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with the destruction of the right of these people to have ukrainian citizenship or any other role, and you see that even if people have dual citizenship, it does not protect them from bullying and harassment, that was a wonderful story that you may have noticed, this is a story with the politician leonid gotsman, who had dual citizenship of israel and the russian federation and, in accordance with russian legislation, informed about his israeli citizenship, the relevant authorities in russia initially detained him for the fact that he interrupted about citizenship in an untimely manner, although two or three years after he made the relevant information, then he was detained, he was already supposed to be
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released, he was detained because it turned out that in one of his posts he compared, do you understand what a huge crime hitler's germany was to the soviet union, they were imprisoned for 15 days for such a huge crime, can you imagine a person imprisoned 15 days ago, she compared the soviet union to germany, people had already done this even in the years of khrushchev, then when they were released, they were arrested again, it turned out that they compared the soviet alliances with hitler's germany but earlier than the previous post for which they were detained for 15 hundred thousand, this previous post, which was a few years ago for the one for which the person was already punished, was defined as a repeated violation. and we are saying something about some constitutional court of the russian federation that he approves the annexation of ukrainian territories. it's just such a complete
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injustice. well, now finally, thanks to the fact that it was leonid gozbon's second passport. he was somehow able to leave the territory of the russian federation, so we can hope that the russians can to act somehow in uh, from the point of view of justice, this seems to me to be absolutely gross, such a mistake, which is absolutely obvious, a mistake that, in one way or another , demonstrates the russian leadership's complete lack of understanding of what a civilized country should look like in general, it is absolutely clear to me thing and here i can already from this moment answer your questions whether everything will not end with that, asks ms. anastasia karkovska regarding the power in russia, will an even more radical leader come, or do the public statements of kadyrov and prigozhina indicate that at the address at the address
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general chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine gerasym that a struggle for power has begun in putin's entourage. i think that in putin's entourage the struggle for power has never stopped, but this struggle is not against putin, but against whoever will be next to putin. putin is a typical balancer of this regime, they all they are afraid of him, you could see it during the meeting of the security council of the russian federation, he is a person who achieves a balance between these and these forces, and the attacks of prigozhin and kadirovana gerasimov only testify to the fact that they can appeal only to putin and that if putin is not there, it is not between them that a real civil war can start because they hate each other. even the military, the military hate caucasians in caucasians, even those or others. i mean people who next to putin, therefore, of course, keeping vladimir putin in power is a guarantee of stability for the clans of the russian federation. it is simply necessary to understand that putin has managed to become stalin
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for the russian political elite over the years, therefore whoever believes that putin's power may end in the event of his defeat in ukraine rather naively looks at the events that are taking place in russia, some federations like that okay, there is a very important point that shows that russian society itself is not ready to fight putin, the announcement of mobilization, which obviously contradicts interests of millions of russians has led to the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are left in russia, but there are no even attempts to overthrow the regime that destroys your husbands, brothers, etc. i think that the modernization of the russian the federation will be the business of the next generations of russians, and for now we will have to live in this country that is or can someone more radical come to power. i don’t understand what else needs to be radical for zaputin from a political point of view. radical history can be in the event that the military replaces the chekists and there will be believe that the ukrainian issue, which putin's entire russian political elite obviously wants to solve,
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to express its opinion, can be solved by military means, not by special operations, which putin is always trying to do, because we we understand that he did not want a war, i wanted a special operation, but a military one, and this is a very important point for understanding the situation, but i do not see the real potential of the russian military to fight the chekists. i believe that the czech state will continue in russia because this czech state the state must implement the real desire of the majority of russians, this is the restoration of the territorial integrity of the soviet union in the form of the russian empire, this is also something that must be understood in my time, we do not understand this, this corresponds to the wishes of the majority of russians they want the territory of the soviet union, however, so that these are no longer sovereign republics, but simply regions within russia, this is about what zhirynovsky said in the 90s, remember, he expressed their point of view, this is their position, they will fight for it, i don't know how much they are ready to die for it, however, i am sure that vladimir putin will go
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to the end of his life in the realization of this ambitious goal. that is why he is such a dangerous, terrible, cruel enemy with the consequences of whose actions we will still face, and the scale of these consequences no one can even imagine yet if it is not stopped before this, ms. anastasia asks who, in my opinion, blew up the nord stream, what will be the consequences, who will benefit more from this. after all, for ukraine, this gas pipeline was opened on a day off. i think that the russians blew up the nord stream with one simple goal: the decision that they will not supply gas to europe has already been approved . i think that the supply of gas to the ukrainian gas transportation system of ukraine will soon stop. it is necessary to understand that the time when it was a transitor of russian gas is ending simply because there will be no russian gas going to europe soon. so, all this money that we wanted to keep for ourselves as income for the ukrainian budget, we must say goodbye to it, at least
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consciously . to transit gas through ukraine, but the money will not be paid. and you want to transport as you want, you want to transport, and it was the same naive hope of ukrainians that they could be transitors of russian gas, as was the naive hope of europeans that they can be consumers of russian gas, nothing will happen, but putin now needs gazprom to avoid fines for non-supply of gas. in this way, it will be a simple matter, nothing will be supplied through the northern stream, but the russians will say that it was all done by americans or ukrainians, that it is sabotage enemies and they will prove it in all arbitrations where they will be referred to the ukrainian gas transportation system for some time, gas will still flow, but ukraine will not receive money for it, and at some point gas
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will end, and the turkish stream has lost its license and the supply of gas through it will also soon stop. thus , the time when russia supplied gas from europe is ending completely, and the main goal of the russian federation is to freeze the europeans, to create opportunities for high tariff rates in europe in the coming winter, to increase prices, to worsen the social situation with the fall of the government and the creation of such governments in european countries that will agree with russia on its terms and understand that in order to live in warmth it is necessary to liquidate the ukrainian statehood and this is an excellent way out of the situation, because the ukrainian pipe remains, it will be a gazprom pipe after the entire territory of ukraine is annexed to the russian federation, and the amount of gas that the europeans need will go through this modernized pipe, that is, in principle, if the ukrainian state is destroyed, all energy europe's problems
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are solved in 24 hours, you just need to stop helping, it's such a plan, i don't think you wanted this life, but it's very simple and undermining the northern streams absolutely corresponds to the political the interests of vladimir putin and the russian federation as a state that believes that ukrainian statehood should be destroyed during this war. why was there no mention of it in the battle? there were no other goals. there are no half goals. there are no four regions. they are not satisfied with only full access to the border. moldova, of course, also wants to eliminate all this schizophrenia, but they are six in the same country. turn and live, and as you saw, this is the kind of schizophrenia that gives them the opportunity to blow up their own lawns. implemented as a security guarantee provided to finland by sweden from britain and the usa in the wake
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of russia's attack, for example, on finland, with the aim of preventing finland from joining the donation, implemented by the collective participation of the american and british armed forces in the defense of finland, by real participation , this distinguishes this situation from russia's war against ukraine, viktor yaskov, mr. vitaly please comment on the weak actions of the european union of the united states regarding the accession of ukrainian lands to russia, because they shouted that there would be a very harsh response to the so-called referendums, however nothing like that happened in the matter of the question of whether there will be the same poor reaction of world leaders to putin's use of nuclear weapons. well, first of all, what does a harsh reaction to the annexation of ukrainian lands mean? first of all , a legal act that leads to new sanctions,
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there is nothing else in the western toolkit, western countries do not want to fight with russia, they clearly say that they are not a party to the conflict , which means that any legal actions of russia will lead to a strengthening of the sanctions policy, the sanctions toolkit on the part of the west is almost exhausted, but there is an opportunity to impose sanctions on third countries that participate in one way or another, economic medievalism from the russian federation , there is simply nothing else in the western arsenal, because i do not understand what a weak reaction from the west means, and that's it implemented a level of sanctions that could not have been expected before putin's attack on ukraine. putin did not expect it regarding this regarding the use of nuclear weapons by putin will not we do not know the same weak reaction, because the use of nuclear weapons has never happened, we do not know whether it will be considered as the use of a nuclear weapon by a nuclear state against a non-nuclear one, with possible military consequences on the part of the
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nuclear countries, or whether it will be a different reaction. i would like us to it was not checked because the world after that , if putin uses nuclear weapons for everything, will look completely different than before, so i don’t have an answer to this question, but i always said that since the war started, nothing it will not be like before the war, the main task of any state is to prevent the war, but when the war started, the war will be any - there can be any consequences, and it is necessary to clearly understand that we are not members of nato and are not members of nato in this situation, because we had a period when we could become members of nato, during this period we successfully traded gas with russia, we were happy that we have cheap gas, that we were there in four times we wasted our historical time and now we are paying for it with blood and prospects, it always happens in history and what about you i don't understand what you were counting on when in the 90s they said that if we don't protect ourselves, it will be like this. well, it is so, let's hope that in the event that putin does not use nuclear
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weapons, and in the event of their use, the third world war will come, which will simply turn this country and other states into test arenas nuclear weapons, other countries would not like to live like this dmytro darvinok, it is obvious that now ukraine will not be accepted into nato, which bosyn should submit an application right now, i believe that the application for accelerated accession to nato simply emphasizes the priorities of ukraine emphasizes at least the fact that we are not going to win with russia about our neutral status after another annexation of our territories, this is a diplomatic statement, it is important. i don't see any problem in it and i think that it somehow activates diplomatic efforts, including in the very today, i already spoke about it, 12 presidents of the countries of central and eastern europe, central southern europe spoke with the support of our, our, our efforts to join us, and it is obvious
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that this will mean adding an opportunity to create strongly to the coalition in nato for our quick acceptance that the leaders of these countries will convince the leaders of the leading nato countries, first of all, the countries that have nuclear weapons to do everything to provide us with security guarantees in the future, that is why they submitted an application right now, but precisely against the background of the annexation of ukrainian lands. i am again i remind you that this application was submitted seven months after the ukrainian delegation at the negotiations with russia discussed the issue of blocking ukraine's status of our neutrality in exchange for the end of hostilities and for some you do not see special guarantees from the states, among which was the russian federation, in this political progress, i see at least the political development of the ukrainian government itself, so it is
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quite obvious such points that i always want to talk about when we discuss with you such things, i just think. well, that’s all good. okay, so when do you have to submit this application? what is stopping the usa and great britain? on the side of the conflict on the territory of ukraine, in contrast to the territory of finland, there is already a war with russia with a nuclear state, the combined headquarters, and this main company, the guarantees of great britain are not so important, they believe that if they give any direct guarantees of security to ukraine, they can thus enter into a conflict with russia federation, which will lead to the third world war
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with the subsequent disappearance of most of humanity from the face of the world, they do not want this, by the way, i do not think that they will be able to do it all the time. i allow for moments when the third world war will begin and of course there will be an exchange of strategic nuclear strikes, a large amount of content will disappear from the face of the earth before our eyes if we even witness this because we can become the first victims of this war, this is the real turn of events, we should not be afraid of it, we should accept it as the possibility of the disappearance of human civilization, what has it been like for us already 80 years after that, nuclear weapons appeared. for a long time, no one said that there would be 100 , but let's hope that vladimir putin himself together with his relatives does not want to die . i am not sure whether the united states recognizes russia as a state and terrorists, we see that so far the united states is quite serious against this, the president of the united states, joseph biden, secretary of state anthony blinken in
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congress, and another position that he defends let's say the speaker's call of the representatives of the american congress on the initiative that is considered necessary for russia to be declared a state and terrorists, and i absolutely for this i believe that it was correct a serious decision on the part of the united states, but as far as i understand, the united states fears that the declaration of russia as a terrorist state may stop certain diplomatic efforts in the united states to release its own citizens who are currently there, you know, a famous sportswoman is in prison in the russian federation . i understand that until the moment when the dialogue on this issue ends , the exchange of these american citizens for some russians who may be needed by vladimir putin, and all this will not happen, and this too quite an important point that we have that we have
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to take into account i see that the question why the usa asks oksana gagarina will defend taiwan from china military ukraine regardless of the budapest amaranth because the budapest memorandum differs from those guarantees that the united states gave to the republic of china, whose government is located on the island of taiwan even at the end of the second world war, the chinese government, which is now the successor to the government that won the second world war, has a completely different security guarantee, it must be clearly to realize that this is a story about the results of the second world war. china, led by the grandees shevchenko, was the country that won the second world war, but then the government of the chanka still ceded power to the communist regime led by maus zadun, connected to moscow with joseph stalin, and the only thing that could to do then the united
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states to ensure the evacuation of this government and a thousand supporters to the island of taiwan and from that moment the united states gave appropriate legal guarantees to this government that they would protect it democratic choice, ukraine does not have such legally formalized guarantees. the budapest memorandum, which everyone complains about, is only a document that we paid for our independence , because the independence of the recognition of ukraine as an independent state in general, like other former soviet republics, was focused on the fact that nuclear weapons will remain in the same hands in even more so for moscow. neither ukraine nor other countries that had nuclear weapons had any real access to them. these nuclear weapons had to be written off in the near future. in 6-7 years, that is, it is all an illusion of nuclear arsenals, it is another matter if we wanted to become a real nuclear state, but the question arises as to how much it has become real now with e-e in terms of
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recognizing our sovereignty. perhaps then the united states of western european countries would try to do everything is possible to help the muscovites to establish their sovereignty over ukrainian territory already in 1991, then it was necessary to even fight if we paid for it when the president of the united states, george bursh, sr., speaks with boris yeltsin and leonid kravchuk and stanislav shashkevich, it was precisely about this, where the button will be and who will have the button, and it is clear that it will not be there for anya kravchuk, anya shashkevich nazarbaeva, that she is the builder, the whole meaning of the budapest memorandum is solely in this and it is not the a document that could talk about the need to protect ukraine to the same extent as the budapest memorandum. well, this must be clearly understood . of citizens for the residents of the occupied donbass in the 14th year,
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i think you want to act correctly, as stalin acted on the ukrainian territory, he first left this territory, and then the people who remained in this territory after the 45th year were constantly asked in the questionnaires, did you live in the occupied territory. and you have relatives from the occupied territory. what did the residents of donbas and crimea blame for the fact that the ukrainian state was unable to protect its sovereignty? you can find out what crimes people have committed against the ukrainian state against its citizens. bear responsibility regardless of what kind of citizenship it is, and people who simply turned out to be hostages of the occupation, why do they have to pay for it and become non-citizens, what kind of delusion is it? and if tomorrow the russians occupy half of the territory of ukraine, half will be non-citizens, that is, ukraine is enough for the russian army to pass somewhere to get there already were for citizens. and how will you distinguish from citizens from non-citizens from the 14th to the 22nd , that means they are not citizens.
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what is your idea of reality in general, non- citizens in latvia appeared in lithuania and estonia for one simple reason: these states restored their statehood in 1940 and recognized as their citizens all those who lived at the time of the liquidation of statehood on their territory, plus their descendants and all the others, regardless of their national or ethnic origin. i know letychs who were not latvian citizens because their parents did not live in latvia in the 40th year, they turned out not to be citizens and went through and are still going through the process of obtaining citizenship of the country in which they live, you understand , we are not restoring anything, we are liberating our occupied territories, ukrainian citizenship
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is inherent to all people who have lived in ukraine since 1991 and their descendants, because it was then that the ukrainian state declared all those living on the territory of the ukrainian ssr citizens of ukraine, there is no possibility to declare people non-citizens because a foreign army came to their lands, no sovereign state has the only thing that of course, there is a huge question about those citizens of the russian federation who did not have russian ukrainian citizenship, however, settled on the territory of the occupied territories of the autonomous republic of crimea , the city of sevastopol, donetsk, luhansk, kherson , zaporozhye regions, this is where serious legal questions will arise, firstly, about the rights of these citizens to be in the occupied territories, when they will be released, and secondly, about the issue of ownership of the property of these people, what they own real estate or business in these territories, special laws will have to be passed here that will regulate the status of these people, because as you
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do you understand, uh, this will also be related precisely to the right well, this too needs to be understood if putin dares to use nuclear weapons and exactly what kind of missile weapon it will be, what will be the target no. 1 i don't know this and you don't know this and to what extent i understand that we are talking about missile weapons. could it be some other weapon with the use of a nuclear component, what will be the number one target? i also do not know , and i think that putin himself does not know about this at all. would argue the imperial question which ivan lavrushinets passes, when the war will end, no one knows, people who can give you some terms are usually charlatans, the war is not about that, it is not a highway in which you can see some light at the end of the tunnel, this is an equation with a huge number of
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unknowns, we see a trend that is quite simple from one on the one hand, we see that vladimir putin cannot occupy the territory of ukraine with the help of short -term actions of the so-called special operations, that his blitzkrieg was a fiasco, that the russian army appeared and turned out to be incapable of occupying a large part of the territory of ukraine, on the other hand, we see that putin is not going to stop these attempts to announce a large-scale mobilization on the territory of the russian federation, that the russian economy is still able to withstand the pressure of sanctions, and it has proven to be more resistant to western sanctions than could have been predicted 7 months ago. that is, all predicted which existed on february 24, 2020 of the second year both in russia and in the west and in ukraine turned out to be completely far from reality the russian army turned out to be weaker ukrainian stronger russian economy turned out to be stronger, from the point of view of destruction and
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social opportunities, russian society turned out to be more amorphous. and from the point of view of readiness to protest against the desert, ukrainians turned out to be much more resilient to all these problems that were created by putin, this allows us to speak with absolute confidence about the importance of a long-term , multi-year conflict on the territory of ukraine how possible is the development of these events, but no one said that this conflict, which we see as long-term , which can continue for 80 years, will not end in 8 weeks or in 8 months, you understand because there may not be enough unity in the russian leadership , internal elite conflicts may intensify in russia itself, some kind of black swan may occur for the russian economy, many things may happen that we do not yet foresee, we are only at the beginning of the development of events that should ultimately lead
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to the end of this conflict in a month, week, month, or year economic sanctions or other punishment yes. in the event that russia is recognized as a country and terrorists , sanctions may be extended to all these companies that continue some business of the russian federation for third countries, including the countries of the european union and the people's republic of china, etc., in principle, any foreign economic activity with russia is impossible federation on all points, but this, by the way, also does not mean that something irreparable will happen to the russian economy. iran has been a terrorist country for many years. well, as far as i can see, nothing from it did not happen, the iranians not only continue to survive in those conditions, not only the iranian government thunderous protests, which have already been quite a lot and in russia at all, but it is also developing its nuclear program, whether it is true or get nuclear weapons, so it is not
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necessary to assume that any sanctions can be a quick panacea for such regimes as putin's and that the announcement of russia as a country for tourists will solve everything considering that all countries declared by the united states as tourist countries during this time have not changed their regimes and continue to be opponents of the united states, all of russia can be added to this list, but this does not mean that this will change its er political situation, thank you very much for er so many questions on which i can make such a simple conclusion, you er don't expect miracles dear friends, look at politics, war does not happen, there is a long and complicated bloody process, the fact that ukraine has been fighting the russian invasion for so many months, the fact that the armed forces are liberating our territory, the fact that we are celebrating victories, the fact that the russian offensive aimed at the occupation of the entire of our land has slowed down, this is already a political miracle, and
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now we just need to be patient and understand that this is our life in the future in such a perspective. but if we survive this, we will get a real opportunity to build our state in the next decade, in 30-40 years we will be part of the european family ukraine is as organic as all other countries, ukraine will be a centric state in which the non- language of foreign countries will be spoken on the streets, as it is now. all the more so , the aggressor state will be taught its own language history, they will be proud of their own civilizational achievements, they will not be inferior, there will be no more russian-speaking cities with millionaires in our country, none of this will happen, but there will be ukraine, but it must be built, you must wait and understand that it is a long process, a process for which human life may not be enough, if not all historical processes, because historical processes are not human life, but changes in people's lives, and many who want to see such a
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ukraine will not see it, but their children, his children, and his grandson will see it. i am absolutely clear to you. promise thank you, friends, for this conversation, i want to wish you to wait for victories and stabilization of the situation. and now they only have to pass the word to their colleague ania melnyk, who will introduce you to the events of this hour. please tell me about the most important things for this hour. i will begin this issue with an operational summary from the general staff, the enemy is shelling the position of our troops.
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