we are talking about the fact that in berdyansk, after the successful work of the armed forces of ukraine, it has been detonating for more than an hour . tv viewers , we hope that we are accessible and close to ukrainians, that's all we have. my name is khrystyna yatskiv. this is my colleague antin berkovskyi. without such a life, my life would not be complete, but for you. dear tv viewers , our colleagues from the espresso tv channel will be working. and not only do not switch, stay on the waves of espresso for the fight for human rights and documenting war crimes, the ukrainian human rights organization, the center for civil liberties, received the nobel peace prize together with ukrainian human rights defenders, the prize was awarded to belarusian and russian, what does this mean for the second day in a

row, zaporizhzhia is attacked by russian missiles, which were added iranian drones, what is happening in the city, putin is not kidding, joe biden said that the nuclear threat from russia is quite real for the first time since the caribbean crisis of 1962, and zelenskyi called for preventive measures to prevent nuclear strikes. how can the world prevent a nuclear threat from russia? see svoboda life. congratulations, this is freedom. my name is lazur. we speak live on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and youtube. on the air of the espresso tv channel, if you watch us on the internet, do not forget to subscribe and like the winners of the nobel peace prize in 2022 became human rights defenders ukrainian human rights organization the center of civil svobod, as well as aliets bliatskyi from belarus, the regime of

alexander lukashenko is now holding him in prison and the russian human rights organization memorial, the first chairman of the memorial council was nobel peace prize laureate andriy sakharova at the beginning of this year, the russian authorities liquidated this organization, the nobel committee explained their decision by saying that the selected laureates represent the civil society in their countries that for many years have promoted the right to criticize the government and defend basic rights citizens, they made an outstanding effort to document war crimes, violations of human rights and abuse of power. together, they demonstrate the importance of civil society for peace and for peace and democracy. it is interesting that for the ukrainian center for civil liberties, as radio svoboda found out, the award came as a surprise due to a very large amount of work. i personally i didn't keep track of when the award will be near us, and today at 10 o'clock our scheduled planner started, the

usual working day with planning began, it was a meeting and i see something is going on in the chatiks, then i come to the yard, you understand that there are journalists standing here, something happened, well, we are in shock, we are pleasantly shocked that this happened in our lives, it seems that for some celestials such a prize is for those who have made something in scientific discoveries, and in fact we too real people who work with complex topics did not even expect that we could be nominated by the center for civil liberties - this is a ukrainian human rights organization that was founded in 2007, and you could often see the center's human rights defenders in particular, on the broadcasts of the svoboda life program, and now we are also joined by oleksandra matviychuk , the head of the board of the center for civil liberties, my greetings to you by oleksandr. i congratulate you on this award. and where did this news leave you, and on

the way home ? warsaw, that's why i'm in warsaw. how did you react when you first saw it? unfortunately , our communication is deteriorating a little. nevertheless, you know that many discussions are now going on about the fact that human rights defenders from from ukraine and from russia and from belarus, do you understand the motivation of the nobel committee to unite these joint achievements of yours and celebrate them all together? it

seems so. now they are fighting for their saturday democracy in this war with the russian federation, our colleagues of the liaison and the memorial are also fighting against their authoritarian regimes. that is, it is a struggle of people, quite ordinary people, on which christylembrics, which at one time let's do it at all. unfortunately, we have problems with sound and video. oleksandra matviychuk is on the way, are you? can you hear us? it seems to me that we have some problems with sound and video. of civil liberties,

who received the nobel peace prize today. i hope that oleksandra is still with us, if not today, then tomorrow, when she arrives in kyiv, she will get in touch, because as we could hear now, it is a very symbolic award for them. well, in the meantime correspondents of radio svoboda asked the residents of kyiv and sloviansk how they perceived the news about the nobel peace prize awarded to ukrainian human rights defenders. have they heard about it at all and do they consider this prize important? nothing can answer no, nothing. unfortunately, how important do you think it is? for our country now i believe that our human rights defenders are doing everything possible to make this peace come faster, i can't say anything, it's very important, it already means something in the world or in europe or in europe i know that our affairs are some kind of rights huskizniki well, in russian, rights are fine. defenders

mean that they have authority. why will it give more planets in principle with the help of this? nothing to increase, not to increase. i would give mir zelenskiy directly because the whole of ukraine has now risen and he, as our leader, is leading us to victory and we are fighting for the whole of europe with evil. in general, i am categorically against russians and belarusians, that they should not be allowed anywhere, neither at awards, nor at sports competitions, nor at any public activity, because the aggressor should be locked up in his country, i do not i think it's ok for our russian human rights defenders to be given the same awards, put

on the same level, because we are not equal and different. including the madmen for some kind of award. well, it seems to me that they need to be moved away from this, as if these organizations are doing something good, then in principle , well, it's not bad if they didn't get uh, the main thing is their position on the war and what's happening in general, everyone should understand what time it is now, because all russians have belarusians, well, there should not even be any mention of them, they live in the realities that existed until february of this year and they are trying to preserve these their small world where everything is fine where there is no war, the leadership's attempt to it is possible to unite who still lives by this idea, perhaps the organizers think that this is the best way to reconcile our countries, but they probably do not really understand very well what the situation is

in our country. affairs, but we also talked with human rights defenders igor kozlovsky and yevhen sakharov about what the nobel peace prize means for ukrainian human rights defenders, listen, we would like this focus to be exclusively on ukraine, especially since russia will receive the nobel peace prize for the second year in a row, and this it also catches the eye, it says that there are different opinions in the nobel committee, but this is their optics. they emphasized ukraine and er as a country where there is freedom and people who are engaged in these er- is the topic of a z from russia's point of view, this is a banned memorial organization, and this is already such a moment that suggests

that they are watching the repressions that are taking place in putin's russia, then this is a representative of the spring of lukashenka's belarus , who are so behind bars, the logic is understandable , we can't we can be annoyed by this logic, but we still need to take a different look at what ukraine is there. and that's the most important thing. to be honest, i didn't expect it to happen because there were other organizations like mine in the list of nominees native memorial, let's say, who also received this award. and here, please, who is in prison now, but they decided that and this civil liberty also deserves a nobel prize, and i am very happy about it, because it is a

good organization that has long been a leading human rights organization in ukraine, which works primarily in the field of advocacy and primarily in the field of international advocacy. lesya matviychuk, the last sailor, became such a well-served and popular e-e figure all over the world, by the way, she also personally received an alternative e-e nobel prize award quite recently, and i believe that well, if you take all the ukrainian organizations, then the most invented is not civil liberties, i think the most invented by those who are present in all the international arenas and those in the osce and in the council of europe and in the european union, they they actually broadcast these things that we all do here in ukraine together. well

, we see that the opinions of ordinary ordinary citizens are a little different from the opinions and comments of professional human rights defenders. volodymyr yavorskyi, a human rights defender, joins the broadcast well. expert center for civil liberties i congratulate you good day i congratulate you because there is probably a part of your efforts in the fact that the center for civil liberties received the nobel peace prize well, it is so obvious by the whole organization, i even think that it is more of a human rights movement with honors well good so with oleksandra matviychuk to us unfortunately , we didn't manage to talk for a long time, she is on the train heading to kyiv, but i asked her, now there are a lot of discussions going on about the fact that three countries gave the nobel peace prize to belarus and russia to human rights defenders in ukraine, more precisely, not to countries, but to representatives of these countries, and you know, i see that even politicians are already picking up on this wave. for example

, the adviser to the head of the president's office criticized mykhailo podolyak, he criticized the nobel committee, saying that this is the kind of peace in the opinion of the committee, and even some people's deputies today i watched the ruling party, the servant of the people , they even advised the center for civil liberties to refuse this award so that you answer them that first of all, this is an award, it is not a special award to the representatives of the states, i.e. these authoritative regimes that have attacked ukraine to date are fighting from ukraine in the eyes of these people, who used to be the bilyavsky memorial , they are actually one of the stopgaps of these regimes and, accordingly, since they are the enemies of these regimes and they have been doing everything that these regimes were overthrown for decades then they are our allies in fact and the second important point is that in fact this award has a very important international significance because it

shows that human rights, that we are fighting for human rights and democracy, and actually this is not in in russia and belarus, and that is why they attacked us , that is why the whole world protects us. this is precisely the difference in this approach, and it even shows the difference in the fact that a lesbian is in prison today for her human rights activities . defenders do human rights work in it is normal for ukraine and we are a democratic country , that is, here. look everywhere. in fact, it shows where for ukraine there are bricks and mortar, and i do not see any fear that we are being appeased, because these awards were actually received by the enemies of these regimes, it is the same as roughly the ukrainian zelenskyi awards a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine who is a citizen of belarus and serves in the kalinovsky regiment, we him he serves for ukraine

, he answered, he serves for the values ​​that we stand for and these people are also fighting with us on the same side i would just like to turn to our viewers who are watching us now, write in the comments if you are surprised on facebook or youtube, well, what do you think about such an award for ukrainian human rights defenders, including today also oleksandra matviychuk, after it became known that the organization received the nobel peace prize, she announced that russia should be excluded and betrayed the un security council for systematic violations of the un charter, and literally after that, news appeared that the un human rights body voted for the appointment of a new independent rapporteur on alleged violations of human rights in russia and this has happened for the first time. as far as i understand. please tell me if this is a step to expel russia from the un security council. is this a step to reforms in the face of insanity - most likely this will not happen by excluding russia itself, but by

reformatting because that structure without the un is actually outdated, it cannot respond to the realities of today because it was created after the second world war to prevent a similar war a- and it turns out that the radbiz system is built in such a way that these countries actually avoid any international influence, and that is why human rights are one of the cornerstones of this kind, and for which internationals are now attacking at the international level russia's position, let's say so, and one son on the increasingly strong argument is that russia is a mass violator of human rights and that it commits a lot of international crimes that remain close because of such a structure of the councils of lawlessness and again, this is a prize, it is an opportunity to talk about human rights violations in russia and talk about the fact that this system

needs to be changed. i think that now the chances are higher than ever. thank you very much for joining our broadcast . rape torture is not a spontaneous outburst of brutality, but a regularity in the territories of ukraine occupied by russia, the head of the us agency for international development and former us ambassador to the un, samantha power, stated this during a press conference following her visit to ukraine. according to her, after the de-occupation of the territory, over-documentation of the facts of war crimes by the russian army is simultaneously carried out by ukrainian law enforcement officers and public organizations, as well as international experts, please listen to what concerns my own experience before join the obama administration from the beginning and now the biden administration i was a war correspondent i documented war crimes and atrocities all over the world at different

stages of my career what i have never seen before are atrocities committed on the scale of a country or an army is the army of a superpower, this is a combination of such a significant military force with cruel and inhuman indifference to human life. a much, much larger army and interrupting a series of impressive military victories they liberate city after city village after village to see what the russian forces left behind and it becomes clear that these are not spontaneous outbreaks of torture or sexual violence these are not individual executions of unarmed men and women with tied behind his back with his hands, this is a regularity in the lands occupied by russian troops. on this night, russian

forces hit the city of nikopol in the dnipropetrovsk region six times with rocket launchers of fire and heavy artillery, in particular, almost 40 shells landed in nikopol, there is significant destruction , the head of the region, valentin reznichenko, said, according to him, several high-rise buildings were damaged in the city, more than 10 private houses , farm buildings and enterprises, now you can see these photos well, zaporozhye as of this morning, the number of victims yesterday's rocket attack by russian forces on residential buildings in the city increased to 12 people. of another rocket attack on the city, one of the rockets fell into the courtyard of a high-rise building, a residential building was destroyed, utility networks were damaged, at least one person was injured, and it also became known that at night russian troops attacked zaporizhzhia with drones for the first time, previously it was iranian shahedis of destruction when

infrastructure objects in two districts city, i will add here that the current report of the american institute for the study of war says that it is unlikely that iranian kamikaze drones will significantly affect the course wars well, we see that zaporizhzhia was also attacked. well , returning to zaporizhzhia, the correspondent of svoboda radio yevheniya nazarova zhenya works in the city at the moment. my greetings. what is your current situation? i am informing the zaporizhia regional military administration that there was indeed a new attempt at a missile launch by the russian military in the city. fortunately , the anti-aircraft defense forces were working and three missiles were shot down over the suburbs of zaporizhia, over one of the cannons of the zaporizhia district, and there is currently a liquidation of the consequences of the attack because there is preliminary information about a fire in that

area, and i also want to note that the liquidation of the consequences of yesterday's attack is still ongoing in zaporizhzhia . search operations are being opened now, he is not on the avenue and here work to search for missing people is stopped, according to preliminary data, 15 people have disappeared and today these works are carried out not only by rescue services, specialized services have joined the work, but also citizen volunteers 96 people from zaporozhye came to help and in the morning a meeting was announced in the city center on mayakovsky square at 10:00 and the number of panthers who wanted to join was significantly more than they actually needed the help of rescuers hello , do we have anything it boomed very loudly, flying

the ridges of the whole house, the air conditioner unit on the street was demolished, the insulation that was on the wall to make the house warmer well, i went to see that everything is covered with glass , the ground in the house is all scattered, but there is electricity, there is water, there is gas, i did not check. well, where do they spend the night? well, in general warmth. we will freeze somehow. there is no military infrastructure. well, there is nothing like that. only we lived at home. where do ordinary people live? and we could hear what people actually said about the attack on residential zhytomyr in the morning, which took place. currently, people have a problem where they they will spend the night and some of them really say that the

weather is relatively warm. well, they bought it where they allow it to stay in their apartments, but for those people there is a problem of restoring residential buildings and the area where the blow was struck is exclusively a sleeping area zaporizhzhia district thank you very much yevgenia nazarova correspondent of radio svoboda monitors the situation zaporizhzhia, thank you wife, for the first time since the caribbean crisis of 1962, the world faced the threat of using nuclear weapons. this was stated by the president of the united states of america, joe biden. according to him, putin is not joking when he threatens nuclear weapons. putin is not was joking when he talked about the potential use of tactical nuclear weapons biological or chemical weapons because his army can be said to be significantly behind for the first time since the cuban missile crisis we have a direct threat the use of nuclear weapons if, in fact, everything will continue the way they are going, i do not think that there is such a thing as the ability to easily

use tactical nuclear weapons and not end in armageddon, i will remind you that the president of russia, vladimir putin, has repeatedly threatened to use nuclear weapons, and the last time similar threats were made in a speech to putin on september 21, when he announced the mobilization in russia . meanwhile, president volodymyr zelenskyi called on nato to respond preemptively to nuclear threats to russia by increasing pressure, he said this during an online meeting in australia at an australian university, the ukrainian president's foul words caused a very violent reaction in the kremlin. now we will discuss it separately, but first let's listen to zelensky, we already see that these people are capable of such terrible steps to make nato impossible to use nuclear weapons by russia, but what is important

. if they use it instead of waiting for nuclear strikes by russia, what will you say then? oh, yes, he is keeping us from reconsidering the application of his pressure. here is what i think we should do to revise the order of application. well, as i have already said, the words of the ukrainian president caused a very violent reaction in moscow. press -secretary of the kremlin, dmytro piskov, called zelensky's rowing boat nothing more than a call for the start of a world war, although later zelensky's statement was explained by his spokesman, serhii nikiforov, who said that the president ukraine did not call on nato to launch a pre-emptive strike against russia. and what did he say? he only spoke about the period until february 24, when preventive measures should have been taken to prevent a russian

invasion of ukraine. well, indeed, volodymyr zelenskyi has indeed repeatedly called for preventive measures to be taken against russia before february 24. his no listened as we remember and there was no such agreement in the west and after that a full-scale invasion began, but here is the question of whether it is possible to preemptively prevent a nuclear strike somehow, we will talk about this further by contacting us, taras zhovtenko, expert on national security problems, candidate of political sciences, we congratulate you, well , the question really stands. is it possible to preemptively somehow prevent a nuclear strike, how can it be, ah, well, actually, here we are talking about what is called in the classical sense the policy of deterrence, yes , that is, a- in fact, this should be a demonstration of a clear toolkit of a clear strategy and a clear understanding of the situation on the part of the west in the context that the west is absolutely ready to act in the event of a direct threat of such

of a nuclear strike, because by them we understand that it is a nuclear strike that will not happen all at once. and there must be a certain preparation procedure for this nuclear strike, and it is clear that this preparation procedure will be very clearly visible to us. so if the west also very, very clearly articulates what it is observing by what the russians are doing and er periodically with a frequency somewhere around once a week western er, so to speak, reminds of these actions they say that so far the intelligence of, for example, nato member countries or the united states separately or great britain do not record any actions of russia, therefore they testified that russia is preparing to use nuclear weapons or tactical or strategic, this is the first moment and the second moment of such a warning - this is absolutely clear concrete consequences for the russian federation as a result, if such a decision is made about the use of nuclear weapons and

in fact the demonstration of the readiness of the event is a demonstration of the tools that can potentially be used by nato member countries or something like the international organization as a whole in order to uh inflict on russia these irreparable consequences as a result of a potentially adopted decision on the use of nuclear weapons here are these three components uh in the right combination they basically give what is called deterrence they give an understanding, at least, as clear as possible, yes. from the kremlin’s side, the summer of the fact that the use of nuclear weapons will be absolutely devastating not only for the current russian regime and for the russian the state as a whole but also in principle for some representatives of these elites, including the military , you said that now they obviously do not record that

russia is somehow preparing to launch nuclear strikes, but you noticed that the rhetoric of western leaders has changed somewhat, so they said before and really that the usa does not see signs that russia is going to use nuclear weapons, but now biden says that the world is faced with a real threat and surrounded merkel, for example, twice in the last month, she seems to have repeated the thesis that it should be taken seriously accepting putin's threats is also such a preventive warning, of course. this is a statement of the fact that uh, well , first of all, there really is a serious attitude of western leaders towards these nuclear threats, because, well, everyone understands that from a rational, logical point of view, russia's use of nuclear weapons in this conflict it will actually be the end of at least the current russian regime. well, at most it is basically the russian state in its current format. not to mention the armed forces, the nuclear arsenal, and so on, but everyone is fine understand that, in principle, if the strategic decision

on the use of nuclear weapons in this situation would be made by one single person and the adequacy of this person, eh, well, his rationalism and his ability to objectively assess reality under a very big question, eh, plus these statements, they also sound well, rather, not only not so much for russian russian audiences of various yes for russian citizens for russian military and political elites as much as these statements sound, including for the e-e audience at the event for citizens of the federal republic of germany, the united states of america, and so on. that is, on the one hand, this is an emphasis in principle on the seriousness of this situation in general, and on the other hand, it is also certain certain arguments for continuing to use rather harsh means of influencing russia in this situations because what if all because what if if