friends, well, in essence, you can say allies because they don't want to be in the russian-belarusian context. as you can see, i didn't say a single word of reproach to those people who think so, i understand their position, that's why yesterday when i argued with mr. ogrizm, i didn't say either what is he, you are wrong, i was just stating my position, angelika , both of these positions have every right to exist, we are now in a country that was attacked by russia, a memorial, a russian organization, i just understand these ukrainians too, who do not want to be close to russians, belarusians, my first reaction was the same . on the fact that these are three simply two neighboring countries in which there are authoritarian regimes and in which there are human rights organizations and our human rights organization has this

award that it is for the fact that it investigates russian war crimes and they investigate russian war crimes, then everything will not be perceived so emotionally by you. it seems to me that today the most emotional people react to what is connected with russia and belarus. it is precisely the people who had these things. my severed arm does not hurt because for me it is neither an arm nor a leg and not even ears and not a bridge and nothing. i won't even continue these anatomical studies. that's why i'm calm about this. as you know, angelica lived in moscow for 18 years. it seems like studying and working, but i always treated my life and the life of a foreigner in others well, how do foreign journalists or foreign students who study somewhere live there? if a person from abroad comes to kyiv to study, why does anna and ukraine become her homeland? no, she studies here. i saw people with different views. i saw them from ukraine . that's why i

treat this completely cold-bloodedly and i treat the memorial with respect to a very respectable foreign human rights organization, let's pause for a minute and continue. a proven drug, not a cosmetic mixture , we will be healthy, ask vietnamese pharmacies, trust only proven drugs , so that ukrainians don't think about it, so that they don't talk in the first place, it's still a war, a war, and our victory, seven days a week, from monday to sunday, to all the different spheres of human activity sports culture politics eight presenters expresso journalists

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supporting ukraine, we often forget, well, at least not so much, let's say that japan helps us quite a lot. this of course, not equipment and not weapons, because they do not have an officially alleged army, although they do have one, the constitution states that they cannot help in any way, and so on, but this is also humanitarian, this vest and fairy tales and support for ukraine in the international arena, in the soviet union, he is also in jay seven . what do you think about what president zelensky did, and the recognition of the royal islands completely as the territory of japan, is it still an act of gratitude or simply the restoration of justice? i think that ukraine, as a state that was part of the soviet union, and the korean islands were appropriations by the soviet union itself. so this was not the result of the second world war, which was agreed upon by the victorious states, so they say. and why, why, japan insists on this, because germany insists on

tuning national teams or for danzig from this country somehow agreed with the results of the second world war and why does japan not agree, because all these territorial divisions were agreed upon by the states that were the winners in the second world war according to the results of the conference meeting of the leaders of these countries and, in principle, were accepted by the defeated countries it was included in all the legal acts of capitulation, etc., but it was not so with japan, these international agreements signed by japan did not include the transfer of these territories to the soviet union, japan does not claim, let's say, the island of sakhalin because it is an internationally formalized transfer. but regarding the kuril islands. no, this is actually an illegal annexation of such illegal annexations in the history of the soviet union of the russian

federation . there are quite a few. what happened, let's say, to the territories of estonia and latvia, and from estonia to latvia, the soviet union, contrary to the will of these states, separated the regions of latvia and estonia , the pitalivskyi district now in latvia is the chosen and part of estonia, it is not with the current city of ivangorod in russia. by the way, i recently saw an article in the latvian newspaper nitka rega about what to do with latvia in the future if russia weakens and how to integrate the local population of latvia in

general, because as we see many people in latvian the republics still consider this annexation absolutely illegal, and it is absolutely logical , angelika, because the republic of latvia, which was restored in 1991, never gave consent to the transfer of this territory to russia for russia. it doesn't matter either, we were simply japan, it did n't disappear from the political map of the world for 50 years like latvia, no, she persistently always said, let's solve this problem. i think that ukraine has absolutely no need to show solidarity with the russian position, this territory became the territory of the russian federation as it is also known that the first secretary of the central committee of the cpsu, the chairman of the council of ministers of the soviet union, nikita khrushchev, recognized the need to solve this problem, he would have signed a declaration, which then never moved from its place according to the content of this declaration, they tried to work and the president of russia is not the president of russia, vladimir putin, all the same, it all ended by deceiving japan, the japanese always sincerely hoped for this for them, these territories are like crimea for us. when was i in tokyo

? the prime minister was the recently deceased prime minister of the country of sinziaba. i remember how much hope my japanese interlocutors had that they would be able to solve the problem in a dialogue with putin. it was the naivety of hope. i asked why you made such a decision. putin just annexed crimea how do you even get the idea that after the annexation of crimea he will give back the kurils and they told me we might want to be a decent political figure, maybe if he says that crimea is ours they will close it, that's more difficult. of course they have nothing to do with russia historically, let him it will be given to us, except, too . actually, there is nothing historical in common with russia, just your islands, he annexed the soviet union there in 1746, and the crimea in 1784 earlier, but this is also not a part of russian political history well, we argued, but i see that this problem remains one of the important political problems of japan, because it feels

like a country with an unresolved territorial issue, and i believe that ukraine, which now understands what it is like to be a country with an unresolved territorial issue, can solve such a problem accept absolutely normally. well, this issue became more acute during the russian-ukrainian war. as i understand it, they began to raise it again in foreign affairs. it is deteriorating, besides, they were convinced that this friendly dialogue that prime minister sindia was trying to conduct is not leading to anything. the current head of the japanese government, dimichi rekoi zozumi, was the minister of foreign affairs in the league of ab, in fact, he is the architect of this foreign policy that then led to contacts with this diabe with vladimir putin and with the idea that the good external personal relations of the prime minister of japan are actually a very strong politician behind the president of russia will help to find an understanding , this did not happen as a person who is directly behind

observed putin from a close distance and drew important conclusions from this. i think they even go further than we think. before his death, sim diabe, already in retirement , raised the question that japan should place elements of nuclear weapons on its territory. he did not he said that it was a japanese master element. he said that it could be an american weapon. it caused an incredible uproar in japan. zumi was born in hiroshima. how do you understand a person who was born in hiroshima? you are not. i think that we are with you. we don't understand, but it's a moral injury to a certain extent, even if nothing happened to you. because you were born there, you see it all the time. this house that was damaged by the adamic explosion will remain there . you see this museum. you live in a normal place, but you understand what it is. the city has endured something that no one has ever

endured in their life, that's why when putin scares people with holy weapons, i think he also doesn't even realize how serious this injury is, it's not at all what we think, it's not just like that, believe me, i i even remember the psychological state of being in hiroshima when you shouldn't just be sitting in a coffee shop drinking a cappuccino and eating some delicious food in a japanese restaurant and suddenly you don't feel happy because of this, it's something to understand you are under pressure all the same well, we now have many such places in ukraine too. it seems to me that the scale of this issue is not even you alone. and what do you encounter with such a moment of mass death, any missile bombardment of dresden or kovel or mariupol is the usual one there ? similar things but they are not instantaneous in hiroshima you meet with the instantaneous death of thousands of people

atomic bombing - this is not an ordinary missile discussion precisely from the point of view of this instantaneous death and i just mean that i understand the psychology of hayizumi but i believe that sooner or later japan is forced will return to this whole story with this simple reason that this game is being played with japan, you see the dprk is an ally of putin, how did he even congratulate him on his 70th birthday in putin did together with sidzempin everything is possible to give an opportunity it is very bad for this dictator to get nuclear weapons. it obviously threatens the national security of japan. who said that the elements of nuclear weapons should not be located in japan or in south korea ? this is how our world works in general. because the japanese worked on this port, they should be afraid to disappear because some

idiots live nearby. to prove that for i sincerely congratulate this putin, i said diplomatically the disaster associated with the decision of our president, so let's move on to the next topic to zaporizhzhia about the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant of ours . the threats that exist there are constantly being fired at, after all, without our workers, the russians cannot cope with this power plant. because our experts assure that the plant is already built according to new technologies, there are no analogues in russia, so without us they can't handle it, and they say that it is our employees, even though they went to the machines, they can control the situation there in a certain way. it is obvious. yes, i do not

agree with this. maybe something can change this situation , for example. how many were there for sure, but there were only 4,000 employees left, there was a moment when they were releasing it from the energy donation, and now they n- if they continue to release, in principle, there will be no one left there, are they that many employees, well responsible people that they will stay there until the end despite the pressure. i think that the question is that many people cannot stay there at all because they will not be released from there. now you see in general the level of their competence of this great technological power. well, i don’t know what to do with rosatom. don’t stop. what is the column about so that people who don’t live there can’t even imagine the level of general backwardness? well, i won’t say that in in general, the city of moscow is backward. but you can’t

close all the holes in the city of moscow and, accordingly, the education of t staff, foreigners, how to sleep. yes, some people with a good western education are now all these people running away from here like hares. but they have always been there. but then again when it comes to what we need. here's a tour of the nuclear power plant. send someone there. send someone here . there are simply not enough people in moscow, so i'm very afraid of professional staff. try because they obviously i don't understand why but you see they live in their own world they expected from the mission to wave that the mission of megaten writes what they will like so they let her in thanks a lot of places i didn't do that so i don't know what now the general director of the magathe can succeed, the situation is not the same when he goes to moscow well, what

are they mocking him, do you remember how they mocked everyone, here they came to borel, when he tried to negotiate with them on the eve of the war and they openly mocked him, it is already obvious he did not expect this. he was expecting some kind of dialogue , as he is used to diplomatic conversations, we think so, you think so, we can offer you a topic here, you will offer it, but i met all the gopniks who simply arranged a concert for him at the press conference. the same now regarding russia, they write that the money is being taken to moscow directly, some signals from the united states of america, some warnings to putin if he warns putin that the united states if putin raises russian planes with nuclear weapons into the sky raise their planes, then he can succeed, but i am not sure that he has such signals in case, so in this misunderstanding, in any case,

any person who carries a hard signal in a suitcase to putin, let him get to moscow, don't mind of this clearly , in general, our expectations about this organization were met because when the first report was, let's say , not open, but just the conclusions, you remember, we were somehow generally not satisfied now. after all , they admit that this is a ukrainian nuclear power plant and supposedly they support ukraine, but but they go to talk to the russians, we accept it as normal . i think that we even received more from the rich than we wanted, because when the coin mission was going , we said, let's see what representatives of the countries are there, certain representatives of the countries who obviously sympathize with russia, the russians will show what they want . they will not talk about russia military participation because they can't they said everything there is no presence there representing experts from serbia or the people's republic of china did not change these accents and clearly i say that the russians were they are angry and it seems to me that they are russians. no, we

do not understand in principle how large international organizations work. citizenship does not matter . you have a united nations passport in your pocket. this is a guarantee of your reputation and your future. by and large, your future does not depend on of the future government of your country, which is why it will always remain in china. but you, as a chinese expert, can, as you know, pass between the drops. and in other countries, in principle, regardless, because it is a long term, it is this passport if you spit your reputation, you will remain without all this and you will get to a completely different level of the existence of reputation and any other, and if you remain simply faithful to your reputation, well, you can say that a person who just lives his life will use his profession with some mission in- you know that there were secretaries-general of his nobel laureates to trust dahammer quickly fiana -

this is the kind of work that, despite the fact that we have claims to the un itself, gives people the opportunity to put forward certain ideas of protecting the values ​​of the current the general secretary, as you can see, behaves quite harshly in relation to russia. he is not looking for any opportunities to justify aggression. he is also there. of course, they already hate him, and it is obvious that when a new general secretary is elected, they will look for someone who will behave differently. but again, yes when a person finds himself in this position, he will already be angry at the one who supported him. he was re-elected and needed a reputation . keep it, because it is already for the quiet general tarot, you will always live with this title and always you will say oh, you were on such trade winds and how could you support such natives like you? you are not ashamed. you will not be invited to give lectures. you will not go anywhere. you will simply be an exile after your resignation. and you can be a person with a world reputation . why should you think about putin? yes, for a person

it is just the same thing to compete and also with the general director, you understand that all these people , unlike putin, do not sit in their positions forever, but these positions are reputable, let's say so, correct moral professional behavior in such people in such positions are the guarantee of the future for these people, and this is the value. by the way of electoral democracy, people do not want to risk their future for the sake of, and for them, reputation is even more important than their own opinion. maybe they do not agree with this, but they must do exactly that. they just think how they will look now tomorrow in the eyes. i am my co-workers in the family, well, if only there were specialties. well , this is a whole problem, mr. vitaly. what do you think , why do the russians continue to shell energodar and around and next to zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it's still stupid, is it some kind of weakness of theirs , or are they blackmailing

about stupidity in this way? we just remember how they were near chernobyl, they didn't understand that they were infected with radiation and so on, then they went there , relatively speaking were enlightened in hospitals. i think that they really need to create in this region a situation connected with terror, terror that somehow must be felt by the population plus blackmail from the west. putin generally trades in fear as such this is his main fc profession, in principle, this is the main profession of any state security investigative committee of the soviet union or the fsb, if you go to their office for questioning, what do they do, they don't talk to you, they intimidate you. they are no longer interested in knowing. and trembled after that, the conversation begins again, not about information, but please sign here, please sign here, here's what to do. show us what we need. here's what's written for you. read it. look at the camera. well,

putin is just doing it on a global scale. well he has the zaporizhzhia npp, you think it's simple when he fires at energodar - it's about as it should be. do you start hitting your wrists with some kind of stun gun? you're not surprised if the kgb investigators are doing it. you understand his logic, we you. why are you doing this ? why can't we talk? because i don't want you to talk i want to come here i confessed that you killed your grandmother in 1875 and that there was no grandmother and you in 1875 they are not included here is the text here is the signature this is also the largest power plant in europe i think that in the current situation in in the war between ukraine and russia, the only possibility to regain control of the zaporizhzhia hpp is the liberation of the zaporizhzhia region from the invaders, of course it can happen in different ways, it can happen in a way that does not affect the zone of war and then forces the occupying forces to leave there, and

therefore i think that when the general director of megate talks about the demilitarization of this zone, then this is exactly in our interests, because our troops are not there, russian troops are stationed there, but they should not leave there, even if international forces are stationed there. i think that russia will not agree to this, but ask under what conditions it will agree, no. and if we are surrounded by them, does russian territory now belong to them according to their constitutional norms or not? by the way, we do not know which borders zaporizhia oblast is attached to, there is definitely energodar. ask the sand , they are being released all the time, and their territory is getting smaller. she says that we want to consult the population, which means that when the population is already released, they cannot consult us. as long as it is controlled by them, they are not controlled. i think that in the situation that has developed is really important. yes, energodar may be surrounded. it may be the exit of the russian military contingent. this is also important . the situation is when people are received. who are there

in the green corridor? in order to leave the as zone, that is, there may be different solutions. but this is already a matter for the ukrainian military command . i don't believe in any negotiation results of conversations with vladimir putin, do you understand in general, this is a dead end angelika, think about the seizure of territory, including energodar. this is the only thing that putin now he can present to the russian population that we have won. but at the same time, this closes any possibility for negotiations with ukraine, even with ukraine's western allies, because if you say, listen, what does that mean, we will talk with you about what? neutrality, what is there to talk about when you simply annexed four ukrainian regions for yourself in a completely illegal way without even trying to create at least one in crimea, on the other hand, russia is not interested in continuing hostilities because it may lose these territories in order to stop the hostilities, it is necessary to withdraw the troops, well, negotiations, even if

not to withdraw the troops, it is a loss of territory in order to stop the hostilities, that is, to freeze the conflict, negotiations are needed, but negotiations cannot be held, that's why why because they don't want to withdraw the troops from there, they want to leave it behind, well, by the way, they are already saying that we are ready for negotiations as soon as we began to liberate more and more territories that are ours and ours, that is, what we captured should be ours, what negotiations normal, anything can happen only after the situation when all russian troops leave all the territories captured after 2014, including crimea and the occupied territories of donetsk and luhansk regions, of course they can take their mercenaries with them, they can take people who sympathize with the russian measure, these people have no and there will be no place on ukrainian land and they should know about it, but one way or another, all citizens living in the territories of these regions are hostages of the russian federation. by the way, they are considered hostages

even those people who have political views that are different from ours, who like russia and putin - it doesn't matter what they like, you understand. if they did not commit any acts related to the violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine. every person has the right to his political position let him go to the elections and vote for some party in the peace of progress now it is difficult to find out who participated and who did not who took pictures there of some military facilities of ukraine, the armed forces of ukraine and so on conveyed all this, it is difficult to find out who were the members of the people's councils of the dpr of the lpr, it is open . these are people who committed direct actions. but i believe that people are people, even pro-russian oppositions are still hostages of russia

, because russia would bring them home, misery and mountains and war, they lived for themselves and lived with their views which we can consider idiotic, they went to work, raised their children, and here suddenly, in principle, each of these people can die tomorrow together with his family simply because putin wanted to, not us, we did not prevent this person from going to the elections and voting for p she died voting for yanukovych in her bed, and now she can die in a terrible state from shelling from war from military actions, this person does not deserve this, any person, no matter how idiotic we were views does not deserve to die from the war by vitaly by the way, for 8 years at the beginning of the war in donbas and russian aggression, we talked about the reintegration of these territories, but now it seems to me that it is already approaching, this is reintegration, because thank god our armed forces are successful in the east, including if we talk about reintegration , you have already begun to answer this question. what, after all,

those who were directly against ukraine and for russia and directly participated in the murders there and so on, those who had to answer and what to do with others, to forgive, what to do and how to determine where the border of political views is not persecution, but in germany, let's say, after its liberation from the nazis, there was a program of denazification, which was based on the introduction of a huge number of citizens of then germany who were supporters of the national socialist dialogue these people, in contrast to those who were direct members of the nsdrp or the ss, we are even more of a session of these party members, no one condemned them, there were no trials, etc. they are like people who are not worked in government structures, some of them calmly

worked in their supermarkets, there, small shops, bookstores in the field, or even were soldiers, ordinary verma, why should they be condemned , but they were told about the crimes of the regime, they were systematically taken to the constitutional camps on excursions, what they saw, what those they supported did, then there was the rebuilt education system in germany still has a lot of information about hitler's atrocities about the holocaust about the killing of roma about the killing of people from social sexual minorities