unconquered cities of ukraine kryvyi rih the iron heart of ukraine and the longest city in europe, its man-made landscapes attract guests and industrial tourism is actively developing in the city kryvyi rih lands were part of the zaporizhian army, the central governing body of kish zaporizhia sich was located in the city during archaeological excavations in balka day ukrainian archaeologist oleksandr paul - discovered the remains of smelting furnaces, which indicate that metallurgy was still practiced here by the scythians during the years of nazi occupation. popular resistance introduced the official use of the

ukrainian language and anthem. ukraine and glory and will are not dead yet, because even under enemy fire , the people of kryvyi rih fearlessly work, help and defend independence, because in addition to an iron heart, they also have the steel cossack character. for the right way of life, this is the first time that ukrainians receive this award, and now oleksandr is in touch with us . i congratulate you. good day, oleksandr. if i didn't have you i have known for many years and did not know your human rights activities, the very name of the award for the right lifestyle would indicate to me that you are engaged in a healthy lifestyle in some sense, human rights activities are also about a healthy lifestyle

, but you can decipher for me and for the audience what the award means for the right way of life, this prize is awarded to people who , in the opinion of the organizers and the swedish parliament, should have been awarded the nobel prize, but for various reasons were either not nominated or did not receive and the initiators of this award promote the paths and lives of people who bring this world some value, whether it is ecology or democracy or human rights, and returning to the beginning of our conversation, i want to say that in the countries of our region, human rights activity is a very unhealthy activity, many of my colleagues sit in prisons in different countries and are under persecution, well, the nobel prize is distinguished by the fact that it gives a serious financial reward to its laureates, which they are already free to spend on anything, this prize for the right

the way of life also has some financial dimension. is it rather an honor for the sake of an honor, does it have a financial choice, frankly, i don't remember what amount is awarded, well, it's typical for me, but there is no difference. the team and i will discuss how to make sure that you the funds we receive serve people well, you and the team mean the center for civil liberties, because you, as the head of this center, are the most well-known in this human rights field, right. yes, i meant the team of the center for civil liberties, because that's what we do it's all a team result, and the organizers explained that this award is awarded based on the totality of your activities or for some specific case where you distinguished yourself and did something extraordinary. it's difficult for me to say because i don't know who nominated me and how the process of this

competition was, and the wording with which i they informed me that i became a rower with the award, it was in two parts, the first - it was for the development of democratic institutions in ukraine and the promotion of reforms, and the second part - it was an invitation to new mechanisms responsibility for war crimes, this development of democratic institutions is something that is very often talked about in ukraine. how do you assess the state of development of these institutions now, especially during the war, and is it assessed as a huge challenge that we have to overcome the usual nobody wants to deal with the modernization of ukraine during the war, but we will not have such luxury, we will defend and defeat the russian federation in parallel and move along the path of european integration and fulfill all the necessary requirements and standards in order to rebuild

the life of society is such that where the rights of every person are protected, where justice is independent, where the government is accountable and the police do not beat or disperse peaceful demonstrators of the swedish parliament, how much will it help you in this work, any award is primarily a help to focus the international community to work or the problems that the laureate researcher is working on and we now really need. such a focus, such a promotion, because the problems that we faced in ukraine, and i mean, first of all, the large-scale invasion of the russian federations, this is a problem that cannot be solved purely within national borders. we need international support. we need weapons. we need sanctions and we need justice . given that this award will draw the attention of the world community, there is obviously an

opportunity to loudly declare the violation of people's rights and on occupied temporarily occupied territories and newly de-occupied territories, which cases do you consider to be the most striking now, which ones can draw attention to this problem, we now have a large number of people who were illegally deprived of their liberty and are held in or in non-freedom places in the occupied territories or taken to the russian federation in general and are there in a pre-trial detention center without any official criminal charges, these are men, these are women of very different ages, very different states of health, each story is different we are working closely with our relatives. we are trying to use all existing international legal mechanisms for their release as soon as possible, and of course we will continue

to talk about this at all international well, you see the situation here is that when our defenders were released, including those from azov. i mean, this is the last big exchange, when 213 people returned to ukraine. it turns out that they have never seen anyone from the international red cross, and international organizations are not doing their job properly. in such a way that if we were to ideally work with these humanitarian and human rights issues, who can we work with in, for example, the issue of observing at least the minimum rights of our prisoners of war in russia, if even the red cross is not ready to take on this responsibility and says that there is nothing we can do. it is no secret that russia brutally ignores the norms of international law, and in particular the third geneva convention, according to which the international committee of the red cross should have free access to prisoners of war, but this does not mean that

the international red cross should be given the opportunity to throw up its hands and say that it cannot do anything, let it try every day, let it contact and report to its relatives every day how this is happening the process is a problem with the international committee of the red cross that equals, well, at least with those with whom i communicate. my colleagues have very little feedback from this. in september, the un general assembly was in new york. we worked at this general assembly because it was a part dedicated to the issue of russia's responsibility for war crimes, and we were greatly helped by the initiative of nobel prize laureates, they forwarded my open letter to the un secretary general, and in this letter i draw attention to the fact that the time has come carry out the reform of international organizations, in particular the un, and throw russia out of the security council because we are throwing up our hands and saying that we can't do anything, only putin is to blame. finally, the time has come

to look at ourselves and change the architecture of international security. it can be discussed even at the level of the un security council members themselves. but there is more one aspect in russia, in your opinion, there are still human rights defenders with whom it is possible to maintain contact. and if this will not be a reputational blow, we work with such people who have remained in the russian federation, we do not know how much longer they will be able to to work they are trying to gain access to the imprisoned ukrainians they are trying to help us find out where they are, their possibilities are very limited, but these are people we have known for many years, they are honest and decent, and they are most at risk now because if something happens to them, we we won't be able to do anything either, and by the way, we already talked about the red cross of russian prisoners of war. they are visiting ukraine

. i know that it allows representatives of international organizations to visit russian prisoners of war, but in march, the proper legal framework was created, new institutions, the national information bureau, were created, contrary to the legislation to strengthen the guarantees of prisoners of war, and i do not have the opportunity to check how this happens in practice, so i hope that if international organizations, in particular the office of the un high commissioner or the same international committee of the red cross, do not speak critically about it, it means there are no problems with access on this side. thank you oleksandr for our conversation. once again, i congratulate you on the award for the right way of life from the swedish parliament. it was oleksandra matviychuk, a

human rights defender and the head of the center for civil liberties, one of the most famous ukrainian human rights defenders. and now we continue broadcasting in the world as well the only news, together we are strong, the armed forces need drones, make your contribution, scan the qr code, a rescuer is an internal purpose, not an obligation - it is a mission, not a compulsion - it is a high spirit and greatness is possible to teach how to hold a fire hose and it is impossible to teach how to save someone else's life sometimes i value my own the heart itself teaches not to back down if it wasn't difficult to be ready for self-sacrifice to be courageous to be humane to have a heart for others state emergency service we will save we will restore we will win wherever you are you can be

with those who need it, buy medicine for lyudmila petrovna, help svetlana, who ran away with one bag, find them on the portal and nearby they are waiting for your help once we were colleagues once we were neighbors once we were friends, now we are brothers, and every enemy will fall, so long as we don't stand during ground forces, air forces, naval forces, the same, assault troops, special operations forces, territorial defense forces, the armed forces of ukraine - this is a family further in

our etheridze, a member of the georgian parliament , there she is one of the leaders of the factions of the national movement, and we remember khativ as the head of the national ukrainian police in 15-16 years. i congratulate you panihati . glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. ukrainians are worried about the announced mobilization in russia, a large part of russians are fleeing this mobilization to georgia, and the georgian government is allowing them to do this despite the fact that in 2008 the russians occupied part of your beautiful country. this is how you can be in a state of actual war with russia and at the same time let healthy russian men to you so that they

run away from the war. now they go to georgia and frankly speaking, after mobilization they are just tourists. and we don't consider it and not only me. well, the greater half, that is, 80% of the population of georgia, they believe that this is a big threat to the country's security, to national security , because georgia is a small country, 20% we are occupied, and the most important thing is that immigration is such a hmm ah, i don’t know, that kind of migration is a very big threat, too, for ah, for security, too, for example, because putin’s doctrine and the kremlin’s doctrine always suit two versions there, i don’t i know people are gathering there. maybe they will try to vote later and so on. yes, this is a big threat, but the most important thing is that. well, let me give you the statistics. i will also say that first, march

does not beat the caliphate. 500,000 and the statistics are so relevant . of internal affairs says that she left about 400,000, and who has gta 70,000 left, uh, somehow, i honestly don't really care much, by the way, it's very important. what 's the most important thing ? and russian aggression in ukraine what is the real position of the government, for example, regarding the status of a candidate and which we did not receive because the government failed all democratic reforms, frankly speaking, the government has a repulsive position, how it is growing why? what is the position of the government, for example, about the so-called migrant and to be honest, i don't think we should call them refugees, because they are the ones who are fleeing, these young people who simply left

their profession left when it already affected their personal safety, and before that they were sitting in russia they didn't do anything in order to recon and they didn't do anything when putin killed women and children in ukraine so that a-a yes very very much m-m a-a really this is such an expressive policy a-a oligarch ego not shulyk who is very good zhiguluriuet and very it's good there, and it warms putin up. and you know. well , that is, pizynov didn't sew the last thing there , in my opinion, in russian. the oligarch who now rules pronoy, and to be honest, we all remember that he made a lot of money, and in the early 90s, he was a russian it was to the stanomer of gazprom and now he rules country so we are trying very hard and i think it is very important that our western partners understand that it is also important to stabilize it because it has not been sewn up, it is a threat not

only to democracy and georgia, but it is for security, a child of the black sea and of the sea and for the sake of danger and for the victory of ukraine, so what, uh, it is necessary for our partners to understand all this in the first place, and what about lukashenko, and lukashenko, who visited abkhazia, which is temporarily occupied by the russians - that's ok, now there are even fewer of us i am interested, we just have a little bit of time left, and i would like to inquire about the fact that in ukraine they are also discussing whether georgia is ready to open a second front in order to liberate this abkhazia and the rest of the occupied territories, because right now is the time, are there at least such conversations in the opposition? you know the most important thing is that the most important thing is that we say to our fellow citizens who live on the wap site and who live now, for example, in the

excused region, this is south ossetia, which is occupied. feel not what is the security because you know that some of them were taken after the first mobilization, and now the second wave, when it really started, and they also feel not very safe, by the way , the same thing that the president said when he said to everyone it's very open. he said that honestly , if you want to save yourself, then you just have to save everything from putin. the whole world. so, the most important thing is that i think that our government is not ready. not only realistically, but to support ukraine, our government is not ready to really support it. ah uh georgians understand the national national interests of georgia, this is very important. and as for what we saw, for example, we see now in abkhazia, ah , one moment is very important. all these years, ivanishili stayed in the whole zone, he played both with the west and

with putin, but after february 24, honestly speaking he can't do it . so his government invoice is a prophetic invoice. and now, uh, putin told him that if you're still going to play, but he's not playing anymore. now lukashenko has entered abkhazia, and that is, in a few days, it can be yes will declare independence yes, unfortunately, you are right in this sense but i think that this is not the end of everything that lies ahead thank you for so definitely thank you in the house er house i am so onoidze a member of the georgian parliament and one of the leaders of the local faction of the national ru was with us on the air, we will continue the only news together we are strong armed forces need drones make your contribution scan qr-ko unconquered cities of ukraine dnipro, the space capital of ukraine with the

longest embankment in europe and the shortest subway, was born on the site of cossack land owners freedom, the lessons of the occupation, the hitlers all shot from 17 to 21,000 jews in the dnipro after the expulsion of the nazis, it remained under the attack of enemy aircraft, but did not stop working for victory, as it does not stop, and now it is the first to meet those who are fleeing the war and, despite everything, reliably holds the rear of the dnipro people, just space and they aim at the fragile and

expensive dnipro unconquered." we will continue our work and we will talk on the air with lana zerkal behind the traitor of the minister of energy of ukraine ms. lana i congratulate you good evening i still want to talk about gas too we have already talked a lot on the air today and we will talk more about our accelerated application to nato, of course the number one topic of the military remains the

liman where ours are successfully advancing, but the gas issue is also especially before winter, as they say now. and i wanted to start with how you assess the prospects transit of russian gas through ukraine after the explosion of all four northern streams of both, and there is a threat from gazprom to impose sanctions in quotation marks on the ukrainian naftogaz and actually shut down this the branch of gas supply to the european union that then they will have, well, they will actually still have turkish flow, but this week there was another additional piece of news that did not spread and about which there are many questions. but in the netherlands, uh, their regulator a- and he deprived the south stream, that’s the name

of this organization, which is registered and a legal entity in the netherlands, of a license to transport gas. in fact, this means that it is only possible to supply small emergency portions of gas through the turkish stream, because this gas operator no longer has licenses and they are actually outlawed, now they should not function, that is, the situation that has developed now suggests that russia will not just lose the european market, they have categorically lost it, and now today there was a message to the italian nation from gazprom that from october 1 they are actually cutting off supplies gas to italy and they say that they have some force majeure circumstances but nothing happened on the

ukrainian route thank god and at the same time they refer to the impossibility of transporting e from e-e austria, although austria does not confirm any problems with transportation. well, they are reducing supplies to moldova, in fact, now only austrians and hungarians remain on this route that passes through ukraine. but how it will happen further, no one knows because it is impossible to predict even now these sanctions that they are going to impose on naftogaz or on our operator of the gas transportation system, they once again prove that they are creating conditions under which they, er, they think it will be impossible to attract liability and impose fines on them for the undersupply of contractual parties, that is,

moldova risks being left without russian gas, but then together with it, transnistria, which actually only exists at the expense of this gas, actually exists only at the expense of this gas and with of this gas, electric energy is still produced, due to which moldova exists, and moldova is now in a very difficult situation because they do not understand where they will get electric energy, how they will get through this winter period and i know that everyone is very worried about this because moldova may be left with nothing , but this gas will

reach hungary at the same time. we already know that the russians do not surrender theirs only in words, so i would not be surprised that at some point they will surrender the hungarians too, so we can follow the rhetoric of mr. orbán and listen at what moment this venter plan will be blocked , but this is an interesting point, but you brought it up attention to this news, which was really not widely covered in the ukrainian press, that the netherlands revoked the license of this south stream, but if the netherlands closes this southern pipe, the so-called turkish stream, with its own hands, it means that europe is no longer afraid of dependence on russian gas, and is it possible then to claim that the eu got off the russian gas needle, see this week there were two more events, one of which was talked about - the opening of a route for norwegian gas to poland from denmark, and the second one not so much

said that the gas pipeline from greece to bulgaria actually started working, so it is true to say that they can fully replace these volumes that were supplied by russia, it is impossible at the same time, at the same time, gas storages in europe are already over 90% full, and such a crisis as the russians predicted will no longer really be will have to save and already today there was information that the italians are going to start the heating season at least two weeks later than they planned, that they plan to reduce consumption by 7-10%, but at the same time the same germans since december, they can do without russian gas to the fullest extent, they have conducted all negotiations with alternative suppliers and

are even ready to install six new terminals for receiving lg liquefied gas. well, if europe is going to economize a little, and in russia , the question still remains where put out these surpluses that are extracted well, because they sell and transport, they do not sell and do not transport but they extract it and where do they put it, you know in july there was information that they already reduced their mining by 40%, uh, all over the world, according to all indicators, they are decreasing further, they just close mining, what will they do? all these people whom they are putting out of work. well, you and i do not know, but we know for sure that in russia they do not think about people. maybe they will simply remain without work

and will look for something new, or maybe they are going to mobilize. we also do not know this, but we can already see from the latest statistics that in russia their income part of the budget is falling, and this despite such sky-high energy prices for gas for oil products, which they continue to sell until december, oil until december, oil products until march, but at the same time, their budget for non-oil products is 29% from oil products and 22% from gas, that is, we can already see that they have a large reduction budget, but what will happen with the ukrainian route, will they supply gas to europe at all, this is a big question because they can no longer transport it anywhere else, it is impossible, they can either burn it or completely shut down production, well

russians like to repeat that if europe does not want their gas, they will sell to china, they can not sell to china, it is physically impossible. even now, what we are talking about is the second thread of this power of siberia, which the head of the kremlin is talking about - it is just their fantasies because that this thread is not even confirmed by the chinese that they are interested in it at the moment they can transport in china as far as i remember somewhere around 30 billion compared to what they supplied to europe last year 155 mirage of billions and now they supply, well, no more than uh-uh 50 well, that is, compared to what was in the parable, less well, that is, there is a chance that the price