yes, at the white house yesterday, jake sullivan , the national security adviser to the us president, said that this issue should be resolved at another time, and i personally got the impression, well, in view of similar answers, that this decision of ours by the ukrainian authorities was not previously communicated about articulated with by our western partners, that it is possible that this statement caught them by surprise, did it not seem so to you? preliminary consultations with nato regarding this application, please a-a thank you for the question i believe that in fact yesterday a historic event took place when the representatives of the three branches of government - this is the president, this is the parliament - this is the cabinet of ministers signed the e-e application for admission if you and i were e-e under other conditions, i would also talk about the need to follow procedures because any international institution has clear

regulations and procedures that we will be forced to follow no matter what we want there, but in this case after the large-scale invasion of ukraine after really proving by our armed forces and our military leadership the ability to stop even the powerful army of the world, i am sure that this statement has an absolute logical basis with regard to the further implementation of reforms to bring us closer to the nato standards, restoring or not slowing down as a minimum of all other institutions, including anti-corruption ones, this is our homework, which we will be given anyway , but given the fact that this happened and that this application was submitted, that it is really an exemplary example of the accelerated accession procedure in finland and sweden and you and i already know that ukraine today is a

counterattack to the security of the euro-atlantic space , already today we protect those values ​​on which the nato freedom alliance is built, so i think we should support this application, we should try to sew de jure the process of ukraine's accession to nato, and i am sure that despite the huge threat that our state and our people are facing today, this threat is also a huge opportunity for us, which gives and allows us to get the status of e-e for joining the european union and apply because today we are protecting the values ​​on which the european union is built. in any case, if you

take a dry analysis of the statements of our partners, then it really has confirmation, but should we expect or, conventionally speaking, to communicate exclusively through diplomatic channels today, this is the question. i think not , because the ukrainian people have an absolute right to talk about our entry about our path that we have chosen, this is the path of european integration - this is the path of euro-atlantic integration, and that is why i am sure that we have the right to submit a similar application . plus or minus, it meets the criteria to join the north atlantic alliance, that after this application, i am asking for a standard, you know, there is no such generalized , general, permanent procedure, and there is the question of whether the country initially received so the so-called membership action plan, but i want to remind

you that from the 14th, through the 15th, we are carrying out the so-called annual national program, which, in principle, can be a reflection of the membership action plan, because it partially brought ukraine closer according to the criteria presented to us forced it to carry out the necessary reforms and, accordingly, the act of e-e to approach the e-e submission of the application. that is , we had our annual national program, we did not receive but hope that it was dosed because if internal political discords internal inhibitions of the implementation the reforms will be carried out at the er highest level still bleat er executive or er there other authorities where i will specify now, then you and i will be in this long-term waiting room not for months and years, but we can be there ten years ago by submitting

an application we on the one hand, we declared our desire , which was confirmed, including the constitution of our country, and on the other hand, we again took on huge obligations. yes, we pay a huge price for our aspirations. but we should not stop on the path of reforms, because whatever - what rapprochement with such institutions as nato and the eu requires responsibility and compliance with these institutions ms. iryna, regarding the world's reaction to our application and yesterday's speech by jans stoutenberg, we see that several countries and even blocs of countries respond positively to this and we are ready to consider this entry of ours as soon as possible, if i am not mistaken, the first such country was canada, and then the baltic countries worked out a consolidated position. the most popular politician wrote about this in

germany, who allegedly remarked that of course we should support ukraine and the door to nato should really be open, but we should not, after all, enter the stage of direct confrontation between nato and the russian federation. where and in which tony ms. anna olena said, knowing russian pseudo-colleagues, they could and would in any case twist the reaction of the countries that are members of the north atlantic alliance, how positive do you think it will be on our benefit and who can say no or hinder us in this process, it will be different. i am sure of this , because the decision to accept a new member is always enough of a discussion, and i am sure that the russian federation will use all its leverage mechanisms to the maximum influence

on, including the politicians of the nato member countries in order to create a negative background to create a background of non-acceptance by the alliance of ukraine 's applications. we should go our own way because this is the development of our state and only nato can guarantee our security, as far as the so-called moderate politicians in various countries are concerned, in fact, including in the usa, who will talk about the fact that it can, in what way, again, uh, you know, disrupt the coils of the russian federation, i would like to say that this country has long since lost its coils, that the only way to protect the democratic civilized world from

the aggressor country of russia is the dismantling of the russian federation, the integration of this country as a conglomerate as long as the russian federation exists on the geographical map of the world, it will constantly carry a threat to all civilized countries , therefore we will now have both support and moderate evaluation judgments of various representatives , including possibly popular ones, but i would like to address to everyone, what we have to do is our own way, we have to go our own way, which we have chosen, and we will overcome it if we do not stop, what security guarantees can our western partners give us before the process of full-scale accession ukraine to nato and should they give? i think that they are already giving us because the support of our

armed forces of ukraine, the support and cooperation of our intelligence agencies with partner countries prove the effectiveness of our cooperation even now , we -e we have and want even more and in fact it is necessary not only to protect ukraine, it is necessary in order to stop the russian federation. that is , we need more weapons, we need tougher sanctions, we need from our partners a total refusal of consumption energy resources to the aggressor countries, and this is the way we will be able to approach the defeat of the russian federation in this war. thank you marina fris, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the committee on national security and defense of the previous convocation of the former minister, who was in contact with us for veterans' affairs thank you, and let us remind you that the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine warns that

belarus is preparing places for the placement of 20,000 mobilized from the russian federation, and the bulba and latushko says that lukashenko has agreed to deploy russian troops in belarus in various amounts, we are talking about up to 120,000 and airfields and railways are also in the preparatory stage and the belarusian district and the general staff of ukraine do not neglect this information in the morning of the evening belarusian public figure adviser svitlana tikhanovskaya is with us on the connection of francs, we congratulate you glory to ukraine long live belarus glory to the heroes, do you really think that putin pressed lukashenka like that and should we expect i am asking lukashenka for the next advance of russian troops from the territory of the republic of belarus in february of this year, when the war began, and lukashenka's name was written as a collaborator, as an aid, as

an accomplice in all hostilities, everything that is happening now is already the development of these february events, lukashenka is now playing the role such a large, exclusive, loyal ally votes like putin , acts like putin and gives everything putin wants , but the entry into the war of the belarusian military is already from the second opera because it depends not only on from lukashenka, it is one thing to send lukashenka to abkhazia to recognize the self-proclaimed republic, and it is another thing to force a thousand belarusians to fight and die for lukashenko and putin, and it is not so easy here, and that is why i think that we need to prepare for all options for all possible scenarios of the development of events, but i personally, i do not see why the belarusian army should fight and who should fight in the belarusian army for putin , they can say as much as they want about the fact that we went we will start, but i do not think that the belarusians will actually pass and even that this mobilization

even when it is announced that it will take place until the 20th, the 22nd year, and the army was disbanded by the belarusians. and now they are sending it somewhere , this is just some kind of appearance of the belarusian military to help the russians fight in ukraine , we are talking about the use of the infrastructure deployment of a large number of russian troops , nevertheless, we understand that these are two completely different processes and would have completely different consequences. in your opinion, how will our application affect the situation with lukashenka and his position in general on joining nato, for example, does it have any significance for the belarusian dictator now , eh, there we are talking about two things: the participation of the belarusian military and the deployment of the russian military

, this information that appeared on the networks a couple of days ago, eh, regarding the arrival of the russian military it is clear that they have reserved slots and this stay is possible in the next 2-3 weeks and they will use the belarusian infrastructure as in february and potentially take part in some combat operations, and the second is the issue of belarusian mobilization regarding joining nato, i think that everything ukraine has done in the last two weeks is this, well , it cannot be called the turning point of the war. that putin will lose. well, the second accession to nato, even though lukashenka promised that there would be no nato here, and the ukrainians would come to their senses and return to slovyansk, three slavic peaces,

he said that in march or april, too i'm already devastated and just hmm, i'm so proud of ukrainians that they simply destroyed in one moment and we about the invincible putin and about the fact that the ukrainians will surrender and return to the so- called slavic brotherhood ah, morning, tell me, did you touch on this topic about the visit of the president of belarus to, well, the self- proclaimed president of belarus, how do you say to the occupied it also caused a wave of indignation in abkhazia, part of georgia, and in georgia and in the european union, it was condemned by european diplomats. what was the purpose of this visit? well, before he did not allow himself to visit such a thing , well, it’s the same. if he were to come, for example, to

crimea, he would say that he should not erase it from the map of the earth. it seems that’s exactly what he said about abkhazia while he was there. and the annexation of crimea and the so -called independent republic there, the dpr of the lpr and before, but he never de facto indicated this, did not come, did not meet, because this is significantly the end for him. and this put him on more than one level with this person. and he wants to have the status of an exclusive ally, that's why he found such a hybrid format, and after sochipolita went to abkhazia, he thereby proved his loyalty and loyalty to putin, and putin is satisfied that well done lukashenka, shepherds, he wanted it then this is what i want from all servicemen first of all well and what will happen next, we don't know because we don't know what they were talking about, he can

fly to dpr and lpr, now he can also to zaporizhzhia , maybe even to crimea, you don't know zaporizhzhia is under the control of ukraine. this is my hometown so you don't p- at most to melitopol or kirillivka, he can fly to the sea of ​​azov there, i 'm afraid he likes to swim together with putin in one direction eh he can fly away and not come back and eh and the belarusians will say thank you to the ukrainians eh the armed forces of ukraine and everyone in everyone will be happy. lukashenko will drag out as much as possible in hostilities and the accession of belarus and take such symbolic steps as from this abkhazia to demonstrate loyalty. so it is a good idea if he flew from zaporizhzhia to conduct take it on someone it is possible to exchange one lukashenka for how many ukrainian prisoners of christ, of course, putin's best man

if he were at least a relative and yes, yes, the union state and he is the president of a state that is part of the single union i think you can exchange a lot for lukashenka a lot, a lot for lukashenka putin is very necessary you have you you say correctly, because now putin has no other allies, so and so they voted like putin, who appeared in the media , repeated everything and for putin, lukashenko is a gift of fate and he will hold on to him until at the end thank you franik for joining our broadcast separately thanks for your incredible ukrainian language we promise uh, at least from my side uh, it's like alaverda and i'll teach you a little belarusian in the morning shepherd belarusian public figure advisor svitlana tikhanovskaya was with us in touch well, we go further and continue to analyze the most important thing, in particular, the world's reaction to russia's attempts to annex the occupied territories of ukraine, and all civilized countries said that it was

practically impossible, but kept their positions on some sites, i would say that they even held their positions and highlighted their positions china, india aa in particular and brazil if i am not mistaken but sometimes silence does not mean consent, so i think that in the near future in some a-a maybe diplomatic steps or again after all, in economic relations, it will become more clear to us on which side and which values ​​the above- mentioned countries adhere to, and volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center for international studies, associate professor of the department of international relations , is in touch with us right now odesa national university named after mechnikov p. volodymyr, we welcome you glory to ukraine good morning i congratulate you with heroes glory to ukraine nato does not recognize any of the annexed territories as part of the russian federation countries that are not

part of the north atlantic alliance are signaling in principle, however , one question has been bothering me for the second day well ok, let's say that the kherson zaporizhzhia region is in the format and in the volume in which putin partially captured it there and quickly glued some parts to russia of the luhansk donetsk region were ruled by russia for years. what prevented the annexation of these territories to the russian federation earlier, why were these enclaves needed if you could simply expand your jurisdiction over them, as was done in crimea, mr. volodymyr, i am your answer to this question , the situation is such that they then were between russia and ukraine. the best option was to get a low-intensity conflict there and, uh, because of that, weaken ukraine and try to

return them on russia's terms through the minsk process and this satisfied them more because ukraine was weakened and sovereignty was undermined, all these uh-uh regions would have a certain veto on decisions regarding there, let's say, rapprochement with the european union . there is nothing wrong with this process. he decided to act on a larger scale, as we can see, and therefore, already with such conditions, he uses this referendum and this nexia as a protective mechanism in order to get them with his control against the ukrainian offensive as a signal of the west, as we see , and he constantly reminds us of nuclear weapons, as we, as we hear. and what is necessary or not necessary to help ukraine liberate the territories, that is, he is trying to push a little . as they say, change the rules of the game now, and start a new stage of aggression to say that now it is already a defensive war for us rather. although, by the way, you said correctly, they also say

that they will capture its oxidized individual regions like bakhmut, let's say. that is, the entire donetsk region, they do not even say that they will stop offensive actions now, but de-facto we see that they are not conducting active and are not capable of conducting active offensive actions, at least for the time being. therefore, this is just a new one, this is an attempt to outsmart this war, which has already entered into a stupor, and he will still understand that it is deaf there is no other way for them to get out , but only to come up with something like this, a partial mobilization that does not turn into a partial one, it is quite a continuous total mobilization, and we recognize the referendum, but as for the event, here it is important that they do not recognize what they are now they say, that is, what they will do together, how to punish russia for these days, how to help ukraine, or do they agree that ukraine has the right to liberate these lands, and therefore they have a large-scale system to help us even more than before, this is the main question regarding the coalition of our allies in the west last

year, regarding the reaction of the west to these referendums, how satisfied are you with it? 14 people related to the russian military-industrial complex, including two international suppliers, close relatives of some russian officials and 278 members of the russian parliament, are subject to charges for enabling fake referendums, a quote from russia and an attempt to annex sovereign ukrainian territory, along with this, the eu and the european council are simply determined condemned the annexation , they said that we resolutely reject it without reservation, we condemn it and support it, it is the territory of ukraine and we will never recognize it as another and no referendum, but somewhat like that well, it's a little bit if we're honest. let's put it this way. are

you satisfied with such a reaction and what do you think it could be in reality, if it were really the countries of the european union and the united states? 8 years there in part of the territory and ukraine, then in the end it may not stay. god forbid, please. yes, the law did not call me. i see it wrong. there are three levels of reaction. the main reaction is still waiting to be seen and analyzed. next weeks, months, the first level of reaction is just this diplomatic and formal condemnation of criticism of russia, non-recognition of nexia , this is different. even those who are leaning towards russia. whether it is between russia and us or the west, they are simply silent, and it is also not bad that they do not

support russia, that russia is almost completely isolated here, except for some very exotic countries that are not quite democratic, to put it mildly, the second level is uh, sanctions against russia, uh, i don't see these sanctions as some kind of new nuclear ones in quotes. that is, what kind of sanctions will really seriously harm russia, these are they. they are rather symbolic and mostly the sanctions are what they are. could lead that in their opinion they should weaken russia, they are already leading, and i personally never believed in them personally, because i do not think that any member of the russian parliament will suffer from the fact that they are personally imposed on him such sanctions and they have never gone anywhere and so on and hide them at home or in a russian bank in their money and not somewhere there in the western bank. but still, it is possible for the economy, energetically, it is possible to work if our western

partners really agree on limiting the price of let's say russian oil, it will be more painful, but we will see, but the main thing is whether they really agree to help us liberate this territory, whether they were not afraid of putin's nuclear blackmail, or whether they will continue to give us money and weapons, in particular, weapons which will help us to continue our offensive and liberation from these territories, this will be the main test. and we will see this in just a few weeks and even months, whether the votes of those in the west who say, well, okay, let's give 20 percent of all ukraine, the loss is so much compared to with what it lost in the 14th year, let it not. makes the ukrainian war just, it is a war for european security, it is in all of us, and that is why we must help liberate these territories for this purpose, and then send some money, some weapons,

and other financial aid to our economy, this will be a real test and we will see. and very often it is necessary to look not only at uh, some major such blatant events, yes, but also at these news that follow after them, and uh, uh, you just made a very appropriate remark, it will be necessary to look at whether the west was frightened or whether it will continue us in the future to support a-a after yesterday president zelensky demonstrated that ukraine is applying to nato after yesterday we listened to a very reserved speaker from toltenberg or someone was waiting for some kind of sensation somewhere and the united states just quietly, but they announced that they are already working on the next emergency package, that is, not the one that will be in a few years, but aid, in particular, and weapons . as i understand it, these are extremely positive signals for ukraine.

the meeting in the rammstein format is already the sixth reznikov , the minister of defense of ukraine announced good news , volodymyr, in your opinion, is the rammstein format going to a qualitatively new level in our country since in- based on the event. for example, yesterday. can we count on more more support or countries will still rely solely on their own capabilities on the er on the fullness of their own warehouses more here is a really interesting point regarding stautenberg by the way, i believe that he expressed his position always clearly, by the way, in the last months ago, he made one of the most emotional speeches about ukraine. who did you say then that you see that you are worried about how much you will pay for heat and gas there and so on? in europe, you live in moderation, you are not attacked, sprayed , bombs are not dropped. and ukrainians now they are paying for

their freedom with their lives and that is why there is a big difference here, we have to support ukraine, and secondly , it is very important that america defeats us in the system in such a way, and because of the fact that they are constantly increasing the pressure on russia, because if they proved, let's say together all the money, and he gave and forgot everything and so every week or together for two weeks i give something and it reminds us that their course does not change and it is nerve-wracking, it psychologically oppresses us with music. the contact group of the prohibition of ukraine formal name yes and will they go to a new level now the americans are trying to convince their european partners that ukraine should be given modern weapons and many weapons in the future a-a because such countries will agree to such and such a proposal with such an opinion washington and we will reduce this, so far formally there are 50 countries, i am not mistaken , rammstein participates in this format, but we understand that there

are many countries that are only formally there they do not help us much, but there are several such powerful ones that can give more, but let's see if it really is yesterday, let's say, macron condemned this annexation, of course, it was absolutely foreseen, but france did not give so many weapons, and france is one of the largest producers of weapons in the world. the new europe could definitely give more or will they give now let's see, i say that this will be the main test that we will observe him, will he pass the test, will he pass this exam with a good grade or not or if not, if not, it still depends on him alone without weapons, then well, how will we do what which as a weapon, it is the consequences . we won't say goodbye to you at lunch, but on eva melnyk

, i'm ready to present an information release, please. thank you, colleagues, for your work. the news editor is still working on the most important things. in a few moments, in particular, i will tell you about the fact that the russian nazis shelled mykolaiv, a three-month-old baby was wounded among them, twice under enemy fire there were five people among them three in mykolaiv