today we will premiere the program of september portnikov er portnikov september in any case they will summarize this week's event, a lot of events have disappeared for today, of course they will summarize today too, wait er with our smart professional experienced journalists and analysts you have a virtual chat, so to speak, listen, it is very important to hear 21:30 and i will meet with you already on sunday take care of yourself all the best now for your attention i offer and i offer for your attention a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news let's watch together good evening we are from ukraine from ukraine live from london 219th day of war russia annexes occupied ukrainian territories ukraine

applies to join nato they annex but do not control russia joins the very declaration of the dpr of the lpr of zaporizhzhya and of the kherson region putin considers them all independent ukraine in response submits an application to join nato in an accelerated manner, while the united states declares that it will never recognize illegal annexation and boiler around the estuary, the russian military was encircled in donbas. putin did not mention this in his speech. at the annexation ceremony, therefore, putin did it, he started the process of annexing ukrainian territories, territories that russia

did not even fully control and does not control, partially occupied donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhia, kherson region, ukrainian government, western country they do not recognize the annexation, they declare that it will not change anything, how the ceremony in the kremlin was held, putin's speech 36 minutes in his speech, in particular, he called on the leadership of ukraine to stop hostilities to return to the negotiating table but said the status of the annexed territories is not discussed in the hall applause shouted russia and after the speech putin signed the so-called agreements on the incorporation of new subjects into russia, the same documents were signed by four representatives of the occupation authorities , one of them had a glittering badge on his jacket with the letter z and now remain formal for russia, and the procedures for approval by the parliament, the opinion of the constitutional court, changes to the constitution, the ukrainian government has announced them before now, russia's actions will not change anything, ukraine will release its territories, but it seems that putin thinks that

today was a historic day and with details from moscow, bbc correspondent stevenberg on ukraine ukraine can say that it doesn't change anything, but what is putin thinking? he may be thinking based on what he did. that will change everything because now he will consider these annexed territories to be part of the russian federation, and the russians have already warned ukraine and the west that if ukraine tries to attack or return these lands, which vladimir putin now considers russian, then russia will consider it a violation of its territorial integrity and will respond by all possible means, this is a quote you have heard from russia, including potentially nuclear weapons, we have heard many nuclear threats from russia, for weeks, russian officials, including putin himself, have quite bluntly hinted that russia has nuclear

weapons and will be ready to use them under certain circumstances russia arranges farces, will try annexations, this is how president zelensky reacted to the events in the kremlin, he said that negotiations with putin are impossible, we are ready for a dialogue with russia, but already with another the president of russia said so president zelenskyi and ukraine is submitting an application to join nato, but sweden and finland want to join the alliance in an accelerated manner, the application for ukraine's accession to nato was signed by president zelenskyi, chairman of the verkhovna rada, stefanchuk, prime minister shmygal, and before that, the rate meetings took place supreme commander-in-chief, as well as the meeting of the national security and defense council, and my colleague zhanna bezpidchuky from kyiv is in direct contact with us. so , the application for joining nato explain what it means today's decision today's decision means, first of all, that this is a declaration of the intention of the ukrainian authorities for the international community, it is

an announcement that ukraine is ready to resolutely declare its readiness to join the north atlantic alliance, but between today and the actual accession of ukraine to nato, a minute may be enough a lot of time why first because decisions in the alliance must be made by consensus at the level of the leaders of nato member countries, so far there is no such consensus , germany and france opposed this earlier however, we see their position gradually changing under the influence of russia's war against ukraine, besides, the alliance has such controversial extreme members as hungary, and the big question is whether it will remain with nato measures during this war, because its leadership occasionally expresses such relative support russia will also be interested in the position of turkey. this is the first point. the second point is that volodymyr zelenskyi’s statement today

is not a manifestation of geopolitical romanticism or an announcement of some distant prospects, because on that period while ukraine at the diplomatic level, regardless of whether the war will end soon or if it will continue for some time, will agree on joining the north atlantic alliance, on the one hand, it proposes to temporarily introduce a security mechanism based on the draft agreement, which today is called the kyiv security agreement, which should be signed actively supported countries are ukraine , australia, let's say, canada, of course, the usa, britain, as well as france, germany, italy, the baltic countries, e.e., poland and turkey and other countries of central and eastern europe, and here they are bypassing the un, where in the security council russia can block any decision, in fact they can meet within 24

hours if something threatens ukrainian security, it will be attacked as a country and decide within three days how to specifically help ukraine and allocation of weapons, these may be other ways of helping ukraine up to the closing of the sky over ukraine by individual countries signatories of this treaty. this is what the president proposed today, first a temporary mechanism and then when it becomes possible there will be an absolute consensus in the alliance ukraine's entry into nato and zhanna and another important statement by president zelenskyi about negotiations, that is, there is no room for diplomacy on the one hand, yes, it looks like today was the last red line, the illegal annexation of ukrainian territories by russia after which negotiations regarding the end of the war cannot be as the ukrainian president emphasizes, but on the other hand, we saw that there were agreements on the exchange of prisoners, there were

agreements on the resumption of grain exports from therefore, separate tracks for negotiations are still possible, as we can see from practice, but regarding global issues, for now, no thanks zhanna zhanna bezpyachuk bbc correspondent from kyiv and western countries condemn the actions of russia and do not recognize the illegal annexation, harsh statements began to appear even during of putin's speech in the kremlin yes eu 27 leaders condemn the illegal annexation we will never recognize a fake referendum and illegal annexation this statement by the president of the european council from charles michel and the head of the procommission ursola von derleulein is illegal the annexation declared by putin will not change anything. the united states imposes sanctions against russia. restrictions are directed against hundreds of people and companies, in particular against the defense-industrial complex.

prepares sanctions, here is the statement of prime minister lystrat we will never recognize donetsk, luhansk, kherson , zaporizhzhia region if it is other than ukrainian territory and the secretary general of the year, antonio guterres, says that any annexation of the country's territory based on the use of force violates the un charter, the international community, this is a dangerous escalation that has no place in the modern world, and nato members will never recognize russia's territorial encroachments, so nato secretary general and jens stoltenberg said, and that's what he said regarding ukraine's accession to the alliance, every democracy in europe has the right to join nato and nato respects this right and we declare again and again that nato's doors remain open and we have demonstrated this in recent years, nato allies, when they met at the summit in madrid, also stated very clearly that we support the right of ukraine to choose its own path and to decide exactly which

security measures they want to be a part of. the decision on membership must of course be made by all 30 members and we will make this is a consensus decision now to provide ukraine with support to help it fight against the harsh russian invasion and this is the main focus of nato's main efforts - which we are talking about with us directly communications oleksandr hara diplomats experts from the center of defense strategies i welcome you to our studio ukraine has submitted an application to nato will there be a consensus regarding ukraine's accession to nato i think this will lead to a rather long process of ukraine's accession to nato it is unlikely that this issue will be voted on in any way in the near future and now we see lithuania latvia estonia has already supported the granting of ukraine membership in nato is predicted canada supports joining nato

here are the countries with which there may be conflicts in this regard, well, first of all, definitely this will be germany, we heard merkel like angels even after the large-scale non- invasion of ukraine began on february 24 of this year. she said that she does not regret the decision she made in 2008 not to give ukraine an action plan regarding the membership of not only ukraine but georgia four months later there was an invasion of georgia, the occupied and actually annexed part of the georgian territory did not actually teach the germans anything. a year later, a large- scale program of cooperation with the russian federation was launched. i think that the current one the political elite is afraid, let's say, of escalation, that's exactly why we don't see a readiness to supply ukraine with heavy equipment, primarily tanks, and because this is such a red line that berlin drew for itself, despite the fact that in the united

states they believe that each country chooses those means that it can provide or sell to ukraine, therefore, germany will be unconditionally like that, i do not think that france will remain with the same position, most likely they will change their position. they see that russia is waging a genocidal war, that you are russia a threat not only to ukraine, not only to the eastern flank of nato, but actually to the entire european continent. well, i think that hungary can definitely be a difficult er-er nut, because actually now mr. orban is receiving certain dividends from his destructive position in relation to its senate er-er, for example , the last in the last package there will be no sanctions for the patriarch of the russian orthodox church who announced the orthodox jihad against ukraine well, actually, they depend on the energy plan , these three countries are so key, and i think that there will be some skepticism in other states regarding the compatibility of the ukrainian army with the nato army.

well, there will certainly be nuances regarding the stability of ukrainian democracy, although we have seen that in fact, if compared even with those some are now members of nato, ukraine can be considered as a model of er democracy i don't want to name these countries which, from the point of view of military capability, from the point of view of the rule of law or democratic procedures, they do not quite meet these er goals but the most important thing is that ukraine is a factor of security and in both europeans and americans were convinced of this, the prospects of granting ukraine membership in nato are not so long, as you say, but now the world is talking about the fact that nato members have focused on providing immediate assistance to ukraine, so what other military support can ukraine receive from nato countries? well, you they correctly said that from the nato countries, since nato as an organization does not provide military aid, that is, arming with other

things, it was a principled decision not to show , not to give the russians a reason to believe that they are in in a conflict with nato or with the united states, in fact, of course, in order to clear our territory from the russian invaders, we definitely need heavy equipment, we definitely need air defense . civilian objects are hit by critical infrastructure, i.e. air defense systems. we need tanks . missiles that will allow us to hit targets in the depth of the enemy. i also hope that our western partners, especially the united states, will lift the restrictions on striking russian territory. i am not talking about crimea

. there are no restrictions on crimea. strikes on peaceful cities , forces and means of invasion are accumulating somewhere, and in particular , there is now information that there will be a possible strike from the territory of belarus by a russian satellite the ukrainian authorities have talked about the threat from belarus before, and to put it briefly, the last question is the international reaction. what other consequences will there be for russia due to annexation? well, by and large, the approach is absolutely clear . let's say yes and no not now and not in the future and this is repeating the history of the declaration was made in 1940 when the united states did not recognize the annexation of the baltic states by pompeo's declaration of the 18th year regarding the crimea of ​​others, further this is financial and economic support and the most important weapon because in basically everything is solved on the ground it is decided in battle thank you mr. oleksandr

oleksandr harare experts from the center of defense strategies thank you and while the russian authorities were preparing for annexation, the russian military in the morning fired at a column of civilians near zaporizhzhia they hit with s-300 missiles at least 30 people were killed - 88 wounded - these are the data of the national police people were driving to the occupied territory of the region, the impact occurred at the exit from the city near the car market near the vasylivtsi checkpoint, through which a line of civilian cars for departure to the occupied territory on october 1 in zaporizhia and the region declared a day of mourning, and according to preliminary data, russia fired 16 rockets at zaporizhzhia, four of them hit the area of ​​the car market and the worship of civilians bbc correspondent james waterhouse was at the scene of the tragedy.

zaporozhye is a city in which people tried to live a normal life, it was felt that the population has increased over the past few months, people got used to it, gained relative confidence and returned to their homes, and then something like this happens , and everything points to the fact that it was a targeted strike most of the victims were civilians, they used this place as a kind of station for those who wanted to return to the territory temporarily occupied by

russia, for example, to go to work, visit relatives or something else, and all this indicates that the strike was targeted. it is very difficult to look at the site of the strike near zaporozhye talking about the russian annexation of ukrainian territories, it is important to understand that russia has declared as its territories that it does not fully control, moreover, the ukrainian military is conducting a successful counteroffensive in donetsk region, luhansk region is taking the encirclement of the russians under the estuary, the spokesman of the eastern group of troops stated that the encirclement operation is no longer at the final stage due to the fire control of the armed forces of ukraine, in fact, all the logistical routes of the enemy were approaching, this is confirmed by western military observers, and the liberation of the estuary of this great railway junction will open the way to the de-occupation of the neighboring cities of st. of severodonetsk and we are in touch with oleksia ezhyk

, experts on security issues, representative of the national institute of strategic studies greetings to you on the air, is it clear how many russian troops can be surrounded by the estuary, well, there are different estimates when they will surround you. equipment, just like in izyum, when it escaped from there, after all, the russian troops were mostly theirs, and here not all will even escape because there is already an operational encirclement and it will probably be full. in fact, this is the first such cauldron for the russians during the war. this is how the ukrainian military managed to do it. well, i think this is a continuation of the operation that was

launched in the kharkiv region. this is just a continuation. which we still got, although perhaps without tanks, but with armored vehicles, more mobile, and of course this is a good preparation with the help of artillery and these wonderful systems called hahaha himers uh, although you already know this, this is a meme rather, but simply the technique works. it allows you to destroy the enemy's logistics, his strongholds and headquarters, and so on, they are already more mobile, mobile, different, the weather is still the same, but now we see. why, for several months, they taught, including the united kingdom and uh,

a significant number of ukrainian troops were trained at bases in germany and at bases in poland , they are already trained and know how to fight russia, the encirclement of troops in the estuary is a blow to the incapacity or a blow to the country, well, in part, it is a blow to the capacity, after all after all, there are such assumptions that the russians are even sacrificing those mobs, as they call them, mobilized by their units, which they left in the estuary in order to prepare the defense of the svatov, which is more important for the control of the luhansk region, and for them, of course, they are are losing, but still, the main thing is that despite all the political steps of russia, the counteroffensive continues, and all these statements by putin

that we heard today are simply ignored and show that it is practically migrating not just someone declares that it's just ukraine - it ignores er ignores and continues counteroffensive to find the wrong territories that putin declared as russian, well , in fact, putin does not talk about any defeats on the battlefield, the russians retreat voluntarily, as he says about kharkiv, kharkiv region, for example, but what are the other possible places for the encirclement of the russians? kherson, the right bank of the dnipro, this is where the encirclement is still possible, like in the estuary. i think it will eventually be possible, uh, not in different areas, because after all, operational tactical operational encirclement the encirclement of one important stronghold of the russian troops, but well, the next large encirclement,

you are absolutely right. you say this in anu- it is actually already this grouping on the right bank of the dnieper. if it is still cut into several parts, each of these parts will be surrounded, well , kherson - this is the biggest. it will probably be encirclement on one side by the dnieper on the other, on the other side by ukrainian troops on, but such encirclements well, for sure, all the cities that the russians will try to hold will be encircled ukrainian cities and melitopol and mariupol and all more or less large settlements, what are they, where are they preparing a defense system, oleksiy ezhyk, security experts, representative of the national institute for strategic studies, thank you, what will russia do next on the front and can it use tactical nuclear weapons against ukraine american military analyst ben hodges

believes that in the event of a russian nuclear attack on ukraine , the united states can destroy the russian fleet in the black sea. so, the hawk of american policy in the past, he was the commander of the us army in europe, and it is not known whether he has many followers in the pentagon. however, his opinion is definitely listened to there, and i agree. my colleague miroslava petaza in case russia recently spoke with you. you recently stated that if russia uses nuclear weapons against ukraine, the usa will strike at response and will hit the russian black sea fleet you were once the commander of the us army in europe but now you are retired what do you think or share your views general mine or secretary of defense austin ta won't be in the pentagon, i hope they agree and of course the context of what i said about the black sea fleet was that if

russia makes a terrible mistake by using tactical nuclear weapons against ukraine it will be impossible for the united states not to respond they will have to respond because if they don't russia can do it again china is watching iran is watching north korea is watching other nuclear weapons countries can see wow if the united states doesn't react seriously then maybe they will also be able to use nuclear weapons to hold the country hostage, to hold their neighbors hostage. and how would you like the state of the ukrainian army, were you surprised by the speed of the counterattack that recently took place in kharkiv oblast ? i was not surprised by how well ukrainian soldiers fight, my first experience of communicating with them was in 2015. i have a good friend who is currently serving in the ukrainian army. we were in

iraq together many years ago. i have been working with ukrainian officers and soldiers for years. but after the russian invasion of crimea, when i was the commander of the us army in europe, we began to work with ukrainian soldiers at the yavoriv training center near lviv, and therefore i saw them as a military force transformed according to the western model, which shows the talents of young people in this difference in contrast to the russian model where everything is centrally controlled and you just push people forward, now you can see ukrainian soldiers and officers who are able to make decisions at lower levels to use their talent and me too i am aware that ukrainian soldiers are the most innovative and technically savvy of all the military of any country in the world. i was impressed by how quickly they learn and how skillfully they use what they have. it is impressive, so i was not surprised by this. this war will end when the last

russian soldier passes that a large bridge across the kerch strait i believe that the ukrainian forces have the potential to push back the russian forces to the line of february 23 by the end of this year, and further that it is really possible, it will be difficult, but i think that it is quite maybe even then, and i think by the middle of next year, ukrainian troops will control crimea, assuming that the west will continue to fulfill everything we promised and support the sanctions for a week and a half, russia is mobilizing in some cities, protests, thousands of people have fled abroad, does this indicate that putin has taken an unpopular step, the bbc correspondent investigated table rosenberg warns his plot contains details that can shock for many months the war for the russians was somewhere far away now it is noticeably closer moscow is mobilized

the special operation is advertised at transport stops and on billboards. russia calls them heroes, but there are not enough heroes, so even more men are recruited to the conscription points and sent to ukraine . there will be no conscripts for military service in the combat zone, but for the president to escalate the conflict, putin begins the annexation of 15% of the ukrainian territory on the streets of moscow from this there is not much cause for excitement, and i don’t like it because it is the territory of ukraine. i think that it is a complete disaster and not only for ukraine, but

also for russia; moreover, the kremlin draft has caused general fear during all the years that i have been covering events in russia everywhere i have been. heard from people one phrase more than any other we must avoid war this country knows very well the cost of war millions of people died here in the fight against nazi germany and yet today the russian leadership is convening and sending its citizens to the front and annexes large territories of its neighbor. and this is what can happen to those who dare to speak out against the war. artem kamardin just read an anti-war poem. the police broke into the apartment and the horror began. artem's fiancee sasha was also there. they began to drag me along the floor by my hair. they ordered me to carry superglue. put stickers on my face with superglue, they threatened to tape

my mouth shut, how they talk about the rape of artem, described how they would do it, they made him undress, and while i was lying, they they pulled me by the hair and showed me photos of a naked and beaten artem, the russian invasion has devastating consequences for ukraine, but also for russia itself, and the war has been going on for more than 7 months. that's the end of our issue. read more news on our bbc.ua. the cold is already celebrating.