such a gazprom will also be there. nord stream is the second company of all representatives. what is it called? they all receive information . if it is expensive, we will say such a pleasure and it really needs such a thing, you know what, they actually stop for two years for such a serious prevention, because without it, it is not possible, that is, an examination of the outside of the pipe, eh externally, we mean from above and from the inside as well, plus here, in principle, such a normal process is currently being actively written about the versions of the explosions all over the world, we analyzed several leading publications according to gardins the times and cnn and let's see what versions they are considering referring to their international experts there the garden writes, referring to experts, that mines could have been installed on the pipes, which were set by divers who arrived alone and could detonate them after a few days or even weeks later, the time writes that russia could

to blow up the northern streams with the help of underwater drones of the ato and even special robots that are engaged in cleaning these pipes that were laid cnnt, referring to two western intelligence officers, writes that russian ships and a submarine were seen near the place of damage to the northern streams, but it is still impossible to claim that these ships have anything to do with the explosions well, it seems to me that to find out, any mass media can now describe any version and it will have the right to exist, because we will probably never find out what happened even well, according to my analysis, when the gas leak will stop and they will raise these pipes to the surface, there will still be different versions, but now we can talk for sure about the fact that four explosions happened, they all happened in different sections of two gas pipelines, and this is one hundred percent like to me , confirmation that the explosions were unnatural

, they were artificial, and here and here the main question arises, who can be the beneficiary of these explosions, because on the one hand, the western world says that it is clearly beneficial to russia, so that to pay fines for unfulfilled contracts , russia comes out on the other side and says that i'm sorry , we invested billions of dollars, we built energy channels in order to make money, and here someone is destroying them, it's not profitable for us, exactly how do we figure it out, who can it be, let's consider all versions yes, who can be made up by the bulacha, who can get something from this, and more about the contracts. that's why in russia this can be an interesting point here, actually, because first of all, this is really an assumption, that is, an assumption because we are still until it is clear what really happened there, uh, we can't talk about the versions at all, and there will be a design really, well, probably sooner than all, in fact, our assumptions about the version, yes, about the fact that there

really was an explosion, how is it all there, let's say that it was fastened then he was delivered there, for example, under the conditions, you and i said that under the conditions, when everyone is watching everyone, as if modern technologies, satellites, etc., yes, i think that it cannot be said that it remained unnoticed, that is, they even mentioned the robot that inspects the pipe, so it is all one has its own number they have now all the chips , that is, gps navigators, as if they were trackers, and therefore it is very easy to say that there it is very easy to remove it, even ships that turn off their gps transponders will open it. you can see them correctly, you say yes, then everyone knows everything, just legally, you cannot provide proof because if we say this, well, let's say such a word, spy, spy work, yes. that is, you cannot provide it in court because you did not have a court sanction, if that is the case on television, as the movies say, but that's the way it is. it's true. who benefits, really? well, besides the fact that ukraine was pointed at , and poland was pointed at, because somewhere

nearby, somewhere there, a new gas pipeline was opened there. that is, there are two sides of russia, the united states, this is the most popular version, let's say this is an assumption, if you look at russia, then i am also here. it is difficult for me to understand the logic of why this should be done. - well, europe refused she herself set such a goal for receiving russian gas, it is declared, uh, russia uh, let's say, cut the supply even before that, through the himalayas, to europe, uh, then through the nord stream, because it was not possible to repair the turbine, uh, well, that's how it turned out, it also turned out very interestingly because canada lifted the sanctions on the repair of turbines, but they sent them to germany, although according to the contract it had to be done in russia, that is, for me it was like this, you know how the word is, the game is like that. that is, we are adults, all of us are adults, if what they receive a good, normal salary , highly qualified, educated, that is, they make such a mistake, that's how things are: russia received these turbines and says that some documents are missing, so we can

, that is, we gave them these trump cards ourselves, you understand, if in their hands , that is, but in any case, if you even look at them, return them. who, after all, blew up this pipe like that how rational is it even if we imagine that russia is doing it like that, blowing up like that , our assumption is that the next question is they should do it in order to really to completely break off relations with europe, or to spit on these 20 billion dollars, well, there is even more to do with everything, if you forget about it and refocus on other markets, because you have to earn money for them, this is a business in which for all countries it is normal to sell gas to earn money or became more expensive in european hubs, look, they don’t sell their pipeline gas in the hubs, they sell gas under contracts where the price today is $354, it is tied to oil according to the formula, that is, in fact, on the exchange from the price they sell there from the percentage of 20 is that these are the countries that take this gas, that is, there is a reason why they often reduce the purchase of gas because it really is in the contract, for example, you take 60% according to the contract, 40% you take at the price of the hub. there

is $2,000. and here you are. you understand that it is expensive. you bought that gas at a good price, and at a high price you say yes. no, we don't need it. we'll somehow get by there. yes, seriously, the economy is like that, so in principle, if you look at the fact that there are 180 billion european well , 190 european and turkish markets, yes, european gas 150, that is, the question is good, there are none of these even 50-5 billion e.e. of russian gas through the nord stream, the second, well, the nord stream, the first, the second stream, did not even start working, by the way , it did not even start working, but the first ones. also, that is, it is not there, that is, go out, reorient the gas to another market, it will take years, the only market is the asian market, today it is objectively asian, the power of siberia, the power of siberia, two that they plan to build and there are none contracts are mostly built, a gas pipeline is built , and immediately at least a memorandum is signed so that you know what you have, well, you don't just really throw money away, so you can say

unequivocally that you know, well, how often do you know how people think about russians, so if well, they are interesting people they describe what they still have there. maybe yes , but there will be some, you know. well, it's hard for me to say whether it's not a voiceover, so all these arguments that you give are arguments that russia is now giving. of course, it turns out that we did not benefit, of course but if we start looking for logic in the actions of russia at the beginning of the war here over the last month, we will not find it, so i say that it is difficult for me to say that this principle is really possible. yes, it also worked here. if you look at the united states, then the united states of america immediately very simple explanation yes, yes, they want to sell their languagas on the european market more than they blew up the russian gas pipeline, there is no freeing of the gas market yes logically everything is fine to the first argument they did not work these lawns in the first place they didn’t work for the second time, you see, look, it’s not such a large amount of u.s. lg gas, yes , they increased it for e

. 70 billion 80 billion of exports to europe, and they exported somewhere around there, well, up to 50, that is, they have there, well, not twice there, well, now billions of cubic meters, this is approximately the same capacity of the northern one in any house, plus or minus, well but all the same, it is possible to say that for the sake of it there is to commit such an act yes, for example, while i repeat that the same russia is already coming out there today and saying that we already have something there, we have collected something there, as they showed some people there we have already found this question, maybe at the end of the streams, it is just a question , really, what in the conditions after all, well, as i say, today’s powerful technical capabilities. yes, i think that there will be traces, of course there will be traces. who will see these traces? yes, and who will not see them? this is of course an open question, so in any case, in any case see the important point is this i saw this and i can agree with it and that in fact this is not an accident. this is true. i am inclined to believe that it was really an external military intervention, yes. that is, this is a very negative

process in general, which starts, you know, like the domino effect, yes. but the second one does not fall, that is, we can see the situation . i would he didn't even say now, what are you there and the european contender is the president, the president, yes, and the ukrainian goethe is threatening it now, well, like gazprom, the same day or the next day, somehow they made a mistake, they came out of the statement and they are there, everything else is there, the point is, naftogaz submitted e that they do not fulfill their obligations to pay for transit well, sokhraniv says that they have closed the direction from there, gas is not withheld, and gazprom said that this would not be in accordance with the actions of the contract. swedish and sweden is where swedish law stipulates in the contract that these are unfriendly countries for russia, now they say that if the court decisions, well, they will question them, well, to put it mildly, you can

say that in general, they can not recognize that, accordingly, it was about sanctions that they put the word sanctions is this the cessation of gas transit, this can happen , yes, that is, in principle, what you say is a threat to us, yes, this is the main risk of the heating season . yes, this is what we are waiting for. to the gas transportation system when russia raised the pressure . without declaring this information, the pressure in the pipe could have come to an accident and an accident could have happened. there was another story like that on the ukrainian lawn. well , the operator d said that, and what’s more, we just saw that most likely the problem was really is that larger volumes of gas should have gone to suja, but there also to suja, this is the sumy direction. that is, there is suja and the sumy region and the luhansk region. the compressor station, that is, naftogaz refused to accept this gas from there, and because of the judge, in principle, the russians. as far as i know, this is also all open information. they really are, well, look. they

were preparing for what we started talking about in this bypass gas pipelines, that is, they did not just build and a they left it to themselves so that everything would continue. they closed the compressor stations, that is, they took them down, literally speaking. that is, even if there was an idea now to restore and increase the supply of gas, physically there would be nothing to do that is, there are no compressors, that’s just the question, that is, in fact, we are there. we are transiting 40 billion according to the contract. in principle, we can no longer parasitize . in the context of the fact that the eu has publicly announced that they are gradually renouncing russian gas, they are energy independent and how to consider these events in the context of the energy independence of europe, we will talk in a few minutes on the first of october day of zaporizhzhia ukraine is an unwavering project of kateryna

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sabotage terrorist attack mysterious explosions in the northern the stream here is interesting to dwell on when exactly it happened, on what day the opening of the new gas pipeline between norway and poland actually took place. it was very well presented in the media, and it was accompanied by the statements of mother shamarovetskyi that we are actually completing the stage of disconnecting the energy systems of europe from russia , and these explosions are taking place here. if we talk about the energy independence of europe from russian gas, we know the statements of german chancellor scholz that germany cannot give up of russian gas even in the conditions of war, but at the same time there is a global position of the eu that ah, not now, but step by step we will move away from russian gas every day from russian and in the context of the energy independence of europe,

what does this event affect, well, the baltic pipe - it's simple. let's say it's a different story, because first of all, it's a gas pipeline that already existed. it was added from the norwegian ordovician deposits and the gas went to denmark. then the idea was actually realized to lay it to poland and then first, its volume is small, 10 billion cubic meters, that is, it is incomparable, and it is enough for poland. in principle, poland imported, roughly speaking, 14 billion cubic meters, mostly not with russia, but they took it from gazprom. then they began to switch, they began to take gas from germany right away, russian. only if it was called the same german, you know, reverse gas, that’s how we are there . polish words. very similar. well, at least this was the formal position, and they had the goal of poland to really minimize dependence on russian gas. they built the lg terminal in their minds the terminal is originally designed for 5 billion cubic meters of gas, and out of 50 billion , this basically covers their needs. well, the

other question is whether these 10 billion cubic meters will be there. this is an open question. first of all, there is no contract. that is. well, you built a contract. there's no reason, there's no proof , they don't want to sign uh. well, let's say this, according to the new contracts, how do you say because they don't have the resource , that is, practically, even today, when they uh, literally a month ago, they thawed nine deposits i.e. licenses or rather why them they were frozen, relatives are sitting down, one of them is reeded, such a well-known field is huge, we froze it because there was a decrease in production there and it became more expensive to extract this gas, it was simply not profitable for them to extract it, and they moved to other deposits, they explored, they explored, but nothing happened they did not particularly find. that is, they reached their peak in the 17th year , they reached 125 billion in norwegian production, but such a gas country is relatively young, yes. if you say so, that is, they began to increase the pace not only in the 80s, but already in the 77th year they started production on the north sea shelf and they, accordingly, today are not if let’s say so, will they have the opportunity to give this lord because if

there is no northern stream, you and i said that if there is no gas, there is no russian gas and now there is only norwegian gas well, because the turkish stream ukraine as would it be southern europe, italy, or southeastern europe, and western europe, northern europe, then it will fight for this norwegian gas, and who will win in this fight, the poles, for example, is there also germany, for example, there is france and belgium well, this is an open question, that is, that is why this is a problem , uh, in general, if uh, let's say that the crisis, so what is there in europe, what do you say that really what they set will reduce yes, i think they will draw conclusions, of course, from the war in ukraine is from this global crisis. yes, well, not to describe it as a point, everything has changed there and they will go along the path of really uh. let's say this is the search for alternative gas. well, it will be a very long way , it won't be a year there or two. you understand, it will be a long time . well, here too e z is entering the arena in the united states with its liquefied gas with the fact that in europe there was no popularity of the construction of these terminals that

liquefy this gas, this solves the issue tactically, that is, the main thing for europe now is to survive this winter, yes, everyone understands that until next winter, europe will be able to find alternative ways of gas supply and build the necessary infrastructure for liquefied gas, but europe can get through this winter without russian gas, i don’t know, that is, i think that it will only be due to savings on the population, because the population is the main consumer of gas in general is 60% of this gas, and industry consumes only 20% of gas in general, and industry in any case is already saving - metallurgical plants, they do not squeeze much gas, well, a lot of well -known companies that work in ukraine have also closed they are presented there in europe, they closed their factories there, they stopped it, the question is different, you understand

, look at this alternative, so find liquefied gas. of the terminals that exist later. this is from the sea, they come to the sea, and then this gas must be delivered, roughly speaking, to. the branches go to the places where it is needed, where there is industry, where there are large enterprises there, too, it will take more than one year to rebuild all of this, really. you are asking about winter, is it winter, do you worry about europe in winter or not, the question has always been that there was direct gas from the pipe, and from norway, which we talked about from russia, that is, it is actually 30% of gas, even more in recent years, that is, direct gas from the pipe, that is, lg gas it is not direct, it comes periodically, plus if there is a problem of a shortage of tankers, their reservation , insurance, all this is also imposed, it is well,

let’s say that the math is not easy, so it is easy to say that it will be easy to find a replacement for this turbo-conducting gas. with russian gas, don't be too serious, we are transiting russian gas. that is, it turns out that europe will freeze and remain ukrainian - this is a storage facility, but it is closed because there are russian troops and a cooperator station in novopsk. well, we talked with you, i told you that zaporizhia npp , which was yes, it is not working now, it has stopped operating. well, from march to august, for a month , it worked for almost two months. we are growing ukraine's electricity under control. of the russian army, in fact, yes, ukrenergo was given commands , and they executed them. hoh-mah-hoh-hum they also fulfill the contract

yes, conditionally yes, but they submit applications there, they submit every day there, well, conditionally, every day with applications they say we are ready, then you don’t want it, you understand, it’s like ukraine well, what are you talking about? the capacity of the united states to export liquefied gas is approximately 70 billion cubic meters for europe. well, this is a maximum, but this is a volume that is actually 50% of the 140 billion that sound like the needs of the european of the union yes, i understand yes it is russian, that gas is russian by a russian person yes, it is half of russian gas 70 billion see what i mean when, for example, that gas will mainly go to the european market and this is gas that also goes to the asian market, that is, in fact, look at the first half of the 22nd year. yes, there was also a lockdown in china , and they also significantly reduced the consumption of gas, accordingly, this gas went to europe, american, now they are all sitting at a low start and waiting, if only begins to grow, er, well, in china, in south korea, mainly

and this gas will go there, it was always sharpened. price well when 3,900 did not become here yes on the european market and when the price became high in europe even those $ 1,500. oh, it’s great, you can run this business. of course, this can be understood because american gas is, in principle, expensive in terms of its cost, it’s basically really the production of shale deposits. yes, for example, it is subsidized by the state and dates back to the usa. well , the producer itself is supported. in the end, it’s great. i think it’s ok. well, if there only if you look at what it is if such a job and workplaces and so on, therefore, in principle, say what it is will close the question unequivocally, you can’t use american ones, after all, pipeline gas is the only option for such, you know, stable supplies , the closest country to the european union . and they are waiting for the business of the world, yes, everything will stabilize, and it will be possible to wipe everything there

while driving, turn on the gas, put gas in it, uh, that is, there are such expectations uh, from the abolition of this dependence on russia on the issue of gas the plane completely refused part of the gas consumption and the transition to another alternative yes, but let's go back to the accident, yes, the swedish seismologists have already conducted a study and we recorded an exclusive comment, they say that you are bobul with a power of 2.3 points and compare it with a powerful explosive of the second world war during those times and here we recorded the comment of björn lund, a swedish seismologist at the swedish national education center, let's listen, the swedish national seismic network recorded two explosions near of the northern gas pipeline, one flow is in the southeast of the remote island of bornholm and one in the northeast of this island. we managed to determine that these explosions did not occur as a result of an earthquake, they are not movements of the underwater bottom, but explosions.

now we are also investigating the possibility that the second explosion is actually two explosions that happened in a short period of time on the northern island of bronchol, for now we can only say that it was an explosion, our data indicates that it is two or three explosions that we are investigating, but we cannot say what exactly detonated, we don't have any information that showed us what happened, we can compare the size of the explosions to other data, and these are very preliminary conclusions. we are not yet fully convinced, but we can first say that it is equivalent to 100 or 200 kg of tnt. on for the next broadcasts, when will this gas come out, when experts will get the fragments of the pipes and be able to analyze something, we will talk about it, but i want to return to my native ukraine. about what we should do with the approaching winter, we understand that russia can play some kind of dirty game with our

gas transportation system and we somehow we have to get through this winter that in ukraine the issue of preparation and readiness for this winter in the issue of providing us with gas, we understand the infrastructure, they can destroy any of our chp plants we don't have anything to discuss here. but as for the issue of readiness to provide gas, well, in general, why should we really put the issue of the military aside ? because this risk is any day, any second, and for the energy infrastructure in the village, we are in we are ready in principle, that is, we even have 15 billion planned to pump underground storage, we will definitely pump a little more than 14 billion - 14.5 coal will be almost 2.5 million, as if it is enough, everything would seem great, yes, the issue of gas again rests on the transit of russian gas, that is, if it exists, then we fought for 12 billion. well, under the condition of a decline in the economy. unfortunately, the industry has a population of 14. well, if the transit stops, then the heat will begin, as they say. yes, only the opposite. yes, in quotes

, that is, the cold. to save very significantly on this statement of the government. yes, they are so sad, but so realistic. yes, it seems to me that it could be 16° colder there. this is a problem in the industry. plus, if you understand, you say so. i think it should be said. well, you don’t want to. you know what? then they said that someone there, someone there knew something or someone this, but such an accident can also happen in ukraine, for example, with explosions and everything on the gps, that is, i don't know this, but what we said is that it's like dominoes, so somewhere it happened today, there tomorrow, it can it is very important for the president to take place here it's dangerous, it's a risk, it's basically the domain of military armies, law enforcement agencies, yes, that is, i think it's also a key issue, for example, that's why there will be an important moment, whether the transit of rural gas will be preserved if it is not preserved, if it is turned off by any method or human factor yes, or it will simply be a political decision, an economic one for gazprom, since they basically announced sanctions, for example, what do they call it, then really, then the gas will simply stop and then the problem will be that we will hide it from the underground

we will shout to the east to the west oh to the east to the center south and this, well, it will not be enough, it may not be enough, we will save, then everyone, if the entire population should be morally ready for this , just about the next years, in order to survive this year, it turns out like they are years, yes this year we will survive this very europe. by the way, let it be possible to survive this one, you know, squeeze in somewhere, squeeze in, limit yourself, but what will next year be, in general, the heating season is more precisely 20, already the third year of the 24th year. so it can be more difficult in fact because, again, that gas resource, yes, it has to be taken somewhere. well, plus, after all, the political situation, yes , the military economic situation also affects well, yes , here we can’t forecast my uh, the period of forecasts is now reduced to one, a few days, because we see that what happened to the northern currents, no one expected it, but it creates and sets off a certain chain of events, let's hope that ukraine will be bypassed by difficulties this winter , and our gas transport and energy thermal system of heat supply will be preserved and, well, well

regime this winter night watch nataliya ostrovska i and yuriy korolchuk from hanplit were visiting the director of the institute of energy strategies take care of the heat insulate homes unconquered cities of ukraine is the cossack town of okhtyrka, which is proud of its temples and the miraculous icon of the mother of god, when okhtyrka was invaded by moscow, the city had to cover its borders with itself in the endless wars , for a short time there was hope for a peaceful life as part of the ukrainian state, in krasnaya, the holodomorah was avenged, the enslaved earth and the cossack spirit helped people to save themselves and the city today

okhtyrka is again standing on the treacherous shield on the border of good and evil, this time for the country to which her soul actually belongs okhtyrka undefeated for more than six months russia is waging a bloody war against ukraine and the ukrainian people they are killing ukrainian men , women and children she is 3,000 athletes went to war defending their country, more than 100 of them lost their homes, the russians have already destroyed 111 sports facilities, including one of the largest current centers, the unifeg club in kharkiv none a russian or belarusian athlete did not speak out against russian aggression, the testing calls on the entire world community to prevent russian and

belarusian athletes from receiving official knowledge of fencing we insist that they be able to participate in international tournaments only after the end of this bloody war and the victory of ukraine wherever you are were you, you can be with those who need it, buy medicine for lyudmila petrivna, help svetlana, who ran away with one bag, find them on the portal and close by they are waiting for your help, each embroidered symbol is a symbol of the indomitability and revival of ukraine, we will heal our wounds, we will decorate the scars with flowers,

the ukrainian destiny will bloom again, like poppies in the field, ukraine will be embroidered. answer and dalliance about an important day in history in the final issue of tsn on friday , september 30, this is a marathon, the only news and channel 1+1, new threats with nuclear weapons and citations of the nazi a philosopher from the family who encrypted in his manic speech