this is the norm - it's just a team burty mankurty people unemployment tribes without a conscience bastards and it's not only ukrainians there it concerns the so-called yes no well look look what they turned into belarusians oh well oh this is really what was waiting for ukrainians i remember soviet times and my comrade komsomol worker, they went to the dnieper on a boat, and these komsomol people were gathering at that time, or a big komsomol boat, cards there, that means a komsomol member, they were playing there, well, they had some kind of exchange there, some kind of exchange, and he the cleaning lady spoke ukrainian well, she turned to him and he was sitting next to me in belarus, what are you talking about ? the post-soviet era and once i was traveling on a

train from moscow to the soviet union. my neighbor was a lady member of the upper house. it seems to me that the parliament of belarus is already lukashenko's, but she was she was going to a meeting with members of the federation council, so she made a permanent, you know, yes, the director i did beauty school and of course in such a situation you can't go to bed it's evening then he comes there at 6:00 in the morning already she was sitting the whole time we were sitting as she was sitting i was also then because they were inconvenient to convey and we were reading she was reading belarusian to me there are also poems in ukrainian, they drank tea and read from poems, and she told me, god, you know, i can’t do it to anyone. well, she reached great heights there, well, i can never say what she can’t do to anyone, that’s how according to the poem in belarusian, no one and finally here she is she loves it was clear that she was in love with a person there in belarusian poetry this is what it is for them and here we were sitting with her i see many such beautiful poems and i felt her sincerely you already know how to contribute and

then you know how it happens in these films an ordinary miracle when it ends in for that and eh, do you remember me during the performance yes yes she is gone yes yes yes she was already like that she will never think that we just sat with you and read to you yanko dug maksym tankov yes i am like that i i would remember this for the rest of my life if i ever had such a thing opinion i want to share eh now it’s not worth thinking about it anymore because everything is already clear in ukraine yes, who is an enemy is a friend but i always say that i have eh and how to say it belarusian ecological nationalism by the way, i am not ukrainian ecological belarusian nationalism i am ecological nationalism, look at this, when something disappears from the face of the earth, an animal, a blade of grass, some green spaces there, the whole world has no independents, everyone says oh, it’s a shame

that such a species has disappeared, oh, it’s a shame that such a species has disappeared before our eyes, not just something has disappeared, a blade of grass, but a language the great belarusian country of europe is disappearing, there is simply no such thing as simple ecology, biodiversity is the conditions for the survival of nature, the diversity of people, the diversity of opinions, this is the system of survival of humanity because there are some discussions, people invent some new technologies because of this, and here, in front of us, the uncle comes and says no there is no such language. there is no such language. byelorussian, er, the so-called president since 1994, he only spoke about the language about destroying, he has nothing, symbols, history, everything is nothing. yes, and we sit and let's look at the belarusians well, some are sorry, some

are angry, i don't know, but i always say it's just a diamond, any nation that lives on the globe is a diamond, that is, belarusian culture is of great value, belarusian poetry, belarusian prose , korotkevich, the wild hunt of king stakh, classic things, maksym bogdanovich, etc. examples maybe belarusian songs that we admired in yes people who say there is no such thing but there are belarusians say we don't need it yes this is now maybe something they are from the 20th year in the 20th year as soon as they started speak out against lukashenka immediately white-red white flags appeared, you will say a lot to talk about, they are just an occupied nation. yes, the truth is protected, there is still time to speak. by the way, there are a lot of questions about the nuclear explosion. i think that we are not we can ask everyone for each question, we don’t need it. so,

nexia will be considered legally formalized when the federal assembly votes for it and then signs that it is necessary to start, whether the deputies did not support the annexation of the occupied territories, or the likely a military coup what do you have to support that they are internal for it but they want to listen to it they went to rest in the crimea , now they will also go to a part of the kherson region dzharylgach island is beautiful, the cities are beautiful, how is it someone spoke russian in an interview today and after that the entire proclamation, some deputy says we will kill them there, we will take them away in general, we will do everything as we like yes, as we like well, i will kill everything here, we will take it away, yes, as we like, in short , the people of russia were able to collapse the empire, under what conditions will this happen, are the protests in dagestan able to bring about a revolution, why are the tatars , the most numerous native people of russia, incapable

of destroying the russian empire in the empire of 85%. the republics that have a root gave birth as a majority, not so many 10 from the 90s, ten out of ninety are subjects of the federation and the federation, of course it can be strengthened with the weakening of russia, but it will not be a national element, but a financial and economic one, but the peoples can also how much to use, because it changes, as we say, dynamically, you can't turn it off for example, the vientiane will rise up there, and the neighbors will look. and there is something else that is not needed there . out of the 21 republics of russia, the statistics are like this: in only eight republics, the language of the colored people is the native language of the absolute majority. this language is also of great importance for identification. why are they silent ? - firstly, the tatars are not completely silent, they are simply

satisfied with the status of a state-owned state. they still have much more privileges. and secondly, it is necessary to understand that two-thirds of the tatars of the russian federation live outside the borders of the republic tatarstan, if you tatars do not understand that the independence of your republic will still lead to the fact that two-thirds of your compatriots will remain in russia, from which you are going to separate, there was a strong national movement in tatarstan in the 90s, they advocated turning into the russian people's union republic, but this is a completely different thing then, because then they would have been a union republic, while other natalyas lived in other union republics, but here we are talking about state demarcation. of tatarstan are ready to leave other tatars of russia in such a situation. i have doubts. there are questions. how important is this? there is already a majority of them, but now it is

true, but again, the majority is more than 51%. 49% are not yakuts, it's not just that in the 90s, so that you understand, there were so many russians in the soviet union, they were less than 50%. others were great nations that fought for sovereignty, that were the majority of their countries, ukrainians, belarusians, latvians, lithuanians, estonians, uzbeks, kazakhs, were not the majority, they did not become, but the peoples of russia, that's how russia is, percentages the peoples of russia by themselves in russia they do not have unfortunately for this we all the time extrapolate their capabilities to the soviet union, you understand, the russian federation is not the soviet union, it is almost an ethnic state, russia, but still, if the processes that have started now and continue to continue let's look at such republics as the republic of tova , how they simply have an outlet to somewhere, which these i don't have, they don't have an outlet to the non-freezing seas, but there are

six months, somewhere in the caucasus, almost all of them, almost all of them, yes, but they are small, you understand even if it turns out that these small republics are separated, they can continue to live like this, i didn't understand, but they can live in small states too. it's just that from this russia, it's just russia's dream that they go somewhere far away and not feed them there conditionally. i say yes, well but these are all subsidized regions, it is also necessary to understand that among them , only tatarstan is non-subsidized. isn't it the map of the state? it seems to me that there are a million questions ... i want to say that the important thing is that we are with mykola journalists, you will understand that the profession of journalism creates a certain resistance to stress because we read the news all our lives, this is a choice, of course you

just started in february or is it possible earlier when you started reading this whole stream, you can from him from him and we have been waiting since the end of the 80s, we are in this is how we live wars suffering tragedies bombings the destruction of entire cities this is just an ordinary professional life this is you how can you ask a surgeon who operates on people every day and some die yes yes and it's terrible how he endures it he endures it because it's his choice, it's his profession, a journalist doesn't have the mental balance to achieve with the path of books, music, or maybe wine, you're a good idea, yes, that's an option, and it's not to relieve stress, it's just ordinary life, news, they and create the meaning of this profession, the greater the level of escalation, the greater are the professional opportunities of journalists without the greatest battles of journalism

created by these people right in the whirlpool, the military figure hemingway cherchik, these were people whom we can simply envy their and on and look and vice versa i er, i recently spoke with an israeli journalist who works a lot. i say you are anti-canada, she says why i am speaking because there is no news in canada like sweden. so it is just the world 's bedroom there, there are people there, nothing is happening and vice versa israel is here faith is here for you you actually have problems here, but in sweden you read the news, of course it is very important to know the political portraits of swedish leaders, 20% finally voted for the ultra-right, let's look at the political portrait of the leader of the ultra-right, let's sit and look for these news, maybe they will still be. i remember that i was once the president of the ministry of foreign

affairs from sweden. i speak to foreign journalists, and how do you work here? you say it is a very tragic job , because i am told that my colleague is accredited by sweden, norway and finland, and everything is fine. yes yes, such news. every day something important happens there, concerts, theater premieres, literary contests - the hundred thousandth child in the maternity hospital is not something that is of wide interest, completely, a friend, close friends, i just talked about him, just alex, he was making a movie, eh about how much you still need to sleep for civil aviation pilots, here he is, here he is from toronto, he flies in australia, how much oh and it was a study, it was a movie, i don't remember, but they traveled from australia with them, they filmed how do you feel about it how much coffee do you need well, this is canada, there was a fantasy about this in the newspaper, dagen smikheter even sent this

study in one of them, which is related to the fact that what do you think that your compatriots vote for some idiots because they are idiots? no, this is a genetic problem, your vote is determined genetic in some features, it's a whole big article in the roof, snow getta on the first sleeper don't think that everyone around is idiots, they are not by themselves, it's in them, in fact, it's here with us volodymyr melchenko, director of the energy dash of structural programs, the rumzkova center is already waiting for our conversation e-e p mykola p vitaliyu well, what about the nord stream, well, definitely, yes, i think so, he sank, as they say, yes, that is, he blew it up. what do you think of the russians themselves or not russians ? i think that the process clearly told us today in in his historical report on the annexation of ukrainian

territories, the president of russia himself, who undermined it, he already clearly stated and why it was done, he clearly said that uh, and what, in his opinion, was most likely done by the united states or in order to create a split between in order to seize the energy market of the european union instead of russian energy carriers in order to seize competitive advantages in the economy of the european union. the european union would be an appendage of the economy of the united states, that is he clearly said that about this but but we all understand that this is that this was done to russia precisely in order to bring the russian e-e between the european union and the united states for this it was done because it is the strategic task of russia e-e without this split e in essence, russia has no chance in that

war with ukraine and the west as a whole, but on the other hand, volodymyr, well, let's imagine that they achieved their goals, divided ukraine, won everything here, the tricolor over lviv, we her until the pipe is still not there, it is not there, it is not the same what can be taken well, come on, we quickly outnumber them and in general, they destroyed the object for billions upon billions, well, tens of billions of dollars, and both at least left it the unfortunate nord stream-2 just in case. now ukraine remains and the turkish stream, the turkish stream into it the license is revoked mykola and there is no yes, it can work, but until a certain moment, before the first crisis arose, they actually use it correctly, i say mr. volodymyr, it is not legitimate, god yes but but look what’s the matter at this stage for putin, the differences between

the european union and the united states are important, not the preservation of this, he sacrificed this strategic goal, is this gas pipeline really worth it, can i say clearly how much it costs? the underwater part is worth about 20 billion dollars. a corridor from yamal to er ball was built there, and here are the plows and that’s another 120 billion, that is, they spent 140 billion , and then and then they blew it all up. important i when yesterday and today in the first half of the day, i looked at what russian liberal economists say about this, they all say that this is a new stage, that this is a catastrophic story, that this is something well, that this will be

written in some terrible black letters in the history of mankind, in the history of europe, this something changes so much not so much seriously , i don't know what this is. i just want to ask, vladimir, how come i didn't hear an explanation from them, they all say, you can't imagine this second february 24 on the european continent, it's a new war - it's a horror nightmares horror horrors so why? well, of course they will promote this topic and blame blame the states for this connection and what will be the next step they will say let's repair this gas pipeline and how can it be repaired there is only one way to repair it at the expense of a hydraulic clamp a special repair clamp made by the american company e-e states industries. this

clamp is 10 m long and weighs 106 tons. it is the only clamp in the world that can repair it. it is the largest clamp in the world. with his help, this gas pipeline and then the same thing will happen as happened with those turbines, eh, so siemens will say, well, come on, we want you to repair and connected and they are under sanctions, this gas pipeline and, accordingly, the equipment, then the russians will say you see, america doesn't want to repair this gas pipeline, norway doesn't want to, because this clamp is located in norway, in something like the city of tavria, which means they blew it up themselves, they don't want to repair this gas pipeline, that's how i think it will be

the game is now on the part of russia well, what? well, there will be such a game. well, what will change, well, they will not change anything, well, we understand that it will not change, but they expect that now they will raise a wave with their entourage in the european union, which will cover this topic and that it will really be possible to assure someone in the european union that the americans did it. and please tell me what you think, will they continue to supply gas here in the ukrainian style of the generator simply in the system or will they also refuse this european yes, we we are selling, there should be sanctions, there will be just an anti-naftogaz challenge. how serious is this? i think there is a very high chance that they will refuse the services of the ukrainian road transport system. you know that naftogaz has now filed a lawsuit in the appropriate swiss court because gazprom is not fulfilling its contractual obligations . the chip is pumping because gazprom also paid the

same day when the gas pipelines were blown up and said that they are considering the possibility of imposing sanctions on naftogaz, which means that they will not pay for transportation of their gas in the territory of ukraine and then they will deliver ee to ukraine in such an existential way, they will give such a choice if a separate representative pumps, they will again blame ukraine, they will say, you see, they do not want to pump natural gas , but ukraine cannot pump it if it is not paid for, you understand that is, this is a chance. i think, uh, there will be a stop to this introduction, and for that we have to prepare in our operator of the gas transportation system, mr. volodymyr, but when what did they do? what are you saying? leg or even in the head or where is this gas then children if you find it there somewhere on

the border of the smolts you see all the gas being burned eh well look gazprom produces in general in russia it produces 700 billion cubic meters a year of these 700 billion it consumes approximately itself russia, that is, there remains 200 billion in the russian european market for russian gas - it currently amounts to well, if earlier it amounted there to 160 billion, then in october of this month it will amount to no more , no more. more than 20 billion, i.e. by 10 times, it has decreased, time has been reduced by 10 times, the share of russian gas has decreased by a factor of 10, yes, that is, they will definitely burn part of it, these gas wells will choke off the particles,

but this war will be continued until until then , until then, the kremlin, i am sure of it, and so are they. because putin is this person who will only play for promotion, and he has such a calculation that we will overpower him, after all, they are weaklings. we will overpower them, and we have enough effort. is it early late they will be afraid of our energy nuclear blackmail and we will bank, that is, putin is going to the end and this must be understood, there is no logic here - it's just that you already know it, look, and one more such moment well, let's imagine that putin re- well, there, well somehow won, but as long as putin wins in russia, all the quotas will be filled not by russia, but by gas, oil, and diesel, and in fact,

i would absolutely absolutely do something else if they grew bananas for 10 people a day, no, you understand the logic, but a normal person does not understand their logic it is impossible to understand putin and his entourage. he believes that they will crush nato and force the european union to play by nato's rules, and then it will no longer matter whether the energy carrier or energy carriers means, that is, they will force the european union to buy this gas by force if they win in this this is the logic of this existential struggle with nato, that is, they will ban, they will own all of europe, they will

control the european continents, and this is what this victory means for them. well, tell me. do you think that now the europeans will still introduce new sanctions and limit the prices of russian oil, how realistic is this, well, again, many experts now do not quite understand this issue within the limits of this price, which means, uh, look, the european union applied an embargo in june, which means , well, it has made a decision on the application of an embargo on russian oil from december 15 and russian oil products from february 5 of next year. yes, except for hungary, as for those who say price restrictions are not it concerns the market of the european court, there will be an embargo, they simply will not supply oil. and this concerns sea transportation for other countries

by european companies. you understand. here is the point . what is the understanding of many? many journalists and even experts are serious companies, but they do not have such nuances. they understand that there is already an imparga and the price of these only applies to the coalition that wants to form the european union from other countries that are not of the european union so that they limit their actions and synchronize zenbargs of the eu, and they were able to limit prices, too, so to speak, and they were able to limit prices. and who will not comply, then the european union will impose sanctions and appropriate financial sanctions on such companies, insurance companies, and such people, but it does not make russia better off if the european union stops the good buys yes, and the rest

have price restrictions, so money does not reach russia in what amounts, in which we are used to it, that is, they still shoot themselves in the leg or in the head, how did they have such a calculation because of the account when they started this war in energy they started that they won't lose it, but win it because that's why they wouldn't have started it in any other case, that is, they think that sooner or later, it means that european consumers will start to put pressure on their governments that we have such large payments. we can't pay, let's means making some kind of compromises with russia. that's what they're counting on, you know, they believe in it and putin believes in it, that he'll push it with energy blackmail or nuclear blackmail or some other and he's going to the end, you understand here, you just need to clearly understand that putin goes to

the end and here the west can clearly indicate that he can be stopped, only i think the clear position of the west that it will be the end and the end of russia if there are any things connected with nuclear and energy blackmail then some environment may be afraid to stop him he himself will never stop will not stop i'm all one of confusion, well, can't a country that has a maximum of one and a half to two percent of the world's gross domestic product in the best times argue with europe and america and japan and canada and australia, which have more than 60%. maybe you just it’s better not to save money, you know putin, you didn’t think about it, i don’t know well, i’m a very bad economist, that’s right, i know exactly what’s economic and you understand. if putin thought about it, he would have stopped

the war a long time ago, but he didn’t come out, that’s why he’s not he stops it on the contrary - on the contrary, i rock it and will rock it even more and maybe this was an economic collapse, if it will be like this, this faucet is spinning all the time, it is spinning , it can just buy it and break as a result, yes and he is not interested in the collapse there well, there will be russian people there life is a little worse there well, so to speak, he will move there, er, so to say. well, there are three- sort products there and so on. well, he is not interested in that, he will be there with his entourage as he lived and lives, but they are sure that they, i say, they will break, will change nato, the european essence, what they will raise the stakes to such a level that sooner or later nato nato will break, they have a caloric pot, you understand. that is, the more the european union imposes sanctions, the more they

escalate, and the stakes rise every day, and they think something will arrive such a time when nato will not last and it will break and they will win, this logic is very simple here, it is not economic logic, but rather the logic of will, this is a struggle volt, you understand, he and the russians think he thinks that his will is stronger than from the west and we are such truffles absolutely well, that’s it thank you, mr. volodymyr volodymyrovych taras shevchenko, yes, this is interesting. and we have already talked about it, we have a minute left, in fact, we have to say that this is where the logic of nazism really is, but no one said that the west will really break because the west is also beginning to find itself in a situation when in him there is no way out, yes, they were looking for this way out with people, just imagine that biden is calling, even comrade will be wrong, yes, apologize, everything will come to you

, the company will give you a massage . yes, i think further with a goat's education. and really, believe me, mykola. as far as i know this person, he does not understand anything in economics, he just meets on here , minimize er, yes, and we will minimize our er dialogue with you today, dear friends thank you for being with us mykola vitaly portnikov remember all our time now the 21st 23 to 20-23 all the best thank you