that is, he would have caused it, but it would hardly have been like that. well, let's say it like that. what we saw now is what is really there. how do we imagine that there was just a rupture of the pipe? maybe even it, well, if we show it like that, if it is figurative. that is, it is so whole. then she just unfolded it like that and that's it. well, someone can take a small tube at home and tear it open and look. yes, to at least visualize it uh. so for now i say until we see, i think we will see photos and videos, it will be provided by everyone parties because there will be european ones as well that is, the german think, the danish e-e services, the regulators, all the companies that built this gas pipeline, which they financed, more precisely, that is, the german, french, dutch, e-e, austrian, russian , gazprom will also be there, e-e, nord stream, the second company of all representatives exist, that is, they all receive information e, but in general, nothing on the one hand, there are no such complex, well, underwater gas pipelines attached. but on the other hand, it is simple, of course, their maintenance .

satisfaction and it really needs this , you know what, they actually stop for two years for such a serious prevention, because without it you can’t do it, that is, the examination of the pipe from the outside, er, from the outside, we mean from the top and from the middle, as well, everything is basically such a normal process so actively write all over the world, we have analyzed several leading editions of the guardian, the times and cnn, and let's see what versions they consider, referring to their international experts, the garden writes, referring to experts, what about pipes mines could have been set by divers who arrived alone, and they could blow them up a few days or even weeks later. the times already wrote that russia could blow up the northern streams with the help of ato underwater drones and even special robots that clean these pipes that were laid by cnn referring to two western scouts write that russian ships and submarines were seen near the site of damage to the northern currents, but it

is not yet possible to assert that these ships are related to the explosions. well it seems to me that to find out, well, any mass media can now describe any version and it will have the right to exist, because we will probably never know what will happen, even well, what about the analysis when the gas leak stops and there i will raise these pipes to the surface. there will still be different versions, but now we can speak for sure about the fact that there were four explosions, all of them occurred in different sections of two gas pipelines , and this is one hundred percent, in my opinion, confirmation that the explosions were unnatural, they were artificial and here it is and here the simple main question is who can be invented by the bulchak and these explosions, because on the one hand , the western world says that it is clearly beneficial for russia not to pay fines on

unfulfilled contracts, on the other hand, russia comes out and says that, sorry, we invested billions of dollars, we built energy channels in order to make money, and here someone destroyed them, it is not profitable for us, exactly how do we figure out who it can be , let's consider all versions. get more about the contracts. that's why russia, this can be the budget. it's an interesting point, actually , because first of all, it's really an assumption, that is, an assumption, because we still don't know what really happened there. we can't talk about the versions. there will be registration really, well , probably sooner than all, here is our own assumption about the version, yes, about the fact that it really happened, there was an explosion, how was it all there ? yes, if modern technologies are satellites and so on, yes, i think that it cannot be said that it remained unnoticed, that is, they even mentioned the

robot that examines the pipe, so it still has its number. they have all the chips now, that is, gps navigators, as if they were trackers and so on to say unequivocally that there it is very easy to remove it and discard it, even ships that turn off their gps transponders, yes, that is, they seem to turn them off, well, they are visible, yes, they are visible, you say correctly, yes, everyone knows everything, just legally, you you can't provide proof because if we say that, well , let's say the word spy, spy work, yes, then you can't provide it in court because you didn't have a court sanction, if you say it like that on television, like the movies say, but there are already such things. yes, it's true, who benefits really well, besides the fact that ukraine was pointed there and poland was pointed there because a new gas pipeline was opened somewhere nearby, somewhere there, that is, there are two sides of russia, the united states, this is the most popular version, let's say it's an assumption if look at russia like that, so do i. it's hard for me to understand the logic of why this should be done. why. because first of all, the game did not go that way in europe, that is, europe

limited the gas supply . russia, let's say, reduced the supply even before it divided europe, and then through the nord stream, because it was not possible to repair the turbines, well, that's how it turned out, it also turned out very interestingly, because canada lifted the sanctions on the repair of turbines, but they are their sent to germany, although according to the contract it had to be done in russia, that is, for me it was like this, you know how the word is, the game is like that. that is, we are adults, all of us are adults, like bi who receive a good normal salary , highly qualified, educated, that is, they make such a mistake, so it was russia received these turbines and says that we don't have enough documents there , so we can, that is, we gave them these trump cards themselves, you know, if in their hands, that is, but in any case, if they even look at them, they should be returned. so who blew up this pipe anyway? how much is it rationally, even if we imagine that russia does this, undermines our assumption, then the next question is that they should do it in

order to really completely break relations with europe, or spit on these 20 billion dollars. this is to reorient to another market, because money needs to be earned for them, this is a business in which for all countries to sell gas to earn money is normal, hydrogen became more expensive in european hubs, look, they don’t sell their pipeline gas at the hubs, they contracts sell gas where the price today is $354. it is tied according to the formula to oil, that is, in fact, on the stock exchange from the price. they sell there from the power of interest 20, this and that, these are the countries that take this gas, that is, why do they often reduce the purchase of gas because it really is in the contract, for example, you 60 % you take according to the contract price, 40% you take according to the price of the hub, i.e. $2,000. and here you are. you understand that it is expensive. you bought that gas at a good price, but at a high price you say yes. no, we don't need to. the economy, therefore, in principle, if you look at the fact that there are 180 billion e-e european, well, 190 european and turkish gas market, yes, the european gas market is 150, that is,

the question is good. there are not even these 55 billion e-e of russian gas through the northern stream, the second, well , the northern stream, the first, the second stream, even did not start working, by the way, it did not even start working, and the first one, i’m sorry, the remarket stopped working from september 1, from august 31, he liny started gas too, that is, there is no gas, that is, get out of your gas, reorient to another market, it’s hands will occupy the single market - this is the asian market , today it is objectively asian, the power of siberia, the power of siberia, two that they plan to build and there are no contracts concluded, mostly the gas pipeline is being built and immediately at least a memorandum of this or that is signed so that you know what you have you don't just really throw money away, so you can say unequivocally that you know, well, how often do you know how people think about russians, as if well, they are interesting people, they characterize what they still have, maybe, yes, but there will be some, you know. well, to me it's hard to say that it was never like that, all these arguments that you give are the arguments that russia is giving now. yes, of course, it turns out that we were told it was not howling, of course, but if we start looking for logic in the

actions of russia at the beginning of the war here over the last month , i will not find it because i am saying that it is difficult for me to say that this is really possible. maybe this is the principle. yes , he acted like this here too, but if you look at the usa, then the united states of america immediately has a very simple explanation. yes, they want to sell more of their lang to the european market. well, of course they blew it up there is no russian gas pipeline, the gas market is being freed , yes, logically, everything is fine, but let’s go back to the first argument. they didn’t work, these gasses , firstly, they didn’t work, secondly, you understand, look , it’s not such a large volume of american lg gas, yes, they increased for e- in the last half-year there and plus, july, august, look , they made 50 billion, here they will make 70 billion by the end of the year, 80 of exports to europe, and they exported somewhere around there, well, up to 50, that is, in them there, well, not twice more. well, now billions of cubic meters, this is approximately the same capacity of the northern powerhouse, yes plus or minus, but it’s still possible to say that for the sake of it

there you can commit such an act . we have already collected something somewhere, that's how we showed these flows there, the question is really what in the conditions, well, such, and i mean, today's powerful technical capabilities. yes, i think that there will be traces, there will be traces, of course . to see it is of course an open question, therefore, in any case, in any case, look at the important point, i saw this and i can agree with it, and that in fact this is not an accident. i really believe that it was really external after all. such a military intervention, yes. that is, it is a very negative process in general, which starts, you know, like the domino effect, but it does not fall, and the second question, that is, we can see the situations of people, god. international infrastructural in fact, this is a problem. that is, we

can see it can happen, well, anywhere in the world, i wouldn’t even say . somehow they made a mistake, they came out of the statement. well, there is a different situation there. naftogaz filed a lawsuit in court to prevent them from fulfilling their obligations to pay for transit. well, they closed the route from there, and gazprom said that it would not correspond to the actions of the contract and in general they said that due to the fact that switzerland is where the trial is to be held and swedish and sweden are where swedish law is stipulated in the contract that these are unfriendly countries for russia now that's why they would question court decisions so to speak, in general, you can say they can and not recognize that, accordingly, we were talking about sanctions, that they put the word sanctions . of the season yes, this is what we are waiting for, it was already an attempt to create an artificial man-made disaster

in the gas transportation system at night, when russia increased the pressure . gts stated this and more, then we simply saw that the problem really lies in the fact that larger volumes of gas should have gone to the court, but i will also judge it in the sumy direction. that is, there is a judge and the sumy region, and in luhansk region, the security guard with security guards, the code was closed because the russian troops seized the compressor station, everything, that is, naftogaz refused to accept this gas from there, and because of the judge, in principle, the russians. as far as i know, this is also all open information, they really, well, look, they were preparing what we started to say in this bypass gas pipelines, that is, they did not just build them, but left them to themselves so that everything would continue, they closed the compressor stations, that is, they took it down, literally speaking, that is leave even if there was now an idea to restore and increase the supply of gas, physically

there will be nothing to do, that is, there are no compressors, this is just a question, that is, in fact, we are there. we are transiting 40 billion according to the contract . i propose to take a short break and talk further about how events will develop further in the context of the fact that the eu has publicly announced that they are gradually renouncing russian gas, are energy independent and how to consider these events in in the context of energy, we will talk about the independence of europe in a few minutes. he will leave because of the war. i know that the goalkeeper protects the goal from the enemy's ball, but how to protect it from the enemy's russian rocket. in

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1+1 is returning to the air, the night is not worth it, we are talking about sabotage, terrorist attacks, mysterious explosions on the nord stream, interestingly, they stopped here, exactly what day did it happen ? it was very well presented in the media, and it was accompanied by the statements of materishamyrovetsky that, in fact, we are completing the stage of disconnecting the energy system of europe from russia , and these explosions are happening here. if we talk about the energy independence of europe from russian gas, we know the statements of scholtz e- e chancellor of germany that germany cannot give up

russian gas even in war conditions, but at the same time there is a global position of the eu that not now but step by step we will every day move away from russian gas and russian oil, and in the context of the energy independence of europe, what does this event affect? ​​well, the baltic pipe. it 's simple. let's put it this way. it's a different story, because first of all , it's a gas pipeline that already existed, and it was added from norwegian deposits, and that's gas if in denmark, then the idea was actually realized to lay it to poland, and first of all, its volume is small, 10 billion cubic meters, that is, it is not equal, but for poland, it is enough, then, in principle, it imported roughly 14 billion cubic meters mainly they are from in russia, the portuguese used to take gas from gazprom. then they began to switch, they began to take gas from germany , the same russian. only if it was called german gas, you know reverse gas, that’s how we have slovak ones there yes yes yes very similar well, at least

that was the formal position and uh poland's goal was to really minimize dependence on russian gas. they built a terminal in their mind , and then the terminal was originally designed for about 5 billion e-e cubic meters of gas, and in principle 10 billion. covers their needs, but the question is, what is it, is there going to be 10 billion cubic meters? this is an open question. first , there is no contract. that is, you have built a contract. there is no reason why the norwegians do not want to sign . they have no resources, that is, practically, even today, when they literally a month ago, they unfrozen nine fields, that is, licenses, to be more precise. why did they freeze them ? they froze because there was a decline in production and it became more expensive to extract this gas, it was simply not profitable for them to extract it, and they shifted to other fields.

production by the norwegians. they are a relatively young such a gas country, yes. if you say so, that is, not only in the 80s, they began to increase the pace, but already in 1977 , they began production on the north sea shelf and, accordingly, today they do not see, as it were, let's say so will they have the opportunity to give this gas to poland because if there is no northern stream, you and i said that if there is no gas, there is no russian gas , now there is only norwegian gas. well, the turkish stream is ukraine, as it were, southern europe, italy, er , southeast europe and western europe go north, it will then fight for this norwegian gas, and who will win in this fight, the poles, for example, is germany there, for example, france and belgium? well, this is an open question, that is, that is why this is a problem in relation in general, if, let's say, the crisis that exists in europe. so you say that they will actually reduce what they set. yes, i think they will draw conclusions, of course, from the war in ukraine, or from

this global crisis. everything has changed there and they will follow the path of really, let's say this, the search for alternative gas, well, it will be a very long way , it will not be a year there or two. you understand, it will be a long time. uh no was the popularity of the construction of these e-e terminals to liquefy this gas, then this solves the issue tactically, that is, the main thing for europe now is to survive this winter, and everyone understands that by next winter, europe will be able to find alternative ways of supplying gas and build the necessary infrastructure for liquefied gas and but europe can get through this winter without russian gas, i don’t know, that is, i think that it will only be due to savings on the population, because the population is the main consumer of gas, in general, it is 60% practically of all gas, industry consumes only 20% of gas as a whole, and industry in any case

is already saving, and metallurgical plants, they squeeze a lot of gas, well, many have already closed , well-known companies that work in ukraine, they are also represented there in europe, they closed their plants they stopped there, the question is different, you understand , look at this alternative, it’s so easy to find liquefied gas. it’s like a good one, but it has the following problems: first of all, it’s a problem of the actual terminals that exist, then it’s the same with the sea, they come to the sea, and then this gas must be delivered, roughly speaking, to if it is somewhere in the middle of germany, there is italy to the north, eh, there is no infrastructure of the infrastructure of soviet times, built taking into account the fact that these women go to those places where it is needed, where industry where there are big enterprises there, father, to rebuild all this, it will be gas. he would, yes, it is convenient, so i know that he brought it a little where it is needed quickly, and that's it. well, when it comes to winter , you ask about winter, do you worry about europe in winter or not the question has always been that there was direct gas from the pipe

, that is, from norway, which we talked about from russia, that is, it is actually 30% of gas, even more in recent years , that is, direct gas from the pipe, that is, lg gas. it is not direct, it comes periodically, plus if there is a problem the shortage of tankers, their reservation , insurance, all this is also imposed, it is not easy mathematics to say that it will be easy to find a replacement for this turbo-conducting gas, there is practically no way, i will tell you, there is no country ukraine can help with what russian gas yes very seriously, we transit russian gas . it comes out. it turns out that europe will freeze. europe will freeze and remain in ukrainian. this is a storage facility, but it is closed because there are russian troops there and the operator of the station is in novoosk. she was, yes, she is not working now, she has stopped working. well, from march to uh, august, she worked practically for a month, and in two electricity they grow in ukraine, being under the control of the russian army, in fact, yes, ukrenergo

they gave commands and they carried them out kakhovskaya hpp executes commands like this hybrid work yes that is , in principle, if there will be such a need, if there will be a political decision of ukraine, first of all, a political military decision, a military decision, unequivocally, to start these stations in principle yes, because the russians hochma hochmaly they are they also fulfill the contract, yes, conditionally, yes, the heads submit applications there, they submit applications every day, there, conditionally, every day with applications, they say we are ready, then you don’t want to understand that ukraine is leaving, but you are talking about what kind of power of the united states' export of liquefied gas is approximately 70 billion cubic meters for europe, for europe, this is a volume that is actually 50% of the 140 billion that sound like the needs of the european union and understand. this is russian, that gas is russian, that is, half of russian 70 billion of gas. see what i mean when, for example, that gas will mainly go to the european market. and this is gas that also goes

to the asian market, that is, in fact, see the first half of the 22nd year. yes, there was a block down in china also, they have also significantly reduced their gas supply, and accordingly, this gas has gone to europe and america. now they are all sitting at a low start and waiting for the growth season to begin. go, he was always imprisoned. if you say such a word to an asian child. there were always higher prices of thousands of dollars . for us, it was oh-oh-oh, what a huge price. well, when 3900 did not become here. yes, on the european market. and when did the price become high in europe? even in 1500 dollars, it’s great, it’s such a business . of course, this can be understood because american gas is, in principle, expensive in terms of its cost, it’s basically really the extraction of shale deposits. yes, for example, it is subsidized by the state, it dates back to the usa, well, it is supported by the manufacturer itself, in the end, it’s fine, i think if it’s ok, well if there is only if you look at the fact that it is such a job and jobs and so on, therefore, in principle, you can say that this will close the issue unequivocally

, but we americans cannot, after all pipeline gas is the only option for such, you know, stable supplies. it is the closest country to the european union. this is russia, so when we talked there, i said that in principle, in the business environment, in trends, yes, they are sitting and waiting for this business. peace, yes, everything will stabilize. and it is possible it will be wiped there during a certain time, start everything, put gas in it, that is, there are such expectations, that is, here the question is about the abolition of this dependence on russia, this question of gas consists in the plane of refusing part of the consumption in general gas, switching to another alternative yes, but let's go back to the accident, yes, swedish seismologists have already conducted a study and we recorded an exclusive comment, they say that the explosion had a power of 2.3 points and compare it with the powerful explosives of the second world war, and we recorded the comment of björn lund of the swedish seismologist of the swedish national union center let's listen the swedish national seismic

network recorded two explosions near the nord stream gas pipeline one southeast of of the danish island of bornholm and one in the northeast of this island. we managed to determine that these explosions did not occur as a result of an earthquake, they are not movements of the underwater floor, but explosions . at the moment we can only say that it was an explosion our data shows that it is two or three explosions that we are investigating but we can not say what exactly detonated we do not have any information that showed us what happened we we can compare the size of the explosions to other data, and this is a very preliminary conclusion. we are not yet fully convinced. but we can first say that it is 100 or 200 kg of tnt. well, let's leave this

question for the next broadcasts. analyze something, we will talk about it, but we want to return to our native ukraine. about what we should do with the coming winter, we understand that russia can play some kind of dirty game with our gas transportation system and we somehow have to pass this winter, what in ukraine is the question of preparation and readiness for this winter in terms of providing us with gas, we understand the infrastructure, they can destroy any of our chp plants, well, we don't have to talk about that, there is nothing here to discuss. but in the matter of readiness to provide gas well, in general, why put the question of the military aside? because this risk is any day at any second, and for the energy infrastructure as a whole , we are ready in principle, that is, we even have 15 billion planned to pump underground storage let's inject for sure a little more than 14 billion - 14.5 tons of coal will be almost 2.5 tons. well, as if enough, everything

would seem great, well, the issue of gas again rests on the transit of russian gas, that is, if it is there, then we would dry up 12 billion well, under the condition of a decline in the economy. unfortunately for the industry, the population is 14 high. well, if the transit stops, then the heat will begin, as they say. yes, just the opposite. yes, in quotes , that is, cold. in my opinion that is, it can be 16° colder there, eh, it’s a problem with the gas, plus, if you understand, you say so, but i think it should be said, you know, you don’t want to be told later that someone there, someone there, knew something or someone, well, in ukraine, too such an accident can happen, for example, with explosions and everything on the gps, that is, i don't know this, but what we said is that it's like domino, something happened today, there tomorrow, it can happen here, a precedent, and that's why it's very dangerous, this risk is, in principle, the sphere of the military armies of law enforcement agencies, so that is, i think so

the key question is also yes, for example, this will be an important moment, will the transit of russian gas be preserved if it is not preserved, if it is disconnected by any method or human factor, yes, or will it simply be a political decision, economic of gazprom, since they basically announced sanctions, for example, how they call it then really then the gas will simply stop and then the problem will be that we will pump from the underground stairs to the east to the west oh to the east to the center to the south and it will not be enough, it may not be enough, we will save money then everyone if everything the population needs to be morally ready for this, it 's just about the next years, we'll have to survive this year , i'm very old, yes, this year we'll survive, it 's europe. the heating season is more precisely 20 already in the third year of the 24th year. yes, it can be more difficult, in fact , because again, that resource of gas, yes. it has to be taken from somewhere. well, plus, after all, the political situation, yes , the military and economic situation. yes, it also affects well. yes and here we can't predict my uh, the period of forecasts is now reduced to one, a few

days ago, because we see what happened with the northern streams, no one expected it, but it creates and starts a certain chain of events, let's hope that difficulties will pass ukraine this winter er, our gas transport and energy thermal system of heat supply will be preserved and er, well, the regime this winter, politics, economy, culture , sports, technology, this is what the news looked like until february 24, 2022, today there is one topic that is relevant: war for the sake of information security and comprehensive coverage of the situation in the country, watch our espresso news channel and the espresso euro program for ukrainian refugees in europe, a joint broadcast with the atf channel, radio svoboda programs , voice of america time-time programs, inclusion of public television journalists, bbc news

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