and the volume of crimes, including war crimes , this is the first, second, they understand absolutely clearly that mr. putin is inadequate, inadequately perceiving the world as a human being, because everything he says does not correspond to reality at all. he is talking, for example, about the zaporizhia region, which has nothing to do with what happened there from the point of view of the automatic ones that pass through the small remainder of the number of apartments that vote to vote as if in a referendum, that is, they saw a person who still lives in the dates before february 24 i.e. putin has still not understood after seven months of war that his country does not know how to fight once that his professional army no longer exists in general two that the european union will not split from the point of view of a pro-russian or pro-ukrainian position or is it a consolidated pro-ukrainian position - these are three fourth that ukraine will absolutely clearly bring the procedure for the liberation of its territories to the

objective final a-and one more question, not a question . well, of the three, it's clear. three of them, and here's the fourth one, yevhen balytskyi. literally two days before the invasion, he participated, he was a deputy, a regional deputy of the zaporizhzhia region, he participated in a meeting of leaders in the region. so when they were preparing and worked out plans in the event of an invasion. that is, this person is very, so to speak , fresh from ukrainian politics. well, good. and now i have a question about this decision of volodymyr zelenskyi, his statement after the nsdc meeting that ukraine is submitting an accelerated application for joining nato is a consolidated decision with all nato countries. is this the first proposal made by ukraine and there in nato countries, this was a surprise today to hear something like

this. odious enough, it has always been sufficiently primitive from the point of view of strategic thinking, and today it has the synonym of article 111 literally written on its face. to the defendants themselves, so let's wait, it's not a very long time, it takes now, the second one is about the accelerated application, the next one, of course , negotiations with our partners were leading up to this, of course they understood that ukraine would go in this direction, because it is, accordingly, the right response to the initiatives the propaganda initiatives of the kremlin, well, regarding these referendums regarding the recognition or non-recognition of something and so on, we understand that the main thing will be done by the armed forces of ukraine, but at the same time, we understand that symbolism, a certain symbolism, is needed which ultimately nullifies the so-called goals of the special

military operation of the russian federation, i.e. the point set today will not be any negotiation process because we generally look at the finalization of this war differently we will definitely be in nato and by the way nato is extremely important because it is important for nato to get a country that can defeat russia and will do it necessarily on the battlefield in order to get all the experience that the ukrainian army has today from the point of view of the tactics and strategy of participation in intensive in conflicts of the modern type, it is extremely important for nato, it is also extremely important to understand today, and they understand that there are no additional levers to limit the possibility of ukraine there, whether to join or not to join , or whether it is necessary to accept all these proposals of russia a let's not take one or another member there , that is, nato already understands that russia can not and will not block our accession to nato, that is, there is no such thing as fluorine. yes, who accompanied our proposals to join the nato and nato who said no, well, look, we

will provoke the russian federation in this way, that is, today, let's say, such fundamental civilizational actions took place, on the one hand, russia showed with this show in the kremlin that it is extremely inadequate in such a status of the political elite that it has today, that is, there is nothing to talk about with it on the other hand, ukraine has proven that we will definitely protect our freedom, but for europe and for ukraine it is extremely important that we be together as one alliance, and thus this is only one possible format of the european of the security architecture, one clarification is simply very interesting, today's announcement by volodymyr zelenskyi was agreed with nato. is it ukraine that has raised the stakes, taken a step unexpectedly for nato, and is now waiting for a response from nato . they will accept us. i am not ready to talk about it, but what we

proposed to nato is to think about these proposals. now they will think that all of kherson and zaporozhye are their territories, parts of which are occupied by ukraine. well, they would officially write it all down and start threatening with nuclear weapons again. and some say that it is possible and they will use nuclear weapons . please tell me who in this case, could protect ukraine from nuclear weapons, as far as i can see now, no country in the world guarantees such protection to ukraine, so let's dot here then and we'll put more. liman with the russian armed forces yes no no let's just so that we understand correctly for the armed forces of ukraine there is no annexation there is an occupied territory that should be liberated and it goes this first second the russian federation international law clearly describes there is no difference look at what russia says in the international they are right to say

that this is our territory, the doctrine of our defense is spreading on this territory, it is not working, it is not working material, it does not work like that for russia, it is clear that from the point of view of propaganda, it will do what well, he will say whatever he wants, but even in crimea when we strike there, yes , russia understands that we are striking on the territory of ukraine in the legal sense of the word, so there is no difference between them and propaganda, we need to get out of their agenda and stop addressing attention to these threats and now the third key thing about nuclear security look well, it's nonsense to say what ukraine will do, we are a non-nuclear state, there is a nuclear club, there is a doctrine of nuclear deterrence, there are clear algorithms, algorithms, how to react if one or the other the country comes down with the game yes and begins to threaten its tactics or strategy e with zero weapons it is written there you cannot allow this on i mean these countries that signed this nuclear

doctrine because it will break not only doctoral deterrence because any a nuclear state or not a nuclear state. but who is buying a component at home today? we know which state we are talking about. they are only accelerating these, for example, north korea is already conducting ballistic missile tests there, which says that literally tomorrow will already use its neighbors, that is, they will break it if russia allows it. i am talking about what you are saying that no one pays attention to it, let ukraine itself take care of the nuclear weapons of the russian federation . mine there, a pre-emptive strike should be made if russia is going to use tactics, an adequate symmetrical symmetrical response should be made in the post-war bases of the russian federation, this is the tactic, the tactic is located and we can't do anything else. let's do it. well, that sounds strange. we can't transfer responsibility for the acts of madness of the russian nuclear state to ukraine, a non-nuclear state. that's nonsense. how should

we prevent it ? we have thus if russia will threaten er with nuclear weapons to give her territory so she will tomorrow look they want to annex how do you say zaporizhzhia region without even having control over the regional center even without having control over the majority of the population there is literally a small piece of territory and several thousand people, that is, they can go into the dnipropetrovsk region, put two villages there and say, look, give us the dnipropetrovsk region because we will attack with nuclear weapons. well, this is nonsense, this is not how global security will be built, especially nuclear is certain protocols and in my opinion you are mistaken that these countries include india and china i no longer take the key countries france and the united states and britain that they did not explain to mr. putin what will happen if it does not end i mean the russian political elite will not finish provoking the world with the use of nuclear weapons. the last question

is very brief. i ask that lyman has been released. not yet, but the encirclement is being completed. see everything related to the military situation in brief . - the second is to record the president because there was already a video of the military from yampil, then i will take two steps back. yes. when we talk about liberated, it means when the territory is not just raised there, but our flag has really been cleared. from the remnants of this russian infection, well, that is, the influx that is there, and this is a few days ago, we officially declare the liberation of this or that settlement, including, by the way, skupyansk, as it was, or with raisins, only after these stabilization measures are already in my life, thank you yours very much mykhailo podolyak, adviser to the head of the president's office, was on radio liberty. well, i will return to sociology while

the kremlin is celebrating this first step toward annexation . sociology poured into the center shows that almost half of russian citizens feel anxious about fear since vladimir putin announced a partial mobilization and now we will. well, we see that sociology is not in favor, not in favor of putin, not in favor of his regime, and uh, the main question is whether this situation is capable of somehow undermining the regime itself until lev hudkov, a sociologist, scientific director of the levada center, joins the broadcast. hello, good evening. i have already quoted the levada center twice today, half of the citizens feel fear and anxiety. says and can you recall similar cases in the history of russia when half of the citizens felt fear, anxiety in itself, fear, it

rises, eh, periodically, since the 14th year, the fear of the great world war eh, that's what the confrontation of the war with ukraine is it can turn into a major war, a world war, and people are very afraid of it, this is such a background fear , it is quite strong, and the fact that the mobilization was announced, it caused only a second reaction, because until this time, absolutely and most of the russians felt relatively the security war is going on the ukrainian territory , it does not concern russia, there is a limited number of soldiers fighting there, and in general, the war did not affect the majority of the population

now, when the mobilization was announced - it sank, well, a huge number of people came to the smaller world 3 families and this is completely different from the second state, the second reaction is, although the relationship to the war and to putin has changed, but not much, that is, it has decreased, approval of it has been done with the support of all other lithuanian authorities, but at the same time here badge the whole process, eh, how to understand what pays for this political adventure. and this is the first time on such a scale. i think that this is only the beginning of this

process . he perceives the wishes of mm. the pressure and readiness to interpolate these regions in the varieties of russia and the train will go to the extent of the deterioration of the economic situation. there, the legal status will present more eh eh autonomous or eh fish well, independent states are eh actually a protectorate of russia, but eh, they have rights in

independent states and a small part only spoke, he continued to speak for about a quarter he continued to say that it is necessary to annex these er territories, thereby establishing, as it were, the power of russia over the soviet space at the beginning of the war, and a sharp increase in readiness to annex er territories and include them in the composition of the russian federation began. eh, eh, the fate of such people, it rose there, eh, first war, 45%, then 55%, that’s all according to the last august measurements. well, almost 70% of the finished product will be presented . because of the mobilization, after the mobilization, that's it, that's it

, what a positive attitude. this is the question , see. many experts saw in the mobilization the first signs of the collapse of vladimir putin's regime and said that finally mass actions will begin, not disobedience protests, but if you look at the situation objectively, mobilization can become the cause of really mass actions protest well, when in the center of moscow there are not 5,000, but there are 100 or 200. no, i don't think, generally speaking , the willingness to participate in actions and protests, including anti

-war rallies, has dropped sharply, and due to police terror , the pressure on on the citizens, but it increased sharply, so there was a lot of fear of a mass return to mass repressions, fear of the arbitrariness of the authorities and others. i don't think that mobilization itself can be such a reason. читать что толко военное ражение может выбедый ворожение россии может ех веджидуй быть часть протевностые протевности подрожение реймем , but they in themselves are great that you joined our broadcast lev gudkov, a sociologist with a doctorate in philosophy at the head of the levada center in the european union, the annexation of the occupied

territories of ukraine was condemned the council of europe declared that the violent change of international borders at the expense of another sovereign state and the so-called referendums that preceded it - this is a serious violation of international law to contact the studio zoryana stepanenko correspondent of radio svoboda in brussels and greetings to zoryan, what are they saying about the latest events in brussels and what answer are they ready for, perhaps they already want to hurry up with the eighth package of sanctions i congratulate you well, you know that the leaders of the european union actually united in support of ukraine after the full-scale invasion. well, they are demonstrating it now because they jointly condemn it and reject the illegal annexation of four ukrainian regions at a time when putin is just delivered his speech, all 27 eu countries issued a joint statement and they emphasize that crimea, kherson , zaporizhzhia, donetsk and luhansk are ukraine. and what russia has done to ukrainian lands today, they do not

recognize and will never recognize the results of the so -called referendums, called them fabricated, the kremlin's decision is invalid without any legal forces, and the leaders assure that neither attempts to sell the narrative that the war may now shift to the territory of russia, nor the mobilization from which russians are fleeing en masse, nor nuclear threats will affect their determination of the european union to put pressure on moscow, and on the contrary, they promise to respond by strengthening class restrictions, this is exactly what you asked the ambassador of the european union about, today the eighth package of sanctions was pre-approved, which includes the addition of blacklists with the names of, in particular, those involved in the organization of so-called referenda and new trade restrictions, although consultations will continue in what form the package will eventually be agreed remains an intrigue and since we know thanks to our sources in the diplomatic circles of the european union that germany and cyprus, in particular, are insisting on some exceptions, and this may concern, in particular, export or import restrictions, let's see. well

, the european union also confirms its commitment to supporting ukraine, and there are no differences here . listen, in the face of russia's aggressive war and the latest escalation by moscow, the eu strongly supports ukraine and its people, we unwaveringly support the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine. ukraine exercises its legal right to protection from russian aggression to restore full control over its territory and has the right to liberate the occupied territories within its internationally recognized borders, the violent change of international borders, and the so-called referendums that preceded it were also condemned in the council of europe as an occupying state, russia was reminded, accordingly, that all organizations bear full responsibility for the observance of human rights there. well, and also in crimea , the aggressor country was once again called for de-escalation , and another country on the european continent that is

no longer a member of the eu, but responds to russian aggression with the daily sum with the unification and by the european union, i mean strongly condemned the annexation, and it is great britain, its prime minister confirmed that london does not recognize the annexation either, she promised that the united kingdom would ensure that putin actually lost the war, by the way, britain today strengthened anti-russian sanctions, added, in particular, to the list of non-entry the assets are subject to freezing, respectively, the head of the russian center of the alvera bank on bigulin we remember that the russian mass media wrote about what would happen after a full-scale invasion on bigulin under vladimir putin dismiss her from her position well, but he refused her this well, now we see that she is among the persona non grata, in particular, of great britain, also of the united states, among all european leaders, as well . by all possible means, including

the introduction of a price ceiling for russian gas, you remember that it is proposed to add only an oil ceiling to the new sanctions package, and the german president also said that he does not recognize the results referendum, and he began his speech on this occasion with a quote from the ukrainian poet serhiy zhadan and concluded with this, i will say that literally in 10 minutes nato secretary general genstoutenberg will also appear in the press and he will announce the reaction of the alliance to this very action to the decision of the kremlin and also we expect that he will publish nato's reaction to the signed application for accession in kyiv today, this is even more interesting than zoryan. thank you very much. we will follow zoryan from brussels. and also news concerning sanctions from washington ministry of finance of the united states has literally just announced additional sanctions against russia due to vladimir putin's statements about the annexation of the occupied regions of ukraine, and according to the reports of the us treasury, 14 people associated with the russian

military-industrial complex are subject to restrictions, including two international suppliers, close relatives of some of russian high-ranking officials and 278 members of the russian parliament, that's it, i read you the latest news, well, it is expected that today the american president joe biden will announce about these very new economic sanctions against russia well, ihor eisenberg, a professor of new york university, joins the broadcast. my greetings to all the viewers and listeners of the word ukraine, well, you know, in my subjective opinion, er, i will repeat kostiantyn eliseyev, who yesterday on our broadcast commented on the sanctions from of the european union. he said that it was like a mosquito bite. well, i also read the sanctions from the united states. well, to be honest, they look weak. but maybe you have a different opinion. the fact is that i don't think that this list of personal sanctions are heard that this is the last or the united states to be further, this is the division of sanctions,

a lot has already been issued, or is it true that they can be introduced more, in fact, the russian economy is suffering a lot from these sanctions, or i would say that it is flying, it was interrupted again, somewhere at the beginning of june, there was such a scientifically substantiated report by e-e economists of zhirsky university on the state of the russian economy due to sanctions, it is already flying into the abyss , it will fly there and look at what was published today well, there are no official reports yet of messages on the websites of the ministry of finance and the state department, it is surrounded by journalists, journalists wrote that journalists usually like personal sanctions very much, they think that this sounds so loudly, there may be sanctions against some company of institutions, let's wait a couple of hours and see what will happen. but i am sure that even these sanctions today this will not limit it, that's all , next week there will be more and there will be more sanctions, you are absolutely sure of this. by the way, you

watched this address by vladimir putin today can you come to any conclusions? i just do n’t have the strength to listen to him yet. i read it. i looked at the pictures from there, they have such guests’ faces, as if they were all hiking, so not very happy. i did n’t see anything. he wants to somehow sell to his people what he is doing. well , look at the combat, all these speeches of his seem to me to have been written off from the relevant conditions of hitler, if you look at what hitler said when he was annexing, annexing students, when he means his from austria did, i.e. actually annexed austria, annexed it to germany, that’s all it’s like two drops of water, but

there is one but there is one very important difference that hitler, unlike putin, did not have nuclear weapons, and in the world invented by putin, this annexation turns war from an offensive operation on defense and putin warned that he can use all weapons to defend his territories. and now he will consider part of the ukrainian territories as his own and nuclear weapons. well, many have no doubt that he can use them. what about this they say in the united states, are they ready for such a development? well, the main question is whether the united states is ready to somehow respond if russia uses nuclear weapons against ukraine. she and the state geo- kremlinkin have already received quite severe warnings and warnings from national security because they said that russia has been warned at the highest level through the appropriate

channels that the united states will definitely give the answer to this is something that will be catastrophic for russia, well, that is, if it is translated from the diplomatic motor, it means that the united states will have an armed response, that is, russia will be struck if, if we try to predict which one, well, hmm, two weeks therefore, less than two weeks ago, he told benhoja and the former commander of american forces in europe that, for example, the united states could simply, for example, destroy the black sea fleet with one blow or destroy itself in a very significant second for russia, the designer, that is, there will definitely be an answer. this is repeated by american high-ranking officials. during the last week, every day, that is, russia knows for sure that if it does this, it will receive an armed response from the united states. the latest news from ukraine from

volodymyr zelenskyi is that ukraine is applying for accession to nato under an accelerated procedure, definitely all 30 nato countries, they are supposedly all equal, everyone has the right to vote, the same right to vote, but informally, if it were known that the usa is such a key country in the alliance. what do you think will be the reaction of the united states? maybe you have already seen some reactions. i don't see it. i think that the united states will react positively. well, it's actually because there are actually three nato countries at the moment, 30 different countries. well, let's say for today hungary and turkey finland and sweden are still blocking the accession to nato, so far hungary is only fighting for the patriots of 28 nato countries ratified the protocols on the accession of finland to sweden, hungary and turkey have not yet ratified and it is not known when they will ratify when

i'll be worried about when this procedure will take place there, despite the fact that there is, yes, there is a connection between the united states and the euro-great britain , the most militarily influential nato country, but we must take into account that hungary is a very large unfortunately, maybe not unfortunately , because look, if hungary wasn't in nato and wasn't in the european union, it would be such a russian cell in the middle of europe , there would probably be things in the czech republic, but i, when i heard about the speech of president zelenskyy an hour and a half ago did you shoot down two hours ago i'm just very absolutely correct blood of the ukrainian leadership just simply congratulation congratulate this step er with two hands for and i'm sure that it will have a significant er in the shelf there will be a reaction according to what the

american high officials will say but but this is absolutely the right decision because ukraine will win when ukraine is in nato because that is when it will win the eyes of russia will never again be able to threaten ukraine thank you very much for joining the broadcast igor reisenberg professor of new york university was on radio liberty . well, the latest news. the national security and defense council literally just broke the news and decided to introduce sanctions against russian citizens and companies that did not oppose russian aggression or those involved in it. the president said this volodymyr zelenskyi i would like to remind you that a number of russian businessmen, such as mykhailo fridman, gennady rotinberg , or igor deripaska, are not yet under sanctions in ukraine, but it is possible that some of them are also affected by these sanctions i do not yet see that the list has been published, but we will keep you informed on

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