otherwise, the world may be on the brink of a nuclear disaster, this is of course a matter for us, but also for our allies who have the appropriate forces and means to think about such scenarios. but putin er offers himself and in fact as an object for destruction because a person who er goes to such or er he will not be called a terrorist otherwise minister of foreign affairs of poland zbrigny rau in an interview with the nbc news channel said that nato's response to russia's possible use of nuclear weapons in ukraine should be destructive well, the same position is taken by other non-nato members of the country and the united states of america said that they privately warned

the leadership of the russian federation about the inadmissibility of using nuclear weapons as mr. volodymyr. this usually happens these are private warnings despite the fact that, for the last 7 months, both russian diplomacy and american diplomacy have been, well, let's say, in the negotiation process, it's not about negotiations here, it's about conveying information. it usually happens very simply, the person is sent conditionally, or the president is summoned to the relevant department, or to the derdev, or to some special service, and they just hand over a sheet of white paper on which something is written, it’s a note, it’s not on some aviation document canon paper, so-called. that is , it’s well a kind of note, but in which it is clear that

if you do this, the answer will be like this, like this, like this, that's why we are very serious to you. we advise you not to do such things, and it is passed from hand to hand unofficially but we all understand what it is about it is meant to reinforce such moments, so to speak, er, well, sometimes they use er, personal meetings. well, for example, lavrov was there in new york, er, i don't know, i don't have any information, why they personally proved the same er, they gave the same a piece of paper in your hands, whether someone met with him there or not, but this budget is also not possible, that is, there are simply different channels, there are channels through, they performed through the diplomatic service, but one way or another, they work, they can even be

in parallel for in order to be sure the information has been reported, that's why i think that other countries do the same, and not only let's say in the country where they are located, that is, i mean in ukraine, but it could be the ambassadors of the country in moscow, who are also quietly quiet in private they convey this information to the relevant structures , that is, the mechanisms always remain, this is not a negotiation process, it is to some e-e contacts at some level there, it is simply an e-e instruction of the center to convey this leader to the american service to the attention of lavrov or his deputy or the leader there services from the otaku jacket , that information is appropriately

brought to the proper source, so i think that these channels have already been used, the last remaining ones are the so -called red telephone, which is a direct line of communication between the presidents well, it's already five seconds before the apocalypse. that is, it's already the last hope, so to speak, to stop something. such information eh it is really about putin's serious mental problems, and that's why it is possible that he should not even be the final recipient of information, but people who are able to influence the situation without him, friends, we work live

on the espresso tv channel and also in our social networks on youtube and facebook, please like this video if you are watching us live now, subscribe to our channels on social networks well, remember that uh, on youtube we have such a small button called uh sponsor you can click and support our youtube channel, your support is quite important for us against the background of these threats that are now coming from the mouths of putin and medvedev and other high-ranking officials of russia. of the baltic sea, and this happened for the fourth time through which russian natural gas was supplied to the european union by this pipeline, and earlier data and sweden reported gas leaks from these two

pipelines, nord stream one and nord stream two after warning the authorities about the possibility of sabotage, cnn today reports that russian submarines were spotted in the area of ​​the diversion on the northern stream , experts are convinced that the disconnection, but the gas bypass was disabled by a series of underground explosions that led to the gas leak, well , that is, we are still seeing the unfolding of this whole story around the confrontation between russia and the european union, and reuters , with reference to european union officials, says that the diversion of the northern stream 1.2 radically changes the nature of the conflict in to ukraine eh what what does this mean that eh in the west it is assumed that these sabotages were arranged by the russians and this is also one of the elements from this hybrid war that vladimir putin

likes hungary i think that this is a continuation of this thesis of ours about which we said that putin is going to a-bank, that is, he is already using all his levers of influence uh, well , until uh, until the last one, well, the last thing left is nuclear weapons uh, forget about uh, russian oil and gas it's suicide actually because uh when the oil and gas embargo finally works and when the prices of oil and gas from russia are uh frozen and when he can't get half of his uh budget then it will really mean the collapse of the

russian economy economists are preparing it for the beginning of next year, spring, beginning of summer , that is, when the economy will begin not just to falter, but to fall. well, he does not understand this. he believes that with such harsh forms of pressure, he can change the moods of those same europeans politicians, interestingly, there is such a thing, you know, the press secretary of the ministry of propaganda of the russian federation, mrs. zakharova, for the last two days, she has been actively quoting what the americans said before the russian wide-scale invasion, and if this is a tangent, then definitely the nord stream 2 will never work, now she's putting it off and says, well, you see, at the same time, biden said that it would

work for me, so the americans did such a sabotage on uh, they're specially uh, they're doing it so that europe freezes from gas today she left even further saying that the armed forces of ukraine blew up a gas pipeline in the kherson region and asked a rhetorical question. and it doesn't remind you of anything, well, i mean, you understand in the eyes of all the creams and it's already reaching complete derangement, which can't be helped by anything uh, explain, no matter which way you look at it, it seems to me that this is really the last way to frighten the west. well, you see, nuclear weapons

. russia, well, about us, i'm not saying you, probably, too sergey and our viewers also read it, because it is the message of a girl who suggested going to mount chekovitsa, and if it’s fun to go through life anyway, well, it’s a joke, of course. that is, it is again, but it says that what is expected these scarecrows do not cause fear in ukrainians, that is, people understand the threat and i am very grateful to our city, they are healthy for the recommendations that it gives, now there should be recommendations from the nsdc and i i call on all our citizens to act on this very, very carefully, we are dealing with an inadequate

neighbor who can do anything, so we have to take this very, very seriously, but it does not create any chaos or panic in ukraine, because everyone understands that we still we will win and the armed forces of ukraine will drive this vert from our land, whether it will be called the russian federation or not, the russian federation is of no importance, this is our land, that's why i think that mr. serhiy is going here, if you take the general view, these are the last trump cards that putin is pulling out of all of these their own in the pockets of those trying to intimidate both in ukraine and in the west. well, we see that it does not work. i agree with you, mr. volodymyr, that ukrainians now perceive with irony what he says, what threats

are coming from the universities of the same putin or medvedev, and it is clear that when the war has been going on for 8 years and seven months of the great large-scale invasion, of course people are already trying to joke and save themselves with humor from this obsessed neighbor who is not quite healthy, and it is clear that this weapon with which they are threatened is the last weapon available in russia federation, which was not used in ukraine, because we know that phosphorous cluster munitions were also bombs, eh were used in ukraine, a weapon prohibited in the whole world, they tested it here and saw what the consequences would be and at the same time we see mobilization against the background of these threats which they call partial although it is not a partial but a full mobilization, and in the british ministry of defense they say that in the seven days since

president putin announced the partial mobilization, there has been a significant outflow of russians who they are trying to avoid a prize, although the exact numbers are unknown, they probably exceed the number of all forces deployed by russia for the invasion in february 2022, that is, more than 250,000. well, judging by the way british intelligence calculates and if you take the number of deployed forces of the russian federation on the borders with belarus and russia it is meant from their side, more than 250,000. we see these videos of endless queues of russians in georgia, we see them fleeing to ossetia, we see them fleeing to mongolia, as they say cockroaches are spreading all over the world in the following countries and different attitudes towards these people fleeing from mobilization, someone says they

should be given the status of some kind of refugees, but you have to look at it, says the united states of america, and on the other hand, some people say, well, that's good they are fleeing, there will be less on the russian-ukrainian front, what do you think hmmm, taking into account the fact that , after all, it is a war between russia and ukraine, and in this war there should still be collective responsibility , including those people who are fleeing from russia or it is fair that the event grants the status of refugees to ukrainians, ukrainian women, er, ukrainian elderly people, ukrainian children who are actually fleeing murder and rape on the territory of ukraine by russian soldiers and those who are fleeing conscription in russia are silent accomplices in these crimes, you know mr. serhiy , i er-e periodically watch er-e speaks er-e well, the so

-called er-e i repeat once again the so-called liberal channel rain er-e who is now in riga and crocodiles to tears how is it so er-e same itself latvia is there, there are other baltic countries. now here is finland, entry to the poor russians, how can you treat them like that? they are all different, so they were silent . moneyism. and when all these fsb archives are available, i think we will still read why some pseudo-liberal pseudo-journalists say so. and where is it written in the criminal code of the russian federation? that er means the absence of er of any kind of action er like this

people are scared, they sit in their homes , they are afraid to go out. can we condemn them for this? they are not to blame for what is happening . well, he repeats the same delusion that this is putin’s war, but ours provides everything. what is happening on these uh fronts and the like so on and so forth i think that uh hello those european leaders who speak clearly and clearly if you want to change your country then please change it at home if you don't like uh putin's regime, go to rallies, paralyze er a normal, quiet, calm life is very usual for you, yes, you can be put in prison, and

ukrainians could be put in prison, but in the meantime, they rose to several maidans when they understood that the government was doing absolutely unacceptable things - but you sit in the kitchens watching tv until recently, you were very happy when your thugs killed, raped and mocked ukrainians, and today it was your turn, when they suddenly became such great champions of democracy and freedom and such other, but not all would be at home and escaping to a peaceful west by the way, recently there was one information that one of these ports that you are now showing after he visited and how he got out of there is now submitting documents for obtaining

this visa to germany and germany is considering. that is, it turns out that the murderer, the voltron, the looter , who managed to escape, here, in ukraine, is the punishment, as they once said in the throat , he will now feel great in germany , and also the german government will give him some preferences er as refugees, it's just in my head no not that's why you know i think that this country er should be punished punished by the fact that it should no longer exist on the political map of the world it is er this is the fourth reich only er- it is probably even tougher than the previous one about what is revealed every time after the liberation of one or another ukrainian city, it is absolutely no

different from what was done by the german nazis and fascists in the enslavement of europe and in that number by the way, in ukraine ago racism must be condemned cleanly, and the country that prescribed this racism must be punished, and the people who silently or not silently supported this racism must be punished in the same way, punish everyone, regardless of whether they participated in the murders. did they silently support those who went to this criminal war, in other words, mr. volodymyr, as far as i understood you, it is necessary to carry out the denazification and demilitarization

of the russian federation. one and the same the process itself, because these are, er, savages, er, inhumans, these are people who do not have the right to normal communication with others, because they live in a completely different world, in a world where murder is the norm, where starvation is the norm, where looting is the norm, where to come to a neighbor's house and kill civilians is the norm. that is, these are the people who cannot simply be allowed to communicate with the civilized world. they must first be punished , then educated for a long time. lived and live today outside the boundaries of those

values ​​that you and i are constantly talking about, because respect for human rights, respect for his family opinion, his right to choose, etc. this is a different world, we can not live with such a world anymore. on the topic of victory, for me it is really a question of only the liberation of the ukrainian land and the fact that we will leave these mentally affected people to continue to live in the same way . will recover and will threaten everyone else again . that is, we need to think now about what victory is for the civilized world, in my opinion, it is the destruction of this country as such , it has no right to exist with these postulates that lie at its foundation, mr. volodymyr, in this

process the destruction of the state, how important is self- destruction from within the russian federation, what i am talking about is how the protests are now covering certain regions, well, it is in the caucasus, there is dagestan, and it is clear that the teams for bulgaria and certain regions which are protesting against the general mobilization, i am not saying partial general mobilization, it is clear that there may not be so many of these protesters on the scale of the entire federation, or it may not be the same caucasus that detonates and becomes that spark that will fall into a barrel with large fuel or oil there, i don't know, just this barrel will fly up in the air, when i talk about destruction, i don't mean

moskvich, or some other russian city, i mean bringing its economy to the point where the economy is just uh will cease to exist and will not be able to give the opportunity to feed this wild population, this is when the economic collapse occurs and when the chains no longer work. they are a huge country in terms of territory, and this means that the economic collapse will quickly will also mean political and this is exactly what i am talking about when i talk about the fact that this country has no right to exist and we must destroy it. we must bring its economy to this truly miserable state, and that is how the things that you, mr. serhiu, are talking about will begin

absolutely one hundred percent and here we have different forecasts, each territory that becomes economically unsubordinated to the center, let's say, it begins to settle down and live according to its own laws according to the laws of the economy itself, which dictates what should be done, who should be friends with with whom we need to cooperate and such and such and such and so and so and so and so when the economic collapse will be almost an achievement when the political and will begin to protest, including on a national basis, and we know that there are more than enough such examples, although this is not and will not be

the main thing. in my opinion, the economy will be the catalyst to wash away all such things. then, what do you say? -a little spark, she will be able to blow up this whole rotten system, at the same time, we can't predict when it will happen, but with the stubbornness with which the path to her iceberg gives me at least that er, i still have little hope that the process of this self-disintegration of russia it is not far from the federation, and it is clear that the key element of everything will be economic sanctions, their strengthening, and their application in such a way that this under-economics cannot rise to the norm, mr. volodymyr, at the end of our

program, i will ask a very short question . i hope for an equally short answer, or remains for putin, there is still some gap in order to get out of this stalemate and this swang when each of his next actions well, he just worsens the situation in the world, he is what he is doing and got away from the occupied territories, but this is theoretical, but practically. no, because he will never be able to do such a thing personally, and this is exactly what he is doing , including this country. well, if he gets out of ukraine and opens himself up to the world, he certainly will not be able to withstand the obvious the situation inside russia, because hundreds of thousands of people were injured in the russian-ukrainian war, and therefore everyone will

have an absolutely logical question from their relatives . wounded, but let's not forget about more than 50,000 dead and no ladas. in the end , the sons of the men's brothers will not be replaced, and this is also the material that will explode one way or another. so there will be not only national or there will be an economic revolution, an emotional revolution. when, after all, even this biomaterial, which has been frozen for decades, will finally understand that it does not want to be this biomaterial. and at least one day we will have hope for a normal life, let's hope

for it, mr. volodymyr. thank you for the conversation. thank you and i wish you all the best. this was volodymyr hryshko, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009, a politician and a diplomat, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, so please those who watch us on social networks, like this video, subscribe to our channels on social networks, we is almost everywhere on youtube on facebook on twitter on telegram on instagram in a word everywhere everywhere everywhere because subscribe us it is important to have support from you on youtube you see that a new feature has appeared it's called channel sponsoring er youtube channel you can make a small donation and er donate some small amount to support our channel is very important to us this is

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