and if at the moment we know that the representative of germany has made a non-public statement that there is a problem with the information space in ukraine, of course under such conditions we will not be accepted into the north atlantic defense alliance or nato, is it correct that the ukrainian authorities made such a statement? it seems to me that what can be said here just one word, finally, because you remember the end of february, march, april, there were some ephemeral security agreements that could supposedly solve the security issue for the country, it's all unrealistic, sorry, that's all fool doesn't happen like that and today in europe the only association that guarantees security and this association is called nato and if ukraine wants to have security we need to be members of nato that's why it's very good and we despite the fact that very often we are precisely in this

context criticized president zelensky today we are like no other we will do everything possible as european solidarity to make this happen uh two days ago poroshenko was the leader of european solidarity in sweden today he is in great britain and everywhere he says that it is necessary to do as much as possible so that ukraine becomes a member of the marians in the end, this is what 86% of ukrainians want, but it seems to me that this is at least a diplomatic blunder, as much as possible this is a certain tactical failure when zelensky announces, due to the decision of the national security and defense council, a course in nato without agreeing having coordinated those steps with our western partners, because it is extremely good that the baltic countries, that the czech republic, that poland said that canada, that yes, ukraine must be dark, but we see very cautiously the statement of the united states of america very

this is obvious because these countries today bear the lion's share of supporting ukraine with money and weapons, and when we take such steps, we definitely need to coordinate our actions with our partners and allies, so i really did not want to and i warn the ukrainian authorities that sometimes it didn't happen tomorrow or the day after tomorrow , again we don't want to see nato, we will look for something else because that's an option well, but it's here in the constitution, the immutability of the euro-atlantic exchange rate is written down and there will be a retreat. no way we have crossed the rubicon, so to speak, and thank god that during martial law it is not

possible to change the constitution, because i have not forgotten mr. achieved a record about the euro-atlantic and european integration course of ukraine. that was it, and i say once again that it is not european solidarity. 86% of ukrainians will not allow anyone to turn from this road, because our victory is not just de-occupation, our victory is membership in the european union and nato, then our children will not fight with muscovites again, then our children will live, learn to work in ukraine and feel safe, and we should do this now, because we have such a chance , taras batenko joins the conversation by contacting us people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada budget committee, mr. taras, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine . in the near future, the supreme council will consider the draft state budget for 2023, and it was developed based

on the fact that hostilities will continue throughout 2023 this was reported by the chairman of the budget committee of the verkhovna rada , yuriy aristov. actually, we can see that we are being offered to consider this draft budget realistic, and it is realistic, because it is built on the basis of a macroeconomic forecast that predicts an increase in nominal gdp by 37%. there is also a certain deficit that is actually taken into account, but mr. taras. we understand that without the amendments to the proposal from the people's deputies, it is unlikely that we will be able to pass the state budget for next year based on the current draft and current proposals from the people's deputies do you think a compromise will be found? good day, studio. greetings, anton. greetings. oleg mykhailovych. well, first of all, i want to say that a compromise can be found if there is extra money. what you quoted from mr. aristov is

actually a verbatim quote from the minister of finance, mr. marchenko, who is at the meeting with us. the framework of the agreed council allows the draft budget in the verkhovna rada of ukraine said that other figures cannot be in fact because the budget deficit will be in the order of 36-38 billion dollars in our country. now we have a deficit every month budget of the order of 5 billion dollars. and for the next year, taking into account a certain revival of the financial and economic situation in the country. but including the devaluation of our national currency, it is difficult to say that this corresponds to economic deprivation in ukraine. the deficit is the monthly budget 3-3.5 billion dollars by such methods about the fact that the lion's share of almost all of our country's income will be earned in the

country itself, they will go to the defense sphere, to the armed forces of ukraine, and that's what has to do with them it is connected more than one trillion well, here is one trillion and what exactly one trillion is 141 billion e-e hryvnias and in fact we are pushing all our wishes away from that, we as the deputies group for the future, our other deputies, the majority e-e and factions of the group submitted amendments, we submitted it to october 1 inclusive, as the budget process demanded, but we had a discussion about the adoption of the budget budget, because the monomajority would like to adopt it very quickly, in fact, in the first and second reading simultaneously on the same day, er, we insisted on because it cannot be, er, in one day, this process is very fast, it is necessary to divide the first reading separately, the second reading separately, and therefore in the coming days we will hold a session meeting where we will consider the

budget directly in our reading well, accordingly , after that we will understand what amendments everything so to speak, your faction will never, under any circumstances, agree to the items of the budget, if possible. briefly, and then oleg synyutka upset us, but again, we are realists, based on the objective socio-economic circumstances of the state i was saddened by the fact that on the next draft budget for the 23rd year, if they correctly said that it will be a budget that is calculated, that the war will go on for the whole year, if it ends, it will probably exceed that budget, it will be recalculated based on our own time, because it is necessary to at one time, it seemed to us that the minimum living wage is not being increased, the minimum wage is not being recalculated, and the minimum wage is not being indexed for pensions for our citizens .

a compensatory mechanism is being raised for local communities, on whose shoulders the additional burden of educational, cultural, medical subsidies and internally displaced persons, and many other things could be shouldered. that is, we are now with our amendments we are still trying, without forcing, the ministry of finance and the budget committee to find some well, additional resources, although there is a total of about 90 or so billion hryvnias for local budgets, the additional ones will be directed, but i looked at the cross-section of the local community of lviv oblast, in particular, my electoral district. i think that oleg mykhailovych also looked at the other deputies who represent the lviv region in the cross- section of different communities, that is, in many communities, the educational subvention, let's say these reverse subsidies that go from the state budget to local budgets, they have decreased. well, we did not have direct hostilities here. the number of students, on the contrary, we now accept

children from the east of ukraine, from the south of ukraine, and so on , and it is obvious that the load is not less. that is why it must be equalized. it must be taken into account . because it will be a problem later, let's say everything within the year, at the end of the year or at the beginning of the year, when we will simply take the funds for the payment of the current educational cultural subvention, medical subvention . thank you, mr. political factions in the verkhovna rada, but listening again and again, i regret that there are very few experts of this level in the parliament who have parliamentary experience, who have passed local self- government bodies, who definitely feel what is needed. what is the priority, because no one will argue that the number one issue of spending is spending on the defense of the country, this is an axiom that will not be discussed, but then, really, let's take the education subsidy, if this year there was

108 billion, then next year the government plans 87 billion. say anything please, we are not going to de-occupy the territories, we are not going to teach the children, that is, it is not clear how we will ensure payments for education, by the way, this also applies to the medical school, it seems to me that this is not even a discussion, it is the government's duty to raise the minimum wages and raise the living wage why because if the government really cares about the development of the country, then there are two basic things, the first thing is the internal market and the purchasing power of the population, and the second thing is the powers of local councils and local budgets, and this and that are in this draft budget there is no direction for the development of local budgets, the empowerment of local budgets and an increase in purchasing power dragged the country out in 2015, and it seems to me that we

must first unequivocally stand for reverse subsidies for local budgets and here my opinion absolutely coincides with mr. taras 100%. and this affects lviv oblast and it affects other regions. well , secondly, it is very important that we finally clearly prescribe that local administrations cannot approve military administrations in rivne, zakarpattia, chernivtsi or zhytomyr, where thanks to the armed forces of ukraine there are no military actions, local administrations, local councils have perform the powers that belong to them, and today we cannot hand over all finances to regional governments military administrations, we have to protect military administrations from corruption and potential looting, that's why the army is number one , that's why social standards for teachers, for doctors , for pensioners - this is number two, and of course local budgets, assistance to communities - this is number 30 basic

things that should not be discussed, that should be the basis of the budget next year, because there is a deficit. yes, we understand that the economy has lost very seriously from moscow's aggression. but we should not think only about victory, we should think about renovation and restoration of the country, and this task must be completed by the draft budget for 2023. thank you, olezhe. good luck with you. we definitely understand that the increase in the living wage will not affect the inflation rate, because these people will not buy dollars. the key issue now for budget workers for pensioners is survival, we understand what hidden inflation is, how much have prices risen accordingly, mr. taras, is there a prospect of raising the living wage, and how strong is the resistance?

in the banking sphere, they see the problem a little differently than we do, but we understand the situation in which people who are left with a pension of 2,500, i don't know, twice 600 uah a month, well, it's just impossible to survive. if you count the additional story with the utility company regarding the utility company, i want to say that by the way, we gave a proposal for compensation for housing and communal services services, still relatively, but there is almost twice, not three times the same firewood, well, let's see how you can prove it to the ministry of finance. i agree with elena mykhailovych in the sense that we should still approve local budgets at local councils, regional councils, and not give it to the regional

civil military administration. as you know, the session of the parliament is broadcast on the youtube channel, well, on youtube, and it is obvious that the lion's share of citizens who, well, do not have the opportunity to watch the sessions on youtube debates that take place in the parliament, but at the last meeting, there was no proposal to hand over the powers of one local community in the zhytomyr region, which at one time was under occupation, but now it is obviously not there in zhytomyr region. everyone lives a peaceful life, as far as it can be called a peaceful life . no, under the control of the military-civilian administration, this decision did not enter into force; therefore, we will obviously discuss and correct what you say. well, i want to remind you that the minimum the salary in ukraine is uah 6,700, uah 6,1700 , and the minimum living wage is

uah 2,589. well, what can we count on the dollars that have jumped up now, well, it’s obvious that it’s nothing at all. and it’s hard for me to understand how our compatriots of retirement age can and not only can survive on this, on these meager funds, especially now, it’s not about this time, but i think that after all, this social sphere is the sphere of the government’s competence in cooperation with the international monetary fund and our external partners, and it is actually a social sphere. took it upon themselves if the army, in particular, closes the ukrainian state, then the safes in the social sphere are related to the social sphere, it is necessary to close them, and i think that it is necessary to close the type of what you have now invested yourself in the amount, it is necessary to enter into a further dialogue , a difficult discussion with the imf and other international financial institutions to still predict these increases in the international living wage , because for our fellow citizens, this issue should be the number one issue for our government, so our discussion

will be clear, dear guests, we now we are talking about what should be done, what principles and emphasis should be followed in next year's budget, but based on the draft of this budget, mr. taras, there is something that surprises you. well, for example, some uh, i don't know segments of our ukrainian life, for which, for example, more funds than could be allocated, maybe it should be allocated in conditions when there is a war in the country and the priorities should be completely different, of course there are separate articles eh that arose eh well, let's say they have always been what eh -e there and important in the conditions in peacetime in the conditions of war and when the hostilities are not completed, when the missile is taken, any of our regional centers should be taken and kharkiv, which is also affected, and the dnipro, and

funds are laid for the construction of subway branches, in particular in kharkiv, in the dnipro. i believe that it is important in peacetime, but how important is it now and to what extent can they be of high-quality development to scan funds er in the conditions of independence of hostilities well, let's say this question arises in me, there are a number of other er articles that also raise questions regarding the increase in expenditures on a number of state institutes of state authorities, but instead there is also a decrease in expenditures on some executive authorities, and we put you in the example of individual ministries of information and so on, so here we can discuss a lot about what, er, i think that let the ministry of finance give us the arguments directly when we ask these questions. thank you, mr. taras p. olezh, what outraged or surprised you the most in the current

budget process. the discussion of the expenditure part between the needs of the army and the funds that the government wants to provide for the continuation of the great construction because we already understand that the excise tax will be increased, it will go significantly into the road fund and it is very important that we keep this norm that the parliament voted for a few weeks ago when we were attempts to take money from the military and transfer it to the construction of kraków, and yet you did not insist that the money should first go to defense, then the funds should go to reconstruction bridges where it is agreed by the general staff of ukraine, because today they must see where it is necessary to restore. and where this potential danger and the third direction - these are the crossings on the western border of ukraine, we have them today as a

candidate country for europe, members of the european union as a country that wants to be a member nato we should maximize the possibility of crossing the western border from the point of view of the movement of human capital from the point of view of the traffic movement especially since in october the visa-free transport system began to operate and this, on the contrary, should help our the country has an export potential, so this discussion of the army and roads unfortunately continues in the draft budget of the 23rd year, are roads necessary? of course, they are needed, but we already have a problem when we saved on the army in the 21st year and engaged in large-scale construction, the final result is what we have today the army, which needs even more money, even more help, and we have destroyed what was invested in and what the occupying troops are using today, so this discussion will take place, but in this discussion we will stand very clearly on

on the side of the ukrainian army. i know the position of taras ivanovich both on local self-government and on the army. this is true despite the fact that we belong to different political forces. this will be a unified position because it is in the interests of the country. thank you, taras shevchenko. what an outstanding article . on the polish border , the budget for the 23rd year has been increased in the next project to 1.5 billion hryvnias from the 200 million planned for the 22nd year. it is about the ukrainian-polish part of the state border. thank you, mr. taras taras batenko, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada's budget committee, worked live. and now we are a christian, we are adding dmytro gruntskyi, yes, vice-presidency of the ukrainian armlifting federation, the head coach of the ukrainian armlifting team and the champion of ukraine, europe and the world, an extreme sportsman, currently

a volunteer, it is difficult for me now to find a person in ukraine who would be engaged in a truly noble volunteer work, congratulations dmytro glory to ukraine glory to the heroes of the evening well, let's get to know each other a little of our tv viewers with our guest dmytro's volunteer activity is a bit specific, it may differ from what we are already used to here, mr. dmytro, tell us very briefly about what you do, how exactly you manage to find financial resources to help ukrainians, what do you actually do many things. but what caught your attention and what we are currently doing. currently, this is a campaign called with ukraine in the heart .

to give for the armed forces, but not just to give that, but to get for it an iron heart that i bend in front of people from nails, well, it’s actually impressive, we can also be considered people, and accordingly, we would like to ask you, perhaps, for the election to audit this feat of ours, we have a nail 200 mm long, we fit to the person, we offer him to make a donation, he gives his consent and let's just say with light movements of the hands yes yes yes i have two questions at once what is a nail made of let's be honest or what are you made of if you do this a person is an ordinary beauty we hope

we promise to receive such a souvenir in the editorial office, we promise to give it a nice gift and thank you to my guest . i can't imagine it, because it's lyrical, i think that's what dmytro did with the nail, it just needs to be relayed to muscovites so that they understand what awaits them if they come here, but on the other hand , we understand that the strongest volunteers are very often are vulnerable. yes, we remember a number of quite high-profile cases, unpleasant cases, traumatic cases for society and for the volunteer movement in general, and we would very much like the verkhovna rada of ukraine to make the protection of volunteers systematic, that is, not to run after everyone, i don't know in every case for

every we are the figures, so to speak, in order to defend them. we will ask dmytro if he faced certain problems bureaucratic bureaucratic in his volunteer activity, i think there must have been difficulties difficulties on the contrary there is an understanding between the military and when we come to checkpoints, everyone always treats us with understanding, even if, for example, there are no certain documents or an opportunity to show them. so when we went to the raisin, there were certain difficulties with the military, but everyone on a human basis understands what we do, whom we help and always included in understanding, unfortunately, unfortunately, it is not like that everywhere, because we know the criminal cases that exist, including

in the lviv region, there is a very good example of the lviv regional council, the lviv city council, which on their own meetings on the agenda considered this issue and took a very clear and principled position that where there are thieves, they must answer according to the current legislation, but where there is a huge volunteer movement and volunteer movement, it is not just necessary to help these people. maybe someone has already forgotten how in february in march, they drove across the border, bulletproof vests, the first cars, other things, then nobody asked anything in particular, because i remember when i came to the dnipro hospital and the head doctor told me this, you know, very simple but very important thing he tells me that oleg has changed the nature of the wounds. i say that the nature of the wounds has changed. he says that the wounds to the chest have stopped. they started with the wounds to the limbs

. who will say thank you to the volunteers who helped the armed forces, or today, for example, warm things, well, it's a shame, it's a shame when a military man comes from avdiivka and i ask him what to help him with, he says we need warm things because the nights are cold in the trenches, they simply nullify all the forces of our military, that is why the volunteers deserve the highest praise for the greatest possible support, and these bad isolated cases, of course, must be answered for . instead of helping, they imitated and reminded the hearts of the military. they have to answer for this, and the volunteers should receive support.

thank you, dmytro. please tell me, have you thought about it is possible, what changes does ukrainian legislation need, or what additions does ukrainian legislation rather need, so that the life of volunteers is simplified as much as possible, and those questions that arise may not be yours, but your friends from the volunteer environment have had them. to me and to those people who are directly connected with the legislation, i am more like an executor of that, my vision is only because the state helped such people , they try to give their time and money i often spend my life doing volunteer activities, so i think that the main

task of our state should be both helping the military and helping those people who help the military, mr. dmytro, and what specific steps would you expect from the state and in which specific directions? well, the phrase that there volunteers support volunteers will take volunteers volunteers will decide well it indicates certain distortions in the implementation of certain specific practical solutions so where in your opinion should everyone to strain the state apparatus in particular, well, as you said, it is cold now and it seems that the military needs warm things for heating, we bring, for example, to our military burghers, means for heating and warm things, so i think that the state now needs to think about how, uh, our military will be meet the cold weather, in what conditions they will be in this not difficult weather

period. well, the civilian is the same, or the situation is already with those released when we were in izyum and brought peasants to the military, then ordinary people too they asked and when they will bring us a burguzyka, but we explain to them that we cannot manufacture and transport them on such a scale, and well, the priority for us was the military, and civilians also need such help, and something is moving and developing. oleg, we have literally a minute left. i want to confirm the words of dmytro, because 10 days ago we were also in kharkiv in cossack lopan, it is right under the moscow border, and people where there is no electricity, where there is no gas, they really need help, first of all, the military, but we must not forget about civilians about doctors about teachers who should organize life in the de-occupied territories but the first aid should be to the army thank you oleg

synyutka people's deputy of ukraine and dmytro grunskyi vice president of the all-ukrainian armlifting organization head coach of the ukrainian armlifting team champion of ukraine, europe and the world athlete and the main key here in to our conversation volunteer with a capital letter thank you gentlemen thank you khrystyna for this extremely important today's broadcast khrystyna yatskiv next broadcast is already intercepting our journalist colleagues, in particular. and on eva melnyk will present an updated information issue, we pass the word. congratulations, colleagues. thank you. the news editor is still working. i will start from when the application of ukraine to join nato will be considered