well, do the units now rely more on the help of volunteers and, after all, there are different civilian drones, or are there also some military military professional solutions eh, look, the line in our country is so wide eh and deep and along the front therefore, there must be different ones at the front drones and for example, if you are talking about units that are at the front, then it is obvious to them drones that fly in four for up to 10 km, it is enough to know what is happening around and there is conditionally even what is higher on the screen to push away the equipment there or to destroy this technique drones alone and in this class there are a lot of options , including commercial ones, of course, drones if you take the level already there, er, further there for somewhere up to 20 km and beyond, there are not so many er drones that can fly that far and fly not very for a long time

, it is necessary that our units should be saturated with various means from e-e, really such commercial ones that can be occupied by anyone and brought to those that are specialized there. the type of byraktar, therefore, in principle, at the front, all e-e drones and the class there are volte rotary and class wing and all others of different options that can be that can be brought because we will always lack them, the closer to the diagonal moment, the more divergent the material is than those that are further in the dust, if the referee back to osadok, i will ask that they are synchronized with the means that there is damage, that is, if there is a memorial at the front, a maximum of a mortar, then it is clear that drones that fly for 100 km will be superfluous, because

they have nothing to impress there and scout in them. there is no need, respectively, on the contrary. if you have we have a means of defeat there at an altitude of km, then you must have an electron that corrects you and detects these uh, there are also super expensive uh, global hawks, and uh, they were stated more than once in such uh, letters of wishes for help that came out the american military has not yet provided them with the appearance of at least a few units of these global off strategic reconnaissance drones so that they would bring in this war for our capabilities. well, i will add that really the further we will see the longer the drone is in the air the more we can collect information and er already prepare this operation or impression because the more such drones the better and

er we also need to understand that we need ready pilots because even for reconnaissance drones for example on the 18th we understand that we need to prepare special anti-votes because this it is not the same as taking some dj altel and you can immediately prepare the questions as in the training of pilots and obviously if we ask for them we already have these pilots and that means when we get them we will definitely do some uh interesting uh interesting thing thank you very much, mr. ruslan meanwhile, a poll on twitter launched by london mask, should ukraine go to neutral status zara to give up crimea is not supported so far 60% on twitter voted against such an idea and 39% supported the idea of ​​the mask listen , she wanted to say mr. ruslana, the stick is a member

the board of a non-governmental organization, intelligence , leaders in the it direction, he was just talking to us about aerial reconnaissance, i wanted to ask about what to do with enemy drones, and whether to prepare cans of tomatoes , cans of cucumbers, and well, you didn't give a word put er, they found out, i remember what it was, what did these jokes say that a ukrainian woman knocked down a drone of a jar of cucumbers, it turned out to be true, only it was not cucumbers, but tomatoes, and this woman in dnipropetrovsk region lives er, the roots of her er lviv , eh. it's an interesting story about her. she was studying to be a journalist, but she sells household chemicals. she joked with her friends on twitter. it is not known what she said there. it is not known that elon musk missed the fourth grade. well, he really missed it because there were other patients or something, and this process was also the history of foreign countries and there. he writes, well, now everything has become clear, but with the crimea and

so on, keep learning, learning, it's never too late, the panel is wrong, what can you do to catch up. by the way, prytula has announced a fundraiser for a history book for ilon, the mask, so it just might be a pilot who talks on her own and basically explains it, maybe with pictures and everything let's go further with us further in touch roman, this evening, this is the director of research of the analytical center of dixigroup, mr. roman good morning good morning, let's talk with you about the energy sector of ukraine, the energy sector of ukraine, and the question in question if we talk about recently it came out very well, well, the article of the minister of economy and vice prime minister ta sardenko came out, which says that ukraine has great prospects for us

invest for investments and we need to attract now and the article that is the most er where it is planned to attract more than 170 billion the minister's opinion - this could just be the energy industry what is happening in the energy industry now, there are some processes that look quite alarming precisely in the sense of the development of the market in our country, so they launched the gas market in our country, there are attempts to monopolize the electricity export market, moreover, monopolization by people who in one way or another were still involved in andrii derkach's team, how do you assess it now, the events, well, of course, the summary that was announced, it concerns the post-war recovery, when investments will be attracted, the construction of new facilities if we are talking about the current state

of the gas and electricity markets. so far, everything is quite strongly regulated, there is a regime of imposing special duties in the gas market, where there are either fixed or preferential prices for low categories of e-e consumers on the market of electricity, if we are talking about the wholesale market , then there are low price restrictions, the so-called price skips, that is, limit prices, and there are a number of, let’s say, restrictions on the terms of electricity trade, if we are talking about the retail market, then there are fixed tariffs for the population, respectively, the state of both markets is still such that the task is survival, the task is survival in the conditions of war with minimal influence on the population, which, i say , are not very capable, and already after the war it is obvious that all these regulations, all these restrictions will be necessary

gradually remove, return to the liberalized model of markets where you can freely sell and buy gas and electricity at the prices that determine the market, it is necessary to strengthen supervision and monitoring, as it happens in the european union, and er, in the end, move to such er markets, and of course this will give the right signals for investors hm, what will uh, of course, count every dollar in your investments or every euro of your investments , and under such conditions, of course, we can those billions mentioned in the column of our government and what naftogaz naftogaz has actually become a monopolist on the a-a distribution gas market for the population, in particular, is this good, does it have its

advantages, or is this situation also not normal, because we saw in the example, it seems to me that there was a crisis in the spring when there were very big problems with fuel gas stations. what is state regulation? sometimes it is very inflexible and it leads to the opposite results. that is, there is a deficit and so on. well, if we are talking about the market of petroleum products , then there are relatively many players here, and he himself is in in principle, he evened out the deficit that existed due to the contracting of fuel from european countries, eh, that's eh, that's why, well, that is, it is hardly possible to talk about any kind of monopoly there, of course, from time to time, certain things happen, which eh, are exposed by the antimonopoly committee, and there is a certain reaction there on these things, when we talk about the gas market, naftogaz, well, de facto , was already the main accumulator of the gas resource for the population, simply this gas was sold through

a number of gas buts, and there were more private structures, now there are such there are no intermediaries. naftogaz directly sells to the public. of course, such concentration of the market in one hand. even if it is a state-owned company, it is not normal. but then again, the conditions in which the market currently exists are not normal, these are certain extraordinary conditions, and as i said, if it will be withdrawn little by little regulation of the guts, if competition was allowed after the war, then this situation should be corrected, and competitors should then have the opportunity to compete, we talk all the time now about the population, but it also goes for gas for different private companies for consumers for business and is the situation there transparent enough now? does everyone get the same price? is everything

okay here in the conditions of monopolization and it is unlikely that it will pass now? a separate comment about how naftogaz, for example, buys gas on the wholesale market, e-e , one of the exchange platforms was chosen, which, let’s say, is not very transparent, not very transparent, and there are doubts whether this exchange platform works with according to the relevant license, how much for his violation of the license conditions, they do not publish the low conditions or a number of the results of those auctions according to which naftogaz buys gas on the wholesale market, as regards e-e consumers other than the population, again, they are not included in the e-e of those consumers on which

the special duties of naftogaz are extended, i.e. they buy gas at morning prices. and is there at all such a danger that the situation of war and this situation is now opaque, it can relatively speaking create new oligarchs in us, these are people who simply control now these flows in the energy sector, of course there is such a threat, but we see that the main focus is now on state companies. that is , in fact, such a soft nationalization takes place in many markets, when a state company is created, which takes over, for example, export of electricity, despite the fact that other companies in the same energy atom have their own trailer structure, why is a single state trainer being created there, why and what is the motivation for this, it is

quite difficult to explain to the open market. the state company naftogaz well, it is clear that this is the only player that has a certain financial resource and a gas resource in order to ensure its supply there at the most favorable prices, but yes, the question is how long such a system can last and how long, let's say, in the future it will be necessary to subsidize such activity if it will be unprofitable, for example well , the secret is that now the state company relies on a lot of, let's say, social obligations, they are without it is clear that in wartime it can and is sometimes necessary, but when we return to normal market relations, because there will be questions . how justified are these social obligations?

state companies are still not executors of the social policy of the state, where they are economic entities. they have to work there in the market, earn money, pay taxes, dividends to the state budget, and the state already should perform the function of social protection of the population there and help those who need it. well, finally, i will ask there in july. but it seems that the verkhovna rada passed a law on energy efficiency there. well, and that to what extent this law was implemented, how successfully more energy-efficient became uh-uh-uh, i don't know the homes of ukrainians and so on, that is, how much ukrainians are now uh-uh heating thanks to this law, well, the law by itself does not solve anything, yes, the issue is really its implementation and well, we understand that in a few months the bee law

will not work effectively because such a framework law involves the development of a series of procedures and rules and a certain logic of its deployment, one of those logics that certain duties rely on the companies of energy resource suppliers, another logic is that the responsibility rests with the communities, who must then develop certain plans for sustainable energy development, and a certain responsibility rests with the state, which must develop a program to stimulate efficiency. so far , we see that in the draft budget for the next year the energy efficiency fund is provided for uah 0. well, it is clear that if the main expenses went to defense for some basic social payments , but the fact that there is uah 0 is also somewhat alarming

the signal is that's why now efficiency is mostly in the hands of the people themselves, in the hands of proactive communities and proactive heads of condominiums who are thinking about how to get through the winter as safely as possible, well, uah 0 is the most effective for energy efficiency well, then we'll just pay for everything during the winter itself fuel season, this also probably has its own logic. thank you, mr. roman. roman nitsovich , director of research at the dixigroup energy center, joined us. we talked a little about energy and what, gentlemen, we will have now international relations yes, for sure international relations should be international relations while we are waiting for our doctor to be added to our ether well, while we are waiting for her, we will

tell you a little about the new british intelligence i love british scientists and british development british intelligence says that in russia, there are problems not only with mobilization, but with conscription, they don’t have, they don’t have, they don’t have the equipment, how to train mobilized , conscripted, mobilized personnel. in our stage, said the expert of the defense express edition, the military expert serhii zgurets, somehow they are going very slowly, and the mobilization of 300,000 is going to be collected, and i can’t possibly collect it, who knows? there is still a secret point about the fact that they can mobilize up to a million to mobilize at such a pace, they need to go abroad someday to look for those russians who do not want to fight and are fleeing the country, but they do

n't really care about ukraine. let's talk with hanna hopko, she is a people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, the head of the verkhovna rada's committee on foreign affairs 2014-2019, we are glad to see you on our air ms. hanna, congratulations, i congratulate you all too. please tell me what messages you are going to this forum with. we already know them. our father, this is it. well, actually, because for the last 8 months, these are the key messages for the western audience. the sooner ukraine wins and defeats russia, the sooner the world will be freed from nuclear blackmail. from the increase in prices for energy products and the defeat of totalitarianism means a powerful signal to

other authoritarian regimes, especially those that possess nuclear weapons, so that they do not even dare to blackmail other countries, their neighbors or the world, that is, the key is being lost, and that is why this is a security forum, there will be many weapons manufacturers from different countries there will be separate closed meetings where we will discuss our most urgent needs , taking into account the successes of the ukrainian armed forces. this is a question of the international tribunal of the evidence base confiscation of property now because the war requires daily expenses and we know that approximately 40 billion dollars is a deficit budget for the next year, children need to know where to get this money. well, i will speak at

panel discussions today because what how can inter implement the aggressor, where will there be representatives of the so-called, as i call the opposition, there will be representatives of germany and lithuania, and we will discuss what scenarios of the disintegration of russia, i would prepare for them, what is generally happening inside the russian federations, and what kind of responsibility is it in general, just like after the collapse of the soviet union? is it ready for disintegration? who is a russian, a russian name that says that it is not necessary to ask about responsibility to ukraine, especially

ukrainians ? does not say that russian society is also involved in the crimes of the regime and should bear responsibility in the form of reparations, as happened with nazi germany after the defeat, here are these and the opposition, which for some reason did not speak out against buchi, mariupol, but is now asking all countries to allow those fleeing from partial mobilization to provide asylum and the so-called opposition that is asking for money for the media and for journalists. i would like to ask where 31 years after the collapse of the soviet union all these people are. well, the real opposition in russia, like anna politkovska, is a lot the rest of them are no longer alive. and those who do not dare to tell the truth now, being actually in

exile or in washington or so on, they are waiting and see in the victory of ukraine a window of opportunity to come to power, but this is not a window of opportunity for to really start changes, to de-internalize russia, to recognize the republics' right to self-determination, and we know that just as chechnya declared its independence , many indigenous peoples are now talking about their rights and what they will demand in independence after the irreversible processes inside the country begin. er, russian journalist, er, blogger, politician, er, ksenia sobchak said that she is being asked to record it in bad russian, and they say that for export, she will not criticize her country, er, many ukrainians in particular er, ms. ksenia admired what she did and

thought that she was just the one who terribly cheers for ukrainians. well, sometimes actions speak louder than words, and then words and they speak in vain. you often probably meet and cross paths with russian politicians or journalists somewhere abroad they somehow approach, just some kind of human, you know there, when people approach, they say sorry well, actually there i am very ashamed of what the president of my country is doing i am very ashamed of how people in my country react to me it's a shame that they support there or there is no such thing at all, fortunately this is because international diplomacy, which is very often so pragmatic when nations are focused on their interests and when we, well, i saw a lot of high-level e-e officials who are career-oriented and who conduct meetings almost look at their watches when they are already going to another meeting or what you already

know so well memorized phrases about the protection of democracy about how they are with ukraine how they sympathize there but in fact you see a growing heart here is the beginning a full-scale invasion when already in rzeszów when everyone was afraid to go to ukraine when we brought photos of the dead when we just took photos of the wounded on our phones and showed them to everyone to look at them and especially the wounded after phosphorus bombs when we brought rockets from the yavoriv training ground to latua and they said, look, give us an air defense system, because these missiles are now protecting us with our bodies , we are actually destroying the ukrainian land, and that is why we were breaking through with some people, trying to do something human but i met i am very happy with people who helped to achieve, for example, meetings at the highest level with the

us secretary of state or the prime minister of other countries so that they heard the truth and this is governments knowing that and knowingly helping us so that their leadership heard from our mouths this pain eh these demands eh and somehow also got through and made ukraine their priority and accelerated the delivery of weapons and we were not even talking when one person of a very high level said well i am very ashamed that we could choose this genocide but we are not made enough efforts and it was recently when i went to washington i say you know you can now prevent nuclear blackmail and attack by putin and in this way i want to understand that this is a very painful topic for ukrainians because we knew the third nuclear potential in the world and at all thought that in exchange

for this, we would not simply receive, after a few years, the genocide against ukraine, that is why there are people with whom we must work. but the most important thing is that we must continue to work with society, because all politicians are oriented to the requests of the people, and even if we let's remember the 500,000 e-e against the people who went to the protests in berlin, then it began to change germany's position, as well as the constant advocacy visits of the demands of the action, so it is important to tell stories like tyra yulia paevska e after e three months of captivity in helsing and the commission in washington in told the us congress about hell with the demand to recognize the russian aggression against ukrainians as genocide, with the demand to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism , and when the congressmen asked what kind of attitude she had as a civilian and why, how were russians in general

there are other additional people who think, you know, to get such testimony is also extremely important in order to, uh, continue to fight for the event to have more than just a strategy, we will be with you as long as you need it and we say no, we want you to say we we will be with you to a joint victory and we will speed it up together with you and we will give you enough weapons so that, you know , as they say, quantum leaps return our territories, and not when we receive dosed weapons and, in fact, counteroffensive, first leave from there with minimal support, sacrificing the lives of our soldiers, but everyone in the west very euphorically and enthusiastically accepted the successes of the ukrainian armed forces, great gratitude to the general

, who is helpful to everyone, but we call them friends. and you can imagine , because we are hymers with atakams, which you are still hesitating about to give we received in march, actually, i also wanted to ask about this forum that will be held in warsaw. he, er, has such a title of the people of the country, knights of freedom, and i, all these rhetoric even from elon mask and his survey yesterday there was a lot of noise that everyone was commenting on, even our president zelenskyi, and hmmm, i didn’t need much for me, for example , as a citizen of ukraine, i would like to hear what you and i are doing, i would like to hear one day what you are with us, well, actually, or correctly, they said, there will be an award ceremony today from the people of ukraine and

the first lady will receive an award. but here we have also invited the wives of our prisoners of war and representatives of the mayors of cities who will talk about the damaged houses and the importance of restoring them. there will also be those people who prisoners passed, so the reformers who deal with weapons, because now all ukrainian representatives of civil society, the main focus is to give more weapons so that ukraine will win faster, absolutely for us, also, well, it is important. it seems to me to stop being this frontier. recently, there was a discussion about this, just stop being like this, very very it's cool to be the people of some wall that holds back some zombies from the north using some images from game of thrones and the series but it's much better to be a part of

in terms of this westeros, i.e. western civilization , this is what we are talking about. it seems to me that what is missing in the masks is the understanding that we should be in nato and the european war. there will not be a separate discussion, especially after submitting an application for membership in nato . regarding the prospects of ukraine, there will be issues of discussion of european integration. after the status of a candidate, that is, there will be, i would say, even tens of such separate round table discussions, where there will be mainly people well, let's say, who have been engaged in euro-atlantic processes for years, there will be discussion on the energy topic, in particular representatives of the polish ministry of energy of lithuania. that is, all key issues related to security, energy, the defense sector , broadcasting,