what no one has ever endured in his life is when putin in general er scares us with nuclear weapons. i think he also does not even realize how serious this injury is, it is not at all what we think it is not just like that, believe me i remember the psychological state of being in hiroshima when you shouldn't just be sitting in a coffee shop drinking a cappuccino, eating some delicious food in a japanese restaurant and suddenly you don't feel happy because this understanding is pressing on you anyway well, we now have what in there are many such places in ukraine. it seems to me that the scale of this question is not even comparable. you just understand that you are facing such moments of mass casualties. any missile is the usual bombardment of dresden, kovel, or mariupol. these are similar things, but they are not instantaneous . in hiroshima, you encounter a instantaneous one. the death

of thousands of people atomic bombing - this is not an ordinary missile discussion precisely from the point of view of this instant death and i just mean that i understand the psychology of haizumi but i believe that japan sooner or later will be forced to return to this whole story for the simple reason that they are playing this game with japan, you see the dprk is putin's ally, this is how he even congratulated him on his 70th birthday in putin did together with sidzempin everything is possible to enable this dictator to get nuclear weapons this is very bad this obviously threatens the national security of japan who said that the elements of nuclear weapons should not now be in japan or in south korea why democracies of countries with such equal technological development of countries which they open up new perspectives, but we understand that many things in our world generally work like this, they work because the japanese worked on this port, they should be afraid of disappearing because

some idiots live nearby. this putin's i said diplomatically the catastrophe connected with the decision of our president so let's move on to the next topic that zaporizhzhia - regarding the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant of our e putin ordered to appropriate it in essence but to vitaly what is this changes, because we know that despite the threats that exist there, they are constantly under fire . without our workers, the russians cannot cope with this power plant. because our experts assure that the plant is already built according to new technologies, there are no analogues in russia, therefore, without us, they will not cope, and they say it is our employees , despite the fact that they went to the machines, they can in a certain way control the situation there. it is obvious. yes, i do not

agree with this. well, if they, well, look at how many there were exactly, but only 4,000 employees remained, there was a moment when they released it from the energy donation. now, if they continue to release it, in principle , there will be no one left there. are they so many of these employees, well, responsible people that they will be until end to stay there despite the pressure. i think that the question is that many people can stay there because i will not lower it from there. second , they can start their own. can you cause an accident like in chernobyl easily because you now you do you see in general the level of their competence of this great technological power? well, i don’t know what to do with rosatom. no, please stop. people who don’t live there don’t even imagine the level of general backwardness. well, i won’t say

that the city of moscow is backward in general. but you can’t the city of moscow, close all the holes accordingly, education, t personnel, foreigners, how to sleep. yes , some people with a good western education, now all these people are fleeing here and there like hares, but they have always been there. but again, when it comes to what do we need? here's a tour of a nuclear power plant. send someone there. send someone here . moscow simply doesn't have enough willing people, so i'm very afraid of professional staff. anyway, it's one moment, another moment - it's that they're angry now to try because they're obvious. i don't understand why but you see they live in their own world they expected the mission to wave that the mission of the store writes what they will like, but they let it in, thanks, well, many places didn’t do that, so i don’t know what the general can achieve now director megate because it is not like that when he will go to

moscow well, what are they mocking him, do you remember how they mocked everyone, but borel came to them when he was still trying to negotiate with them on the eve of the war and they openly mocked him, he obviously did not expect this i was expecting some kind of dialogue, as he is used to diplomatic conversations, we think so, you think so, we can offer you this here . i leaned like this, i think the same thing, now everyone is writing that the money is going to moscow directly, some signals from the united states of america, some warnings to putin, if he warned putin that the united states if putin raises russian planes with nuclear weapons into the sky and raises his planes, then he can achieve success, but i'm not sure that he has such signals in case, so in this misunderstanding, uh, in

any case, any person who carries a hard signal in a suitcase to putin, let him get to moscow, i'm not against it. clearly, in general, our expectations regarding this organization because when the first report was released, let's say it was not open, but just the conclusions, you remember we were somehow generally not satisfied now. after all, they admit that this is a ukrainian nuclear power plant and they supposedly support ukraine, but they go to talk to the russians it is normal for us to perceive it. i think that we even received more than we wanted because when the mission was a coin, we were going to see what representatives of countries are there, certain representatives of countries who obviously sympathize with russia, the russians will show you what they want. they won't talk about russian military participation because they can't. they said everything. there was no presence of experts from serbia or the people's republic of china. they didn't change these accents, and i say that's why the russians were angry, and it seems to me that the universities.

no, we didn't. understand in principle how large international organizations work, citizenship is irrelevant , you have a united nations passport in your pocket, this is a guarantee of your reputation and your future, by and large the future no longer depends on the future of the government of your country, which is why it will always remain in china. but you, as a chinese expert, can, as you know , go between the dots. and in other countries, in principle, it does not depend because it is a long term, this is this passport, if you tarnish your reputation, you are without you will stay with all of this and get to a completely different level of reputational and any other existence in general, and if you simply remain true to your reputation, well, you can say that you have a life of a person who will simply live his profession and use it with some mission in - you know what you were and

the general secretaries of the un are nobel-winning to trust dahammer quickly, this is the kind of work that , despite the fact that we have claims to the un itself, gives people the opportunity to present certain ideas to protect the values ​​of the current secretary general, as you can see, they behave quite harshly in relation to russia. he does not seek some possibilities of justifying aggression, he is also there. of course, they already hate him, and it is obvious that when a new general secretary is elected, they will look for someone who will behave differently but then again, when a person finds himself in this position, he is already angry at the one who supported him, re-elected and you need a reputation. keep it because it is no longer for those generals tarot, they will always live with this title and you will always say oh, you were at such trade winds a how could you support such scoundrels as you, you are not ashamed, you will not be invited to give lectures, you will not go anywhere, you will simply be a bigot after resignation. and you can be a person with a world reputation. why should you think about putin

like this ? it is with the general director of the megatheater that you understand that all these people, unlike putin, do not sit in their positions forever, but these positions are reputable, let's say so, correct, moral , professional behavior in such and such positions is the guarantee of the entire future for these people, and this is the value by the way electoral democracy people do not want to risk their future for scum and for them reputation is even more important than their own opinion. they just think how they will look now tomorrow in the eyes. i am my co-workers in the family. well, as a voter , that's a whole problem, mr. vitaly. what do you think, why do the russians keep shelling energodar ? is it some kind of weakness or are they blackmailing in this way

about stupidity? we just remember how they were near chernobyl, they didn't understand that they were infected with radiation and so on, then they went there , relatively speaking, and became enlightened in hospitals. i think that they it is very necessary to create in this region a situation related to terror, terror that somehow must be felt by the population plus blackmail from the west. putin generally trades in fear as such, this is his main profession, in principle, this is the main profession for any investigative committee of the state security of the soviet union or the fsb, if you get to their office for questioning, what do they do, they don't talk to you, they intimidate you ? information and please sign here sign please here's what to do show us what we need here's what's

written for you read look at the camera well, putin just does it on a global scale well , he has the zaporizhzhya npp, so you think it's just when he fires at energodar - it's roughly like the investigator begins to beat you on the hands with some kind of electric shocker, you are not surprised by this meeting or the kgb, i am doing this, you understand his logic, we are you why are you doing this why can't we talk because i don't want you to talk i want to come here and confess that that you killed your grandmother in 1875 and that there was no grandmother and you in 1875, they are not included. here is the text. here is the signature. this is also exactly how we can bring it back under our control, because it is a danger not only for ukraine, for all of europe, this is the most power plant in europe i think that in the current situation in ukraine's war with russia, the only possibility to return control of the zaporizhzhia hydroelectric power station is the liberation of the zaporizhzhia region from the invaders.

zone now in order to later force the occupying forces to withdraw from there, and that is why i think that when the director general of megate talks about the demilitarization of this zone, it is precisely in our interests, because our troops are not stationed there, the russians said they should leave there, even if international forces are stationed there. i think that russia will not agree to this, but under what conditions will it agree, no matter what, we will surround them now, russian territory according to their constitutional norms or not. by the way, we do not know which borders zaporizhia is attached to the area is definitely energodar. you have to ask the sand. they are being released all the time and their territory is getting smaller. what do we want to consult with the population? this means that when the population is already released, they will be able to consult. while it is controlled by us, they are not controlled. i think that in the situation that developed is really important yes, there may be an encirclement of energodar, there may be an exit of the

russian military contingent, this is also important , uh, the situation when people are received, who are there , the green corridor, in order to leave the as zone i.e. there may be different solutions. but this is a question for the ukrainian military team. they do not believe in any negotiation results of conversations with vladimir putin. you understand, in general, this is a dead end. angelika, think about the seizure of territory , including energy. this is the only thing that putin can do now. to show the russian population that we have won . but at the same time, this closes any possibility for negotiations with ukraine, even with the western allies of ukraine, because you say, listen, what does that mean, we will talk with you about what about which there are ukrainian guarantees about some kind of neutrality , what is there to talk about when you simply annexed four ukrainian regions for yourself in a completely illegal way, without even trying to create at least the picture of which i am creating in crimea, on the other hand, russia is not interested in the continuation

of hostilities, obviously, because it may lose these territories in order to stop hostilities, it is necessary to withdraw troops, no withdrawal of troops is a loss of territory, in order to stop hostilities and freeze the conflict, negotiations are needed, but you can't negotiate, why? because they don't want to withdraw the troops from there, they want to leave it behind. by the way, they're already saying that we're ready for negotiations. our normal negotiations about anything can only take place after the situation when all russian troops withdraw from all territories captured after 2014 , including crimea and the occupied territories of the donetsk luhansk regions, of course they can they can take their mercenaries with them, they can take people who sympathize with the russian measure, these people do not have and will not have a place on ukrainian soil, and they should know about it, but one way or another, all

citizens living in the territories of these regions are hostages of the russian federation. by the way, they consider even hostages those people who have political views that are different from ours, who like russia and putin - it does n't matter what they like, you know, if they didn't commit any actions related to with a violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine. every person has the right to his political position . let him go to the elections and vote for some party of peace and progress."

but i believe that people are people, even pro-russian oppositions are still hostages of russia because russia would bring them home, misery and mountains and war, they lived and lived and with their views, which we can consider idiotic, went to work, raised their children, and here suddenly in principles each of these people could die tomorrow along with their families simply because they do we didn't want putin, we didn't prevent this person from going to the elections and voting for five regional parties, she died voting for yanukovych in her bed, and now she can die in a terrible state from shelling from war and military actions, this person does not deserve it any person, no matter how idiotic his political views are, does not deserve to die from the war p . vitaly by the way, for 8 years at the beginning of the war in donbas and russian aggression, we talked about the reintegration of these territories, but now it seems to me it is already approaching, this is reintegration, because thank god our armed forces are having success in the

east, including if we talk about reintegration , you have already begun to answer this question . directly participated in the murders there and so on, those who had to answer and what to do with others to forgive what to do and how to determine where the political views border do not consist of uh persecution but in germany, let's say, after its liberation from the nazis, there was the denazification program, which was based on the introduction of a huge number of citizens of germany at the time, were supporters of the national socialist dialogue of these people, unlike those who were direct members of the nsdr or the ss, we are even more of a session of these party members, no one condemned them, there were no

trials, etc. as if people who did not work in government structures were quietly working in supermarkets, small shops , bookstores in the field, or even were soldiers, ordinary verma, why should they be condemned, but they they talked about the crimes of the regimes, systematically took them to the constitutional camps on excursions so that they could see what those they supported had done, then the education system in germany was rebuilt and still has quite a lot of information about hitler's atrocities about the holocaust about the killing of roma about the killing of people from social sexual minorities and lgbt about murders of people with some kind of mental disorder, crime for crime, that's all. people saw that, in principle, this is a criminal organization. their

state may be liked by some, but they were in the minority. then they began to understand that they can't tell everyone that they like it. goodrunk gimler's daughter seems to be goodrunk gimler. she up to the last day, as i remember, maintained the memory of her father, but she was so lonely even among the members the bonz families of the nationalist workers' party of germany, most people understand that they will not be able to survive in the new era if they are supporters of evil. i think that in the occupied territories, it will be necessary to carry out the wrong thing in order not to blame the people that they lived in the occupation and just carry out a real system program of 12fication of the territory, that is, clear history courses in schools, stories about the thieving actions of the communist regime, stories about the thieving actions of the putin regime, people should visit the concentration camp, isolation in donetsk, you just need to take

students, schoolchildren and just people there from enterprises, this should be a program, people should make sure that the regime that was established in russia in 2000, which was brought by russian troops in 2014 on our territory the nazi regime and the only possible reaction of a person in a normal society can be condemnation and disgust of such a regime, and it goes to everyone who this regime justifies in principle the views of nazism propaganda and then - this name should be persecuted in any civilized society, we banned communist the party of ukraine will say that because it is a totalitarian ideology , all organizations that would call for some normal positive positions in relation to the putin regime, putinism and all, should be banned what is connected with it should be outlawed in ukraine and in the occupied territories there should be a special program that will help people to get out of

this cocoon of at least a tolerant, at least a neutral attitude towards putinism and this should be absolutely clear i don't say well there is such a chance because that they support en masse even now the collapse of the russian state will be the start of such a struggle, of course after the collapse of the russian state, there will also be a need to completely change all educational programs, put solovyov kiselyov on the dock, margarita simonyan skabeeva and her husband what is her last name? holes, all this, all this stench, take it absolutely seriously. you told me about the

reform of the mass media, the return to public broadcasting in russia, there is no public broadcasting and no real private television i assure you that as soon as it starts working, it will completely change all the laws of the current situation , even the political one on the market. understand why this is an important moment, why boris yeltsin, the former portrait, did not ban political parties in russia, did not destroy the relatively free press, it happened calmly to his opponents, he was an active politician, he went from being a candidate to a member of the front office to become the president of a democratic state, he believed that if someone wrote something about him, he would go on stage and defeat everyone, ugu would simply come out and say well, we saw it. it was like that many times. everyone

thought everything was a white man, but it was already over and he was leaving. he appealed to people and everything, and at the same time he could have strong competitors and even he did not win the presidential election. he was not afraid of it, he was ready to fight it with his teeth. imagine that putin. someone will tell you, you will end up with some non-important nemtsov kasyan and you will simply soak them, we know that this is not the case, he can win only when there is no one or if there is some dima medvedev running in front of him around him, as you know, like spins and everything, that is, if there is no competition, then i will ban the real position, i will destroy free television, then the press , then the internet, then, uh, all even semi-oppositional parties will force me to kiss my boot, then i completely purged any attempts to conflict with me on the level there

are even local authorities, and then when i see that even this does not help, i will start a war. this is the logical development of an authoritarian society when a person has no one's name, but vladimir putin it is precisely from such people that he is absolutely nothing, he is simply nothing, he usually destroys all opportunities for competition, then everyone starts oh, this is a serious politician. in the first years, it was still possible. perhaps at the event, what i said, can he cut off your genitals? he is the question, yes, that is, if a person talks to you with such arguments because there are no others, do i remember that he was asked about personal life once there was an italian journalist he was walking with berlusconi about kabaev and he started to threaten and i, this is not even a political issue

, has no arguments of any kind, hopli, i will cut you off in time, all this language, the language of a bandit yes, yes, that's why and that's why, of course, russians - first of all, the bandits of his entire entourage must be freed without this. and they themselves must be freed, freed, not without considering the price of such a release. it may be high , bloody, but it is necessary to be freed, it is not us, we have to free them, we have to free ourselves, we absolutely not we have for the russians to fulfill their task. thank you for the comprehensive answer on this topic. vitaliy, let's talk about the eighth package of sanctions that the european union introduced against the russian federation. and zaporizhia oblasts now because russia annexed them and they are also aimed at key

decision-makers, oligarchs , high-ranking military and propagandists responsible for undermining territorial integrity ukraine in particular concerns export restrictions in order to reduce russia's access to military industrial and technological products, as well as its ability to develop its security sector. well, the most important thing is that we are worried about oil, while the eu ban on the import of russian marine oil remains in full force. prices that will soon be introduced will still allow the european emperor to carry out and support the transportation of russian oil to third countries , provided that its price remains below the pre- by the established limit, what does this mean in essence eh. as far as i understood, mr. vitaly, this is not a final ban, a complete ban on russian oil is incomplete , this embargo is only partial and, allegedly, as ukrainian representatives of the authorities say, it does not particularly affect russia. what do you think? i think that it is not

to especially influence russia also because there is a decision by opec plus and i believe that we can see with our own eyes how authoritarian regimes in principle build their world absolutely not paying attention to the point of view of democracy what happened this week it is important not so much for the meeting of the heads of the european union, at which this package of sanctions was approved. and here is the decision about which he had an accent . in fact, putin, prince mohammed, is laughing at the democratic world. calmly, he knows exactly what he is doing. he is a competent person. he just took part in it . the exchange of prisoners, he knows for sure that it gives putin the opportunity to earn a huge amount of money that putin needs and this money is more important for putin now than any sanctions packages and this is reality and reality includes more

because the west has actually driven itself into a dead end, i would say my own, i would say this for sure, very stifling illusions. i am absolutely not against it, i am only for an environmental program, but recently there was a study of the golden six, when the americans began to adopt all these environmental laws, this is very important did not stop the production of oil in america, but reduced investments in finding new fields , if these investments were continued, the united states today would be the second of saudi arabia, there would simply be no saudi arabia the united states was absolutely not interested in what prices were set by opec, plus they simply increased or decreased oil production at their own discretion, and prices fell or rose

solely from the point of view of the national interests of the united states and the democratic world in general . this did not happen because they decided that it was much better in to establish ecology and to buy oil in saudi arabia, which is worth a penny there, it can be manipulated because saudi arabia has other political interests because it is essentially an authoritarian country well, there is such a tradition minus listen, this is not a tradition, this is a monarchy that is built by force and on the money of its own dynasty, this is manifested. let's explain a little to the audience . what did the opec countries do? they reduced oil production in accordance with the growth of the stationary and, of course, it also increases for russia. why didn't you raise this border threshold? sanctions russia gets more money maybe now than it got there 24 years ago, it will be more

money than at first, the pandemic is a huge amount of money for the russian budget, the second moment - transferred to the republic of germany, which perfectly closed all nuclear power plants, is now forced to increase coal production, why did the germans do this, because it decided that it is better to buy cheap russian gas than to develop its coal industry, and even more so nuclear energy , which was opposed by modern greens only then not were a political force that was supposed to come to power. and now they are in power, now they see that they have made fools of themselves, but then all the traditional parties will intercept this agenda from them they closed everything that could be closed so that the ratings of the greens did not increase because people supported this program madly, but they supported it, now it says, oh my god, will an atomic bomb fall on us too? well, it might fall , but who is to blame? these are wonderful