i.e., this was reported to the management by the head of the editorial office, nataliya saleska, regarding a possible appeal against such a court decision. however, journalists still believe that it is too soft for a person who beat and took video recordings from ukrainian journalists. this is the story of vat in general. well, i expected that mr. you next if nowhere then please, okay, i am interested in the budget for next year, this was announced and i am sitting waiting now because, well, actually, mr. dmytro, you have to say about this, so the state budget draft is necessary finalization of e-e p dmytro please tell me how you currently assess how you see in general the work of the relevant e-e institutions of the branches of government in our country on the main estimate for next year, taking into account what is planned for absolutely objective reasons in 2022 this year we will not

be able to fulfill it, we can talk about it as a fait accompli, it means that we will go into the new budget, well, let's say from zero , if with it, negative positions, thanks to our international partners, we manage to patch certain holes, but from rational balanced and reasonable actions of the ukrainian government and the parliament also depend a lot. what do you think of the proposals that are being heard now? well, in fact, the budget will be difficult, we all must understand that, and there are also objective and subjective circumstances, if we are talking about the budget, then in fact the budget deficit will be 50%, there the ministry of finance is trying to manipulate by talking about 20% of gdp, but i was also taught in the institute and at school what a deficit is, this is your income, your expenditure, yes, our income is about 1:27 trillion hryvnias.

e-e expenses are more than two and a half, and in fact the budget deficit will now amount to 50.9%. well, for understanding, on the other hand, we understand that we are in a state of war, and today the key expenditures should go to the army, armaments, to protect our territories, and the budget actually provides one and one trillion hryvnias for the security and defense sector, 850 goes to the army about five hundred goes directly to the provision of our military veterans, etc., but unfortunately today there are also those articles that attention is not enough, in my opinion, first of all, you know that there is an unforeseen indexation of pensions for next year, now there are talks about the fact that we will revise the results of the first quarter, but you correctly noted the

drop in our economy, there is a splash of 30%. the deficit for the next year is set at 30%. 30% it's not a deficit . excuse the inflation of 30%. uh, you all go to the shops, see the prices on the shelves and understand how much it affects the wallet . previously we could help pensioners and elderly people , today it will be quite difficult to do so and the state must take on these obligations. for example, we will submit appropriate amendments to the budget and insist that they be taken into account . everyone complains about the fact that our budgets are not filled, in order for it to be filled , we must not only count on the fact that we will receive loans and the game from abroad, first of all,

loans are 98%, and uh, start to restore for this, it is necessary to start lending to the ukrainian economy, for this, it is necessary on preferential terms, for this, it is necessary to create stimulating programs, especially for those regions that are today freed from occupation, where the russians were destroyed and expelled, e. budget, that is, very important things that 100% need to be done . some other pie in our country from some other country and stick it where you are now remarking, in your opinion, from which i do not know the sectors of our economy from er, which are actually

our ukrainian realities in our plane, we will now take money to throw at it everything yes yes answers well, first of all, we started with the fact that 50% of our budget will be external borrowings and from them we should also carry out such credit stimulating programs so that, you know, people have not only fish, but also bees there was still a fishing rod how can they catch it in the future and at the same time create jobs, fix people in the territories, fill the local and state budgets, these are steps for the future. we have preferential conditions under 2% for gambling provided by the current legislation, for example, 87 million hryvnias are provided in the draft

budget for the 23rd year, 87 m hryvnias in order to ensure the regulation of demand please. this is really a priority program today to help gambling companies regulate them, or should it be focused on supporting business and the underprivileged ? i think that for me and for you and for those who are watching us today - the answer is absolutely obvious, that's why if i search, i really understand the budget is not easy, but if i search and set a goal to really balance it and make it high-quality , then it can be done mr. dmytro, returning to pensions and social security guarantees, deputy minister of social policy vitaliy muzychenko stated that the priority direction of the budget is the social sphere, they are going to allocate more than

800 billion hryvnias for this purpose, this figure includes social assistance, subsidies, pension payments and indexation of pensions, but regarding the specifics, the annual indexation of pensions will take place, he said, from 1 in march, we plan to carry out the appropriate indexation, you said about this, taking into account the growth of inflationary processes, and in the draft budget for the next year, expenses for everything are laid down as for raising the subsistence minimum, according to the deputy minister, next year it will be revised at a slow pace, but its growth is only 5.4%, that is, inflation in our country is +30 and the minimum is only 5.4 in general, what will the indexation of the pension be now ? at the moment, i really like this number, 2027 hryvnias , the minimum pension is that now, the draft budget for next year. someone is writing. we will have so much in march, there will be 3,000 there, in june there will be 5,000 there, in december there will be 6,000 hryvnias. unfortunately, no. we are talking about it you are talking in the same way that the

minimum wage does not increase as the living wage does not increase, because a-a talk about march 1 and talk about a mythical number that it will somehow be set, i am used to the fact that if it is set, it should be today it is written because otherwise it looks like buying a cat in a bag this is absolutely wrong analogous approach plus you are absolutely right about inflation about other things but let's also look at the dollar exchange rate if in uh 22 to year, they don't show us on the exchangers, well, it 's not even funny, yes, this is the position, if i don't see a problem, then there isn't one, but even in the budget they wrote that, uh, the average gunpowder exchange rate is 42.2 and two hryvnias, although objectively on on the black market it is already like this, and at the end of the year it

is about 50 hryvnias, and we are only talking about the official exchange rate, what it will be on the black market and how it will be directly reflected on these oil boilers for services. we all understand the same thing well with you as well as today, if i'm not mistaken, the president yesterday he signed the law on the return of excise duty on fuel, and this directly affects the price of gasoline, diesel, and gas at our and your gas stations, but it not only affects how many kilometers we can drive for uah 100, but it will directly affect we consume all goods and services with you in the store in the market for business for many other industries in which the price of fuel has always been a large part of the cost price, so there must be a strategy,

you know, we are talking about the first of march there should be a strategy for the first of march and for the first of july and for the first of september, how will we move because correctly setting the task is half the success and now they can't even formulate it what is the task the state sets for itself on march 1 well you would talk about the distribution of geoclades at the beginning of our broadcast. unfortunately, today, in direct text, some ministers say that they will not take into account the proposals of the deputies, although for the most part the proposals of the deputies are well-founded and precisely a large part of the people, not all the deputies, but a large part of the people's elected officials work with the people and understand on the ground what actually needs to be done and where it should be sent, unlike the ministers, mr. dmytro, and very briefly, finally, the pseudo-referendums on the recognition

of the ukrainian territories as russian territories, and where did these pseudo-referendums take place -referendums and nuclear blackmail of vladimir putin what do you think all this is about or is the degree of tension really rising? to prepare for any development of events about this and i and my colleagues appealed to politicians, they said until february 24, unfortunately, they didn't hear us and got what they got, but in relation to the procedure, it's a 100% rate increase. and such referendums are not recognized by any adequate and democratic countries in the world, but putin and his entourage will use it for internal consumption in

order to somehow explain society to the russians , the mobilization, the mobilization that they call happening in russia. one a step towards deepening the conflict, they will go hmm further, you see, they don’t do it with northern streams and uh, they begin to hit europe economically in order for europe to uh, uh, reduce its pressure on russia and thus, uh, reduce the undermining of ukraine, now it is necessary to pay very serious attention to our international politics so that these plans of the kremlin are not implemented, mr. for example, dmitry, well , the question is whether we have a plan for how to react, but tomorrow they will bring a joint meeting of the two chambers of the russian parliament there. putin will announce about the annexation of the new occupied territories will say that zaporizhzhia must also be liberated, odesa,

mykolaiv, there are others, well, their fantasies are intimate, but we have a plan for how to react, because we are waiting like this while we are in the russian scenario. it seems to me that we are acting, we do not have our own scenario of our own actions, we play second fiddle, unfortunately, it does not seem to you that well, today i am not a member of the national security council, first of all, the national security council should be engaged in the work and we are working on such a plan . agenda and we follow it and here we don't need to follow the principle how will we react when they hold a meeting of their two chambers we must work to stay ahead we must create our narrative and spread it around the world unfortunately looking at what is happening today. it seems to me that such a strategy, to put it mildly , was not fully worked out. thank you, mr.

dmytro, for including your thoughts. dmytro razumkov, people's deputy of ukraine, was in touch with us . the events in the grand kremlin palace that will take place tomorrow and it will supposedly be the signing ceremony of the agreements on the accession of new territories to the russian federation, eh, a comprehensive speech by vladimir putin, all this at 3 p.m., and we are in touch with andrii sukharyna, political analyst of the democratic initiatives of ilka foundation and oleksandr kraev, expert of the council of foreign policy of ukraine prisma, congratulations to andria, congratulations to oleksandr, glory to ukraine, dear experts well, let's start first. how do you evaluate the content of these men who wrote the day before to the russian tsar, the gauleiter of the ukrainian occupied territories. well, we have already talked about the fact that the balance , in particular, writes here that the people of the kherson region feel that they are

equal members of the world community. documents as far as you are here and about me, my word is deviation, beloved people, the people of the kherson region decided to become a part of the multinational e-e people, in which everyone is equal before each other and in the forefront a law that expresses not semi-minute desires and deviations but unyielding values, i ask andrei, it is difficult to comment on this document, it is difficult for a person who tries to look at it soberly to perceive it, a completely propagandistic pasulka that is distributed in the russian information field itself . it is clear that each of us it cannot appear to any of us to be anything adequate , but for quite some time in the russian information

space there is a sufficiently large part of people who believe about some prepared people ukraine, which is experiencing and suffering from the nazi government in kyiv and wants to unite with great russia, obviously this has nothing to do with reality , but russia has its own reality in which they live and it is not collapsing as quickly as we would like. thank you, oleksandr, for your opinion, after this tomorrow's pseudo-joining, how will the purely military situation in the respective territories change, and will it actually change? it is obvious that the russians hoped for a radical change in circumstances, because we remember that they connected these referendums under their nuclear blackmail that allegedly at the moment when this territory allegedly becomes russia, no ukrainian soldier will

be able to cross their border, no one will attack and so on and so on, because there is an important document allegedly operating here, an allegedly operating nuclear doctrine the russian federation, but the russians themselves have already spoiled their nuclear doctrine with their inactivity, because let's remember that they referred to it even during the first strikes on the crimean airfield. and what if we destroyed almost the entire aviation fleet of the black sea fleet the russian federation and no nuclear apocalypse have occurred, but let's remember that in the doctrine of the nuclear doctrine ref that any type of attack on the territory of the russian federation, if it is sufficiently threatening from a military point of view or threatens the existence of the russian state from a political point of view, it will be perceived as a sufficient reason for the unilateral use of nuclear weapons that is, in fact, the russians themselves have brought the situation to such a state that their nuclear doctrine is no longer effective, that's what they are. according to the logic of international relations, they can no longer

retreat, there is no step back in this, and that is why they are in such a hurry to secure these borders or, accordingly, their blackmail is informational. well, it had some kind of documentary political basis, now the question is . writes that president volodymyr zelenskyy is calling an urgent meeting of the national security and defense council of ukraine for tomorrow, the agenda and other details will be communicated later immediately about this hot news we discussed it, what should be the agenda of tomorrow's meeting of the nsdc and what is ukraine's reaction to the obviously logical tomorrow 's expected decision on the accession of the so-called occupied territories of the so-called these regions through the public as they call them there partly in the region partly united what should be our reaction, well, let me remind you that within the limits of the entire territory of the

regions, including the regional center of zaporizhzhia, slavic kramatorsk, god forbid, and other cities, well, again, this is just an intimate fantasy russian andriy, please, the obvious is that these documents are legally worthless and have nothing to do with any normative legal acts that can be recognized, and i think that this is exactly what will happen in principle at a meeting of the national security council, where it will be announced that ukraine will not and is not going to recognize the worthless decisions of these pseudo-referendums and will continue the struggle will continue military operations until the complete liberation of these territories, again here is the connection with this conditional inclusion territory and nuclear blackmail, it is calculated not only and not so much on ukraine. ukraine, on its part, can only do a part, and we are, in principle, the

government. i hope he will make it clear that this is all worthless . how should other nuclear states react, including those that have signed the budapest memorandum and that are trying to fulfill their obligations without, of course, talking about russia in fact and when non -nuclear countries threaten with nuclear weapons the use of cities in relation to it already has guarantors in this regard to get involved and give their direct actions and activities, therefore, only part of it depends on us, on the ukrainian authorities, on the ukrainian armed forces, respectively, and we need, first of all, to achieve a clear reaction and a clear understanding of what the consequences will be for

russia in the event that these lands are declared part of russia and in russia god forbid the use of nuclear weapons, again this is already the prerogative of the states and we must get a clear answer from them and clear instructions on what will happen because we don't have enough words and arguments that there will be catastrophic consequences for russia, catastrophic consequences - this is so far, nothing about this without specifics, we need specifics that will include, including conventional or non-conventional reaction to attempts to use nuclear weapons or other blackmail from russia well, so far there are signals that the response to the use of tactical nuclear weapons by russia is permissible on the battlefield, and it will still be the use of conventional means and strikes on the territory of russia, probably federation, as far as i understood, in any case, this

cannot be called an equal response, i would not like to get involved in this or any other conflict in general to the threat of the existence of dough on the planet, but be aware that the russian federation can, i'm sorry, be nuclear large and small warheads where as much as she wants, the educational one doesn’t do anything either. i personally find it extremely unpleasant, mr. oleksandr, here we just need to remember and look at a few more factors that, in principle, tell us that nato’s conventional response can do not limit yourself well, first of all, let's remember that nato's response does not begin from the moment of the use of nuclear weapons, nato's response, according to their own strategic documents , begins from the moment when the first reports that such weapons are being prepared for use are received, that is, relatively speaking, if it is a tactical nuclear weapon from that moment as soon as it is opened warehouses and the corresponding warheads begin their movement towards the army in the case of strategic weapons when signals are received that are being prepared, respectively, mine or sea

basing weapons, and in this case we will recall the words of one of the former generals and the command of nato forces in europe, we will recall that he spoke of two scenarios that nato has in accordance with the times of the cold war. at that time, two types of response were foreseen. accordingly, stopping any activity related to the supply of nuclear warheads to the military, and the second option is a nuclear tactical strike on this particular warehouse to completely stop what is happening there therefore, in fact, against this background, we will recall the interview of ms. feldguzyn, the german ambassador to ukraine, who said that we in nato have already completely switched to the strategies that we used in the cold war, and in the cold war we did not play with such concepts as a nuclear strike, no one expected the first strike because let's not forget that in the doctrine of the united states, in the doctrine of great britain, france, there is no such thing as a limited

nuclear conflict or a limited nuclear war, this is a concept that is inherent only to the russian doctrine for all western doctrines, the first launch of nuclear weapons - this is essentially the beginning of the countdown, the question is, after that, what kind of conversations can there be if nuclear weapons are already used? well, then we are rolling into the abyss. so we are going to the point where one of the parties must be either destroyed or forced to surrender, and in fact, it seems to me that the west is already switched to these lines and i will quote an american colleague here. he said that if you did not see the words us nuclear weapons in biden's speech, this does not mean that these words were not there. the russian dictator putin will order the use of nuclear weapons against ukraine, the united states will consider this as a large-scale attack on nato, the politician said this while speaking at a meeting entitled from nuremberg to ukraine, responsibility for war crimes and crimes against humanity, rem

noted that radiation in the event of such an attack will affect not only for ukraine, but also for the whole of europe, e.p. andriy well, really, there is no clear warning, warning, uh, the reaction will depend on the level of use of your nuclear weapons. what did the american actually say the president officially publicly, well, it’s not what we expected, that is, there should be some kind of warning. it seems to me that it’s more acute, because this speech by biden reminded me of his speech on the eve of the russian invasion of ukraine for someone there on february 20 or 22, well, at least my personal impression. and you what are you waiting for, what kind of warnings and warnings from the americans and the british and other members of the north atlantic bloc, maybe china, from india, from other major countries of the world, please, yes, of course, there is a public level where on at the public level, biden and other first persons declared that there is a non-public level, and the united states talked about the fact that they had not publicly for a long time

warned the russian leadership about the consequences of using nuclear weapons in the framework of this war, but we do not know what was in these non-public statements , and it is clear that the ukrainian on the other hand, if we have the confidence that these non-public statements were really tough enough and they carry more than words, then it would be possible to feel a little more comfortable. and if it is possible at all to use this word within the framework of the war, accordingly , that is why we are in such a state of uncertainty , i probably disagree with my colleague a little here in terms of warnings from everyone there or the lack of such warnings why because after all, this is the level of the state leadership, sanatoriums , congress, me, ministers other people can

give their positions, and the generals can say even more, but they are not the main people who will make the final decision, and that is why it is very important to hear such warnings to hear the position, an adequate position, precisely from the first persons, from mr. biden, from panitras and from other countries that are members, including the un security council , thank you, and i would still like to receive at least a comment on a rather sensitive topic, when you know there are such moments when you are first wow happy and then you are like oh everything is not so pleasant and it concerns the last package of military aid for us from the united states on the one hand this package is really different from any previous ones because it seems to indicate

the fact that the usa is switching to a different format, they are no longer getting it from their warehouses, but they are, in fact , starting their own internal production, and this is such a long-term game. but together with them , we realize that this will delay what we need. the same heimers under two dozen, let me remind you that we should have them, but it probably won't be soon, so the situation looks a little optimistic on the positive side, but we have difficulties in the near future, oleksandr, how can we reduce this gap? in your opinion , we were promised 18 heimers, and you all rejoiced, and then it turned out that they would reach us over the course of several years, and everyone became so sad right away. well, in fact, what can we do, we have to support that the format that was based

on the last fifth meeting of rammstein . well, let's talk in business terms once, only what kind of weapons should be provided to ukraine, because we can do it in the political and diplomatic terms , first of all, activate it. it is this business economic format to move from just political statements that ukraine is good, ukraine is for democracy and go to statements - type a how do we make conditional chimeras produced faster how do we redistribute our factory capacity between there conditionally canada its united states united kingdom and france that is continue this track, insist on this track and work out appropriate scenarios for them, because the americans currently work with us as equals, there is no such thing as what they say. well, you need it, we receive a constant request, we know

that relevant groups are working in the ministry of foreign affairs and defense units form requests, they work through these requests and send them directly to the americans. that is, we need to work better with these requests precisely to the rammstein format, this is the second , relatively speaking. opinion, will the amount of american military aid for us increase after the pseudo-referendums and that tomorrow's possible accession? i think that, after all, it is usually connected with some specific aid to some important events that happen to us and to remind that there are two types of aid , as it was announced yesterday, it is a long urgent when it is ordered weapons but there are not yet used in relation to the emergency aid that is provided from warehouses it is not yet completely used up money