that even a limited strike with tactical nuclear weapons will 99% lead to a situation in which strategic nuclear weapons will eventually be used. that is, this is a pandora's box that will actually be opened if only small tactical nuclear weapons are used on our territory anywhere, i have a question about the next plan what steps do you think are being taken by the international community and are these steps sufficient ? answers and including representatives of the highest general of the united states of america that there could be a strike of a high-precision non-nuclear weapon on the sites of defeat of the combat forces of the russian federation of the black sea fleet and so on, what should be the answer and what could be the assessment as a deterrent for president putin, no use of nuclear weapons at all, thank you, well, considering putin’s behavior, it is

difficult for us to predict, uh, before this, what decisions will be taken by this person if to talk about the past, of course, if in 2008 we were not betrayed by those who betrayed us and they would have given us a pdc, as for the membership of donata, it may be that you and i had a completely different situation today, but it already happened . how did it happen? - this is our rule of the constitution, which i am more than sure that no one will be able to remove from there sooner or later we will be members of the alliance and accordingly we will be under the protection of this, let's say, umbrella, we will be under the protection of those countries that are absolutely responsible for what concerns the use of even tactical nuclear weapons, i can predict what will happen in the world then. the so-called dirty nuclear bomb, then a huge number of countries may appear in the near future, which the civilized world will not allow under any circumstances and they will do

everything depending on them in order for this not to happen, as far as what you say is strategic nuclear weapons, it will generally come from beyond the limits of some, let's say, so he understands, and then already the reaction of the world and then, in general, all the processes in the world that will happen, they can get out of control, i understand for sure that this is not the case. who cannot allow putin to do this? i want to say now that those arsenals of nuclear weapons that russia has, they are, first of all, dangerous and directly for russia itself, because the state of these arsenals is it can be extremely extremely dangerous for those who will only press that button, because it can be there and stay there, but in a completely higher form , and when putin was talking about something there, he was afraid that there would be some kind of wind rose where will i return? i want to remind you that it can stay there and that mind can stay in those cities where today this nuclear weapon is located on the territory of the russian federation, writes documents about the

inclusion of the captured territories of ukraine into the russian federation and where the occupiers previously held these pseudo-referendums and the mass media already mention the name of the alleged leaders of these territories , we have already seen this photo of these i don't know who to name, who came to russia so that the representatives of these territories recognized them, it's strange they looked these men now we can see them in the next window, what will be ukraine's reaction to all this if tomorrow well, there will be some kind of official announcement from the russian federation well, let me open the curtain on this matter, the president will er-er convene a meeting of the national defense security council if there will, god forbid, make these or other decisions, the response of our country will be instantaneous, the only thing i

would like to emphasize is that you and i use the phrase referendum, but playing along in this way, colleagues, even so, pay attention there is a show made by the russian federation, and for some reason we have to call it the so-called or we call it in another way, we use this word, i want to remind everyone that only the central election commission of our country has the right to hold a plebiscite or a referendum on the territory of our country, period, the rest, we will say it all yes, people who have nothing to do with our country in general cannot carry out any actions on the territory of our country, it is forbidden by our constitution, it is forbidden by our legislation what they are doing it does not enter, as they say, no, it is not in kobzar, that 's how they were there, that's how wet it burns, as our ukrainians say, that's it for us, it has nothing to do with us , that show, what kind of show is it there, and there are these guys standing there, if you can have them there to name well, look at their faces, see what

they look like, what does it have to do with our country, please tell me where you see ukrainians there, show me at least one, well, they are citizens of another country of the russian federation, let's say, they all have russian passports and let's go there engages in anything. these are simply unacceptable things in a civilized world. well, can you imagine the mention of one or another country saying that we will hold a referendum on the territory of neighboring ukraine , and everyone must recognize these and these referendums, and that's how it will go. well, it's just theater theater absurd oleg synyutka oleksiy vyacheslavovich i think there is no doubt in our victory, just as there is no doubt that even if putin goes completely crazy and uses a tactical nuclear strike, it will simply accelerate his the end and there is no doubt about it but i think that today we should already talk about what we

unfortunately did not do yesterday and the day before yesterday and we must start doing today i mean the global security situation and ukraine's participation in nato because just like you is a supporter of ukraine's participation in nato , just as you said in the constitution, it clearly speaks about ukraine's participation in nato, but it is necessary not only to talk about it, but also to act . go not tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, but already today with concrete decisions and not only by the army where everything is clear, but by society and the state as a whole . the levels of our deputy corps. and then we will see how we will react to certain

things. of course, i would very much like nato to accept us in 2008. i have already said this several times. said but it happened as it happened, here we are on the other side . all subscribe we should have gone to great britain and not sent the deputy head of the president's office to madrid .

i am ready to vote on all decisions related to nato because 80% of ukrainians say that our place in the north atlantic defense alliance is draft decisions and let's vote and implement them. of the past, if we had started building our country since 1991, if we had used the chance we had in 2004, we would have had a completely different country, and you know it, they are the worst than me. it is a great pity today we have what we have. as the classic of our political existence said, believe me, we will be members of nato much sooner than anyone imagines, but a lot depends on us. we must understand that we must change, there must be a mature society, there must be a completely different country. because nato is not only a military alliance, it is, first of all, a philosophy - it is an ideology. so these are completely different things, but here we have certain gaps that we need to fix together in order for us to truly be a proud ukraine

proud of membership in nato proud of membership in the european union proud of the fact that we are that country and we definitely deserve it and you, but no one will do the homework instead of us, this is our joint work yuriy kovalchuk also has a question for you oleksii vyacheslavovych good evening good evening , everyone, two short questions. please tell me, the russians should probably worry about their obsolete tactical nuclear and other weapons, because they may not take off and, in addition, be somewhere else. it is possible even to stay on the territory on the way uh, from different possibilities, from our possibilities, maybe not ours, maybe so, i don’t know, the higher powers can help in some way, so to speak, and the second question, and it concerns the volynians, the volynians, the polissya, the volynians, can you cook banderosmuzi, or can you still

be calm, i understand, so what do you have everything must be ready. we live now in such a world that everything must be deliciously prepared. so, all the recipes are known to everyone, look, we must be ready for any development of events until the end of the war. we have an understanding that we we are in a complex and dangerous environment. so i am more than sure that the regions you mentioned are not the only ones and they are all ready. i am sure of this. oksana savchuk, people's deputy svoboda , also has questions from your speeches. in the spring, you talked about understanding all the situations that happened in kherson, and now i have a question in the context of the newly returned ukrainian territories by the armed forces, how

ready are we today to adequately carry out the work regarding the collaborators who remained today in the ukrainian lands that were liberated by the armed forces of ukraine and what we are doing eh does ukraine still take additional security measures for the special services in which we send there on special assignments, including the polygraph i want to note that when you use phrases i have to develop an understanding of what it's us together with you all together if we are a single family if we do all the work together if we don't do this division which unfortunately we have all the time let's say it happens like this then it happens it will be much faster, it will be much brighter . believe me, we will cope with the task that currently exists, as far as the collaborators are concerned. this whole situation is being worked out in all the liberated territories. this is an old story

. this is not a new story. in 1998, the russian federation made a huge landing on our territory after the kuchma elections, when yanukovych gained power in the donetsk region at that time in 1998, we remember after the elections in 1998-99, that's when there was the first such set. then there was a set in 2004. until now, they shone like locusts on our territory and remained, and until now they are still gnawing at the stumps of some modern figures and many others , let's say so, such things that we find, we find out. waiting for what they are doing today and making the appropriate decisions. today i can say that thanks to the work of our counterintelligence, believe me, we have done so much that probably in 30 years of independence, such work has not yet been done. but one more time

i emphasize our joint work with you. and one more clarifying question about the mobilization, well , as in ukraine it is called partial mobilization, in fact it is fully announced on the territory of the russian federation. some ghostly plans of vladimir putin, in your opinion, there is already an understanding of this what will this mobilization of the russian people end up with well, let's melt the accents first of all i can't be partial mobilization is like a partial pregnancy. this is simply impossible. the russian federation has announced the mobilization of its own population, not for defense, but for an attack on our country. these are completely different things, but what makes it different, what makes us different from the russians, this is our spirit our

ukrainian community, which is in our territory, in our environment, it is one hundred percent different from what is in the territory of the russian federation, in the territory of the russian federation . of the volunteer movement there, all of this simply, well, it cannot be there because it is absolutely not natural there, as for today, er, mobilization in the territory of the russian federation, i can tell you the following thing, the vast majority of those mobilized there today - these are the representatives of his education. well, it so happened that they were born on the territory of the russian federation, especially in tatarstan, especially in dagestan . today we have certain statistics from which regions in the end they recruit them sooner or later it will end as a complete disaster for the russian federation

, we just have to wait a little longer. believe me, as soon as they start receiving coffins from our territory, they will already have died, here are those who died not those who were conditional contract workers until now, but these people who were called directly by putin to supposedly protect russia from whom to protect , it is unclear because we did not even attack on the territory, we are on the territory of our country we are defending our ukraine and they are the attackers and all that you see today, believe me, we have such, let's say, the video is much more interesting than what you have, and we are aware that this entire army of the russian federation will remain either there, or it will not get here, or they will disposed of as it is done impeccably by our armed forces of our country, for which we are very grateful to the network, we will definitely spread them as tv channels, how does the great lviv work, there are there there are

such videos that it is even embarrassing to show even to my husband, how many have i seen in my life, but yes, yes, ours is still some kind of environmentalism in that we show how we react to it, which is completely different from our neighbors, whom we did not choose, and as you said , this is true, one more question, after all, experts say that these actions of putin and the russian federation in particular, the announcement of this mobilization, hmm, the seizure of the territory and the holding of referendums there, nuclear threats, nuclear weapons, and this is all about the fact that he simply raises the stakes and thus wants to incline us to try to incline us to possible negotiations on some conditions the conditions under which we, as a state, would be ready to sit down at the negotiating table with the russian federation, returning to the previous one, i wanted to

comment on the fact that we have a completely different upbringing and we are absolutely polite to other people and even if they are non-human they are captured, we treated them with absolute understanding, because in all the conventions that exist on the territory of the civilized world, what concerns the negotiations of the khmelnytskyi federation, i said that we can negotiate with them about the return to us of the damage they caused in the russian federation and other negotiations, i have not yet seen any method at all . crimea to our last square meter. this is the first situation that we have to talk to you about. if there

are no negotiations, there will be no mining. or will these negotiations be carried out by our armed forces? from morning to evening, 24 hours a day, these are the negotiations they are conducting with the russians using our weapons, the weapons of our partners. that's what happens, then they come to them and other negotiations. i don't understand what to talk about with them at all, but the bullet talks are much brighter than what negotiations behind some incomprehensible tables there, and another matter, shells from the heimers speak even more brightly and eloquently with the enemies, one more question, mr. oleksiy. last week, hundreds of ukrainians were released prisoners of war, in particular, there were its commanders who defended them, they remained according to the terms of this release, they must be subject to the extraction procedure, that is, they must be located until the end of hostilities on

the territory of turkey, what is known now where they are, how many, who is there and whether there is a connection under what conditions they are now the commanders who were supposed to be in turkey, there is a connection with them, they are in much better conditions than they were in the territory of the russian federation, but i do not comment on the situation related to the exchange, these are very sensitive things you know that there are still our citizens in the territory of the russian federation, and that is why i do not want to comment on all these things for today. located on the territory of the russian federation, so that they all return home, this is our task, this is our duty, and we will

certainly do it. that these are people, they deserve to be alive. so they should be at home. this is true. thank you. in fact, if our guests in the studio have no more questions, we will not delay you either. you told us a lot, and this is evidenced by the views of our on the air, which grew during your answers, it is clear that people are interested in hearing what representatives of the authorities say, in particular , oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, will meet tomorrow to talk about, in particular, and give an answer to what will happen tomorrow in russia if putin will announce the annexation of our territories to uh, here are these enemies of ours, and let 's move on to our studio experts who said that i want to give the floor to peter chernyk in order to somehow

analyze uh and that what we talked about a lot , we just heard from oleksiy danilov, i think it's also important, but let's talk about this nuclear threat, which everyone is talking about now. now how about this thought about that that it was heard earlier and by some other military expert, what if they even use these nuclear missiles, they can shoot them down over their territory, that is, they can overtake the russians , so to speak, shoot them down over russia, and now danilov, he is somehow the same about this so he said that the embassy is being taken away from russia and this is happening for a reason. what do you think about it ? what real danger do we have now? let's really figure it out in the end. i want to say that it will be my personal position let's figure out why this blackmail is happening in

principle and in essence. so, russia has fallen into a strategic trap in ukraine, it will inevitably suffer defeat here and it is mandatory to suffer later. mega narcissus and putin are well aware of this and cannot accept defeat in ukraine in a classic military the sense then knows very well and remembers several historical examples that all tyrants who lose the struggle for power, they inevitably die or die like sloboda is not a fool, but under mysterious circumstances in a european prison like saddam hussein's hanged head flew off like murka dafi died of such severe torment that it is difficult to recount or even an easier option let's say like a cool mubarik who served 6 years in prison putin will never go away this must be very clearly understood it will not happen this will not happen there are no people who he is arrested and he remembers what happened to such german generals and marshals like yoden and

keitel, who signed the capitulation of nazi germany at one time, both were hanged for him by sea trial, and their keite was still dying in very, very heavy ears, and then a logical question and what is left for him, what is left for him, how not to raise the nuclear rate, or will it come to this point, here is my personal position - this is guessing on coffee grounds, because it is impossible to remember where the point of no return is. in principle and in essence, i will remind you that five people make the decision to launch a nuclear strike, it's not just putin, it's five people, everyone has their own segment of technical responsibility for launching this procedure, the rules, they can participate, five can't, you know, we greatly simplify the process we simplify it so that then he picked up the phone

and called yes there colonels anu give the missile 101 over here 95 ims the horror is not there in ukraine it won’t be like that it’s a long chain and on this chain it can be broken this must be understood and another very important point also fortune-telling over coffee thickets except for hiroshima and nagasaki we have no humanity, no experience, what does the use of nuclear weapons look like without a review, is it tactical or is it partially yes, acid is also very far, not an export conversation in our media space is it strategic hiroshima and to what extent is this a bomb, it flew to the point where everything modern except the projectiles exploded, because they, too, they have this rocket, there is a warhead, and how it will behave in reality. how life is unknown, because all that was tested, after all, were laboratory test sites. you have to understand this very much . an important detail, whether it will come to anything, i don’t know if there are

means of interception, the americans have such a unique rome 161 missile, which is mainly on heavy destroyers, but it can also be in a land version with a firing range of up to 2.5 thousand km, let’s remind you of this noise at first zero about the so-called pereo system, which the americans supposedly built in eastern europe against the iranians, we now understand well why the americans did it and how the pereo system differs from the pto system, the plane entered space, was it shot down or was the object, say, a period missile, allows interception at the start but there is a nuance, there are strategic weapons, what is in the ground, what is in underwater missile launchers , and let's say such mobile installations as rs-

24s . air force mig-31 is a relatively small object, they have dozens of them, pick up nine, not equipped, one equipped, and guess where there is a nuclear munition - it is incredibly difficult, but i emphasize once again, once again , it is my view that putin will be able to start a conversation with damn, only when he realizes that there is a threat of his personal liquidation until that moment, is it all ours ? the boss has many questions i prepared for you, you revealed them along the way, in particular, whether it is possible to predict and intelligence can definitely indicate that a nuclear strike is being prepared , nuclear warheads are already rising somewhere in the

air, so we have to understand this, you answered this question, but i wanted to clarify everything well, now many experts point out that if there is a tactical strike, it is a tactical gift of a house on the battlefield. so where, well, in particular, the armed forces of ukraine can conduct an offensive, and that's actually about that. well, i don't know. that there will definitely not be a first strike on the cities. what can you say about this? and that they can deliver this tactical strike on the battlefield where the offensive is taking place. well, what are the consequences? i don't know what can happen, so i explained why nuclear weapons are really tactical three projectiles would be 3b v2-3bv3 necessary v4 if we remember correctly, to installations such as two s4 jet mini-mortars of caliber 240 mm plus 152-millimeter artillery and 27 beams of 203.7 caliber can use nuclear shells

with a kiloton weight somewhere in the 2- 2.5 kg, let me remind you that hiroshima the first bomb 15 kn the second 21 kt but they didn’t explode completely there only a particle exploded because the technology was absolutely still as it should be not worked out is it serious can be skoda from them of course but again it’s all geopolitics under any circumstances even one a projectile is already geopolitics, because it is a nuclear weapon , even a tactical one, and the united states of america will be forced to respond. they have no choice, because north korea dreams of striking with the power of nuclear weapons, but the unresolved indo-pakistani conflict is just a dream the conflict over the states of jammu and kashmir, both nuclear countries, china can come to a conclusion, yes, there will be no nuclear escalation, taiwan is starting to solve it with military force. how is it, iran, we don’t know if someone else has a ready-made bomb or not, whether it is

in that dirty state , you will be happy to take it. - to solve the problem with the israelis with a nuclear color, the world will really get bogged down in something that is hard to comprehend, that's why i believe that our american allies have 100% intelligence tools. their agency work was incredible the high level is 26 intelligence societies, not the cia and not the anb, the only one and i am sure that when there is a real evidence base that there is a solution and it can be implemented, some mechanisms will be used. the americans have a unique in space hat 37b boeing 2, for 5 years, he can fly there in the most secret way, their system, which from the point of view of others is reverse engineering, that is, you understand what can be there, probably there is some kind of high-tech weapon, some kind, and it involves the prejudice of such things in the

dry, so very sober, really objective conclusion from 1962 of the so-called caribbean crisis, nuclear danger is indeed at its highest point, but my position as an expert is, of course, i can be wrong in my analysis. tie to reality because no one knows how to feel this example, how it will happen. that's all that matters is what you are saying now, and our viewers are watching it, and again, our reviews testify to this, because people are interested in it, even that the information they hear that it is impossible to predict that it is all just guesswork, it is also important to understand and realize and i will continue