invitation experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow see the saturday political club that saturdays are not with the press this is my country my fields my friends parents neighbors students doctors teachers warriors we are all all all regardless of age faith likes convictions we are all united now we will win glory to ukraine on the air from washington the program of the ukrainian service voice of america time there i am yuliya yarmolenko i congratulate

the ukrainian military on the front lines are impressed the effective use of western weapons helps them win on the battlefield, and this dynamic is irreversible, this is the opinion expressed by a retired american general, the former director of the cia, where from petraeus on the sidelines of the warsaw security forum , meanwhile, the head of the military committee does not allow the participants of the forum what they propose to do to prevent a potential nuclear threat from russia and not only let's talk about it with myroslava gongadze, who followed all the main events of the security forum in warsaw myroslava greetings to yulia varshavskyi the security forum is actually taking place while the ukrainian military continues to carry out a successful counteroffensive, the participants of the forum react to the latest successes of the ukrainians, and whether in their opinion it is possible to talk about the turning point in the price you already know yulia 2 days in a row both government officials and high-ranking military officials from different countries of the world here

are present almost all the european leaders and european countries as well as the united states of other countries, they speak about the extraordinary successes of the ukrainian military and express surprise and admiration in principle for those successes , as one of the generals of the american generals said, that war and the army and the success of the army are will and logistics, and it looks like the ukrainian army has demonstrated its extraordinary competence in one and the other, in particular mr. general petraeus, who spoke several times at this forum, also spoke about this, and i had the opportunity to ask him questions about the successes of the ukrainian military in the last few years, let's listen to his ukrainian successes extremely impressive and they reflect a very

harsh reality for russia, it is that russia lost the war of mobilization ukraine and from the very beginning achieved much better results in recruiting, training, equipping organizations and using military forces than russia. for a total amount of 17.5 billion dollars. and also the supply of other countries of nato and the west. ukraine has shown excellent results in the use of this aid and that is why they are winning on the battlefield and they continue to win on the battlefield because this reality described by this new dynamic is in reverse i can't imagine literally anything that russia could do partly mobilization led to the fact that more men left russia than went to the conscription centers it is not clear that they are even able to train these people properly and they will become myroslav's cannon fodder, at the same time many

commentators are now talking about the fact that now is not the time to relax and there is also a lot of attention on the forum chained to potential nuclear threats from russia and where they rested. by the way, the day before, i expressed the opinion that all these threats voiced by putin are almost irresponsible rhetoric. there were also opinions on the forum about the seriousness of the nuclear threat and the ways to prevent it, you know julia. that's how everyone talked about the nuclear threat and the possibility of using nuclear weapons here asked the question, is it possible or impossible, in particular , general petro told me the same way that a certain number of measures are being prepared that the united states and you will have to carry out in cooperation with nato, in the event that such a nuclear

threat or such a nuclear attack will happen as well this reaction, as the military says, must be very quick and very serious, and in particular, ben hodges, general ben hodges, told me about this. he said that other countries, such as north korea and china, will be watching this the reaction is exactly why terrorist attacks should be very tough let's listen to where it is i think that russia's nuclear weapons are most effective when they don't use them i mean that the very fact of the threat - that's what makes everyone else hesitate to take certain actions we basically hold ourselves back because of anxiety as for what russia can do, this is what i mean when i say that russian nuclear weapons are most effective when they are not used, as soon as they use them, it will be over, then they will be

crushed, so i think the best way to avoid such a possibility is to do what we are already doing, make it clear that we will not tolerate such a step, the answer will be a price and it will be devastating, therefore our signals should be directed not so much to putin as to his entourage, to those who have the most to lose or have something to lose if they have any hope of living after putin if they have any hope of any return to normalcy they will make sure he doesn't use nuclear weapons very important statements usually come from american ex of myroslav's military today, a separate topic of discussion at the warsaw forum was the bringing to justice those guilty of war crimes, is there a shift in this area? yuliya is just the prosecutor general of ukraine here, he spoke on several forms, as well as a lot of lawyers. well, it is clear that the officials in particular ambassadors, the ambassador of the united states to the osce spoke today

at this very forum about war crimes, and of course everyone agrees that there is clear evidence that the russians are commit war crimes on the territory of ukraine and that it is necessary to find ways to bring them to justice, and today the prosecutor general of ukraine says that there are a lot of crimes , in fact, we do not even know yet, because in such cities, unlike others, we do not even know the volumes and volumes of these crimes definitely thank you myroslava on the call from warsaw was my colleague myroslava gongadze the day before, within the framework of the warsaw security forum of the people of ukraine, the award of the knight of freedom for outstanding bravery in the fight for the most important principles of democracy, freedom, security and justice, as well as for unprecedented endurance in resisting russian brutal military aggression on behalf of the ukrainian people, the award

was accepted by the first lady olena zelenska before the award presentation, the prime minister of lithuania ingrida-shimanita emphasized that the bravery of ukrainians changes world and that in the end ukraine will win here is a part from her powerful speech many feared that kyiv would fall if not in three days then in a couple of weeks many feared that the people ukraine may not survive even with all our sincere support and all the help we could provide, but the 44-million army was not afraid. ukraine showed the whole world that the so-called second most powerful army in the world turned out to be incapable of superiority and the courage of a freedom-loving people. those who chose to close their eyes can now clearly see that the people of ukraine can defend every inch of their territory and the right of every child of ukraine to grow up in a free and independent homeland and that in the end

ukraine will win this war otherwise it will be the end ukrainian bravery painted cities around the world in blue and yellow colors, reminding that thanks to ukrainians our people can still enjoy justice, security, human rights and freedom, they can plan for the future ukrainian bravery is changing the world forcing every country and every person to decide on which side of history they want to be ukrainian bravery makes our continent safer by giving impetus to political decisions that were long delayed due to a lack of political will or ambition, such as ending energy dependence on russia increased defense spending steps forward on eu enlargement i only pray that we in the west retain some of this courage to maintain unity and not tremble in the face of russia's constant intimidation with energy blackmail and nuclear threats as it is our duty not to lose a clear vision of the situation due to the energy bill or the prospect of a drop in ratings, we should

continue to help ukraine win this decisive war. this award may be one of many that the indomitable ukrainian people will receive , but without a doubt the greatest award will be the one that they will do it themselves, it will be the victory of good over evil, the victory of ukraine. glory to ukraine will fall by 35% this year. the vice-president of the organization and nabarzh emphasized that ukraine continues to need extremely large financial support until this is not needed. the war continues, but help will also be needed for restoration and reconstruction projects, my colleague . on solomenko studied how the war affected the ukrainian economy and how much time and money is needed for its recovery, economists claim that this is the destruction of the ukrainian economy caused by the war is terrible, because the system suffered not only from the point of view of infrastructure, but also human

capital, according to jennifer mordashvili, head of the center for management and markets at the university of pittsburgh - this impact will be felt by several more generations, but ukraine has something that other countries that suffered from conflicts did not have: a strong sense of identity and a sense of purpose yurii horodnichenko, professor of economics at the university of california, berkeley, comparing the damage caused to the ukrainian economy by the war with other countries, for example yugoslavia notes that ukraine has approximately the same indicators, our estimates show that er, gdp is reduced by 30-50%, yes. if you compare, for example, what happened in yugoslavia, there was an approximate reduction of 50%, that is, compared to the second world war, this is all very it depended a lot on how close you are to the front line, for example, in ukraine there was probably 80% to 90% reduction in production there. in grudnichenko

adds many territories of ukraine that were covered by the war in mariupol there were two huge metallurgical plants they provided a significant share of foreign exchange revenue that went to the budget, and there is nothing to fill these gaps at the moment. but in the next year, if the destruction of the infrastructure of the economy continues, then it will continue to be the main thing for us to come together with the international community to such a situation, to such a level of sanctions and support for the economy, sanctions for russia so that the russian economy would fall more, and the ukrainian economy would hold up or maybe even grow, according to the forecast of the ministry of economics , the growth in real terms of gdp will be 4.6% next year, i hope it will be like that, according to tymofii melovanov, president of the kyiv school of economics, currently the budget deficit is from 38 to 50 billion dollars. ukraine hopes to cover it at the expense of international partners. negotiations about this are ongoing both with individual countries and with institutions with the imf. the victory of the imf.

things have to spend money they say we are not used to war - this is our mandate it is not important the important point is that now ukraine is fighting for the whole world for that stability in the world for which to in general, according to mylovanov's estimates, about 750 billion dollars are needed to restore the economy of ukraine and 10 years, figures from 17 billion, for example, what is needed right now is quite critical infrastructure, it may take a year, maybe even two. but after this restoration of ukraine - this is not just about the reproduction of ukraine as it was on february 23, 2022, it will be about the deep modernization of ukraine, green technologies, new ways of producing deep integration with the european union an economist who, together with his colleagues, is convinced that although he will work on the recovery plan for ukraine in the spring, many projects will be implemented

at the expense of direct foreign investment, part of the funds should also be provided by partners, it should be some kind of centralized agency that will be similar to the marshall plan, which will also coordinate internally in millionaires in ukraine and outside ukraine because if there is another structure, it will be such a chaotic process and this should be avoided. the country participates in this process, because the european union in the end, if ukraine is not the owner of this process, none of this will work , gorodnyachenko added, adding that the experts also studied the negative experience of afghanistan and iraq, it is very important in the process of reconstruction to make the same mistakes and, in turn, marta warns that the seams will be more frequent this year in the united states they give ukraine, i think, four times more than the us spending during the height of the war in afghanistan, yes, ukraine needs significant support, but without proper supervision, without proper monitoring, it will lead to great corruption

the united states accuses the people of afghanistan of being corrupt, but in reality it was the result of poor monitoring and oversight. so in the case of ukraine, instead of spending huge sums of money on expensive american contractors , the united states should direct these funds to local governments, let people at the local level and decide how this money spent allow a local reporting mechanism to control it people will care about it much more than donors if people know it is their money among other mechanisms financing the recovery of the economy, experts also call the reparations to be paid by russia after its defeat, however, the winner of the nobel prize in economics, roger meyerson, is convinced that this way will be effective only if russia agrees to do it voluntarily, or it is unlikely to happen in this case, i think the cost of restoring

ukraine should be a good investment for the united states and western europe, if the new russian regime does not volunteer to support the reconstruction of ukraine, it will cost us more in the long run to try to get these funds from them were coerced under duress, all positions disagree, he is convinced that russia should pay for the destruction of ukraine both through the reparations mechanism and the confiscation of foreign assets of the aggressor country from new york iryna solomko voice of america, more than 30 thousand ukrainians have already used the united for ukraine program for how the united states receives those who are forced to flee from the russian war, so that more than 20,000 arrived in the united states after crossing the border with mexico in the spring, part of those who arrive in america without sponsors no can find housing for such forced migrants in orange county, california, they have organized a special shelter, but how do families from zaporizhzhia, slavyansk

, kyiv and crimea live there? khrystyna shevchenko will tell you about this premises of one of the californian churches . 12 people live here until recently. they did not know each other and their our paths crossed when we became forced refugees, so we were treated, they often treat us, that we are brought something, so people are very kind. we have many children, and they often bring something for the children, and well, for us, there is always some kind of dinner they can bring some things, well, the center of the apartment is the kitchen, residents often gather around the table and discuss news from ukraine, nothing what about the free 2,000 km of our territory. i came with a small handbag, three books, a wallet and a phone, and

that's all. i didn't have any underwear to change into anything, they all have similar stories, they managed to cross the border but couldn't find a sponsor who would offer help with housing, through social networks they came across volunteer tetyana hauser, who at the beginning of the war organizes housing for ukrainian refugees, we have 12 people and two families, at the moment we have 12 people, because there are two families, a family from crimea, they have three small children, a family from zaporozhye, they are 6 years old, a girl, a woman, 73 years old, a man, 54 years old from kyiv, that is, up to 12 people, and there is also a family from zaporizhzhia - these are two sisters, iryna and kateryna, they show us their shared bedroom, catherine's daughter lives with them, so well, this is our room, this is ours with our daughter, the bed is like a mattress, but it is very it's comfortable, and

it's iryna's bed put things together, well, kateryna and iryna are just starting their journey in america, the girls are waiting for a long process of adaptation, i'm really waiting for my ukraine, i'm waiting who will be difficult for you, the language barrier, but there is a program there where we can learn the language for free, so i have hope that everything it will be good god what source of income now no no there is nothing now what is the problem so they are for work a work permit we are filling out the documents now and as soon as we receive the permit and we will work right away for now all the basic things are provided in the house with food and clothes ordinary americans, ukrainians, belarusians

, and russians are helping, the premises, which are more like a house , have agreed to rent them out for a small amount of money, says tetyana hauser, there is an organization called iq, they are an organization in san diego, and they helped us a lot, they rented this building for us another person, a private sponsor, helped with money, that is, from the world by thread, and mine opened this shelter and i. a few more volunteers are helping, and people are simply announcing themselves in social networks, so pensioner oleksandra also turned to volunteers from slavyansk, a woman shows us her room, she came to america because her youngest son had been living here for several years, for her to go through the war and leave her native slavyansk was another gift after a personal choir in the first year, she buried her eldest son and her husband, her husband had a stroke, then

the hospital then the amputation, then she buried her husband in march, her son was helping the ministry. well, it so happened that he was also found in his head, how did it all begin? a month ago, she was my colleague, but she left before ugu left earlier, i left later, and that’s why i went, so to speak, to bizhin, that’s what happened now. oleksandra is waiting until her younger son finds a bigger apartment in los angeles and takes her in a house. refugees will live until they find alternative housing, tetyana says the shelter is constantly in need of volunteers to help with transportation and teaching english. tetyana herself, a russian woman who left for the

usa at the age of 19, says she could not stay away from the tragedy in i was against ukraine and the fact that the war started between them i was against the fact that the war started between our peoples instead of chernihiv oblast mom from zombska and i am proud that i am half ukrainian ukrainian being from russia as being with russia how can we not do anything we just have to must somehow help, despite the fact that all these people were previously strangers and lived in different corners of ukraine, they try to support each other, sympathize and rejoice in victories to our fallen heroes, thank god that everything has already improved. thank you to our heroes who protect

our native land, mrs. tamara, an immigrant from vinnytsia, no longer lives in the house, but she visits almost every day, as do many other refugees who, although they have left, still come here from time to time just for treatment in the kitchen with her khrystyna and bohdan shevchenko orange county california for the voice of america at the beginning of the full-scale russian war, tens of thousands of orphanages were evacuated from the war zone, hundreds of orphans were displaced in their own in the country or abroad due to a lack of staff, children are catastrophically lacking in attention to solve this problem, a group of american scientists who conduct interesting online lessons for children and open up the world of physics, astronomy and mathematics to them says ksenia

torkova . fragment of some ordinary i want a very interesting online lesson children ask adults answer in fact between them something much more than thousands of kilometers american scientists arrange virtual tours of laboratories for ukrainian children, refugees and orphans, children of orphanages, astrophysics, former instructor of astronauts yuliya brodska tells how she and her colleagues came up with this idea when the war started, when the war started, of course, the first few weeks were an absolute shock, well , then we introduced ourselves what is happening with children so that but then we imagined what happens to children what happens to parents how important is some sense of normality normal schedule normal structure normal structure of hundreds orphans from dozens of orphanages after

the start of the war turned out to be refugees. in ukraine itself and abroad, there are many children, and the staff is catastrophically short of time and energy, it is necessary to feed them, put them to bed . immediately after the start of hostilities and ended up in poland for 106 children four educators online lessons the only opportunity to rest in 45 minutes while they bring the child you you have time to rest a little both physically and mentally we we are around the children all the time, even when we bring them to classes with american teachers. we are responsible for the lives and health of these children at this time, despite the fact that someone else is taking care of them, but we can go out to breathe fresh air, we can walk quietly in silence it's much easier to distract yourself a little. and

the former entrepreneur halyna bondaruk, who left her grain business after the start of the war and started working with children, has almost a thousand wards. her foundation helps orphans brought to lviv from the capacity of different ukrainians, no one cares about these children, it’s a good thing they have now gone to school, they are at school until lunchtime, they have to do their homework all summer, they were like homeless staff, who at the locations they only feed them and put them to sleep. colleagues to help children have connected all their knowledge, the contacts of teachers, scientists, psychologists, first of all, those who can tell children about interesting science, the main goal is to capture the attention of children and relieve the staff at least a little there are several planets in our solar system that are called ice giants, so

why are they called ice giants? are they really made of flax? that we travel to the past tried to make scientific discoveries using improvised means, it is difficult to call it a standard school course, but in it can be packed various interesting things and also launched the program ask a scientist every day at a certain time two scientists on duty are waiting for the children ready to answer any questions willing to teach a lot teachers from great britain, germany, australia, usa have already joined the project a boy has arrived and a 13-year-old boy has passed 13 years old he said teach me geometry and physics as soon as possible i want to grow up to become an architect and restore the destroyed ukraine in addition to that

we invite him to various classes we found for he is an architect student who works with him and tells him exactly about the architecture of the boatmen, and you tell him exactly about the architects. halyna ferdyga is the director of comprehensive school number 3 in chernivtsi. what has become of the camp for displaced persons? halyna says that this project is simply a godsend for both children and adults. well, in our school, we call it that, but it is something else. i am very interested and it is interesting to our teachers , so the teachers also join the classes, they will take it for us for our school for now the main problem remains technology, thanks to the help of the sponsoring company, it was possible to send about 300 laptops to the children, but much more is needed. but as soon as possible, the founders of the project say that they would like to make it not temporary, but permanent, these programs can

continue even after the war and help children discover peace and dream ksenia turkova oleksiy zonev washington and that's the end of it thank you for watching voice of america in ukrainian see you tomorrow good luck papa good evening we are from ukraine vasyl's big broadcast winter my name is vasyl winter two hours of air time and my colleagues with you until 21:00 two hours of your time we will talk about the most important two hours to learn about the war serhiy zhoretska joins our broadcast military summaries of the day and what the world is like what in the world will yury tell physicist for two hours to stay up to date with the economic news of

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