cameras and it will start, but now it does not count, but we see a sociological survey even about the ownership of these logical centers. here, i believe that a few days ago, one of the main cytological centers passed away, he published data on the level of concern of the russian of society and before the mobilization began, there were such figures that approximately 50% of the population believed that everything was fine there, and only 20% were worried about what was happening around them now , the numbers are such that 75-76 percent are worried and only there at 15 or 16, they think that everything is fine. well, it’s like that. well, it’s just a change at the same time. after

the announcement of mobilization, that is, the situation is just critical, and uh, here is already uh, a question for the elite, uh , because now there is a sense of disaster that is, it's just a feeling of disaster and they don't know what to do with it, or again. they don't know what they can do to influence the situation, but here we see the beginning of such a grouping . e in the environment around putin with kadyrov prigozhin and kyryenko, that is, well, the process he has already left, we don't know how fast he will develop, but he obviously left. thank you very much , ilya ponomarev. i have now found a job for him after ukraine defeats russia, because he is improving his ukrainian language every week, and the russians will need to learn the ukrainian language, and here he is

coming to ponomaryov says to moscow, and i know i can take a lot of money for education. here is the prospect for you. i will be the first president of the russian federation who will communicate with the ukrainian president directly in the ukrainian language. i will also find people in ukraine who will vote for you, thank you very much. good luck. so, ilya ponomaryev, a russian pensioner, a former member of the state duma of russia, was in touch with us, and now vadym chernysh, minister of ukraine for the issues of temporarily occupied territories of internally displaced persons 16 for 19 years, mr. vadim, i haven't seen or heard you yet, but now i see and hear everything, good health, mr. volodymyr, it's good to see you, i'm also glad to see you, let's deal with this explosion. what was it? the english say that it was very sophisticated ukrainian work, some say that it is between the

fsb and the ministry of defense of russia, that is how they find out the relationship on the surface of the crimean bridge, ah, the ukrainian official authorities say that we are useless here . in short, there is such a rather confusing situation. that they are very fruitful with the special services of the united states, they are such specialists, they have such a course of action in nato, and they say that they are ukrainians. well, they have the impression that it was the americans who told them that they were ukrainians. what would you say, why? who is what? what could be the consequences? in fact. this is a circle of questions. please see. well , first of all, there is no normal intelligence service if it operates on the territory of another country or even on its own territory

. will not talk about the methods, nor about the sources of information, let's say there, nor about the methods by which it acts, let us already hint then it is about what it is conditionally say, you should guess that there is a connection, but you should not be 100% convinced, then this is professionalism professionalism consists not only in undermining a, but also in the fact that not a single investigation led to you, well on 100%, i.e. maybe you can know and what happened like that can be guessed, but there are no accurate data, this is then professional intelligence or professional a let's say an activity or an action or an action regarding who could have done it. of course, it could have been done by the ukrainian special services. and by the way, many experts who do not have the entire mass of information with the

vulture secretly note a few signs that it could have been successfully carried out by ukrainian services. well, first of all, an almost simultaneous attack on the railway infrastructure in ilovaisk, that is, at about the same time on the same day or on the same night, it was hit by ukrainian hammers well, i say it deliberately by ukrainian hammers because since we and we use that, we are already, i think, definitely ukrainian hammers by ukrainian mykhailo it was precisely the railway infrastructure in the city of ilovaisk that was destroyed and the crimean so-called bridge through the crimean strait and ilovaisk are two such infrastructure objects that interfere with railway transport for some time and will certainly interfere with the means and forces to the zaporizhia e-e

zaporizhia e-e to the russian troops located on the territory of the zaporizhia region and to the khersonsk mykolayivsk part already now from mykolaiv to kherson region therefore, synchronicity is the first element, the second is synchro- synchronicity in fact, these are two bridges next to each other, well, there are four of them by the way, we must not forget the energy bridge and there is also a fuel one. it seems to me like a bridge like these two the railway and road bridges were very strangely synchronized with each other during the explosion , i.e. those tanks that were on top of the railway bridge and one of the parts of the road bridge itself. in the same place, a train with tankers ended up. that is, if we say that these were actions, then they were all

taken into account, so they were calculated all together so that they happened at the same time. now, technically, it is very, very difficult to do this, because such a thing is necessary the amount of substance that cannot be carried in a pocket, so there are no signs that it was hit by missiles now. could the russians have done it, too, of course, they would not have synchronized without ilovaisk, there is less chance that the russians could do it, but i emphasize that it is a mistake from our officials this bridge , the main burden of protection from sabotage does not rely on the fsb, the fsb relied on it. and for the guard, there is a specially formed brigade for which the funds of the state duma were allocated, and they stuffed it, excuse the slang word, with completely modern equipment including parts of the foreign forces with foreign blocks so that this brigade, which is based in

kerch and on the taman peninsula, that is, there are guard boats and patrols and guard equipment , combat swimmers and guardsmen. that is, it turns out that if this were from the military, well, i would conditionally stand behind it the undermining of this would be precisely the clarification of the relationship not entirely by the fsb, but by the rostsgvarda. it seems to me that it was caused by this. it is still unknown to the end what happened there, uh, that putin uh-uh entrusted the fsb uh-uh now to guard the bridge in this same day now i want us to pay attention finally because i don't have a clear answer to it, well, for that amount of information p. mykola, well, you know that we can't give 100% or even 90%, in some version, what we need to pay attention to, it's necessary to pay attention to the fact that the commission created by putin, well, the government there, yes, on behalf of

putin, and this commission is currently working. now it is just the type to draw conclusions that this and each of the law enforcement agencies will now go there. the military, the military police were also seen there, that is, each of them collects materials so as not to implicate themselves and vaporize the commission's opinion in order to give the bandwagon to someone else, because now they will look for who is guilty and who is guilty . there is some kind of driver or owner of the truck and it is supposedly a watchman, a grandmother or a grandfather, a watchman. but i didn't take care of the intrans, the culprit is there. it's a truck. it's definitely not a truck, i'm almost 100% sure of that. therefore, of course, we are smaller, i would prefer a smaller version or i would give it less probability because it

is still the russians fighting each other. although i would not reject it completely, and uh, there is another version, precisely according to the technique, that it could be there, conditionally, autonomous underwater vehicles too it is not yet clear how they got to that high railway bridge and moreover, the so -called this and that which explodes quickly can crush reinforced concrete and other structures that were used. that is, this is all the research on this , everything is washed away, the analysis of the substance and the analysis of the spread simulation of the waves of the corresponding explosives and somewhere after that you can give the appropriate estimates, moreover, i want to tell you that how the bridge was guarded, uh, it was stopped by the military from airstrikes, there were 400 eyes standing there, praised there, then there were

planes supposedly there, that is, a military unit behind the military a the anti-terrorist guard may be talking now. well, of course, the fsb is always there somewhere . well, now there will be people who go, rockets, not rockets, that’s it. it seems to me that this is already under the rug. there is one more thing. question thank you for the first look, but here's what i understood about putin for these 20 years with someone or something , that he studies well and when he saw yeltsin's freedom of speech and what this freedom of speech leads to, he immediately began to fight specifically for ntv and freedom is evil, now we can dream. i'm not even saying to give up, but to dream about some second attack, have the russians prepared by now, have

they put some equipment around to check these trucks or not trucks that you can't hit from the sky with a missile, you can't get submarines the boats did not come out, well, in short, they now happened so that this reliable reliable connection between crimea and russia will now be forever because they have already received a demonstration of such a performance, it is not known who, but it is demonstrative that it can be penetrated by this security ugh well, if in the same way it seems to me well, if it were to be determined, it would be difficult. and in another way, i think that we will come to the point that we will have means that will be able to strike in a different way. that is, by the way, a whole series of them , starting with the means of missile weapons

although it is difficult. we all understand how difficult it is. there are such structures in the supports there, for example, there may be above-water, controlled, drones, so-called, they may be underwater , that is, i think that this risk is not reduced to zero now that is, the risk for russia of losing this bridge remains, it just becomes a little higher. well, let's say a little lower, but it remains, it does not disappear . resources to this object, what could be done there, i know that there is no separate front closed. therefore, it is positive, even in this context, what you said is positive. let them be distracted by the bridge.

walk around the bridge with your three lines. therefore, i think that this is also the goal now. imagine what repressive mechanism will now be used around all those who work on and on around the bridge, yes, this means that fewer fsb officers will terrorize the population in the kherson region this means that there will be fewer of them in the zaporizhzhia region, that is, now all efforts will be thrown at that bridge and at the same objects, and it is not the only one in russia. it is not the only panenko of such vulnerable objects. this is a demonstration of the cities, now i have to let them know how something happened, let's all be in the stadium, let's all the stadiums check the ladders on the bridge. i'm convinced that both across the amur and across the yenisei. now the bridges there will be guarded there , so i think that this lena is their effort too

a positive moment for ukraine well, i also read some foreigners. by the way, this is so as a joke that some esthete planned it because the sun appears, the beauty is so beautiful, and here is the bridge and here it burns, adding to the sun, in short, they say that it is a very aesthetic sight i think that this is brave - it speaks well of the ukrainian special services, where, in addition to narrow specialists, there are also specialists in aesthetics. of mass information, work it out not at the end of the day, not when it can come to nothing. and when you can work all day fruitfully in

order to spread all the information and different versions, throw away what's more. imagine, mykola, russian society, what is happening to it, they see versions first cargo and then not a truck, then the ukrainians already said that it was already, as it were, the influx of the british sas, the rockets , then the bombers, so in russian society , the average russian appears question so what was it that we have everything so bad that you allow a whole series of versions that this and that could have been and that and that and that and what won't they do what is that same that is, it's like in david and goliath at first e- he took a parasite. what did he hit the goliath with? little david cut off his head and showed it to the enemy troops. that is, the first was a military operation, and

the second was already an information operation. thank you, vadim, chernosh, very useful from my point of view. view this information the minister of ukraine for of the temporarily occupied territories of internally displaced persons from 16 to 19 years old, thank you once again mr. vadim and now we are here i hope i am already yuriy kasyanov the commander of the drone unit of the intelligence of the armed forces of ukraine and if i see him yes good health mr. yuriy it is nice to see you and develops and produces drones and how is it, mr. yury? you managed to develop and produce and how difficult it is and how possible and how useful it is. tell us about yourself and what surrounds you. well, what can you tell us? for some reason, i think that a drone is intelligence to a certain extent, well, it is very useful. we deal with

drones , me and my team. somewhere before the 17th and 18th years, then on friday it became quiet. with comical drones, and then when the war started, in fact, a private team, together with me , began to fight with me in order to correct the fire in order to find the enemy, that is, it is easy to scout for this purpose, in particular, in the western direction from kyiv

along the zhytomyr highway they burned a lot of braga equipment. well, not we, the artillery with our help. then we sent the armed forces of ukraine into service and it turned out that we did not have enough attack drones. we remembered and started making attack drones. in order to apply yuriy, look at this story, theoretically at least well, it is possible to imagine that these drones are square eyes, this is everything, everything that flies, at least what flies, i know that there are drones, what floats, what floats under water, like us just talked with mr. vadimchynosh that they can one day, or maybe closer, let's say, protect ukrainian cities from any rockets getting there and so on and so

on. we all remember that during the second world war, such huge people were simply hanged i remember how they call zeppelins there and they didn't let enemy planes fly, by god, it's possible to create such a thing, there's no way that it's just unfolding there, kyiv, lviv, kharkiv, uh, zaporizhzhia, like no, it was terrible, uh, the strikes by mykolaiv, odesa, well, less with that, and it does not give the opportunity to reduce the possibility of enemy missiles getting there, well, there is one, in fact, it is simply called differently because the automatic missile pgu o is essentially the same drone only with rocket or jet engines therefore, of course, drones can fight with drones, and it is actively fighting, but here you need to understand two things that there are

drones or missiles or large obstacles that you mentioned. against air defense i think that they are thinking about it and there are some developments there, and my task of my team is somewhat different, we are in order to destroy the means of defeating the enemy, that is, the same thing, drones, the same thing martyrs or cruise missiles or iskanders are still at the stage when they are based in accidents in cities, this also ensures the safety of our cities , that is, these are different tasks for which different technical means are used, different drones or rockets. well, all this is for the benefit of the country . in the future,

this danger can be overcome, you just see, we notice that the iranian means, which russia bought, they work quite actively in ukraine. the use or impact of these scooters , what do they call them? it buzzes there quite loudly. you can think of something here. well, it was invented a long, long time ago. in fact, these drones and pedestrians are small-sized, low-flying and low-speed aircraft aimed at such purposes learned to fight for another year during the first world war and actively fought during the second world war , the development of aviation simply went along the path of high speeds to extremes and high altitudes and in order to shoot down planes from modern we needed anti-aircraft missiles that have

high speeds and a long range . flight, but for these drones, they are not quite suitable because, uh , since they have a small size, uh, modern locators are aimed at seeing large planes, they don't see well from due to the fact that they see low, again, the hunters see poorly and, accordingly, detect the relics late. the solution is that it was perverted in the years of the first and second world wars - it is an anti-aircraft weapon, a rapid-fire anti-aircraft machine gun , it is a searchlight to illuminate the prices at night, it is a-a all kinds of devices to listen to the sky, there were even exotic britains , huge structures were built with the help of which the sounds were amplified, the observer could hear from afar

how the plane was flying our volunteers or military personnel would stand there , listen to the sky and understand that these drones are flying , so that the means against your air defense are already machine guns, they deployed in time, the projitora turned on in time , and we could shoot down such targets, this is not a difficult target if you have it even with the help ah, the equipment of an airplane or a helicopter is equipped with a machine-gun installation, this is all known for a long time, it’s just eh, as always, we don’t know about it. four of them warned that russia is preparing to buy or has already bought this kind of wire, eh, these kinds of drones, they look at their prostate. well, they are not

very effective. many of us have proposed projects of this kind before the ministry of defense. well, not only my team and other teams, too, a long, long time ago, but from his prostate, apparently, the ministry of defense has a mafia of such projects. a simple sub -pilot is very cheap a simple engine er gps navigation or another satellite navigation and a bomb and a fuel supply and explode and everything there is to do mastirovan when 10-20-30 drones go to the target due to the fact that these are manned raids to the difficulty well , again, this is all known from uh, world war ii, uh, the nazi reich in the 44th year used uh drone and actually cruise missiles vau-1 eto

also a drone in order to bombard the territory of great britain, they launched thousands of such drones that caused serious damage to great britain, london or liverpool and other cities, so nothing, but he no, you just need to remember the history, you need to spare your brains a little and all these decisions to destroy these drones or to create similar types of weapons, they are very inexpensive, in principle, a drone of this kind can cost eh 100. how much does a modern artillery projectile cost? hummingbird 152 155 mm, well, 4-5,000 dollars, it ’s not expensive at all, but the effect of it saves a lot more, and it’s possible to fix it there, i don’t know in six months, it’s obvious that now if we start today, if we haven’t started yet, then we need to have a factory somewhere in the west of ukraine, this factory is hidden. when

assembling, you need to have the logistics of people , specialists, engineers, designers, etc. , workers, workers, workers, workers, workers. the team has deployed the production of this kind of drone, which we are not the only ones in the country, not the only ones. э мяже их применяем е-е in general, so the state we got only a machine gun, well, this is always the ukrainian state. it is the same and the last part of my question to you, but it is very important, and i so i saw that you will understand well, well, 157

times better than me, but from your words it appears that future wars, god forbid that anyone should endure them and survive them at all, can be free without people, because now there are already somewhere someone will come up with some artificial soldiers, what kind of machine on a machine gun, a person is sitting somewhere in the shelter and there is a joystick controlling it there , she is shooting at planes that cannot be seen, yes, drones, underwater, surface flying, and as a result, it will somehow look like two staffs are sitting, pressing buttons, and something is flying there and if one flew better, flew better than the other, then the soldiers simply enter, probably almost without firing, occupy this territory

, this is possible, this is such a fantasy, fan -military fantasy, maybe someday such a situation exists already today, and let's say the army - the development of the army of rich countries there , the united states, and great britain, israel, they are actively changing drones in all environments, both air , land and surface, underwater, and achieve success when the soldiers really have to participate in some kind of contact battles, they still die, but do not forget that the war is waged primarily in order to destroy operatives the destroyer of the infrastructure will destroy the enemy, make life in these territories impossible to take out, force the enemy to lay down their weapons, and therefore any war of this kind if two sides and two systems

that have this kind of drones clash with the drones of their army, then in any case they will try to kill those same operators those who control the same headquarters will destroy those who control it because the person was the target and it remains that way or the drone itself cannot be the target the goal is not interesting eh every war is waged in order to destroy the enemy destroy its infrastructure and we will wait for it to surrender we thank yuri kasyanov to the commander of the intelligence drone units of the armed forces of ukraine, which develops and produces drones, and it is quite nice that there are such people today, what an enlightening as you noticed, the program told us how this bridge also exploded and now we we know about drones and now i will say goodbye to you for 3 minutes