to the lesson what will certainly make it easier for us to join if the key players will advocate for the joining of ukraine, the dollar in the west is the united states and in europe france and germany as you know, today 9 countries have officially signed a statement that they are in favor but these are primarily the countries of the former warsaw pact, i would say, who see a threat to their country that they can be next, so to speak, and understand that this is ukraine - it is still so, that is, it is necessary to have such a strong army, and it will protect them, and it is very useful to donetsk region when there is france."

of course, ukraine is free to choose an alliance that will feel free, but there are certain requirements for joining nato, now this issue will be discussed between the 30 countries of the north atlantic alliance. i am in this band. we are very committed to democracy in ukraine, let's win this war, but i would be in favor of ukraine having security guarantees . the nine countries that have already declared their

inclination, so to speak, and their support, but among those countries, it is not only the warsaw pact countries that were there, for example, canada, canada was one of the first to express its support, at the same time for the usa it was a surprise, what does this indicate well, canada , because at this point it advocated for the euro-atlantic integration of ukraine and for its accession to the ranks of nato. as for the united states , germany can also be mentioned here. pan-show this is until the 24th, on the eve of a full-scale invasion, allegedly this was information in the german er media convinced putin that ukraine would not even be er in nato for at least 20 years, so that is, we also recall the bucharest ones themselves, which

is referred to, there is a link to the last communique of the signed memorandum e.e. at the last summit of the nobility in 2008, it was france and germany that then blocked the granting of state aid to us. that is, this is the reality, that is, the evolution of the opinion of the elites in europe, first of all in france , germany as the key countries of europe e and also more different financial and economic interests with russia up to this point until this year are few. of course, they , er, each government pursues its own interests, so there is still a long way to go. and maybe it will not be these governments anymore, or the elites are changing, or something in their heads. we also see the evolution of shultz's thoughts regarding the provision of weapons to us, in particular, that is, here we have positive trends regarding the united states, there is also the new job times, the politician-lushchenko,

this is the key media, the articles appeared, yes, where , these are the signals of the link - these are the key media that well so to speak, they express the opinion of the white house when there are democrats in it, yes, in principle, this is also negative. well, the fact that there was a certain surprise for washington, this submission, therefore, we understand that this decision was not made after consultation with the white house, that is it was an initiative - the initiative of the president of ukraine, and so are we here, that is, in principle, the white house is also not ready to be annoying yet, because you know, they don't want to get involved, we remember that before the war , the leaders always e-e world nato countries and e-e secretary general

mr. stolpen stoltenberg of nato constantly repeats this mantra that nato will not and will avoid getting involved in a war with russia. even after leaving the position of chancellor, merkel stated that she in no way regrets the decisions of 2008 , that she, so to speak, hindered the actual integration of ukraine into the eu and into nato and, in fact, the situation with the change of management, well, it is unchanged at least for now, we will see what will happen next, we will see how the armed forces of ukraine will act, and they are showing superiority on the battlefield now, let's hope that this will be a strong argument for our partners . the politician writes

that in general pilos supports ukraine, but in fact it did not support ukraine's request for accelerated accession to nato, that is, it must be clearly understood that we still have a long way to go and the diplomatic struggle for the right to be an important component of the security union of north america and europe, the only news, together we are strong, the armed forces need drones, make your contribution to the last three events, we are increasingly hearing persistent advice from the west to start negotiations, a process like the leaders of the leading states, are worried about what russia is doing in therefore, ukraine should have a diplomatic solution, and the parties should sit down at the negotiating table. and at the same time, we constantly hear the statements of the leaders of various countries regarding the recognition of the sovereignty of ukraine and indivisibility and integrity of our territories, however, the question arises as to the calls for negotiations . by the way, they are putinists, but how do they correlate with my pseudo-referee that was carried out the other day and the attempts to annex new territories

, because the clear signal from the ukrainian side was that you withdraw the army from the territory of ukraine, and only after that there will be diplomacy. but are we really being pushed to negotiate, more precisely, who and for what, it would be possible to formulate the question like that after blinky's visit to kyiv, there was a lot of talk about such steps on the part of the usa even though it is a lie. this is how ms. bring responded to such accusations. the usa does not and has never encouraged ukraine to negotiate with putin, officials said that only ukrainians and the democratically elected leader of ukraine, president zelensky, can decide when and how this conflict should end and when and how to start before the negotiations , supporting ukraine in every possible way, the usa emphasizes on the strongest possible negotiating positions, negotiations can and should take place, but how, when and with whom will be decided by the

democratically elected president of ukraine after russia's attempts to annex new territories of ukraine , the head of state has said his word. he says that we are ready for a dialogue with russia, but already with another russian president. briefly and clearly, oksii the hedgehog, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies , is already in touch with us. congratulations, mr. oleksiyovych, are you listening ? you are us because we do not hear you i can hear you oh we already hear you congratulations so ah-ah we often appeal to putin's logic, which is often-thick well, there is no army of the russian federation in ukraine time and time again feels defeated by the armed forces of ukraine, even today already they reported from the kherson region encouraging news regarding the active advance of the armed forces deep into the ground and such a contour offensive. well, putin desperately needs a break to regroup and train the

mobilized it servicemen of russian disabled people. by mouth let's say from putin's clarification, at the same time, a pseudo-referendum is being held, they are trying to annex new ukrainian territories, the goals of the special operations are unchanged and the goals unchanged, where is the logic and how do you think events will develop further from the point of view of russia, that is, from the point of view of the russian leadership? well, even if you look at the reaction of the world and our reaction. seems to have disappeared, and if we are talking about russian politics, we are now talking about putin’s personal steps, therefore, of course, the russian bureaucracy among the military has its own strategy, its own vision, but unfortunately, so far, putin is

who is there a person who looks like putin holds power and they take such steps the east according to putin's logic he wants surrender surrender he calls the actual negotiations and they should be about surrender and he constantly puts forward new conditions for such a surrender at first it was all and then, in march, there were, as it were, opportunities for such an easier compromise before the military one, so to speak. and now he demonstrates the same thing with an ultimatum that you recognize the new annexations and enshrine it in the treaty, so the logic here is that twisted, but it is iron in its own way from putin's point of view. i think everything is made up in his head, and then i will ask in a different way that the

question is, where is the logic of those leaders in which district to sit down , well, sit down at the negotiating table? the other day, we heard calls there pope francis, who called for negotiations in the summer, now he is calling again to sit down at the negotiating table, let's remember emmanuel macron's failed attempts to join the negotiation process. in this country, objectively yes, the president of turkey is doing his job in order to score political points at the level of the geopolitics of the day, mertzeperdogan once again had a telephone conversation with putin, it was about the exchange of prisoners, the grain corridors, another new exchange of prisoners, a pseudo-referendum and turkey's readiness to be a mediator in the negotiation process . asked russian president putin to give the negotiations another chance, we are ready to play a contributing role in this process, and the holding of pseudo-referendums complicates diplomatic efforts

not to mention the use of nuclear weapons by russia, which could turn into a disaster. so, where is the logic of the leaders of european or non -european countries on the other side of the ocean, including perhaps turkey, who see that we are showing superiority both in the donetsk direction and in the southern kherson region today, good news but at the same time, they force us to sit down at the negotiating table when the president of ukraine clearly said that there will be no more negotiations after these same pseudo-referendums, well, now we hear first of all the president of turkey, he has his own logic, he has his own interest, and he is still different from the european one, and the second thing is what he is saying now. he is talking to putin and he is trying to convince him that to make

the process of pseudo-referendums, their recognition and statements about nuclear weapons to be reversed, so that he would give a signal, i understand that this is not forever and everything can be returned. it is already impossible, and i am a little surprised what erdağan still hopes for. of course, you can understand his logic or his interest, we do not we know ecology, but his interests are clear, he has interests in syria, he has interests in the south caucasus, he has interests in central asia, he plays on all these fields and plays, of course, from the ukrainian side, with the russian-ukrainian war, and what will he do now, but it is obvious that he has to convince putin of something, he will not convince him, and then if he convinces putin, he will try to make a certain offer to us again, i think all he can get is certain humanitarian negotiations about prisoners, about the export of grain or the export of e-e

fertilizer ammonia pipeline it is still possible if we are talking about the western position regarding negotiations, it is not about stopping, stopping fighting , starting negotiations, it is about the fact that at a certain stage, negotiations can be started if russia feels that it is losing, and then it is possible that there will be a point in russia with which center of power, with which to negotiate about ending this war, the idea of ​​buying the territory is not fixed and where to occupy due to certain negotiations so far, i understand, nevertheless, it is possible to convince the united states and other countries that for now it is an illusion and we don't even need to try to negotiate with the people who are currently in power in russia, they won't go to them, but no one knows what will happen before the new year,

etc. what ideas might arise in russia if they say yes, we are ready to talk about withdrawing the troops then of course. at this stage, from the point of view of the united states and other countries, it makes sense to start negotiations, well, in view of what is happening on the fronts, eh , do they have, in your opinion withdraw the troops well, let's go let's remember the reliable and positive news from the leader there, let's say budanov, who said in an interview the other day that in the spring or not, we will not liberate all the occupied territories temporarily since the 90s and we will even go to the crimea there, and we will liberate it already in the spring of the 23rd year, this is great positivism. let's put it this way. but does this positivity have a basis for yours, from your point of view? i think there is such a basis, but will russia 's attitude change?

it is possible to capture a significant number of prisoners, they really withdraw the troops either alone or there in columns, they fail to withdraw the troops under the ukrainian attack the negotiations will simply drag on until the very end, hoping for their happy fate that the energy crisis and the economic crisis will force our partners to stop support and then everything will change, well, in the end, given what is happening on in russia, in particular, the member of the state duma, korolev, noted that where did one and a half million sets of military uniforms disappear? so where did they disappear? yes, such a rhetorical question, where did they go if they have been changing generals there since june and there is no point in it? we will talk about it with our next guest, but a little later. well, thank you for the

opportunity to include oleksiy ezhyk, an expert from the national institute of strategic studies , who was just with us. china and india have repeatedly emphasized and called for an end to the war in ukraine through negotiations. this topic has already been discussed partly by not providing strong support to its traditional ally russia for this. we thank them, of course, but despite the assertions about the sovereignty of ukraine at the last council meeting, it was india and china that gained from the approval of the resolution condemning the actions of russia. today, officially, no major power has supported russia in new ventures to try any new the territory of ukraine, the minister of foreign affairs, meanwhile, called on china to russia and ukraine to prevent the spread of the crisis and not to affect developing countries, here is the key, do what you want there everything, but so that it does not affect us, the logic seems to be just like this, the only news together, we are strong , the armed forces need drones, do your part, our logic

of action is obvious, we must drive the enemy from ukrainian land and win in this, not least because our western partners help us tens of thousands our military is studying in britain, the united states is increasing fin support by billions of dollars to poland, romania , almost all of eastern europe and the balkans support ukraine in various forms, the more new alliances and security formations, the better off ukraine is from last year, the european political community took an active position in these processes. the new configuration of the eu country is on a regular basis. the first meeting will take place on october 6 in prague. leaders from the candidate countries ukraine, the western balkans and turkey also joined the eps, as well as norway, switzerland, and so on. britain wants to join the new political format. it is more important to hold the next lustras summit. the prime minister of great britain offers great britain a new venue for the meeting. this is very important, because the first meeting will also be dedicated to namely russia's war in ukraine and energy security

kostyantyn moshovets, a military expert, i welcome you in general, these are new formats, new formations, new alliances , but today there were reports that the countries of the european union and nato will form a military-industrial union, another new one, which will face and counter new challenges, but first of all, we mean the russian federation, as far as they can be hypothetically effective and where ukraine will be in these unions and formations, well , look at the beginning of this war, the system of international cooperation, primarily in the military-political sense. i mean, it was practically reformatted. why, because it was based on the international security system, which the kremlin essentially destroyed by launching this invasion, and that's why, of course, countries are looking for

as a result of these actions, they are looking for new formats, new formats , let's say, methods and forms of interaction that corresponded to their interests, because previously these interests relied on the old security system, that's why, well, you specifically mentioned the military-industrial system, that is military and technical cooperation eh is cooperation eh with regard to the security of the countries directly there, military cooperation is eh systems that correspond to, let's say, the achievement of political goals and it is clear that eh since eh ukraine is now, let's say, in the epicenter of these events perefra of the reformatting process itself of

course, we will have it in the desired way in these many forms, well, hypothetically, ukraine can take a position in the near future, let's say participates in such unions, a position that is not low-tech, let's say low-tech , but still high-tech because we remember we were also a space state, we once had powerful defense enterprises. today we are actively negotiating to jointly create, let's say, new relocations of defense enterprises, even on the territory of ukraine during the war, somewhere in the neighboring on the territory of neighboring countries, we can take a position, let's say if not a leader, then e. well, to be in the vanguard, well , it is quite possible, the question lies in the directions of further development of the country of our property, you understand that, for example, hypothetically after the end of the war in ukraine, ukraine will need restoration, let's say, the efforts of our country

will be interested in other players on the international arena. of course, the issue there rests on certain finances, resources, etc., but the main capital is the main capital of our country. - these are people, uh, relying on this resource , the main main resource, we can use. that's why you mentioned these places in different years of international affairs in the first row. let's talk like this in these processes, but you said you they pointed out the main thing - it's people, it's absolutely people , and it's people, and it's our army men, they're showing great results right now , first of all, you understand, first of all, it's about these formats that relate to the

security sphere of national defense i.e. of course, in any defense union, where there are some permanent guarantees of security, ukraine with its military strength and military force will be a welcome guest, or even a full member of the russian public. they are just the majority there with such vivid messages that everything is lost, you have to run, nothing is military, the military is not political, the russian military leadership is not doing anything to mean that the armed forces of the russian federation still remained in their positions here i have already mentioned the deputies who are there about 1.5 million e sets of uniforms, he remembered that they were stolen somewhere, then we remember that in june putin is trying to change something by replacing generals, information appeared here that deputy shoigu bolgakov is being replaced by mizintsev

which seems to be there with the experience of syria, but nothing changes in essence here, the ukrainian army surrounded liman for days, where there were about five thousand russian soldiers and officers. who escaped ? to do almost all the ways of leaving or transporting ammunition then the armed forces of ukraine blocked it. well , the head of the luhansk village, serhii hayda, reported about this the day before, and i found the information first -hand, but in your opinion, of course, there was putin's speech is so solemn, and against the background of this speech, it was impossible to give an order to retreat, for example, as an option. yes. and what is happening today in the kherson direction, where our armed forces are also demonstrating success? in the strategic sense, the ukrainian military command continues to have the initiative, the strategic initiative, i

mean it conducts, let's say, offensive actions with a certain purpose, that is, in separate directions , they carry a tactical scale there, that is, there are not several areas. where, this offensive, it is quite possible, has a sufficiently strong chance to outgrow operational success. well, let's say i didn't want to go there now details um, because it’s all happening in a dynamic way, and it’s public let’s say that there are some prospects for the equipment, we won’t hurt the armed forces of ukraine too much, but in i have to say in a strategic sense that there is no uh, you know now at the russian command some kind of active possibility of active influence

on the situation, it basically reacts after the fact to what is happening, forced, that is, it has lost the initiative. in the command of the highest military of the russian federation, there is nothing. in principle, they do not learn, they do not want to learn to change their work . it is precisely because we have completely different approaches as we have repeatedly noted that we are already working, we are already at war, accurate by nato standards, bypassing the encirclement , flexible defense, in this way, i would not say that , well, the russian command is responding adequately in a certain sense, it is trying to stop

the situation there in threatening directions, it is trying to make decisions more or less logical, adequate, etc. the fact is that he has few opportunities to implement these decisions. well, as an example, you mentioned the estuary, now show footage from the estuary. here , for example, is the decision to withdraw the force of the means from the liman region of their grouping , it quite intelligently accepted er. i mean the direction and the area from the withdrawal, for example, er, it is trying in the north, in general, in the northern part of the luhansk region, there to stop the active offensive actions of er, the armed forces in accepting these are more or less reasonable solutions . however, i am emphasizing that thanks to the fact that mistakes were made,

we must complete equality on a larger scale, mr. kostiantino . thank you for joining us for this, of course, thank you. you for the opportunity to join, we have to finish. unfortunately, there is a lack of time. kostyantyn mashovets, a military expert, was in this part of our broadcast. we believe in the armed forces of ukraine, as they say, and we are waiting for good news. watch the project to find your kateryna osadchoi from the search for the missing tomorrow at 21:30 donetsk luhansk kherson, zaporizhzhia were, are and will be ukraine , we will not forget, we will see, we will not retreat, we will not give up,

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