it is the leader in negotiation efforts, it is our state that has always offered russia to agree on coexistence on equal, honest, dignified and fair terms. it is obvious that this is impossible with this russian president. he does not know what dignity and honesty are, so we are ready for a dialogue with russia, but already with another president of russia mr. valentin, look. there is still a month to go. even a little more. and what can change in our position and under what circumstances can these negotiations with putin still take place? is there anything that happened today? can change our position, well, i practically rule it out , that is, it is clear that something extraordinary can happen, right? when we make forecasts, we usually make such an assumption in order to preserve the existing

trends. well, if some factor appears that can change the existing trends, it is clear that then all our prognostic activity simply collapses and now you suggest that i outline the factors that could hypothetically appear well, of course, i have a lot of imagination i can fantasize there, but the probability of the occurrence of such factors is sufficiently low. well, today it boils down to a very simple and banal fact. if you want a position, now the armed forces of ukraine are leading the negotiation process, and depending on what the results of this negotiation process will be, the parties will come up with some negotiating positions so that the armed forces well, not only the armed forces of ukraine. this is a collective. i say yes, that is, first of all, the armed forces of ukraine. it is clear that this is also the entire target blocker of the security service and law enforcement bodies well, because they also carry out certain er tasks and when collaborators are exposed there and

russian gentrification networks. that is, this is all very important work and in this context it is clear that while the parties in this context of ukraine and the russian federation retain er confidence or er i believe that by military means they can strengthen their negotiated positions, well, it will go on until then. well, but the next aspect here is that the russian federation seems to me to be increasingly aware that by military means, well, using conventional types of weapons, but they are unlikely to be able to break the course of this war. well, from the outside, we can see how they are changing their strategy. well, they are, by and large , not changing, because everything they use now, they used before, but if they used it before, it's like i'll add so now it seems that er is becoming their main yes er tasks that they are carrying out i mean strikes on civilian objects i mean

attempts to destroy critical infrastructure well i mean absolutely terrorist medinya wars and by intimidation well, just society and the public from our side. well, not that we are inclined, but various leaders of different states and even our friends and partners like turkey are actively proposing to victory because it means a war for everyone and everything. well, and so on, on the one hand, there must be negotiations, on the other hand , with putin's perambulation, we are not leading, then in your opinion, with whom we have or can negotiate with representatives of the russian federation and this is what they are talking about. practically everyone in putin's entourage, let's remember the words at the interim meeting, diplomatic matvienko and lavrova, and piskova and all the other talking heads in putin's entourage are talking

about the negotiations, but we are not satisfied with their terms, then who are we with we can talk about the series of negotiations with the russian federation. when they talk about putin , they do not mean that putin personally is talking about the current political regime in the russian federation, the problem is that none of the other of political subjects that exist in the russian federation even if we assume that they are, yes, that these are all neutered cats and that they function there, they do not have any level of legitimacy and legality, that is, on behalf of the russian federation , whether we like it or not, only putin's political regime can speak there is nothing to talk about with putin's political regime, in principle , because it is a criminal terrorist regime. by the way, i tend to think that more and more states in the world will mature to awareness of the need to recognize the current russian federation as a state not just as a sponsor of terrorism but as a terrorist state, because the current russian federation is al-qaeda or the islamic state yes, only with

nuclear weapons and many other things, but in its own way, both in terms of its ideological basis and in terms of its position and in terms of its practices, the current russian federation is in no way different from al- qaeda or from such a state, well, that is, what can you talk about with them? do you think that if olka had nuclear weapons, then they were functioning do you think that if the islamic state would continue to exist, i don't know if some of them would be, but then they reconciled with them and said, ok, let them exist and continue to expand throughout the world, no, i think they would stop even sooner such an expansion is therefore a conclusion, in fact, behind all the rhetoric is the recognition of one simple fact, until the political regime changes in the russian federation, this war will continue whether someone likes it or not, that is, this war must end with the fall of putin the regime, or the fall of the entire civilized world.

yes, when the fall of ukraine, the fall of europe, the fall of nato, the fall of the current world order, it seems to me that a few small clarifications, then we all know that the fall of the regime for putin, his clarification in the environment, is commensurate with the fall of russia, as such, they associate themselves with russia, and therefore their security doctrine can come into play here, with all the other consequences, don't you think then that this whole story is somewhat, well , heading towards some kind of dead end that we will face later our partners the united states will bring to the attention of our partners the united states. well, there is. well, actually, when you say this , in fact, i would say a one-dimensional coordinate system is made up, it is much more, er, multi- dimensional. things because today the federal republic of germany is one of the leading countries in the world, but it is not hitler's third reich, and it must be

understood that the current federal ball of germany owes its success precisely to the fall hitler's nazi regime well, it turns out that the political regime can have one future or no future, and the state and the people can have a different future, so the fall of putin's regime, i tend to think for russia and for many peoples of russia, can open much better prospects than now, because the current regime is repressive in relation to, well, it is a prison of peoples. yes, nothing changes there, and in relation to its own subjects. well, because this repressive regime, that is there are no rights of civil or political liberties, nothing. this is one moment. the second moment is when they talk about the fact that supposedly if there is a nuclear bomb , everything will fall in front of you. er, then the united states of america lost in afghanistan, well, conditionally, yes, that is, if it is not entirely

appropriate, the truth and not quite so, it is a complete parallel. but nevertheless, the soviet union had nuclear weapons. yes, and not only nuclear, it did not prevent he should disappear. well, where is the soviet union? well , that’s why it can also disappear. another nuclear state is not a problem, so when they talk about the fact that there are nuclear weapons, that’s all. well, it’s not so. of course, they will try to avoid all these risks as much as possible, and maybe be a very complicated process, but if the russians think that they will achieve their political goals simply by threatening them with nuclear weapons, then they are deeply mistaken , they can simply postpone the solution to this problem for a certain time, but strategically this regime, which has equated itself with the islamic state of zalkayeda, is doomed . let us now add to our conversation

oleksandr levchenko. and e-e p oleksandr, in your opinion. we all agree with the opinion of valentin glykh that the best diplomacy for ukraine now is the success of the armed forces of ukraine, but as a diplomat, do you see the possibility of dialogue in the diplomatic plane between ukraine and russia and at what level is the current time that has really developed, well, conditionally, lagro is close to putin, so to speak, and he is a translator of these ideas, although his influence , unlike the security forces, is probably a little less, mmm, just more of a public person, it turns out that his influence on the processes in the kremlin, they are much smaller. and

er, depending on this, russian diplomacy itself can somehow influence the correction of the kremlin . probably not on the contrary. arena and are trying to quickly and efficiently, this is from the beginning of the war, to convey the kremlin's message to international changes, for a while they succeeded, so far , the attitude of the europeans towards everything russian and more time, under the circumstances, the war can be ended even with a treaty and someone from the entourage anyone else who is not surrounded by putin. i absolutely agree with the position that we will talk about long ago, because the main negotiator now is the armed forces of ukraine,

which influence what the final decisions will be regarding the end of the war, the more success in our the armed forces will be all the better for our checkable position, but the question arises if we cannot reach a solution with someone, so it turns out that we will have positive actions of the armed forces, and then we have to move on to a political solution after these positive ones. that's why i'm talking about this option, if she will somehow stay there, although it will be difficult for them, i take all this oil 27 20 actually they did not brew this porridge here, they actually introduced everything russian into the novel society because this war is needed by russia and so on, this is also a very unlikely option, but i do not

rule out that it is possible somewhere, we can and will, er, conclude all this with the latest agreements with the entourage and what not with the heads of the kremlin. will he himself be obvious? probably not. and someone from his entourage, believe me, is no better than putin himself, and if someone surrounded by shrinking becomes, and continues to be, so to speak, a bootleider, the new leader of russia, then you also know that this does not bring anything good for ukraine. and not only for ukraine for europe and the world, that's why my vision and those soldiers who were in the balkans in the 1990s means that secret meetings

must take place. one side offers the other and it is acceptable somewhere, yes, for one other side, then it is possible to enter into open diplomatic negotiations, while this is all very far from the negotiation stage, so this is an opportunity, there must be some contact, it is obvious that it is not happening at at a very high level in view of this confrontation and the escalation of all these actions, but it has to happen and under certain circumstances the situation can change radically, i want to tell you how the first world war ended. germany signed the capitulation, occupying a large part of

france, belgium, and part of the netherlands i.e. still, it seems, well, it didn’t have such a terrible strategic position, then something changed and despite the fact that the enemy even, that is, their enemy, the entente and so on, the united states of america did not crossed the german border, berlin signed the capitulation, does not rule out some events that can force something to dissipate, to take some action, understanding that they will not win the war, but this is a factor of the fact that it is a nuclear state and ignorant people, so to speak are in power and on the day of the international day of mental health in the world it was yesterday, that means the kremlin, who are apparently

very mentally ill, but just now they dared to do this very hmm dangerous actions that are characterized as a war crime therefore, everything here can change a little sometimes rather, sometimes in some dynamics, negotiations, contacts , not negotiations, or so, contacts should be chemical for the time being, because the level of mistrust is huge , the level of hatred is huge, but they should be at a certain moment. -he helped with valentine's day, he sums it up, but you know how i reformat the discourse a little bit. negotiations are ongoing about this. the united states has repeatedly

said that messages are delivered at different levels, but let's face it, turkey has long taken a position of such an active negotiator, the other day there was a statement by the head of turkish diplomacy or o štoğlu, who noted that they worked out a number of points there regarding the negotiating positions of parties a-a, and in this part , in your opinion, can it be, say, the turkish side, erdogan, directly, anyone, china, for example, cdpin, not only a negotiating party, but the personification of certain security guarantees to which both zelensky and putin listen, or collective putin as a representative of the russian federation, i’m afraid not because, well, even if we read it as the kyiv security compact well then it says that there is a defined k- a wider circle of possible guarantees of the territorial integrity of state sovereignty. well, moreover , euro-atlantic integration is written in our constitution, and well, that is, to

be honest, i simply do not understand these fantasies. well, mr. levchenko, who worked in the balkans, he much better than i can tell you how many different plans were produced regarding kosovo and bosnia and how difficult it all was moving and somewhere in some places it still hasn't moved anywhere, that is, such very intermediate and situational ones solutions have been achieved if we remember such a beautiful territory as kashmir, for example, yes. that is , there are a lot of fantasies and the british traveled there, the americans invented ways to solve this conflict, well, they can do it, or the pursuit of peace, this is a normal intention, definitely weapons, you understand that the situation is more complicated there, such as weapons and the same goes for china. well, what about that? well, that is, it’s just fuck-me. therefore, about the security guarantee. i asked, from

the point of view of our security, which negotiations with the support of which mediation, whom we can go to and who to trust today we have already been guaranteed by the budapest coast there is just a shield, these are completely different things, no, you said about kashmir, i am talking about that country, which nuclear weapons, weapons of deterrence, listen, weapons of deterrence, i will just say one more unpleasant thing now, it is a weapon of deterrence that guarantees that it guarantees defeat of course, defeat does not guarantee victory, it guarantees defeat , because in ukraine you support someone, you are restrained ukraine has enough resources to guarantee defeat, this is suicide, i will not even to articulate what i mean simply definitely but this guarantee of defeat is the same as any other nuclear uh uh uh uh flirting with these so let's be honest. to guarantee defeat and to act on the principle that there is no shortage of life for anyone, but i have a

country of terrorists . in short, it's either yes or not at all. but if you want to ask the question of the cut, well, in principle, i think that each of us has options, yes , everyone thought that the shaft, what did valik mean when he said this, i was in the 14th year therefore, it was necessary to realize that all these fantasy plans will be produced, and this is good, because it is possible that the quantity will one day turn into quality, but for today, i will repeat myself once again, there are no negotiations, no results with the current putin regime, it is simply impossible to contact definitely happens and most likely they are assigned or simply did not use the term not public i would use simply how to say it is much more complicated architecture and definitely the americans are in contact with a certain number of quite a large number of people in russia yes and a

large number of people in russia well i have on the attention of parts of the political elite is thinking about their future , should they follow their own vision? well, to cut short, what better way to look for some alternatives, try to get out and they won't be driven away, for now i will hold death, i told the swing yes, they are still opening up opportunities that if you do this, it is possible for you to avoid something there, the same thing is happening with belarus, by the way , enough is enough. to leave the presumptuous people in russia, there are no democrats in russia, there is no idea, there are no mechanisms for ensuring political participation well, that is why we have a revolution there, and only a senseless, merciless riot is possible , that is, and then of course, as a result of this riot what structures should be formed? this is the same story

. why was the revolution of dignity and the orange revolution able to take place in ukraine, but not in belarus? well, because what are the other critical features that are described according to such a concept as the political landscape in the book? the political landscape is excellent. it is of no importance, because quantity does not translate into quality there, there is no political opposition, well, that is, this is the political position that exists, it does not have the necessary social support . that is, there is no mechanism for ensuring political participation, they are by and large not a political class, if we speak in the language of political theory, that is, i say, they are not even citizens in the full sense of the word, they have a poddersk political culture there, communication takes place in one direction from the government to the people, that is, when they talk about sociology in russia is funny to me, or what are the moods in russian society somewhere, don't worry about the moods in russian society, they can stuff their moods into one place, take them in their hands - these are rusty machines and go to the front like this well, let's sum up our conversation now. today, we will

remind you that there were talks about the personal talks between putin and volodymyr zelensky a few days after the full-scale invasion of the russians in ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table. zelensky personally called on putin through the media already on february 25 members of the ukrainian delegation were also supposed to talk about holding presidential talks at the negotiations with representatives of the aggressor country at the end of march, a member of the ukrainian delegation of the dvt arkhamia said that ukraine offered russia to hold a direct meeting, he emphasized that enough material had been developed for this after the release of buch and irpen and the discovery of large-scale war crimes, ukraine stopped negotiations with russia in all formats. it was already mentioned, and for the first time he did it even before the start of a full-scale invasion, namely , on february 16, the offer to help conduct direct

the negotiations were heard after february 24 and from other world leaders the last proposal made former us president donald trump for 5 minutes, literally, valentina , then ah-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a skip skap a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- abran discussed, we do not have anything to agree on, the armed forces of ukraine prove that we are capable of defending this negotiating position ourselves, but the question is, if we talk about this very political landscape, it has changed quite rapidly always and now we mentioned trump, we can mention the mid-term elections in the united states where the republicans where the democrats are already afraid that the republicans taking the upper hand in these mid-term elections may uh stimulate a decrease in aid to ukraine, for example, the same processes are taking place in europe or it is not a danger in

principle if you are guided by the same political changed political landscape here it is a threat, but its magnitude should not be overestimated well , because it is necessary to understand that it is not unanimous the position of the republicans announced by trump, he has more than that, this flight is not politics, it is even political technology, i.e., trump odesa, this is what ologists have shown, sociologists have shown some targeted electoral niches that you can rely on to position yourself in a certain space, and he will now start talking about that that it is not possible to reduce the aid to ukraine, this is not a popular thesis in the states, russian sentiments in the states have always been present since the days of the cold war, that is, you cannot turn a blind eye to it, and it is clear what to say now let's kiss with our gums, er, with putin's regime or the russians, it means killing ourselves in a coffin from the inside, it won't work either, that's why they will now spin the story that there is a threat that we will all

burn er from the fire of this nuclear war, and that's why we need to avoid it at all costs and because of the fear of trying to reach the sweat of american voters there , this will be the strategy, i tell you as a person who has an idea of ​​how political technology works and they will pump it, but you have to understand that and it will not work because there was a caribbean crisis. well, after all, the cold war the united states of america won, not the soviet union, you won’t take them lightly. and if donald trump has small texts when yes, roughly speaking , or frontal brain, in fact, because in the frontal part of the brain, this part of the brain is precisely the volitional sphere, and it did not run away like some he thinks, er, yes, er, it's his personal problem, but you have to understand that they won't go the other way around, just like europe won't go , that is, that they were scared now, if they were scary, now you would be dominated in the world not by the west, but by others the state and they did not frighten, thank you and

our president, and even more so putin, how useful can this summit actually be for us and what decisions can be key to the return of peace to ukraine. i think that the end of the war absolutely cannot affect the situation in ukraine. i saw a very different position of the members of these twenties, that is, regarding the situation in the corridor, they can state the situation, express the origin of christmas, and so on, and do something real about ending the war, well, it’s not, not exactly that format would be good. of course, if according to of international law, all 20 countries spoke out, condemned russia and wrote a resolution demanding that

russian troops be completely removed from ukrainian territory, well, this will not happen because there are a couple of countries there that will block all of these things, so there are high hopes for what this will solve there is no situation. but in order to convey the position of kyiv once again to show the importance of the fact that the aggressor must be condemned because such a situation can be played out anywhere in the world and so on. and then this flow of soldiers will be endless and so on, it is important to convey to all our partners well, and well, of course, we hope that china and brazil will change their position a little, and maybe india, and so on. well, it will be some kind of evolutionary, small, maybe a snake . aggression itself, the

site is a significant one, it is, so to speak , a place where the issue of the world order is decided in relation to some global issues. we cannot say that the war in ukraine is not a global problem, there are global problems, it is a global problem, but here unfortunately, this is a global problem in this format, there will be no higher hopes for the seven by seven, we need to work further and it can produce such a real consolidated solution , we need to work further with the european union, with nato, in whom, of course, is the osce, the council of europe, and even in the council security, we already have problems because the members of the twenty are already present in the security council, and once again it will be

difficult to achieve full pressure on the russian federation, meanwhile, we are so excessively optimistic about this summit and the report of the ukrainian of the issuers proved the participants thank you, you see on the one hand, it seems like an hour of communication attacks, an hour is not enough to talk to you about such important things , so what? thank you to our guests, oleksandr levchenko , a diplomat, was an extraordinary ambassador, the powers of the ambassador of ukraine in the republic of croatia, 10-17 years old, as well as valentin glykh and the political scientist was just in this part of our broadcast. thank you, thank you , beautiful homonai .

independence so it is difficult for us to divorce because of that, they deliberately hit unpopulated areas in broad daylight, they plant mines with deadly iron on the holy ukrainian land. but instead of fear and despair, they will see in our eyes only their own death . hell, and our comrades from the state emergency service, rescuers, fire fighters , pyrotechnics, will help demining, dismantle rubble, and bring cities and towns back to life day and night, regardless of shelling or weariness and darkness fade away