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it doesn't matter if we held these referendums or not. do they consider it their territory or do they consider it the territory of the sbu? it doesn't matter to us. there is no difference, so we will move forward consistently and methodically. the cec has already drawn the numbers there, although they were probably there by the beginning, about 93 and 11 percent of the residents had already been drawn and they allegedly voted for the region's entry into russia. what is the situation with the local people? events, i think that administrative measures will be carried out. that is, with the issuance of passports to all those who have not yet been issued, there may be certain searches of people who temporarily left the temporarily occupied territory during the pseudo-referendums, and in fact there are a
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lot of such people, but not for it is no secret that voting was mostly conducted by visiting people at their place of residence, as a huge number of residents of the zaporizhia region refused to appear at the so-called election in the precincts, therefore, in principle, they can carry out some new purges, announce hmm, isolated actions to search for ukrainian, nazi and foreign saboteurs there, but specifically, in relation to the civilian population, i think the essential situation will not change, because they have nothing to rely on here, at all, information on this matter is possible received from the mayor of the temporarily occupied melitopol, ivan fedorov , only half a percent of the residents of the occupied part of the zaporizhia region took part in the pseudo-referendums of the occupiers, not a single civilized the state does not recognize either the conduct or the results of the
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fake vote for ihor, but here the question is whether pro-ukrainian activists who i don’t know are under threat to break through or in one way or another i don’t know there by corrupting the russian military and leave the crossing on our territory hmmm crossing again from the occupied territory to the territory under the control of the armed forces of the zaporizhzhya region, all these procedures now look quite corrupt, and the establishment of the russian administration has analogues in corruption which does not exist anywhere in the world, i think it will not pose any problems, therefore, all our activists and cossacks who do not have the opportunity to work actively in the temporarily occupied territory, we invite you to return here and help us in carrying out our
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reconstruction activities of the territorial integrity of ukraine, ihor, what happened with the shelling of the field, the historic building was destroyed, at least it was reported, do you know what kind of building there is, what are the consequences of the shelling, no, this information is not available at the moment i apologize, so i will not comment on the situation in the autumn campaign, we understand that autumn has come on schedule, but it is colder than promised . well, we also understand that perhaps all the necessary ammunition has not yet arrived, and how about that on your part of the front, we are changing into old clothes and all other necessary tools, by the way, to ensure the vital activity and combat work of our units are carried out uh, but again
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, regarding the advance until the beginning of winter, until the great freeze, we are all waiting for it we are actually waiting for orders about what we, the citizens who don't care about, what the fighters need most now, well, in order not to scatter efforts, do you mean clothes or small bags? is there somehow to organize firewood or coal ? it is necessary to concentrate more on large items of expenditure. that is, clothes, provisions and similar things can be provided from the salaries of the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine. i call on the fighters, and in order for this solution not to happen, it is necessary to choose large articles of expenditure , which fighters, uh, let’s say from our own. as in our native sikhov, they say the obschaka uh, they can’t, they can’t close it, so i think that it’s uh, unmanned
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aerial vehicles these are cars that now also need to be re-shoeed and prepared for the winter campaign, and also a huge number of such large-scale instruments of warfare, so please concentrate on this igor . thank you very much. sykhov and from all ukrainians thank you ihor shultys, a fighter of the armed forces of ukraine, a veteran of the ato and a public figure . she wrote about this on twitter in response to the congratulations of president volodymyr zelenskyi on his victory in the elections literally , dear president zelenskyi, you know what you can do
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count on our faithful support in the cause of the freedom of the ukrainian people, stay strong and keep your faith unshakable. well, we will wait for ms. melanie so that her words will turn into concrete action plans and it will not be like the ex-chancellor of germany scholz, who was extremely irritated by the calls to provide ukraine with tanks. so literally in an interview with noen osnabrückersaitun according to the chancellor, the debate about tanks completely ignored the fact that our well their german what our circular exchange we also allow to deliver to ukraine more than 100 battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, such partners as the czech republic and slovakia or romania and greece transfer tanks of eastern european production to ukraine where they can be immediately used. instead, we are gradually replenishing the stocks of our partners
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with western equipment tanks so where are the leopards of scholz? that's what they say, the position of the federal government is clearly not to act independently and it will continue to be like this. you see, everyone is waiting for leopards from them. no no it's an ostrich's position head in the sand a roman govlanya joins the advisor of the mayor of kherson p novel good health good day i congratulate you the operational command south informs us that in the kherson region the enemy has not made any significant changes in the composition and position of active units but is trying to pull up reserves from from the crimean direction, what would you add to us? tell us whether the reserves are really pulling up how much they are able to do, mr. roman. oh , i apologize, the connection was interrupted, i did not hear the question, if it is possible to repeat the reserve command the south reports that in the kherson region their positions and
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forces have not changed, but they are trying to pull up reserves from the crimea, so such information is under the statement and is provided, well, operational information . so, the armed forces, and we today have information about the fact that, well, from the crimea, let’s say, the flow of uh-e equipment is increasing now again, the occupiers are trying to establish e penton ferry crossings across the dnipro river, next to, for example, the antonov bridge and the counterattacks of our armed forces in the direction of the escaped person were sent to novaya kakhovka, well, accordingly, the information appeared, we can only ask you to confirm or deny it in the temporarily occupied kherson, explosions are reported, uh
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, jesus reports jointly, and well, local telegram channels say about probable explosions in the area of ​​the village of antonivka, which is located near kherson, and other telegram channels write about explosions in the area of ​​the kolo hotel and the court in oleshki, hear something about it from your private sources of information in antonivka bridge and, well, oleshkiv, in fact, they are close to that, and the information was provided, it could be skazhem , so, well, confused from the point of view of the location, but what concerns the kolos hotel, there is information and video, photo materials that only strike this object and before that there was information that groups of enemy occupiers were stationed there, the enemy is now preparing annexation procedures, we understand that they are illegal, but for some reason
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he decided, so to speak, to call these lying fake procedures a loud word referendum well, yes well, accordingly, we wanted to ask you what is happening in kherson, in what way the enemy tried to wrap up his war crime in i don't know procedures that have nothing to do with what he is doing there, well, it's really a sham and it's really fake, we all already understood that the russian federation - this is the country of butakoria, the country of fakes. and there is nothing common sense or objective reality, that's why they are trying to transfer their essence to the occupied territory, in particular, kherson region. we all saw the photos that were distributed by the russian pactics, where it was noted that with a 12% turnout, it means that there were 650 people who voted, it is very
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easy to calculate that about 5.5 thousand is the degree of percentages. when there is no control, they walk along the porches and stand under the bushes with these boxes, but the papers are not numbered, that is, a person without documents can tick a box, well, it is clear to everyone that this is just some kind of theatrical performance, which i think even their own constantly intoxicated people will not believe russian people, mr. roman, but the numbers are different, because in other regions of zaporizhzhia , for example, 93 percent, while in kherson region , only 87 people painted vodka or some kind of drugs, already in the one who filled out these fake papers. well, roman,
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comment, be kind. support or opposition and are already drawing some numbers, you and i have repeatedly witnessed the heroic confrontation of the kherson people, especially ordinary residents, against the military and repeated rallies, speeches, constant arrests and constant partisan movement in kherson. therefore, it is possible that this is connected with the fact that there is no permanent picture of an active confrontation in kherson, and 100% of the owners do not want to paint. although i am sure that not only in kherson region, but also in zaporozhye, kharkiv, donetsk region, and luhansk region, there is no less confrontation and resistance to the occupiers is the main rule of propaganda, a little truth and a lot of lies. yes, mr. roman. and what about emigration? the occupied part of the kherson region is generally closed for entry and
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exit, which means there is a lot of information being spread. i tried to figure it out this morning. i would like to remind the question that the only way out is from kherson, zaporizhzhia via the bridge, and i want to note that as of yesterday evening, cars were released from the side of the occupied territory, including men . you are not on the territory, but the traffic is, in principle, from their side, er, today there was a delay in traffic in the direction of the occupied territory of the city of zaporizhzhia, but to what extent i was informed that there were movements towards the occupied territory. therefore, once again, i want to appeal to anyone who hesitates and, well, thinks that the projection
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must be acted upon now and the passage until today, the conditions permit, it is necessary to evacuate from the occupied territories of mr. roman, what is the situation with the preparation for forced passporting temporarily occupied areas of the kherson region, what does it look like and is it possible? well, what should be done, what should be applied? yes, in the current situation, the military and the police are looking for any excuse to to hand in your worthless piece of paper and documents on the territory of the occupied population, that is, any excuse from, let's say, that they drove over the border in the cold and the cold, not the socially disadvantaged classes issue some kind of humanitarian aid there and together with it hand over passports are issued
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, funds are handed over to entrepreneurs, they are not allowed to work, and they demand that they receive this piece of paper, a document, that is, there are a number of such actions in every situation. they try to turn it into an opportunity to hand over a passport in order to, well present at the top with your flag in the list that the work of passportization is being carried out and, well, people really want to get citizenship, although it is far from the case, and you and i can even see with the referendum if they show that 5,000 voted, we can really say that there are close to a thousand people with those signatures this is precisely the indicator of passportization and every time we heard that it was discussed that we have 8,000 people in the queues for passports, 16,000 people for passports, if five
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and a half thousand voted for it, where are all the others who received of passports every day, the queue decreased. and 8,000 remained, again, a country of fairies, a sham country, such are the methods of conducting politics and activities of the independent, what are the citizens of this country and some collaborators of western europe, the enemy behind the scenes in order to try to legitimize this fake process of theirs. and last but not least, i wanted to ask if there is any information about the fate of the mayor or former mayor of kherson, pkolykhayev, regarding the so-called observers. well, i don’t know somewhere there in the crossings of moscow, because they found them there with an accent uh, in some places they took them there with them, carried them along the entrances, took them on camera, and
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called them international observers there, well, if it was funny, but maybe, well, then you are also sad. that's all part of the fayko and well, in general, there are observers, there are articles with you, observers, i will repeat the main process here. as for the mayor, i do not have the information for today. in fact, all the information that comes out is what they have in social networks, there is in the public in principle, he is somewhere in the basement, is he detained by the fsb, or where is he? well, we don't have it. we just had information about the detention. this is the first, second, and non-tax information. information that he is located. well, he was held there alone. some of the regulations where prisoners were received. i know that they gave some kind of help there, or gave
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information, that's the second point. well, the third point, i want to say that it's a rather difficult issue that our special services, including our special services, have to deal with. thank you, mr. roman, roman, the chief adviser to the mayor of kherson, worked live on the espresso tv channel's informational and analytical marathon, 14:47. 000 from ukraine was deported by russia, the press service of the president's office reported about it, the parents took the children away. yes, this is a separate crime. well, now we will add oleksandr moskaluk, a political scientist, an expert in constitutional law, to our broadcast. oleksandr, we congratulate you. hello, rejoice. russia
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has prepared for the annexation of our territories, so to speak, they are covering it up with absolutely lying , fake sham procedures, that is, as far as i understand, they will not have any meaning in the eyes of the international community, but here is one point. russia does not stop implementing its similar policy , and here it should so to speak, understand what we can still press what additional levers do we have? well, if we speak from the point of view of international law , it is clear that there are no levers you are speaking from the point of view, in principle, how similar situations are solved in the world, yes, everything is so obvious here, because when it happens, for example, issues related to a change in territory if we take with you that practice exists in the world , that is, the first one is characterized
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gone if we talk about some such really legal things that drag on in time, that is, it cannot happen elementary even a change of subordination a-a instantaneously as a rule, it is stretched if the jurisdiction of a certain territory, it can last from 6 to 10 years. this is the first point, the second point is that the territory does not even change its subordination, but in order for it to be, for example, become independent from the point of view of international standards, but russia very often likes to talk about kosovo there how so that individual countries recognize, for example, the fact that e-e is related to kosovo and individual countries when you are all very simple, the reason for the territory of e-e to receive either independence or to change subordination is related to the establishment of facts of ethnic genocide, why did it somehow happen in kosovo? well, because the international community determined and recorded the facts of genocide against the local
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population precisely on the basis of ethnic characteristics, and the facts were established on the basis of the determination that the findings were mass burials of consular albanians and this gave a formal reason to talk about how it is changing there, individual countries recognized recognized but there was a reason that concerns other examples of civilized examples there, although it is again here it is absolutely inappropriate to talk about it well, at the same time, in the relations between france and germany after world war ii, the sagar region was part of the part that was actually occupied by france, but then an agreement was signed that a referendum would indeed be held, but this referendum was recognized and as france and as germany, what decision will be made at this uh, uh, if the referendum, well, is recognized, well, in the end, this territory returned to the composition, if yes, germany. i can give many other examples, but well, we all
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you and i perfectly understand absurd situations. the only thing that is possible in some way and the procedures are related to two institutions is the european court of human rights, if we are talking about the european court of human rights and it can establish certain compensatory measures. but russia came out of the jurisdiction of this to the court, that's why this is the case. so, you see that even if it didn't come out, it's all the same, there are examples when, let's say, certain countries refuse to comply with the decision of the european court, it's us. now, let's say not about russia and the second an option is the international court, an organization of the united nations, but what are the nuances when we talk about the international court of the united nations e.e. in relation to a specific case, the parties must agree that they will make such a decision. are related to the snake island around the variable when there was a dispute between ukraine and romania, but also ukraine and romania before the decision was made essentially decided
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and recognized that they are this decision fully recognized here to talk about something similar well, we ourselves are perfectly fine we understand everything and see the tragedy of this situation. actually, no one can influence it now, but this court can impose some kind of compensation, and there may be hope that one day russia will pay for this with its health. yes, what about this ? well, you know i well, i will give another example, yes, at one time, there were problems here related to the fact that the data was classified, and there were references to the presence of bank secrecy in the city of swiss banks, and because of this, the relatives of those persons' heirs who died as a result during the genocide, they could not get these funds and at the interest rates that were there for more than 40 years at that time . and these were huge sums. yes, they could be collected,
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but in the end, settlements were reached with a number of banks, including these banks. he paid such, well, large enough sums, not huge enough in order not to be big, but just a huge dream, that's why, at this stage, what is very important is the fixation of these things with the help of internationally recognized institutions, mr. oleksandr, did the enemy bring because the only thing i will say is that the same well, we see even now, when in cambodia, a special tribunal has also been created, which is connected with what was carried out, well, in fact, the genocide of the local population, and the person who actually killed them at that time is also being prosecuted was tangential to the regime of the red makmer, so well, in any case, this fact of fixation is of great importance, no. well
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, so to speak, the payback of a supporter, or to the members of the pol-pot regime, or to some other regimes, alas , the milosevic regime. well, this is an understandable procedure, but so to speak, we all still have to live and implement our victory scenario as soon as possible. and what concerns, for example, the so-called international so -called observers at the russian lying theatrical performances, which for some reason they call a referendum, that is, is there a chance to influence those people and punish them for what they take participation in the criminal proceedings of the russian federation because some of them will turn out to be citizens of the european union or our neighbors from europe, but which, for example, are not part of the european union the problem is that it will most likely not be possible to bring them to justice. why, because all the international institutions globally, which we talked about with you,
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yes, they are connected with and are primarily aimed at activities related to so-called crimes er, humanitarian crimes against humanity are directly, in fact, a certain influence is mediated, and here the only thing that can really have an influence is the presence of the establishment of sanctions, just sanctions against these persons on the national economic e p oleksandr, there is one or another scoundrel who commits a criminal offense on the territory of ukraine , he killed someone there, raped, robbed, or something else, here we see a crime no less, it is an encroachment on the territorial sovereignty of ukraine, which is supra. look at the mass crimes against the civilian population, some citizen there.
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forgive me lord slovakia, well, citizenship with a passport of this country comes to the support of all those procedures, so to speak, so we can, so to speak, turn to the government of this country a state that is pro-ukrainian in its essence and its citizen still participates in crimes against us, the question here is at what point can we really demand extradition why because if, for example, criminal proceedings are initiated under the articles provided for in the criminal code because according to the criminal code e-e if the crime is committed on the territory of independent ukraine, then the horse is committed, it is considered to have been committed on the territory of ukraine, which means that the jurisdiction of the ukrainian state extends to this territory, another matter as within the limits of the legislation of other countries that exist with these states and ukraine is bilateral because it is regulated by bilateral treaties and have the osi
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agreed , for example, on extradition. accordingly , there was no agreement with the united states of america. therefore, you know, you have to look at it because , in principle, the practice of most states is related to not extraditing criminals, especially such a category well, there are crimes, but there are states that do not at all have such a majority practice, and which do not even constitute exceptions, that is, they are, under any circumstances, citizens of their state, where not only citizens of their state, but people who are on the territory of this state they will not issue well , in principle, oleksandr, please explain how you see what will happen next with these pseudo-referendums , their results, how events will develop, can ukraine somehow influence this, well , there are currently no legal instruments to influence
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there we can really make some decisions there at the level of the supreme court. well, but as for the real consequences, as if they were our real ones, and this is not the president , why this was done, the problem is clear in order to blackmail ukraine and russia , because the nuclear doctrine of the russian federation, it foresees several points why nuclear weapons can be used, one of them is if an attack is carried out on the territory of the russian federation . take the appropriate actions. the main thing is to be honest. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for your frankness on the live
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broadcast . of the so-called referendums in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine to join them, this will mean the closure of any negotiations with moscow , iryna koval will tell more information, news right now on espresso-ir, we congratulate you, thank you, colleagues, for all the relevant information at this time literally in a moment in ukraine at 15:00 news time on the espresso vita tv channel

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