they reset the following addresses, it's literally there, the house next door, we get it all into the car, put it in the car, and we have problems with diesel, because more than one gas station did not work, and we somehow found the next house there. it's literally through a high-rise building on the other side of the street, we get there two more, the police tell us he's there on the next side of the house, it turns out two more where it's standing so we transported up to 20 to 16 bodies there, we put them in the car at the same time and that's it putting the body in a bag so as not to cover anything is very difficult. no, it's all in the blood and the car is all kinds of when you load there are 15-16 tables. it's just a game going and everything will be completely covered. the work was

like that at the time, there was no time, i was already thinking about something , something, including something like that, it just worked and we took everything away, they don’t remember how old you are. x years old, they were killed in a car, we shot the car, their father simply pulled them out of the car carried it home, dressed it and buried it behind the house, transporting the bodies of the dead, it’s all free, those we find in the forests, we will buy it, how is the work today

? and who is going to do it? they already wanted to take it away, well, everyone is the same as us. if we don't go, we will probably go for free . someone will have to go as well, and the other one will have to do it for free. there are many russians, eh, i don’t know who wrote that from russia , you don’t know whether it was yours who bombed there or who is bombing bucha, that irpin, eh borodyanka, all this still needs to be proven that it was the russian military who bombed there and our people died from their shells that 's right, most of the firearms are not. it's not that the schoolboy flew there. well, some kind of rocket flew in. and

here's how a person died. it's firearm advice , but here the ukrainian military, i understand. there was no way to say that it was ours who killed them there . such cannot be studied in the university at the e-e faculty of e-e training , retraining and advanced training of tax police officers was against the cadets in irpen well, then life turned out so that i started working in the ritual service for my father, he was engaged in if he took over from my father, it did not start and i had some of my father's work there the monuments that needed to be erected, i started well, to finish the work, if only because the deposits and the people were taken, and well, the work needs to be done, while i finished them, the village council began to call and colleagues began to call and say that now you are working yes good

because we thought that who is going to do it? i understand together that there is no one to do it. and the work is important and somehow i made a decision for myself then that i will stay in the ritual service. i transferred to the correspondence form of education and started working in the ritual service. comrade, he is a military man, said that the war has already started, what are you preparing for, that they will come here to visit us, and he thinks that what are you planning, the locals called here, he says come on, we will gather at the house of culture, we will think of something, do some defense first, there are many people there i was afraid of my friends there, they thought that there would be patrols here. let's do something. well, no, not everyone wanted to go to war, but the military commissariat did not work for us. hmm, we came

here and started to do some kind of self- defense. they were all in gostomei, they were all in gostomel. they all told us that they will flee from there more often, they will also come here, and through us they will go somewhere and get out, and if we drove, we tried to catch them there, and there was also a lot of information because there were a couple of cars driving there with the bearded women are carrying something in the direction of irpen. they need to be caught. and every time such an exit, someone somewhere saw a person with a machine gun. somewhere they saw a person there with such exits. if there were patrols, well, they almost did not sleep there literally in a couple of days there for a couple of hours, then as early as march 2 the occupation itself began, a shell landed in mykulych, killed a man, and immediately three people were seriously injured. it was very difficult . we thought that he would not survive until the morning. we had doctors and a veterinarian stitched him up here in the house.

of culture there, she made an operating room, if we had a pharmacy manager, i don’t know. she said that they gave us the keys and told us to take everything we needed, we moved everything here, and then they began to operate, and the person survived the next day, and somehow the brother got out of buchu and well, he survived here, we started to make a warehouse if food was all that we could get here, we started bringing it here even before the occupation. it is such if the place is remarkable we started to lose the food we brought in the bunkers. i just ran out of food. the shops are already easier if there is nothing to go and buy food somewhere. well, it is also

unrealistic. we started to think about how we would survive in mykulychy farm. they started going there to take pigs, then the russians set up two roadblocks for us one of all kadyrovtsev, one uh, well, ordinary russians were military and those two blocks of checkpoints, you arrive, then you take a pig there, they read how many people in nemyshaevo, in general, a person was assigned to each massif who was responsible for er, well, the number of people, and then she gave us a list of people, we counted, and we determined that one, er, they give us, for example, there are 100 pigs, yes , there are enough pigs for us, and the amount of time, let's distribute it, let's take it we spread food to everyone and it turns out that we already have the rest, then 400 g of meat per person per week was enough for us, maybe we had a man, not only did they feed everyone here, well, there were probably 20 men. well, someone just drove the food, someone cooked the food. well, there are only

from those who yes who drove the woman called and said what's wrong with her there father died of frostbite come bury me i say well when i get there the russian military is standing there and they were everywhere there it was impossible to come at all in moroz at the end of the day it was not too old to come in she went to them at the checkpoint made an agreement called called said that you can go she came from morotsky to nemyshaevo on foot, got into our car, we drive up there, they met us, looked at us, covered them with these ears, and with theirs, they covered the car with white tapes and tried to take the person and hide them only on in the cemeteries, we did not bury in the yards if possible, we took the coffin, we came, we took the body, we went to bury the car, we looked around, we looked again, and the two of us went , got into the car and they followed us, everyone in the cemetery approached us, let's dig, and they

became machine guns above us and did not wait until we will finish the funeral in full. well, you are digging for yourself, you are standing, this is not allowed. where do you see something like that in them? military acquaintances, what can or do you need help there? well, i am ready to go and help if there is a need for it. i know that it is not enough, just who can, those who are the boys, those who fight . how, how should it be done, well, we are ready to help, new

times give birth to new symbols. good evening, we are from ukraine, a symbol of our indomitability, a symbol of revenge and memory of ancestors, a kind heart and motherhood, a symbol of family, mastery, a symbol of despair and the main symbol of fantastic people, their face is us you will see their names in the news, you will not find them in the lists of

those awarded, they are unknown but extraordinary, they report on enemy positions, they put up leaflets and blow up traitors, they bring victory closer, and because of them, the enemy is burning under their feet, the earth is burning because this is our land. glory to the ukrainian partisans, this is my country, my fields are mine friends, brothers , parents, children, neighbors, students, doctors, teachers, soldiers , we are all, all of us, regardless of age, beliefs, preferences , beliefs, and we are all united now. we will win. glory to ukraine. good evening, we are with the marathon. every evening at 20:00 we keep our finger on the pulse and

summarize the main points for you. watch the final issue of the only news of ukraine and the world only in the joint marathon about the most important events, turn on the only news to be aware of the main leading channels of ukraine, we fight together and win in the marathon, the only news is the main thing every day at 20:00 international justice has played a long time for these cases, there is no statute of limitations, and in the end i believe that the same thing will happen as it once happened with milosevic through taylor albasher, in the end these people who were considered heroes and now they know how authoritarian dictators have been demonstrated , once they can lose everything public opinion can change, so now putin has elevated

himself to some kind of pedestal, but this pedestal can be destroyed international experts, investigators of the international criminal court are currently working in ukraine they have been investigating the war crimes of the russians since the first days of the full-scale invasion, are we really going to see vessels on war criminals even before the war is over... nothing prevents us from conducting trials against persons who have violated international criminal law, pro-russian soldiers who have committed crimes against the civilian population will also be prosecuted, we have already seen such trials and i hope that they will continue, but now the most important thing is to focus on gathering evidence and making sure that it meets the requirements of the court process and this is exactly what the

international criminal court is doing now. of course, it is currently very difficult for us to imagine exactly what the end of the war will look like. perhaps it is this uncertainty that should deter us from to draw some clear parallels with these tribunals and international courts that took place earlier in history, but are there any lessons from previous courts that we could already borrow the actual scale of the feating ball what were the difficulties regarding the war in yugoslavia, there were significant challenges regarding the consideration of cases in the middle countries while these cases were being considered by the international criminal tribunal, the national courts of yugoslavia were only trying to gain some credibility for conducting such trials. trials in iraq are often extremely difficult when a country wants to focus on trials of

war criminals at the national level because local courts must do it in accordance with international standards of justice and impartiality and this requires a lot of effort and experience, but i believe that ukraine has the opportunity to demonstrate a successful approach to conducting domestic war crimes trials in accordance with international standards and to do so better than we have seen in the past in other countries an important point is that the international criminal court works according to the principle of complementarity, which essentially assumes that the primary responsibility rests with national courts, therefore the international criminal court and the international community, and by right, will first rely on ukraine to conduct such investigations, but i want to emphasize that ukraine will gain trust and legitimacy in the eyes of the international

community it should conduct all procedures and trials in accordance with international standards of fairness of bias and i think it will work out and in the end international judicial institutions, in particular the international criminal court, will focus on higher-ranking criminals and of course one of the main questions is whether the international community will find a way to punish russia for crimes of aggression and this is a separate trial that should take place can you even imagine in russia, such a situation once arose, for example , in modern germany, the germans still judge their own citizens for participation in the crimes of nazism. do you think something similar could ever happen in russia has a great question, but i see neither the possibility nor the desire on the part of the russians within the internal judicial system to bring to justice those

who committed war crimes in ukraine, any desire for justice. in theory, let's recall the example of the former yugoslavia, namely serbia, in relation to which parallels can be drawn with russia during the war in yugoslavia, serbia was just the aggressor, but in the end there was a change of regime and the public accepted it serbia has begun to deal with cases on the national level about war crimes by serbian soldiers who committed them, for example, in the eighth so this is what

happens. about the trial of russian soldiers, talk about the opportunity to see real people who committed war crimes in ukraine, we must mention the possibility of their extradition from russia, it is very difficult to imagine the circumstances under which they can extrude what we can do to make it a reality or probably we will just have to wait with our hands or even decades for it to happen and in general history shows that it can last a very long time if you look again at the former yugoslavia or even at individuals who have the highest level of responsibility such as milosevic charles taylor albasher you will see that eventually the paradigm changes, there is more support within the country to ensure that those who commit are brought to justice

crimes even of its own citizens, so there is such a possibility, but i think your assumption that russia will not cooperate with such legal processes is correct, but there are other ways of prosecution, because you can still conduct cases by issuing arrest warrants or indicting people who have been proven to have committed crimes, and do not forget that for these crimes, war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide, which are currently being committed in ukraine, there is no statute of limitations, individuals can be brought to justice today tomorrow or in a year and it is very important to establish justice - it has been playing for a long time and we should be patient letion ukraine puth solar hop somewhere international intermediate we are talking about the

international criminal court ukraine has high hopes for this international instrument of justice it is important for us to understand what exactly he can investigate, for example, it is clear that we can talk about the russian military leadership. but if we are talking about lower-ranking military personnel, we understand that primarily these cases will deal with ukrainian here, but there may be thousands or even tens of thousands of cases if the ukrainian prosecutors simply do not have enough time on the axis, or can part of these cases be taken over by the icc and case ukraine profects just don't have time forted international criminal card iptv form code don't fight, er, i think the international criminal court will be very picky about the number of court cases on which it will focus, let me remind you that the prosecutors will focus their attention on the perpetrators of the crime of the highest rank, and not on rank-and-file soldiers because they also have limited

resources and they will primarily look at what ukraine is doing and will work according to the principle of complete equality, they will expect that ukraine will investigate most of the cases itself at the domestic level regarding lower-level criminals, so i think the international community should be ready to provide assistance ukraine to carry out these internal processes because no one else will do it. also, what is called universal jurisdiction will be applied when other countries of the world, but especially europe will try to bring to justice those who committed crimes in ukraine, and i think you will see significant efforts by european countries to use this principle of universal jurisdiction, which they

resorted to before, in particular in syria, and this will also help ease the pressure on ukraine, which is forced to independently investigate these cases we want to ask about the application that allows ordinary people on the ground to document war crimes, what are the features of this evidence and the principles of operation of the application, thanks to which the evidence can then be used by international courts or tribunals eplication soldiers evidence fiefdom taking by international chords footballs in the counts and they can also be used by the ukrainian judicial authorities so very important element of gathering evidence visual evidence for example photos videos is that as a rule you need a chain of transmission all that is, you need to

be able to involve those who took the photo or video to testify at the trial. you need to understand where this photo or video was taken. when and how exactly and the most important thing is to show that the video or photo is not fake, if you can’t prove it, even if you seem to have evidence, they are worthless, and you can see the cable designed to collect all the information that is needed in order for the court to accept it, the application fixes the place where the videos and photos were taken. it fixes the towers of the mobile network at the source of wi-fi distribution and the location by gps, and this guarantees that no one can fake the video or images, no one can manipulate them, and therefore you simply transfer the photos or videos to the international criminal court or the

prosecutor general's office of ukraine and this image or video speaks for itself ukraine and let's talk now about another mechanism of justice that is actively discussed and lobbied by ukraine and its partners, this is a special tribunal that aims to bring putin and the highest leadership of russia to justice for a crime aggression that does not cover the actions of kesu in the case of ukraine, what do you think about this idea in general, can it be effective for ukraine, is it worth focusing on it now, and with what difficulties ukraine can to confront in this regard is another good question. i know that there are currently discussions about the creation of a special court that would focus on the crime of aggression, and i will say in advance that if the international

community did this, i would support it, but they still have a lot of difficulties here, and the crime is a national crime aggression is established by international law, it originates from nuremberg and was even discussed before that during the first world war, so i think the problem lies rather in challenges related to the procedural part of how to arrange it, who has it should it be a purely domestic new court that ukraine is creating so that i would caution against this because i believe that any new tribunal or court that may be created to consider the crime of aggression should be established under international law in ukraine because the crime of aggression is the most serious violation of international law, because in essence a state violates the territorial integrity of another state, it is extremely

difficult because there are countries that offer all options . what can be done together with the eu every time in europe, it looks more, i think it is the best option - this undoubtedly, it is more credible if it is a tribunal supported within the european union or the council of europe or even a large group of european countries that have gathered together and supported this initiative. so from a structural point of view, it is much better to do it this way than if, for example, ukraine tried to do it on its own because this tribunal will not receive such trust, but there are other challenges, for example the immunity of the head of state, which exists in international law, at the same time

international law has developed in such a way that involves actually prosecuting the head of state in an international court or tribunal for example in the icc maybe there are no restrictions on this but i think there are still some difficulties about how to be with immunity if you create another new tribunal and call it an international tribunal the second point here is what in order for the tribunal to have credibility , it will be necessary for several really influential countries to join it and support it, and i think that this is a real possible problem because a number of countries simply do not want to create a special tribunal specifically for the crime of aggression against a sitting head of state for the simple reason that they do not want to face in the future the fact that their own

country will not be able to be punished for any such actions and therefore i doubt that the united states will want to join this special tribunal although i may be wrong i think it is easier for of the international community through the international criminal court to prosecute putin because, as i have already noted, there is no problem of immunity of the head of state, because the international criminal court can prosecute him the only drawback is that this way you will not prosecute putin for the crime of aggression, you agree to bring putin to justice for war crimes, crimes against humanity and i will mention the genocide that is happening in ukraine, i would say that this scenario would suit me because i just want him to be brought to justice and i think that this is the easiest way

to do it, so the practical aspect is to really see putin in court physically, it is simply impossible, it is difficult to imagine a situation in which he will go outside the borders of russia, and this would be the only option that he could have been arrested for sex, i think so. this is absolutely true and it is true. you are absolutely right. it would be indecent to think that if the international criminal court tries to convict putin according to the principle of command responsibility, he will soon find himself in the gas. yes, i understand it, but there are two points on which i would turn attention, first of all, this is a very powerful messenger from the international criminal court or other judicial institutions, it is the indictment against putin, international

justice has played a long time on these cases, there is no statute of limitations, in the end i believe that will happen just like what happened to milosevic through taylor albasher, in the end, these people who were considered heroes, and now they know how authoritarian dictators have been demonstrated, once they can affect everything, public opinion can change, so now putin has elevated himself to some kind of pedestal, but this pedestal edestal can be destroyed, history shows again and again that it is possible really about an international criminal site, which special tribunal, who will defend those who could commit war crimes in international courts, without fail there will be defenders when the cases of the defendants are considered in the international court