write, and the second is that the only way. in my opinion, this is still point subsidization. ugh , that is, those people who have the opportunity to pay, they must pay. there must be a clear list of requirements and necessary things, in what amount this subsidy is provided point and only in this way in my opinion, we will be able to maintain this fairness in terms of prices. the city itself should deal with subsidies. it seems to me that this is more a question of the central council, and in such a case, it would be possible for it to be given if you went through and subsidies would also go through subsidies through by means of a subsidy well, what would it give first - it would give , again, the culture of consumption, yes, that is, once again, everyone understands that you need to insulate the house, that is, they gave you quite a serious amount of money, but you are already working further here and there,

insulation, insulation of windows, insulation of doors , temperature maintenance in a residence - in a residence, that is, we have, in principle, from the information that was in western europe, in residences it is quite fresher in winter , despite the level of incomes and budgets in britain, in winter in london, you know, i woke up in the middle of the night and moreover, there was who comes out. that is why it was a townhouse. that is, these people are not poor. in the middle of the night, i woke up from the fact that i was ho-ho cold and my tooth did not fall. and if you went to the shower, there is a boiler, which also works very clearly and fixedly. well and plus, the same with these sinks. but where are you? misha, you’re rinsing here, it’s not like it turned on the water and she, and you know it very well, there was such an analysis once upon a time . people, that is, there is something

more than the economy. more precisely, it is another one confirmation that there is always some kind of consciousness under the economy mr. yuriy korolchuk joins us , an expert from the institute of energy strategies and mr. yuriy good day to you good afternoon, we are talking about what is actually perhaps if there was not there would not just be a general tariff for everyone but - and there would be a point subsidy and it would be controlled, maybe we would give money from the center and control the bc and local communities, maybe it would be more effective from many points of view, yuriy, what do you think about it, we are now about heating tariffs well, let's yes let's start with the fact that, well, the tariff is really one . today, that is, in fact, the naftogaz monopoly. we have it today. let's say it's back in the days when there was even let's say that in the early 90s, it's one

tariff. why? because, in principle, naftogaz of ukraine provides gas supplies for the population from one the sources are the company's own extraction, that is, the state company, therefore, in principle , there is such an opportunity. the second point regarding subsidies is that they are actively used on the market , and i think that the demand for subsidies will increase this year. because in principle let's say so until the 21st year, that is, for the season of the 21st-22nd year, in principle, the number of consumers who received subsidies did not exceed 3 million households in ukraine as a whole, but i think that now the figure will grow despite the fact that the data there are closed, well, in principle, such as the available information, where it can be said that this figure will be raised somewhere to the level of 5.5 million households, that is, those people who will receive subsidies. the relationship between the central authorities of local self-government bodies and the issue of subsidies , that is, in principle, i see, you know. look, if

the subsidies are transferred to the local budget, then the question will arise that the local budget should look for money for these subsidies, and the local budgets simply will not have money for these subsidies, or they it is just like that, it is fighting with eternal beggars, as it used to be, and even now, in part, it is those who will travel to kyiv and there in various ways to obtain these subsidies for their regions, i.e. will they be subventions for teplokomunenergo, in principle, and now it remains a question, that is, covering the difference in tariffs , yes, it is important, well, practically , last year, uah 22 billion was transferred to everyone throughout ukraine, yes. that is, these are the debts of the previous years 16-19 the 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th years, and these years, which were now the 21st year, the 22nd year, no one there pays them anything for this, in principle, on a large scale. the issue of subsidies will remain at the state level, let's say

we see even more precisely the european experience when there is now also great britain, but you mentioned there, for example, italy and germany and all the others, they all allocate funds centrally, these funds then go to their er, to you, er, there is a canton in switzerland, for example. well, if there, everyone has their own yes , the regional ones are the original division and therefore, accordingly, we can say that we will have a different practice. well , it is unlikely that it will happen again, then it will most likely simply mean that the population is in the regions, well, we are already on the gas market there is no, it has stopped, and the gas market for warm energy does not have it, it all stopped, it did not start there practically, but this will mean, i repeat, that for the population, then it is worth preparing for an increase in tariffs, because the local authorities will not be able to subsidize it, that is, support it at such at the appropriate level. and this will be a problem, so i think that everyone understands it. well , politically. well, if you look at the political section, they will not

experiment if the boys are still in a state of war. until it is clear, in which let's say that ukraine's economy is optimized, it means what will happen to the industrial enterprise and those who have left somewhere, that is , they want to return there, there are still some other options until this happens, talk about changes in the subsidy part, plus if it is not clear until let's say that how will we get through this heating season because it is also very important, well, the answer to the question here is already important, it does not depend on the regions in general, absolutely, everything is exclusively the decision of the central authorities, well, naftogaz, the operator gts is from the underground storages of ukrtransgaz, which is operated here already by the local government, it does not affect this in any way, and in other regions, in principle, in other countries, more precisely, in any european countries, there is also absolutely the same decision-making process , so it seems to me that subsidies in any case, today they will remain in ukraine, they will not play an important role, because this is, well, it objectively helps people and this is a

solution to the problem, and let's say it's uh yes it 's connected, of course, with, let's say, the movement concerning well, in the direction of saving resources, e.e., reducing the use of gas and heat. so that we pay for that gas, yes. and for example, she can save, that is, less, more gas, use less gas, for example, and use more money, a little bit saved somewhere, she is brought up a little more such a responsible position. so we put, and by the way, you mentioned about the monopolization that actually took place monopoly, more precisely, naftogaz, is it good in principle or is it evil? i understand that now it is not, if there were no decisions dictated simply by the war, but nevertheless, this is the decision, by the way, to build a

chp plant on autogas in particular, an additional thermal power plant will be built in lviv, and is there any, or is the state building well, or is it good for the state to keep ownership of these points, let's also try to talk. i don't know about mr. nazar, can you start, what is the position here e of the lviv government on saturday there was yuriy vitrenko, the head of the nak, there was a joint meeting with the mayor and the decision was announced that the chp will be built on an alternative to solid fuel e-fuel and what is interesting is that its capacity can cover up to 25% of the city's needs and the second important thesis is that they plan to launch this chp in february, that is, on the 23rd of the year, it is very fast, very fast, that is, if it

happens, of course, this is a big advantage, and the reduction of risks in this heating season. as far as i understand, this program is also planned to be implemented in other cities. substantial assistance, the city is unable to implement such a large infrastructure project on its own, the city does not have enough funds for this, and it is important here that for the coming year, the revenues of the budgets remain, let's say, those taxes that are received and they were not reduced because there were draft laws that provided for a decrease in the percentage of revenues there 60% of the budget from the personal income tax is included in the state budget. but we hope that it will remain because such objects are essential help for cities. yuriy , your position. is it good that monopoly is being strengthened naftogaz is good. of course, it is increasing. well, it is not really a competition, well, objectively. yes, i

will tell you. so, to me, in the conditions of war, martial law, and a priori it is clear that the concentration in the hands of the government, the state. it should take place within reasonable limits, including economic issues, so that there would be no panicky moods there, you know, everything else like that, if , by the way, the naftogaz monopoly issue itself is being investigated so very actively, and the verkhovna rada has created a special commission which he is engaged in this and has such a principle that the democrats have revealed. i think that there will be results, the service and so on. returning to the text, see the next question. this is naftogaz. this is, let’s say, an important point. they were also handed over and in fact three tests today. these are mykolaivsk, khersonsk, and severodonetsk. well, they practically lose their prospects. in which investments were these old tests, but they could be reconstructed, but they are gas , all of them are gas, gas is, in principle, the optimal

resource, i will tell you in general, if you look at it from the point of view from the point of view of use, we remain the dnipro of kryvyi rih, that is, practically. well, it is possible to develop there, but it is not enough. and therefore, accordingly, they naturally look for options for their development and go in the direction of other thesis of construction . those objects that are planned to be built, as far as is known, at least and well, they talked about it before, these are insignificant objects, that is, they will not bring, let's say, such a significant help to the energy system. yes, in the region, yes, we can certainly agree that it it will play, well, again, not directly there, you know, such a significant role, but it will replace at least a part of the gas that, uh, we will not consume, because actually it is important to say, you did not say that it will be on uh, solid fuel, that is, i said yes, i listened, sorry yes, it is a fuel resource. that is, it is not gas. yes, the total power there will be somewhere around 50-60 mw. let's see how much it will be, because until

we say everything is implemented, some changes may occur. well, in any case, another aspect is important here, what about one side and well searched there is an alternative and in general earlier it was necessary to develop planning well before i mean 10 years ago even 15 years ago and not so you know how we are now catching up with the wagon as if we were trying to jump into it well although i am also fine so here is the real question next what to build this is one thing, but then to ensure a stable supply of raw materials under the conditions. well, let's hope that the war ends as it were , and then of course there will be a peaceful plan for the development of the economy, but under martial law , it is difficult to predict the possibility access to this raw material, its transportation, that is, all this must be taken into account. this is an important role, but in principle, it seems to me that in this case, of course, it is. well, the fact that such projects will be implemented is normal, but i will tell you an important aspect. it just seems to me that in reality it is not naftogaz should do well, no , naftogaz, that is, they, well, no. for this, they were created by

this, theirs, this other company should have been created and should have been engaged, even if it was a state company, because experience well, probably most likely in such a case, then it would be necessary to involve private companies that have already gained experience in ukraine, because they were built and large, yes, objects, let's say, of small capacity, not even average . there is a market, it is small and in such a part it repeats the state could simply put this duty on another on another. it means nothing about the type of inefficiency, that is, people have always worked for them and they work mainly with gas, that is, they do not work in part. this is a different type

. let's see who else will implement, in fact, this construction is for this purpose. i think there are also journalists and investigators. you don't think it will go through the window. well, it will go somehow. nazar berbeka, a member of the lviv city council, was our guest. in fact, now it is being said that we are trying to catch up with some modern technologies, to jump on some train, but in addition to all that, now people who have stoves or stoves or stoves are sitting and they think it's good that we haven't destroyed them yet, because now they will come in handy. it seems to me that everyone has such a stove, maybe it has already been converted to gas, but with the possibility there is also solid fuel. well, about this heating, he thinks to himself that it's good, it's good that they really saved these stoves is it on foot, it is, it is, it is definitely not going

to freeze these winters, no matter what it is, what rules must be followed in such homes, let's see while the cities are preparing for the heating season and are worried about how it will pass through the attack of the russian invaders in the ukrainian villages, they are used to use the well-proven method of stove heating, however, often due to the malfunction of stoves and groups, fires occur in private houses, this is noted by rescuers and confirmed by statistics. after all, at the beginning of the year in there were more than 750 fires in bila tserkva and the district, of which 148 were fires in private homes. and this is three times more than in the previous period. last year, in order to avoid negative consequences, firefighters check villages for compliance with fire safety rules. a metal sheet of size 0 should be nailed right near the location of the stove opening. ,7 x0 it is forbidden to place combustible objects near

the stove at a distance of 1 m before the heating season soot in the stoves, the stove must be shaken from plaster to whitewashed and put in order as today we saw that there are violations, we point them out to people , draw their attention and hope that they will eliminate them . the pensioner and her children started preparing for the heating season back in the summer . they didn't use it, but as soon as it started , gas prices started to rise, well, you know, there was no money, salaries, one thing, pensions. well, in general, they were inserted in such a way that we switched to a group. well, we've been heating the stove for about five years. well, we regularly shake the soot and lubricate it in the summer. not every week, but at least once a month , we grease, plaster, and live like that. compared to

last year, the price of firewood went up, it was 3,400 . and now it is 5,5400. but mrs. iryna uses the stove on it, the woman cooks and heats a small house , for this she buries firewood and pellets she says she got used to this method of heating in 10 years, however, the rescuers found some violations that could cause a fire, so they reminded her that flammable things cannot be placed within a meter of the stove. take a look at this stove if i go somewhere. i try not to heat it up. well, because i leave it, too , it’s terrible. i use oak ones. well, somewhere like that, we take it to a small one and put 3-4 pallets overnight. i don’t have enough heat. it’s warm everywhere. in the room, it can just be lower . i have low ceilings, so i built them lower so that they would be warm. in addition , experts advise not to

overstress the power grid during cold weather and to monitor its serviceability, because at the same time, the operation of a kettle, refrigerator, heater, or other objects can also cause a fire to yaroslava, oleksandr kuga espresso bila tserkva and we are joining the conversation oleksiy goncharenko - this is the people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy good morning to you oh, i'm sorry andriy osadchuk i see you all in a delusion andriy osadchuk people's deputy of ukraine with us good morning some of you by another name yam licked so i watched, i forgive you for everything good morning good morning andriy osadchuk andriy osadchuk and lesya vakulyuk today on our morning air p andriyu eh, we all saw how putin announced the annexation of the occupied temporary ukrainian territories, and how did you react to this as a people's deputy, does it somehow

confuse you at all, what do you think about why putin took this step and what should we expect now? has already been expressed to the political community more than once, but that i personally was very interested in watching these events and that speaks very eloquently about the situation inside the kremlin. so it is that putin or collective putin is probably more correct it must be said how difficult the situation is that for the first time in all the time of my observation of him, he abandoned his favorite strategy, i would call it the strategy of obviousness.

this is his favorite phrase. well, it is obvious because he, as a good psychologist from the kgb, knows that the obvious is a cousin of justice. if people perceive the obvious to everyone, it is much easier to believe that the actions of the authorities are adequate. is rolling out support and so on, but what we see is that after the visit to samarkand, where he obviously received a slap on the neck from his senior comrades in the management of asia and where they actually told him, dear, let 's end the war quickly, he broke into the topic of referendums, which obviously did not work because the same apparatus or kiriyenko, who was actually appointed to manage this story and urgently because it was obvious that there is no point in referendums when they do not control the territories before the seizure of donetsk oblast

, not to mention zaporizhzhia and kherson oblast but despite these obvious failures, putin launched a mobilization for the referendums at the same time, which killed us, because these were probably the only tools that could be used to save the situation, which was just collapsing before his eyes, but as a result, even for the average russian consumer of propaganda, there are a lot of questions because there is no obviousness, because annexed de facto in the russian sense, territories that are not controlled by the kremlin at all, have never been controlled according to such logic, can alaska be annexed or anything and and is there more to this a very interesting legal aspect, which has also not been talked about much in recent days, there is a huge difference, as it seems to me, in the annexation of crimea in the 14th year and now the attempt to annex ukrainian lands in the 22nd year, because

in fact putin refused, not in fact de jure, he refused the land border with the russian federation and now it is not at all clear where the land border is the western border of the russian federation, i want to tell you that this can open up very interesting prospects for the post-war settlement , so this is all about what is inside the kremlin huge contradictions and a huge conflict, this is all about the fact that you see the kremlin is in simply incredible opposition and confrontation with each other, which indicates that the regime is probably experiencing some of the nice of its other times, so in no way will it have any influence on ukrainian foreign and domestic policy regarding foreign policy, again, i think this is a complete loss

for the kremlin, because even those countries that so carefully and quietly conducted a pro-russian policy and supported them little by little have now renounced all this because the same serbia and the same hungary are definitely not going to play this game, and therefore there is probably no one in this world who would be ready, at least somehow so quietly, to support annexation or a formal attempt at annexation, so this says it all, i'll end with that that the agony is evidence of huge internal problems of the leadership of the russian federation, and this is actually another impetus to the consolidation of support for the west, which we are actually observing even recently. i also told you about this conflict, which is obvious that is happening in the russian establishment there, and here

is this public criticism that they allow themselves even against putin, and it’s so strange to see on russian channels some experts who do not agree with that celebration and with this annexation of territory, who do not even are controlled for the most part or these démarches of kadyrov prigozhin, what do they testify to, or does this mean that putin is weakening as a figure, it is not even that interesting to look at the criticism and what the ministry of defense of the russian federation swallowed completely brutal mischief on the part of the quoted person, from a formal point of view, it is not at all clear who kadyrov is as a leader, but only one of the numerous subjects of the federations, but those two comrades are very different from these other powerful subjects of the russian federation, which have

their own and in this, of course, is their big difference , and this indicates that they have a very significant influence on the political decisions made in the kremlin, and all these internal contradictions that come out once again emphasize that putin is now reaping the fruits of his criminal past, because he grew up in the environment of such a criminogen and he built a system of management of the russian federation, which is actually built on the principle that putin's politburo is real, it does not even correspond to the formal field of the bureau of the so-called national security council, or somehow a representative is called because most of the people there are absolutely non-medicinal figures like medvedev herself and some other devices, but in reality there

are brothers and so on and this is all in a heap with such interesting subjects, like kadyrov, like prigozhin, who definitely has some kind of special relationship with the power centers of influence in the russian federation, the same terrorist as a moron who allows himself to do things that are impossible in theory. but if it is possible, then he is clearly playing according to the scheme of one see the kremlin. probably the fsb-shnik is talking about the disintegration of the centralized system of power in russia, it is bursting at the seams, and the key players, of course, are now thinking about how to maintain their influence and how to fight for power, because the specifics of the russian the federation has the fact that billions in wealth stolen by a huge number of people can be obtained only through the control of the political power in the

kremlin. i think that the question of the rate and the question of billions, how to save them, is now of interest to a huge number of people. there is much more than some formal victories on the ukrainian front that in buy, again, it is good news for us that the power in the kremlin is falling apart bit by bit and not even bit by bit it is disintegrating before our eyes. well, if you have seen this video where the occupied the territories are stolen territories in ukraine, uh, to russia, uh, where they stand like that with these ghouls and athos partozamis her and d'artagnan d' artagnan, putin in the middle, which is amazing, of course , macron received a long table, who was there, jose on the borel, too, at the long table table, and here he is standing next to other people and is not afraid that they can pee on him there and infect him, and then on the stage there is this same piece where

he calls on the entire audience, which is crowded on red square , to shout a little hooray and this cheers hmm putin is somehow so weak and insecure. and actually , he probably also understands that he is in some kind of dead end, or that this agony will not lead him to the point that he will still succeed in what he is only threatening for now, look at this red button, i think we can't even imagine how difficult his situation is, both emotionally and psychologically, he is cynical and ruthless, he was by and large correct, biden once said about him and he was not wrong, he is not at all used to losing and now everything that is happening there starting from the evening of february 24 everything is not going well everything is

absolutely giving the completely opposite result compared to what he wanted if he could see it for himself eh he is not used to losing it is also true besides he is not a very educated person at the expense of two years of sitting in the bunker under mandra, some preachers sincerely believe in many absolutely crazy ideas that he periodically puts forward to people, and this naturally creates quite significant risks , but here is all the management chaos that we have been observing since the 21st, since the announcement mobilization he is just saying that his government is very much weakened, he is trying to satisfy the interests of some of the most important radical groups, and this all indicates that the stakes have been made, the mobilization has been launched, but

you understand, by their nature, i mean putin, his fsb at a party they have been engaged in aphorisms all their lives they have been engaged in blackmail all their lives, these are people who are used to weaving some complex constructions in order to add such, but they are not people, there are direct fights, and despite the fact that they are very value their lives, i spoke about this in march and i insist now there is no chess there, there is definitely no chess there, and there are a huge number of people who want not just to live long, but to live long and have billions that can be used not in saratov or fishing in baikal and to use them for their purpose in today's big world, that's why all this adds up if you add it up. i think there are chances and risks . of course there are, but they are extremely small. thank you, mr. andriy