state is, there are many issues, and there are all these issues closes society and in the supply of e-e is necessary for our military and to clothe them not to feed them to give weapons in their hands and to help refugees and to help

displaced persons this is what everyone deals with in the first place society first of all and incredibly there i have we there announced just recently 10 in 10 days we collected for 10 anti-drone towel suitable potter well what i do is more than $100,000. this is how it happened together with the people. that is, it is incredible where and such people. this is just such a small drop in the great sea of ​​ukrainian volunteerism. therefore, it seems to me that it is necessary to treat ukrainian society and journalists at an absolutely mature and highest world level and simply not do it in this pe- sometimes silly things and we make the decision. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the conversation. oleg created a little bit about the budget and whether it is distributed fairly. we will also continue this topic, because actually uh, on such a ukrainian cultural fund that shaped ukrainian culture, uh, and that

ukrainian culture in fact the ukrainian inform space, and not only the ukrainian one, should have talked more about some of our er heroes and not those zapobryka who introduced themselves as burya moiseyev, but somehow there was not enough money there too, and now we will talk about it with iryna osadcha, this is the deputy the director of the ukrainian cultural fund actually allocated money only for the salary of the fund's employees. and for the project, i understood this way , mrs. iryna, correct me if it is not so, where will you look for that money and how much money would be needed to implement those projects that would be worth implementing you can hear us, you live with us. good day. good day. i'm sorry, i'm a little out of touch

. times when the war is going on and when they say that culture is important, actually, not funding the same culture, why wasn't it enough? i can't answer this question. i think that the verkhovna rada will answer this question when they finally approve the budget of the state budget for the next year and currently i can say that the ukrainian cultural fund submitted a budget request that provided for, well, let 's say the minimum satisfaction of the needs of the ukrainian cultural sector in the amount of 250 million, but we know that at the moment the draft budget is not provides absolutely no funding for the next year to support cultural and artistic projects, therefore we understand that the situation with the budget for the 23rd year is very difficult and on the one hand we understand that there is no money in the country but all

the funds go to protect our country, and on the other hand, the cultural front is also extremely important and in many ways depends on it. our victory on the same diplomatic front and on the international front is not going to talk about the simple truths that everyone knows that culture is important. yes and what are we fighting for then, so let's hope that the situation can somehow change, and i know that minister oleksandr tka voiced at the cabinet a-a about considering the possibility of revising the budget for the ukrainian cultural fund and we want to hope that somehow they will hear us and respond e- it 's a bit like giving a display for the audience. you see, lesya kulyuk and i, for example, have a certain conflict of interest when we discuss this topic because we have already been announced

as the winners of the next competition, which is our project we participated as screenwriters, we submitted ourselves because we had an idea before the war itself that it would be very useful for the ukrainians to prioritize, i did not say anything about it in the artery. and there is something that the ukrainians will benefit from. we believed very strongly that the war would be successful. partisan war and in general, we are banderas with the idea of ​​stepan bandera, but how to create an army and modernize it and have such resistance to russian influence on everyone at all levels well, we submitted such a project so those were the methods that were then are they effective or are they relevant now, well, but we can see from the way that all of ukraine sings a red viburnum in the meadow, how the whole country together with the blue and yellow flag raises the red and black just looking at the fact that, relatively speaking, we have cultural life is not as if it has stagnated, it is

simply let's say that it has narrowed down to the size of the 95th quarter and its productions , that is, it is present, it is present in the airwaves, it is present in some cultural field. but is this enough, relatively speaking? no harm in financing the same productions of the 95th quarter in the next year's budget, and why is it believed that they will be effective and they are part of this cultural narrative, but there is no, for example, how much was allocated last year for grants of the ukrainian cultural fund, a billion 700 million uah in the past last year we supported more than 400 cultural and artistic projects that were successfully implemented. well, i want to tell you that we had very big plans for this year as well, because at the beginning of the year we received 2,790 applications for project support

and the general center of the warehouse in their four billion hryvnias. well, we expected that this year we will support quite a lot. these funds also went to support the armed forces of ukraine about the ukrainian cultural fund. money, because it is someone's acquaintance. for example, i am seeing ms. iryna osadcha for the first time now in this connection. relatively speaking, when we won our project on financing 10 days of independence from the ukrainian co-cultural fund, it was a huge surprise for us because it seemed to us that we, well, we didn't know anyone, there were a huge number of projects that competed with each other, we didn't even expect that it would really happen and that we would win, so we

were even quite relaxed and it was such a surprise that we had to do everything very quickly now now it is easy to predict who will receive funding for the next year, because these are people who are in the field of what currently exists . groups of the 95th quarter again. sorry to repeat it, but i, well, i think that there is a problem with this, because if culture is financed according to such, hmm, such a slightly nepotistic principle, is it good for culture ? the distribution of funds is still happening in our country. it’s just happening in a different way. to answer , i can’t be responsible for how the budget is currently formed and which institutions of the organization are directly included in this budget that can be directly financed. i can say that the ukrainian

the cultural fund is a state organization, but it has such a transparent mechanism for the selection of these projects. this is a multi-stage competition that all our applicants go through, first they pass a technical selection. then each project is evaluated by five experts, and after that these selected projects are selected after expert selection is already approved by the fund directorate and approved by the supervision, after that the list of winners is already being formed and how much money does kf have, how much according to the rating register, and the winners will receive it the number of winners and will receive funds for the implementation of these grants is bad, does it mean that they will receive directly or is it good? hmm, maybe the state is deciding what is the priority now, and i can’t answer the question specifically, because we are

working in the background of ms. iryna, how do you explain to people who are out of touch with the culture of the direction, who don’t really understand what the ukrainian cultural fund is, who don’t really understand how funds from the state budget are distributed fairly or unfairly, and who have quite a lot of stereotypical thinking, when they hear the word culture, they immediately imagine some kind of scene on which some group of guys in trousers in some kind of embroidered clothes, uh, girls in crowns, and there is an uncle standing with an accordion, or not at the accordion now, but playing some uh, music somewhere they pulled from the internet such a violently not very thoughtful one and here they think that this is exactly what culture is and that's why they say and why is this culture worth money? did you hear my question? do you have any

problems? i didn't hear how to explain to people who have a stereotypical idea of ​​culture there, there are some harem pants dancing there, girls in crowns run out, how to explain to them the importance of the existence of such an institution as the ukrainian cultural fund, for example, in particular well, other institutions and why money should be allocated for this, what is ukrainian culture and support for ukrainian culture a-a well, look at this idea of ​​culture, as we are already used to calling sharovarshchyna there, yes, it recedes, let’s say, into the background, and when the ukrainian cultural fund forms its project support priorities, it forms its own competitive programs, first of all, we try to cover all sectors of culture and

art that work in our industry, and we also take into account all the factors and all priorities that are necessary to meet the cultural needs of our consumers and also the needs of our artists for their self-expression. that is, it is not only sharovarschyna, it is also modern art projects, yes, modern exhibitions are very interesting now, er, vr projects, yes, and modern exercises are very interesting now, and during which various there are er the modern effects of our activity is followed by either a participant or a consumer of this cultural product that we support, can understand that it is not only that there are trousers, dances and everything else, these

can be very serious projects that are related to research that also related to e-learning in the cultural field and these can be innovative cultural products. well, of course, these are also such significant events that take place in our country and a lot of projects aimed at presenting our culture on the international stage arena, that is, i want to say that there is a very wide, very wide circle of these cultural products that can only be now, we cover and support absolutely all projects. thank you, uh, for taking the time for us. iryna osadcha, deputy director of the ukrainian cultural fund, we talked about why so little money has been invested this year for the activities of the ukrainian cultural fund and for the

support of cultural projects. getting rid of all kinds of monuments that somehow connect us with the russian world vadim poznyakov co-founder of the project decommunization of ukraine contact us a-a p vadim we welcome you to us e-e i see that lately i don't know who it is but some such volunteers run with cans of red paint and after that the pushkins in kyiv blush pushkins in kharkiv who are these who are these people of good will and most of them are our good friends and they have a lot of work or do they still get rid of these memories executioners, now i will ask the directors to show those

pushkin's bust in particular, but there are others as well. this is the monument in kharkiv, he turned red, and this is the monument that turned red in the metro in the capital, it is still standing there, so how much work did those good friends have, they made a red-skinned pushkin, it is impressive at the same time, all the possible races of the world, do those guys have a lot of work, or are they helped in the end by some kind of central local government that there is actually still a lot of work with kateryna, and if we take the renaming of the streets there, it is probably now, in parallel, since 2015 at the age of 16 a month is now somewhere plus or minus the streets to be renamed on the territory of ukraine, because but this is being done now because the processes were launched back in april. and with monuments, everything is much more difficult, because

most of them are art monuments of some local or national significance, and the ministry of culture not in a hurry to grant permission for dismantling , i.e. mr. tkachenko no no very high-quality work, people on the ground can take away monuments, but the ministry of culture must give permission for this after all, that's right. of course, of course there is also sabotage on places - this is also odessa - this is a special example is the monument of the scroll, the monuments to catherine ii, they are not at all the honor of these bul- in any register, and their dismantling is generally only a matter of political will , that is, it may be although today the decision of the odessa executive committee to dismantle and tomorrow they can carry out the dismantling or even today if there is a decision of the executive committee, there is no way to support but maybe it is just a challenge that there are some protests among the population and maybe people are used to these monuments or have a great sympathy for them

of course, odessa wants a specific city. but i think that if there was a test layer with conditional suvorov that is there, i don't think that anyone would be very afraid there, except for a bunch of morons who are waiting for russia from their socks. yanska video of the liberation and what are they? well, again, what do you see that there are russians everywhere, wherever possible, the tricolor everywhere, there are some slogans, russia is not with the russians, one mouth, or the russians are one mouth with the russians, and so on, that is, russia, that is, the russians used as much as possible the time of the occupation in order to put up the maximum number of signs like this, hmm , well, this is surely an important experience for us, should we also react in some way, and in fact, it strikes me that how many more objects that

glorify the communist regime or russia remains on the territory of ukraine, or did you understand even there on the territory of the ternopil region of the volyn region, i will wash away the monuments with hammers with inscriptions eternal glory to those who died at the hands of such ukrainian bourgeois nationalists there are dozens of monuments in one pochaiv district in ternopil oblast. there are six monuments with hammers and sickles. that is, they are in ternopil oblast, and in zakarpattia, there is one in volyn, rivne oblast, and these are our western regions. well, there is a lot of work, in fact, we process each territorial community of ukraine, we conduct an inventory and invite everyone to photograph monuments in each community of ukraine, this is not an incredibly big job, and every time you are simply shocked at how much remains we couldn't think of such an incredible monument, it touches transcarpathia, which was demolished

a couple of places ago, where do we touch transcarpathia, my god , he had everything there, he also had a gunman, petka, i wonder if he can be remembered somewhere, it's something like that he is hiding, but it is in transcarpathia, but i don't remember which river he swam into, he didn't swim to the end, and he drowned there, but i didn't know, but i didn't know that it was a river. it was as if it was very wide. well but that joke of a joke was enough one more joke, if you allow me, someone could have asked him why there is such a monument with a sickle and a hammer, well, a sickle is a hammer, but you know, did you remember the joke from the witty words of leps, who once wrote about the fact that a person can be killed with a sickle, you can kill him with a hammer what already to say when both instruments are together well, that's what lets allowed himself to write during the soviet occupation , or something. exactly, we couldn't afford it in these

territories where the repressive machine was turned on at full power, these monuments that remain. but now you say that even there it touches transcarpathia or sickles grind them in ternopil oblast. could kyiv set an example for other regions and other cities, and does it want to show so that we can also see that the monument stands every time it is closed? - there were some curtains so that he could not be seen, then the curtains disappeared, now we see that some probably good friends painted him with a curtain, this is the best sculptural horse in ukraine, that is, there is simply no better one. this is the top of the sculptural image of a horse in ukraine, and that's why it's as if you can suffer for this, even though i'm serious. i've seriously heard such arguments. and in general, kyiv should show

an example, because from the list created by my friends, the list for the dismantling of russian communist monuments and various memorial plaques in there are about two hundred of them in kyiv, that is, in fact, kyiv too. all of them are not very diverse with soviet monuments and russian monuments , dying boards, sickles, hammers, for sure, that is, the work is actually a lot, even the cost of the kyiv council there are still a number of his molotovs, you can go to kyiv where you can see them, what they are still doing there, this is also a question of all the penalties on the kharkiv city council, myself included . show an example, because if there are still so many communist russian symbols in the capital of the country, then even smaller cities will, in principle, look at kyiv as such an example that it is possible to do nothing yet and they will have nothing for it if everything is worth it in kyiv only there are those assumptions in kyiv that there are five as far as i can

tell, that is, there is still a lot of work that should show an example. and why doesn't kyiv show an example? well, i think that the question is about klychka. i don't know what's in his head, but in fact everything is in kyiv and he would if i don't know if there are currently permits for the dismantling of the ministry of culture, but even if there are none, i don't think mr. klitschko can go for coffee with mr. tkachenko or call and ask to speed up this process because it's already been 7 months of full-scale war and plus how old is the law not about decommunization. i remind you that there are still a few objects in kyiv that fall even under this law and everything is in place. and well, it should have been dismantled a long time ago, and the question is all - this especially demonstrates the fact that even the law on decommunization in the kyiv region to the end done so when we talk about the renaming of streets in particular, the most striking example is of course zhukov avenue in kharkiv,

which is petro grigorenko avenue and for me. so what is important in this story is that it is not a story when they say that you had zhukov avenue here and now there will be an avenue, for example, for konovaltsi, well , not even for konovaltsi, let's take something else, let's take it even further. well, i don't know . we can say we want to find a common pantheon and shukhevych fought for the whole of ukraine and so on and so on, but it may be a legitimate question in principle well, let there be shukhevych in lviv, let shukhevych be in kyiv, we in kharkiv don't want shukhevych, but it's not about shukhevich it is about petro grigorenko and this question is also about how to intelligently return the memory of those who can be their own but still not accepted as

their own and we have seen a lot of these renamings when the streets are some kind of communist soviet mukachevo street there became some kind of socialist persikova street, this street near kyiv has old names and new ones, and here are the new ones, one after the other. ah, but everything else is some kind of impression that they opened some kind of biology textbook and what kind of flower they saw, why were the streets called such a flower? even in kharkiv, this is a huge city, but there are small towns where everyone knows each other almost everyone knows where they know well who lived where and they probably have some of their own and even

modern ones if they are already afraid of the old ones, why are they still afraid and all kinds of garden streets are winning in us well, i wouldn’t say that after all, gardens are winning probably not less than half communities, plus or minus, adequately rename the streets very often, we are all called garden peaches, after all, in some rural communities where there are villages of 200-300 people, and i am not against such a code in principle, if it is a small village where mostly only grandmothers live, then let it be so, but vasilka expressed my displeasure. there are also other cities where there is a similar practice, and here the question is for the heads of communities. and why do they not want to be called by national names , that is, are they afraid of someone or are they they are waiting for someone, that is, there are already questions that if people well, let's turn away, in fact, vasilkiv is and not such a small city, this city

is located in kyiv, and there is quite a big one, in particular, about the fact that vadim see also the text, for example, with the slogan glory to ukraine and glory to the heroes the slogan that was born must be students or people of kharkiv know, because i don't know, for example, i don't remember more precisely , the activists of this movement, but they obviously could be such a part of the identity of kharkiv's local local identity, but not is and besides the very important matter of renaming, it must also take into account the finding of the return of such a locus. of course, if we take kharkiv, then kharkiv is actually a very different city, completely different , that is, of course, there are also communities that know and understand all this very well. communities that are generally very far from this national one and want to be able

to put on the same proportions as an avatar, but in their heads they may have such mush that god forbid the protection of the russian language and the protection of pushkin monuments, people they can even fight for ukraine, but, unfortunately, protect monuments to pushkin, which shows the example of some kharkiv residents in kharkiv, the discussion about the pushkin theater, which was not renamed, and about the monument, well, now the entire intelligentsia of kharkiv is discussing it all and a very large number unfortunately, even advocates, that is, that it absolutely struck me even in kyiv, there were no such discussions in kyiv, in bulgakov, and in kharkiv , pushkin, that is, in kharkiv, many people still cannot, even cannons, even this struck me very unpleasantly why are these people who really did something there for the ukrainian kharkiv in order for kharkiv to be ukraine , but that's why they defend pushkin, but there are various streets in honor of these lermontovs and i can't understand what's in the heads of these people, but yes of course, what about by renaming the streets, we should do it correctly and instead of uh, the struggle for our

identity is still going on and we are still, unfortunately, we are not winning here, but we are not giving up. thank you, vadym, for the conversation. these 5 hours were with us andriy sachuk lesya vakulyuk see you see this week in the program collaborators list of miklushkas traitors in cassocks who actually serves the moscow patriarchate this peep collected for representatives of the army of the aggressor country information about the number, deployment, equipment and armament of the armed forces of ukraine instead of the word of god the campaign for the referendum, how the kremlin uses its agents, there are explosions, the blood of corpses, and so on, what they scared us and how pasha mercedes punished the monk of putin's prison, see on wednesday on september 28, the program of collaborators