or then i hope that finland, which today is already a member of nato, will also act like all normal countries of the world, which should now close their borders for russian tourism. here 's what you said about the fact that it was good for the european union to adopt a decision banning the entry of russians at the general level. in addition to hungary, do you think there are any other obstacles for the eu to make such a decision in europe? not only are there many political forces that are trying in various ways to influence the policy of the european union in favor of in russia, it sometimes goes straight, let’s say it goes straight, i’m talking about russian propaganda, yes, like, well, russia is just right, and so on and so on. well, it’s already necessary to honestly tell the minority about russian

propaganda . in general, i agree with this , war is bad. and that is why we should all strive for peace now, but these politicians of europe who say so under the concept of striving for peace must of course accept er, let's say conditions putin and end the war in this way that he will agree to everything that putin wants or at least help him those who already understand a little more that he is losing this war completely and now they are asking to help him and say let's go guys now let's finish this the war is necessary because the peace is needed now, negotiations are needed and so on until they lose at the front and i hope they will already, uh, end up losing on the front they will always talk about negotiations, they stop talking about operations when feels stronger and this is unfortunately unfortunately, there is more so where the politicians who are

actually leading this simple russian policy do not understand that there is only one dialogue with the russians geologist that they understand and use that dialogue with the russians is now quite successfully conducted by the ukrainian army as do you think it is possible to increase the pressure on ukraine in the negotiations on the eve of winter? to receive some energy preferences from russia, the conference was organized by the former president of poland, k fasnejski and komarowski, with the participation of the us ambassador to warsaw, mark bdzhizinski, who gave a speech on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the beginning of the process of poland's accession to nato, and in his words, the

american ambassador to warsaw mr. brzezinski underlined that putin expected that on the threshold of winter we will feel dangerous in europe, we will feel cold and ukraine will lose this war, and he said that in the military plan, ukraine is winning and the west is showing that it should not be described as energy blackmail from russia in europe . there will be no energy trade with russia, and russia will simply be cut off from the world rent well, of course, putin is counting on this, that due to the winter, there will be problems with electricity and so on in the west political forces that will raise the question of

peace quickly peace conditions of russia to save our economy but we must oppose such propaganda we oppose it i hope you have already noticed that there are countries such as poland in which russian propaganda generally does not have access to it i am proud of the fact that in our country, despite that, you are an oppositionist, you are a third-party manager of our party on the issues of russia, ukraine, this war, absolutely . people around this issue, and even our neighbors, like slovakia, is exposed to strong russian propaganda, i will repeat once again, we must and counter it with the

truth. they want some kind of agreement with putin in the west, that's all putin 's fershteg, which should, by the way, in my opinion, burn down in the country today. all they say to peressia as such is already about putin, but they still ask how it mocks the position of the west, and of course they use what they consider to be the most successful weapon of russia in the fight against the west. without ukraine, for the first time, the west means that they use the energy resources of the side. well, this is only from the second sides of this negativity also has its positive side, more and more people in the west understand that it is never possible to communicate with russia by any treaty, since everything and almost everyone must understand that for russia always

это будет оружие и средства политического меняя and against the background of this pressure of propaganda and against the background of the fact that some countries do not go in unison with the position of the european union is it possible that there is some kind of internal political split within the european countries and within the european union itself there is already a political position in europe directly speaks about the russian opinion, there are politicians who do it indirectly, but as far as i can tell , the majority is on our side. unfortunately, in europe in the near future it will not be like that in the west in europe, as in poland, everything is united around yes, and in the elevator, everything is united around this issue. unfortunately, there will always be opponents who support russia

. which are needed by the extreme left, russia uses them too , they play different games like ours, and i wonder if they will split western society not only on the issue of ukraine, but on many other issues all these ideological wars are inflating and so on and so on for russia. the unity of the west is always dangerous. the unity of the west helped destroy the soviet union. this unity of the west will help us win the cold war. russia is counting on such a political divide between countries, but for now there is a

political majority, which is not always 100%, not always as you and i would like, but it still holds the common line of the west together with america against russia needs to do everything political so that this majority within the question is preserved and while it is preserved, certain metal workers need to talk about it . the majority in the west, it is stable and exists using ukraine, which is good. let's talk about two european countries, poland and germany, and two countries in the european union, but at the same time, berlin, warsaw

they have, well, you know, such different views on many questions, warsaw gives practically there, you know, as you can say, weapons help us as much as possible. berlin has a different position on this issue, why is this happening in your opinion, yes, the question of german politics is very complicated there, on the one hand, there are real pro-russian forces, but on the other hand, parties are also in german politics and it is necessary to speak directly about it, there is a useful thing that is useful, that is useful and that even to some extent they feel guilty for the second world war once upon a time somehow they don't want german weapons to be used against russian soldiers again. i always repeat to these german politicians that if they want to somehow imagine themselves a moral home after the second world

war, they must help ukraine today and even more, they are russia and therefore the former to the soviet union, which, by the way, started the second world war as an ally of hitler, and ukraine and the ukrainian people were victims of both nazism and bolshevism, just like the polish people. therefore, we understand exactly what is happening in ukraine and we are trying to explain to our german friends that if they want to dream of this moral home of theirs, it will somehow soften their soul after the second world war. a lot of weapons, as i already mentioned , and at the same time, germany they do not give a lot of weapons, arguing that they themselves can do without these weapons if necessary. poland is not afraid

that this can happen to you, the germans are just watching you as a neighbor, and we look at you as a brother, do you understand? and there is a difference if your neighbor is in trouble . brother, you help regardless of what is happening between us . such a problem if ukraine will win this war, every polish tank, every polish gun now, er, on the ukrainian front, it protects poland, it literally protects not

only ukraine, but also poland, so this is 100% our war, these tanks, these tanks, they protect warsaw exactly as it protects kiev. you said this about a certain brotherhood, please tell me, but before the start of a full-scale war between the countries , there was such a certain historical conflict in the media space, and we see that at the political level, this conflict is now established as it is at the level of ordinary people, we forgive and ask for forgiveness, and this is how it should be, we forgive everything that is bad from your side and we ask for your forgiveness for everything that was bad from our side . i am saying that politicians should of course be interested in history, but they take money for the future.

you understand me, my voters are not paying for the history of polish-ukrainian relations, but for the future of poland, including ukraine, because we allies and i, how should a politician deal in the future, they are history, this law is a bill that the verkhovna rada passed in the summer on legal guarantees for polish citizens who are in the territory of ukraine . does it mean something, is there a request like this in society, or will it be of any use in your opinion, it is in all of poland with great enthusiasm even we did not expect it such a gesture to our side, he was accepted er-e with a friday in er-e in poland er-e we also understand that this is er-e they came to us during the war

and also presented legal conditions for normal functioning in our country and i hope that well, of course, it always turns out that not everyone is satisfied, but i hope that the majority of our ukrainian guests who came to us are satisfied with what they met in poland. i read one of your interviews in 2007, and you were then a member of the european parliament and you talked about that what about the ukrainian lobby there, it is not too powerful, and even then, for the old europe, ukraine was considered such a poorly understood and suspicious partner, now 15 years have actually passed, what has changed in your opinion, then a lot has changed in ukraine. i remember my reports. this was the first document of the european parliament,

which in the seventh year it was adopted by a small majority, which for the first time at this time was an incredible success for us. for the first time , the european parliament adopted a document that says about ukraine's membership, all of ukraine's membership of the vv and so well, then it took me a year and a half, uh, i ran through the corridors of the european parliament to uh, for a year and a half, i ran to uh, to get a small majority for this report. more will tell them to make ukraine useful, and this is certainly at the level of the european parliament, this has changed very much. i think that the concept that ukraine is a real european state has changed very much, and

not everyone understands this even in the seventh year. and today this is what is happening in ukraine, where people are not the first to give up. just being a member of the european family, this is when it allows europeans to be stunned in a new way. has changed and europe has also changed. i think that this process, which will end very soon, is by the way political, it is for politicians like us now, because for the military, the task of a victorious war is for the state engines to help ukraine will win this war with money and weapons and so on. and for such politicians as their deputies now, the main task of accelerating the process of european integration cannot be taken

away from any perspective of membership or membership, it is necessary to name specific dates, a specific scenario, and already begin the process of ukraine's accession to issu, how many years separate ukraine from being a full member of the european union? let's say on the 29th, it will be the next elections to the european parliament. and then already in the 29th year, all of ukraine will elect its euro-deputies, there will already be a ukrainian commissioner, and so on. what else do you think is hindering us in the process? here is what we still need to work on in this introduction a lot needs to be done inside ukraine , just like it will be done in poland in lytke, it

was also a difficult process, but in a political company today , it is necessary to make a decision at the level of the government, it is necessary for the political forces in europe to demand that their governments name the specific date of ukraine's entry into the armed forces and adjust the entire process - under this date, when we achieved this in poland, we were first told 2000 hours, then it was moved to the fourth, but it is still necessary to demand from the west the date and the date of the 29th hour, it is quite realistic, which you you see the victory of ukraine including unconditionally includes crimea it will be a military victory of ukraine's membership in nato and the armed forces and well, let's say directly the destruction

of russia. rih is the iron heart of ukraine and the longest city in europe, its man-made landscapes attract guests and industrial tourism is actively developing in the city. kryvyi rih lands were part of the zaporizhia army, the central governing body of kish zaporizhia sich was located in the city during archaeological excavations in balka, ukrainian archaeologist oleksandr pol discovered the remains smelting furnaces, which indicate that metallurgy was practiced here even by the scythians during the years of nazi occupation , the head of the city administration serhiy sherstyuk headed popular resistance introduced the official use of the

ukrainian language and anthem. ukraine and glory and will are not dead yet, because even under enemy fire , the people of kryvyi rih fearlessly work, help and defend independence, because in addition to an iron heart , they also have a steel cossack character kryvyi rih unconquered my country is my country, it was different in such a harsh, magical winter, and you do not smell of flowers and grow from grasses , my country is really bright and colorful, in the autumn, the dawn of my country, they give birth without any colors, my country covered with a blanket

i was soft, i was always on the internet, i won't give my country back to anyone , i saw a lot of tears when we were of course very happy that we had already reached our house, there were almost no people left who experienced at least some kind of tragedy, this is god sent you to us documentary

film station hopes on wednesday at 21:30 in marathon, the only news today, the reason for our conversation is the premiere of the film i work in the cemetery in ukraine, and we have a great opportunity to talk with the author of the script of this film and the author of the book of the same name, i work in the cemetery, pavlo belyanskyi. i congratulate you mr. pavlenko, i am convinced that the work of writing a screenplay and writing a book are completely different works, in fact, this is a different genre. yes, a screenplay, and in general, what kind of production is it, it is such a separate genre, besides, a screenplay, unlike a book , a screenplay is a document on which many, many people work later, well, that is, you issue it if you

have a white dog in this no for some reason, it is uh, you have to understand that some people there, some managers there will be looking for exactly a white dog of exactly this size and color and it will be necessary er, it will take time and money, and the white dog needs to be justified so that it is not just like that, there is some detail that no one needs there. that is, there is nothing there that suddenly you decided that way. no, you still need to approach this in a reasoned way document this was probably the most difficult part of this process. attention to detail, were there any other challenges? well, in general, work according to the script is like this. well, this is straight work. well, it must be done taking into account the laws of cinema. there is

nothing in the book that limits you. you can uh, my own put the heroes where they will be high on mars high is still going and here you understand yes, in which location will it be and how will it be from which side will the actor or actress enter there how will it be how will they generally work on the site at this time when they are talking about something, it's such a choreography, uh, their movements are uh, in this frame, uh, you have to understand it. you have to work with this, so i worked on the script together with the director, uh, together with the producers, they helped us, we hindered each other, then again they helped there, quarreled somehow, reconciled, well, in general a year of work, that is, if we talk about the book, i probably wrote it, if i say that it

took two or three months, then i guess. well, because, uh, these were stories, i posted them on facebook, and they were stories from live about those people about those customers who came to me at the cemetery when i was working there, er, they made orders. there, there are monuments , there are all kinds of ritual services, and it was not such a small term. that is, there they go on, er, how strange it sounds, they repeat themselves well, that is, if there is a certain category of people who come for one thing they themselves come on memorabilia. that's how we have the heroes of the film. each of them comes to order a monument, but he comes on a memorabilia, it's very interesting. by the way, i realize now, after watching the movie, that it's really the same with you it is understood that the heroine who

knows exactly why- why is she coming to this office alone, we are talking like that, we started talking about something that the films did not even warn about. of course , we will not retell the plot now, but it is about the story of a person who works in the cemetery and about the history of people who come to funeral services and what happens next, how do all these events develop, eh, before talking directly about the tape, i would also like to ask you about your experience working at the cemetery, eh, how exactly did it affect your life you may have looked at something, you may have discovered something for yourself, it was influenced if there was no book on this experience, and in general, i could not have found this direction, what i want to do in life, the cemetery gave me such a clear understanding. and what i want that is i want to write so i want to do there i want

to tell people stories both with the help of books and with the help of cinema, well, that is, yes, difficulties , after all, what exactly there were so bright, well, not bright . it was impossible not to write about them, and when i wrote it, there was such a response from the readers , what was the reason for facebook in the first place, and i understood that and this is necessary . what was there in the cemetery for the second time?

i understood that what helps me now in the war is to live here and now. when you are next to death after death, when a person understands that we are somewhere there, er, inside ourselves, we understand, we will all die, we will all die, that's how it will be, but eh it is very difficult to live with this thought all the time, because what people do is that they don't forget about it. well, it's not with me, probably , maybe, but maybe somehow i don't think about it, about this awareness. and when a person ends up there, well, in the cemetery or in the war there where death is really close, where you constantly encounter it, somehow you too you understand, i'm going to die anyway, it doesn't matter how , it doesn't matter at what age, but i'm going to die anyway, what did i do there , what did i already have time to do, and what do i do in general

, and this is the understanding of a person, it pushes him so much to what is now there we take a break and what do we do next we live we have to live death or a part of life and we have to live here and now it helps a lot i.e. to live in this moment that is passing now we are sitting in our room talking great class super this is very nice i wanted to talk about it a little later, but about this experience and what you are for you bear yourself after working at the cemetery and after you are now in the armed forces of ukraine and have people around you who are constantly around you and you are also in constant danger and threat to life eh but at the same time, it seems to me that both the cemetery and the war cause

death some kind of uh, well, not ordinary. but something statistically or something, you start to treat it as something very scary and very painful, but something that is permanent, as if you constantly have relationships with them, it's scary, war in general, it's always scary, fear is so different, well, there was fear when there you are somewhere there in a point of constant deployment yes there you go to sleep there and you are afraid because they will wake up now and say combat alarm the battle is so scary maybe something there some kind of rocket or did something hit it is scary because one of his brothers went to work there and maybe something will happen to him now