yes, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies. friends, if you are watching us now on youtube, please like it. you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel. we will be very grateful to you. i will say goodbye to you tomorrow. tomorrow we will be visiting major general of the armed forces of ukraine serhiy kryvonos , let's talk about the situation on the front line of threats, let's hear the reaction to putin's threats, and it will be interesting to stay awake at 5:00 p.m. i wish you good health, see you, guest explosions overnight russia struck bila tserkva in the kyiv region using iranian kamikaze drones where else can iranian drones fly and how will kyiv respond to the price ceiling on russian oil and

a strike on the defense sector eu ambassadors agreed on the details of the 8th sanctions package against russia experts call the restrictions powerful but is this enough to stop vladimir putin's oleksiy kovalev natalia korolevska ilya nods to the people's deputies of ukraine who left the country after the russian invasion or openly sided with the kremlin continued to receive payments from the state budget of ukraine after february 24. how did it happen and who will be responsible for it? look at svoboda life . welcome to svoboda. my name is vlad and lazur. we pray live on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel. watch us on the internet, don't forget to subscribe to the radio freedom channels and like russian president vladimir putin today signed the so-called decrees on the inclusion

of four partially occupied regions into russia of ukraine, donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhya and kherson, in this way he completed the formal process of annexation of ukrainian territories the day before , let me remind you that the federation council - it is the upper house of the russian parliament, confirmed these so-called treaties, ratified them one earlier, the annexation of parts of the ukrainian territories was approved by the state duma of russia in the office of the ukrainian president, they said that yes putin's so-called laws on the acceptance of ukrainian regions into russia are not worth the paper on which they are signed and that ukraine will return all its territories such a statement in particular made by the head of the president's office and yarmak in response to

putin 's hope. the property of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, i will remind you that it is located in the city of energodar in the zaporizhzhia region, which is under occupation, and now about the drone attack on the russian forces attacking the city of bila tserkva - this is kyiv region was previously bombarded with kamikaze drones. this was reported by the head of the kyiv ova, oleksiy kuleba . according to him, six people were hit by explosions in bila tserkva at night, one person was injured, the infrastructure in bila tserkva was damaged . the correspondent

is currently working in the city of bila tserkva this night. radio svoboda maryan kushnir he is with us on the call maryana my greetings what do you know about the consequences of the drone attack what is the situation in the city now what is happening there tell me from the road i am near the place where kamikaze drones hit, this is actually the first attack , it was a mikaze drone in the kyiv region and it hit the military infrastructure, and the local population here is currently scared and they say that this can happen again, they understand it, but even so , this time they will be careful at night, people have heard how directly these drones flew over the city and they heard such a characteristic sound of a moped a-a that is, the motor of this drone itself and later when the sound died down a little and people heard explosions there

were six such explosions according to the information of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, 12 drones flew in this direction, six of which the air force managed to neutralize , or others still got to these places, as it is already known, only one person was injured, and as they say here, the injuries are not critical, in fact, what the people themselves say about what happened here in bila tserkva and are they afraid and what did they see, let's listen to where the alarm sounded, it was in my opinion at about two o'clock in the morning or a little bit later. here we heard, we live on this side, there, in those houses, we heard an explosion. and i went out on street well, then i heard that this is how they said , the sound of a moped is approaching yes well, at first it was thin, it somehow reminded more of the sound of a chainsaw, then everything grew, grew, grew, grew

stronger and i look he is already almost above me i raised my head, i look, he is flying over our house in to the side of the site, and after that i heard an explosion , and then i went home and when another explosion sounded again, i think it was the third or fourth - uh, i left again, went out into the street and went to the park there, i looked and i had to. well, practically almost otsklerikov flew two more despite the blows, the local authorities urge not to neglect the air alert and at the first opportunity to look for places for shelter and here it is exactly uh-he blows on this part, they are very close to residential areas where many people live, and as you can see on my

passers-by are walking in the background, so people are urged once again not to neglect air traffic and to seek shelter. thank you very much. maryan kushnir is currently working in the city of bila tserkva . drones that can be used during the war in ukraine, and already on september 13, the ukrainian military reported the first case of the destruction of an iranian-made drone, then experts came to the conclusion that it was most likely a viran drone-shaket, and its wreckage was marked with cyrillic markings, two geraniums, 23 september, after another report about the destruction of iranian drones in ukraine, the official kyiv decided to deprive the ambassador and the wound in ukraine of accreditation, as well as significantly reduce the number of the diplomatic staff of the iranian embassy in connection with the supply of attack drones to russia, well, in fact, this means that the ambassador cannot fulfill his duties and must return to tehran, as he

himself and early respond to the use of their drones in the war in ukraine. why is iran helping russia with on the one hand, but at the same time does not recognize the annexation of the occupied ukrainian territories, my colleague sashko shevchenko asked the journalists of the iranian service of radio liberty about this, listen to the protests that have been going on for the last three weeks in mainly related to iran's internal problems, people on the streets in universities, especially in the last few days, are demanding more freedom for themselves at this stage of the protests, no one now has any demands on anyone in the iranian government structure to change foreign policy because foreign policy at this moment is for the iranian people is not a big problem the big problems now is freedom for women freedom of speech and internal problems that have nothing to do with which

countries iran cooperates with or which country iran does not considers the public opinion friendly when it comes to iran since the beginning of the war in ukraine, iranians have supported ukraine, there are two reasons for this, firstly, most iranians do not like russia, they do not like putin because putin has supported the government for many years and has been strategically and financially, the iranian people do not like it in principle, on the other hand, when the islamic revolution guards corps shot down a ukrainian plane three years ago, there was great sympathy for ukraine on the part of the iranians, because some of the passengers and most of the crew were ukrainians from that moment on. the general direction of iranian public opinion was on the side of ukraine as a country that was subjected to russian aggression because historically the iranian people consider russia to be an aggressor country and not

an ally or a partner of political parties. iranian politicians always want to say that we are above these regional conflicts. we do not want to interfere directly in their conflicts and have room to maneuver between two enemies and while it works in fact it's quite the opposite ira has recently helped its allies or groups or countries like syria as and cancer like yemen like russia to destroy their enemies especially when russia is the largest country bordering the zran and we need early the support of russia in the economic strategic international policy we will talk further on how these iranian drones can change the course of the war in ukraine according to the estimates of ukrainian experts iranian drones kamikaze shahet can overcome a distance of up to one thousand kilometers, but there is another version about two and

a half thousand and russia can use these drones from different directions serhiy joins the air rakhmanin, people's deputy, not a faction, voice, member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, serhiy dobry vecher good evening, the other day there was an article on the pages of the wall street journal, and it said that the russian armed forces had already lost their advantage in artillery and had switched to new tactics and now it is precisely the positions of the ukrainian military that they will attack with these iranian-made kamikaze drones, and it seemed that until today, these drones did not inflict any very serious damage, but what happened in bila tserkva probably indicates that we should expect some serious consequences. tell me if there is anything in ukraine to respond to these drones or to prevent their attacks. you know, in fact , the answer to this question will not be as easy as it might seem. on the one hand, the shahedas, and mostly

russia uses the fraudulent 136 and its early version 131 - these are not very expensive ammunition, they are the so -called kamikaze drones, otherwise they are also called berezovichi ammunition or aircraft shells, these are not very expensive products, they are actually drones of one-time use with a not very large not very large payload in chess up to 136 and the last modification, it actually appeared only in the 21st year and had limited experience of use, it has a declared flight range of two and a half thousand kilometers, but from one opinion of specialists they they believed that the effective range is 1,000 km and in principle it was considered safe for rear cities, for example for such as kyiv , but with an overview of what happened in bila tserkva, i think that it still makes sense to look in more detail the characteristics of this drone. and how can you

protect yourself from such drones, and they have their disadvantages, well, first of all, they are mainly designed for stationary objects, because they are guided by a gps signal and have a fairly limited angle, but on the other hand, they work at low altitude and their number can be large enough because they are not very expensive and if you put them on the stream, you can produce enough of them and here there is a problem, explain why and shoot down such uavs with anti-aircraft missile systems like it can be very expensive, especially since the amount of ammunition is not necessarily limited, but limited on the other hand, and small arms are the most effective way to shoot him down, and that's why, in fact, how can you protect yourself from him? i

told him at the beginning of the war that there was hardly any rebellion. well, there was never too much. we need different means of radio-electronic warfare, and this is probably what we should focus our attention on in order to win with our by the western partners of the friend, surprisingly, these are very simple ways of masking false targets and even such a simple thing, what the hell, it’s when you make certain fortification structures and above, well, with a certain space from the direction from which an attack is possible, as a rule, for such drones with such an angle attacks such as mines 136 and shahed 131 can save it. well, it is clear that you can use the otaki mobile anti-aircraft missile system on them, like the tunguska or cheetah spike, which we are currently receiving, but the problem is that their number is limited so far the most effective way to stop them is rap, because

they are drones that can't be stopped by rap, so rap must be done by our specialists and purchase the appropriate devices, and the second story is the zu-23-2 anti-aircraft gun, we have enough of them in the armed forces, but recently , we mainly used them for ground purposes, and therefore i think that there is still a need to put them on duty near critical infrastructure facilities to train er calculations to train personnel, now specialists even they say that there is a possible need if there is a threat to remove the old soviet s60 complex from storage, but there is a problem here because they are not in a ready state, it is not known how much ammunition there is for them, and since these complexes have been decommissioned, it is not certain that we have trained and qualified crew, i think that now our specialists will study how to fight these drones, they are not some kind of miracle weapon, but

the last case in bila tserkva proved that, in principle, the use of these drones can unfortunately be the most effective for the enemy, but once again i say in first of all, this is rap and camouflage, but from what you said, it is possible to generalize that until now, the ukrainian forces will somehow prepare to repel the attack of these drones, it is quite realistic, and there may be a situation that such a drone can fly to lviv or uzhhorod, relatively speaking, and remain unnoticed. i think he will fly to kyiv or uzhhorod. once again, i say two and a half thousand kilometers for shahe to the 136th - this is the maximum flight range. ppu system, that is, it is more likely that it will be shot down , it is high enough, firstly, and secondly, the maximum flight range is 2,500, the effective flight range for shahed is 1,000 km, that is, i do not know where they were launched from, there is a suspicion that they were

launched somewhere, apparently from the territory of belarus because there was information that these complexes were imported into the territory of the republic of belarus. but i think that if there is a possibility of the wreckage of the drones, because i know that some of the drones were shot down, disassemble and analyze once again, then it will be possible to calculate in you know the principles and effective range of the flight and, accordingly, the security measures. i also read from what western military analysts write that these kamikaze drones can pose a real danger to anti -missile and salvo missile systems, hymers that these drones attack hymers to what extent it corresponds to reality, i don’t think i will explain why ah, how much ah is clear, i say again, maybe there are some refined shaheds, but from those tactical and technical characteristics that are publicly available according to the 131st shahid and in the 136th, they are designed to impress the stationary

targets of heimers - it is a movable whole, first of all, secondly, as far as i know, they are protected and they are rarely in one and there in the same place in storage, and they are moved from place to place because of the damage such targets with such drones, it is probably understandable in theory, it is also possible, but usually it is just a drone that is designed to hit the warehouse, factory, barracks, and the control center, that is, a target that does not move, and the main and main fight against the shahid is silencing of the gps signal, if the rap works effectively, then the sharket will not reach the truth. some experts claimed that it is capable of reacting to radar radiation, but this was not the case in confirmation of this. in principle, the drone can hit any target, but i say it again. it seems to me about shahedi 131- and the 136th, they were, in

principle, developed for the impression of stationary targets of the gps signal, they have a small angle, yes , very short of past ancestors, of course, very briefly, i want to ask you one more thing about the cock, because the financialshall-time publication writes about the fact that officials and politicians of the united states warn that ukraine has faced a critical battle in the south. well, we hear that territories are being liberated there, and that it is important to finish this battle before winter has come and the weather conditions have not changed, what are the prospects ? how was david's defense captured david's gate why is it important because it is a strategically important point the fighting for david's brid lasted at least two months there was a very fortified area i after the eastern flank of the russians first collapsed and then the left

flank was breached and a bridgehead 30 km wide was created, then the encirclement of david's ford became a matter of time and the russians retreated in a planned manner so as not to fall into the cauldron and after that the ukrainians have gained operational space, this is very important. this opens up an effective way to boryslav. if boryslav is taken, the capture of kherson, the liberation of kherson, the occupation of kherson becomes a very realistic goal, now it is very important to do it quickly. in principle, in the area of ​​luchana, in the area of ​​voznesenskyi, we were slowed down by the fact that it was raining. and the banal armored vehicles were especially heavy, but the bmp tanks were very difficult for them to advance, and now the question here is not even in winter, the question is if there will be rains the advancement of equipment will be significantly complicated here, the main thing is to

advance as efficiently as possible before the weather conditions do not deteriorate permanently but it is clear that the country is a very difficult thing, it is an unpredictable clause - he refused to learn military affairs easily it is difficult to fight. so far, everything our military is doing in the south, they are doing very effectively , they, unlike the russians, are not trying to fight blob in other areas, they have made a very effective coverage from different sides and actually squeezed the enemy, and this is the most effective way of liberation in the territory under the circumstances, thank you you are very welcome, serhiy rahmanin, people's deputy, faction, voice, member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, was on radio svoboda well, now the eu ambassadors have agreed on the details of the sanctions of the eighth package of european union sanctions against russia, this is reported by radio liberty correspondents working in the european union. the official publication of the sanctions package is expected tomorrow , october 6, but for now it is known that the main element of the

sanctions will be the limitation of russian oil prices . zoryana stepanenko , a correspondent of radio liberty in brussels, joins the air. zoryana hello we are waiting for details from you, i will only say that i read in the news that hungary allegedly squeezed its demands into the new package of sanctions tell me what you think about this is also known. good afternoon. actually, hungary really managed to soften the sanctions a bit. well, you know that here it is either a compromise solution or the package risked being blocked. the restrictions will not affect the nuclear power industry due to budapest's efforts, so in hungary they will be able to complete two more reactors at their only nuclear plant. paksh well, according to the head of the hungarian ministry of foreign affairs, no institution important for cooperation in the field of nuclear research was blacklisted from sources in diplomatic circles, we know what was planned there add the russian institute kurchatov kurchatov institute because he, according to an internal document

that was at our disposal, publicly supported russia's war of aggression and also promotes development strategies and international cooperation in the field of military biochemical weapons, this is a quote well, now we can understand whether we are the efforts of the kurchatov institute sanctions have been bypassed and here is another hungarian amendment that will change the eighth package, listen, we are fighting hard for hungary to receive exemptions and sanctions measures, and we finally managed to achieve an exception to the mechanism for limiting oil prices for pipeline transport. therefore, these measures no longer threaten the security of the supply of cheese and oil in hungary, and the russian diamond mining giant has disappeared from the list of sanctions - this is the alros company, which, according to the eu document, supports the financial undersea of ​​the same name the submarine is also called alrosa and the reference to putin’s words seriously fills the federal and regional budget of russia, we

also know from our sources that the exception was achieved here belgium or antwerp is home to the largest diamond exchange in the world, and greece took care of its shipping business , which permalta, whose tankers mainly transport russian oil. well, in the event of price restrictions on it, the cargo is sold more expensive than specified, and they will not be able to transport it. well, but in exchange for support, there is of their shipping business , they did not begin to block the maximum price for russian oil. well, the most noticeable one, actually . the introduction of a ceiling on the value of raw materials and it will begin to operate on december 5. but we do not yet know what the maximum price is, because it will be determined by the countries from the group of seven that previously reached a political agreement . to do so will essentially prohibit the transportation of russian oil by sea to third countries for at a price higher than the established one, and this should limit russian surplus profits, there will be restrictions, i mentioned the group of seven, japan, great britain

and the united states will also be added to the eighth package of sanctions, the european union is also extending the ban on imports to russia will stop buying, in particular, some types of steel. and restrictions on exports are also being expanded. accordingly, russia will not be able to receive components important for its aircraft fleet and defense industry. this is another blow to the russian economy, which already has significant problems, european officials believe, but the european commission is ready to go further and talk about restrictions gas prices as well and to follow this political course despite the difficulties that have to be experienced, the russian war is causing economic and social difficulties and it is a heavy burden on of our citizens on the economy and our single market, we see in particular the increase in prices for energy carriers, gas and electricity, but our resilience during all these difficult times is extraordinary and what we must do is to constantly work on our resilience

, the blacklists with this package of sanctions are replenished with twenty- nine names and there are those who in the eu are considered to be involved in the organization of pseudo-referendums as representatives of the occupying power on the ground, and i mean in the occupied course of the now already annexed ukrainian regions and the russian election committee the head of the central committee of the russian panfilov, in particular, was added to the list, and she is among those who will not be allowed to enter here, or her assets here, if found, will be blocked on the territory of the eu, singers are active, why do they support the war, this is oleg gazmanov, mykola is restocking yuliya checherin well, the eighth package is the head of litovsky for example, the ministry of foreign affairs, for example, is traditionally happy for the strongest possible sanctions against russia, which is in principle the baltic states, poland, and their proposals were more ambitious, so the head of the lithuanian foreign ministry called this package weak, but at the same time noted that it is better than nothing, because russia's isolation is deepening, and support for ukraine was said today by the head of european diplomacy , and the kremlin's nuclear threats should not be shaken. thank you

very much. zoryana stepanenko from brussels is monitoring the implementation of the eighth sanctions package. uh, is he in touch with us yet, i don't see it, they say that he is, we are waiting for minutes hello well, how do you evaluate the 8th package of sanctions, experts say that this is very strong measures but uh, and others experts say that it is not enough to weaken the regime of vladimir putin, at least in the near future. well, you know , we’ll discuss the detail of it, probably. there’s no time, mmm, for that he appears, too, clear and on the oil

price for a whole range of the interstates, which were prohibited or would be exported either import is 7 billion euros, but you need to understand that the eighth package means that we are already looking for what has not yet been prevented by sanctions, and therefore, uh, think about what all the new packages will be. what are they even more acute and than the previous ones, for sure, uh, so it is impossible to think about sanctions, they really are they have already been adopted very and very strongly, they have a great influence on the russian economy, especially on the economy of the military industry, and the most important thing is that they have already been adopted a long time ago, but the ban on e-exports to russia is not high -tech e-products, or, or, or

some m-m invented and it very strongly indeed affects the potential of russia eh when i look ahead i think that there is an additional need for the most different sanctions and personal economic ones need to be closed eh the most different hm eh holes which appear in these mechanisms so that no one would ask about them. but if we take it as a whole, what kind of sanction can still be implemented in life that really painfully affected the kremlin power on the kremlin power? i would say that we need to look for a solution here in of the second e-e in the second initiatives and that is why even today in the parliament i spoke about the fact that sanctions work but the most useful sanction would be if we, in the near future, would support the initiative

of ukraine to create a special tribunal from two tribunals for the crime of military aggression later what is a special tribunal that would be sent directly to the address of putin at the very top of the kremlin, and it could affect both as an instrument for international justice and as an instrument that has a very large political significance, both for the internal situation of russia itself and for the entire western world , and what is the problem? a little second question already of international law, ukraine does big things that support such an initiative, the european parliament will again vote tomorrow