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croatia, don't miss the national telethon, the only news, the international crimean platform, the first parliamentary summit, glory to ukraine is a program, my name is serhiy rudenko, everyone, have a good day and good health today 232 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers at night at the un general assembly, 143 states voted for a resolution in support of territorial integrity of ukraine and condemned the annexation of the territories occupied by russia in the zaporozhye region of kherson, donetsk and

luhansk regions. strikes on ukraine in the lviv region hit a military facility again, military property was destroyed, there were no victims in the chernivtsi region, the anti-aircraft defense went off near the devil explosions were also heard in ternopil oblast, ukrainian air defense was working. over the past 24 hours , the russians have carried out 32 strikes against the occupiers and continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine. as of the morning of october 13, russia has lost more than 63,800 people in ukraine already in the last day. since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 2,511 tanks, 5,167 armored fighting vehicles, 1,507

artillery systems, 357 rocket launcher systems, and 183 anti-aircraft defense systems in ukraine 268 planes, 340 helicopters, 3935 units of automobile equipment, 16 crew ships, 316 cruise missiles - 1182 drones, 140 units of special equipment, the enemy suffered the most on the kramatorsk and kryvyi rih lines, the un and the couple went against putin, they promise to close the sky over ukraine with modern anti-aircraft defense. the main topics of our conversation today we have a politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 valery chaly mr. valery slava ukraine is glad to see you on our broadcast. thank you for joining us. so valeriu. today

, october 13, the couple adopted a resolution recognizing russia as a terrorist regime. it says that russia is declared a terrorist regime, 79 deputies voted for this amendment, two were against and one abstained, the resolution also included an amendment calling on ukraine to anti-aircraft defense systems p valery, what does this resolution and this unanimity mean in a couple, we know with you that several decisions er-e very significant have taken place in various international organizations these days and caused clearly it was

absolutely cynical and defiant and demonstrative er-e shooting by missiles of the civilian population of the infrastructure in ukraine. that is, all the fuses. i think in this plan to remove some explanation of what could be, uh, russia there, act in a different way, escalation may be, may not be. and this has already been removed, so there is no they see what's happening and if they don't react to these things, they play along with the aggressor, it's very simple, that's why i'd like to see another amendment in this resolution . we are grateful for that, they have no right it seems nothing has changed with the terrorists, the hungarian minister of foreign affairs, when he votes to recognize a terrorist regime, he

is in control of this regime. in order to provide for one's family, one's relatives, one's relatives, one's reliable good means the provision of some well, more than a year, to throw something there for the hungarians, an additional 13 pensions. this, i do not understand. if there is one organization, the council of europe makes decisions one by one, and er, it means some countries i won't say that hungary is a mansion right now, everything is manipulated by values, so ... i would like them to bring them to their senses, but unfortunately, the mechanisms of the couple are not working. in this way, there is monitoring, monitoring can be carried out regarding the exercise of rights such things, frankly speaking, are not prescribed anywhere, you mentioned several important decisions during the last day and age, the

united nations tonight also voted for a resolution on the territorial integrity of ukraine, the protection of the principles of the un charter, 143 countries of the world condemned the annexation or the occupation of part of the territory of ukraine by the russian federation voted against russia, belarus, syria, the dprk and nicaragua 19 countries abstained 39 35 countries abstained and in particular 19 african countries what is interesting is that to vote for this resolution also voted for afghanistan, that is, the taliban, you can comment on these three pools of countries that voted, that abstained, that voted against. just this decision , it is unlike the uh, i think the decision of the council of europe

will have more consequences, much more, why i you i will remind you of the pretest , a resolution was introduced that condemned the attempt to annex the territory of ukraine and for its territorial integrity , i.e., well, obvious things according to the charter and in the un security council, russia alone, without anyone, did it, well, that is it is obvious that they are also the cause of all this and here is the connection of the states, for which we are grateful to them , albania took the initiative very clearly from a legal point of view, it carried out the process precisely to ask this question in the general assembly, and here i will not just tell you to gain such a number of votes of the mineral assembly and the resolution was called the territorial of ukraine and the confirmation of the principles of the un charter is a completely different thing, that is, in fact, it

revealed which countries clearly adhere to the un charter, and which in their interests temporarily manipulate by this and e-e for us, this is a very big victory over russia, because on our side, at least for today, there are 143 countries that have clearly declared their position , and well, really five, that is, a killer score of 143:5. therefore, this is the largest number in all the years since 2014 year, when the support of territorial integrity was voted by the widest circle of the state, but despite what they say, thank you to ukrainian diplomats . albanians that is, these are joint actions that led to the fact that a large number of countries nevertheless adopted the correct

position now regarding those countries that were undecided or avoided voting here, it is necessary to understand that avoiding voting is better than remaining in yellow on the scoreboard , undecided in why? because if you didn't come there to vote, then you are giving the party that initiates the resolution the opportunity to show a greater advantage, yes. that is, well, these subtleties are so diplomatic , that's why i'll just tell you when you watch if a country that abstained, that is, abstained from voting, that is worse than a country that simply did not take part in voting, so it is written about these countries, what does china mean, china absolutely, in my opinion, made a huge mistake, china did not vote for the principles of the un charter well, in principle, he believed that this is american support means

we will be against the americans, as a result, a member of the council of security voted against the principles of the un charter at this vote , and this is the day before the decision on the further fate of sredzempiano, it will be tomorrow the day after tomorrow is the congress and i think that many things will be discussed, how china will act further, yes, for now, it has shown a weak position as a country that claims to have some kind of role in the new world, that is , such a country cannot vote like that, either it is for or it is against and all these orders are a weak position. india, the largest democracy in terms of numbers in the world, has shown its absolute well, not the manifestation of the un that it wants to show its name in the world. unfortunately , we knew india as a democracy that protects there against the empire against e- e having his colleagues nu mahat competition, gandhi would have turned over in his grave if he knew what his country is doing now in

this situation, that is, these two countries. unfortunately, they are leading their line. it's good to remember this when we conduct all politics with them, it's time to analyze our external contractual base with china from india, i.e. brazil of other countries that we counted on well, of course, uh, you all see azerbaijan in armenia, what are those, and even worse, armenia. well, this is how they behave in relation to us , because they have a war among themselves, they concentrated on their issues, but i'm sorry, they concentrated on theirs, the time will come we will also concentrate on our own and forget, please also remember this, i also want to convey this message to my friends in kazakhstan, once i managed to

convince the ambassador of kazakhstan, and he asked for the confirmation of his president, and they voted for the territorial integrity of ukraine, but only once, unfortunately, now they were not as bold as it was once before, the same applies to our former neighbors in the soviet union, or the countries of uzbekistan and tajikistan. well, i think that we should adjust our foreign policy in relation to to be honest, they were just vassals, vassals of moscow, what did they say here, but it's complicated, uh, i think that we really need to communicate. trips to africa give results, i'll tell you, i said it myself from the day before the vote, well, it wasn't tied to before the vote itself, but with the africans. we are conducting our informational project there, some kind of support for our interests in ukraine, that is why they say that the

situation in africa is very difficult, they do not know much about the regimes that exist there, of course russia is trying to provide them with weapons, give them funds, but i have a simple question. indeed, they gave ethiopia free of charge and somalia. we gave 420 million grains, all that means ethiopia votes . it is still necessary to look carefully at this, because these countries are really african and we need to work with them, but while in russia there are much more levers in china, in this case, i believe that it was the active position of the united states that helped us gather the votes of african countries, but this is not always the case that's why i look at it more calmly in african countries. well, in principle, we should

thank everyone for this, a very revealing result. saudi arabia, the united arab emirates , showed in this case that they essentially changed their position that is, this is this, this is the victory of normal countries over a country that is getting more and more isolated , a pariah country, a country that didn't happen russia, eh, valeriu , can this vote be a prologue to the reform of the united nations, in particular, regarding the un security council, where russia has the right of veto well, we have repeatedly talked with you on the air about how russia got into the un security council and in general into the un since 1991, when they declared themselves the legal successors of the soviet union, at a time when belarus and ukraine were the founders the united nations organizations actually extended their membership after the collapse of the soviet union because ukraine was already represented there during the

soviet union, and can this unity encourage the united nations organization, as at one time a league of nations, to reformat or make some new object? unity, if only to limit the right of russian terrorists, a country of terror, to influence world politics by using the right of veto in the council of security, well, let me briefly say, yes, i do not count on the fact that russia will be thrown out of the un, so even if she will lose absolutely on legal grounds she will lose now this place she will submit in a new way, as china did in its time and she will become a member of the soviet security council that is, it will not change the situation, well, it will be an image blow to russia and maybe for a period even they will not be able to there are promises, but this scenario is difficult, in principle, the un, well, as it

was, the league of nations should be completely dissolved, and should it be dissolved, and on this basis , a new organization should be created that would correspond to the new realities, that is, i think so and will when it we will see for today, these years we will be with such an organization, which has its pluses and minuses, pluses, we. it has both platforms, as you can see , for the development of a common position of many countries of the world . absolutely no uh when uh well a country that for some reason took away really in this case the soviet union there uh heritage that is in terms of strength i mean you see everything that russia is fighting mostly everything that is complex in the soviets and nuclear weapons soviet completely on that, well, that is, in principle, they took it away

for themselves uh well, it was a big mistake of the countries that gave nuclear weapons to russia, it would have been much more reliable to do it without transferring it to russia well, but we have such a situation today. therefore, this is a vote on the resolution on territorial value ukraine is also such a landmark vote that you can count the number of countries in order to seriously limit the right of veto to a minimum. and it is possible to deprive russia of the veto . big countries have focused on this , well, china is also afraid of this, but uh, well, working against the process is, you know, like a slab swimming against the current, so this will be a reformation, but i emphasize once again. i believe that this organization has already exhausted itself, it will not work in the field of security she can do health cafes and help the children

of africa, all this is great, but in terms of security, she has completely discredited herself, well, that is, the security system that existed until february 24, 2022 no longer exists and, well , it collapsed, i just collapsed it and smashed it with a weapon vladimir putin by the way, let's listen to the fact that the permanent representative of the russian federation at the un did not talk about this vote in the un general assembly. today we are present at explain the historical meeting. the president of the people, who was trying to knock out the necessary eyes from the developing countries, turned out to be the president of the people on the most procedural manners of which on october 10 in the course of

on the first day of the renewed special session, not only did the members of the state not have the opportunity to vote without coercion through the secret ballot, but they gave the blackmailers additional time for blackmail, such was the rhetoric of the soviet union during the cold war, and it was very, very revealing . no, it is different from the soviet union . not benze, which putin calls benza, public, er, he wrote to others, he said, why not benze, you will benze, the situation is known, not ben, for loser, he completely lost, he he already included rudeness, he included such things that those who see how he works have not seen him for many years , that is, no one has seen this kind of behavior of this representative. he tried to do manipulations, insulted the chairman, insulted other countries, what was he trying to do

to make this russia's loserness five one one russia four countries did not see it, for this they needed a secret vote, and you know what you did not want, they did not want to discuss anything at all when they saw that the situation was not in their favor, but let's quickly vote openly and everything closed this is the topic closed? did they close this topic and forget about it? there is no need for any debate. no need for it to work . cynics say it is the nazis, not ben - it is not a diplomat, not a loser. and if i were in the kremlin, i would have given him a kick in the back a long time ago because he will lose there. with a devastating score, that is, if we talk about the diplomatic service, and if we talk about this rhetoric, well, let's go ahead, let's see what will happen to you. one more moment, one important thing must be taken into account: diplomats, as well as those

involved in crimes, are war criminals. i i think i am being taken to a tribunal for this characteristic, and you and i are not a tribunal, but comparing historically, this characteristic has already been earned by lavrov, the minister of foreign affairs, not exactly for benzene, and there are also er, without vinniki who are also earned p valery now for the press conference of the general secretary of nato and institutetenberg live from brussels, let's see what toltenberg says according to the results of the meeting in rammstein, following international law and order, well, that is, it is not part of the conflict, but we will continue it is necessary to provide support to ukraine as much as it will be needed, we were glad that the minister of defense of ukraine, mr. reznikov, would join us and he could give relevant information, russia

is moving forward excellently, the progress is obvious, in particular in the eastern and southern directions, ukraine will receive new air defense systems, artillery systems, armored vehicles and others has already been allocated to ukraine in the next few days, ukraine has received modern systems, in particular from germany, and we are now calling on all countries to strengthen their efforts, in particular in as part of preparations for the winter and as part of such an aid package, genato receives ukraine will receive drones from nato that will be in opposition to the

iranian martyr drones, which are currently destroying the infrastructure of ukraine, in the future we will provide assistance to ukraine in the transition from soviet to nato equipment this morning our allies held a regular meeting on nuclear deterrence, we consulted and coordinated our visions on the nuclear issue, because putin's narratives are irresponsible, but we must take this kind of thing seriously threats, we must be vigilant and not be intimidated. we understand that the use of tactical nuclear weapons will significantly change the essence of the conflict and have powerful consequences. of course, russia

understands that it is impossible to win, so there is no need to start it. nuclear deterrence exercises are already starting next week - these are our planned regular exercises which actually help nato countries feel safe and stay in good shape show the heads of the defense departments also reviewed our progress on e-e deterrence and defense we increased the number of our troops on the eastern flank of nato, in particular from the bank to the black sea, and we understand that the troops can quickly increase to the level of brigades . we have also increased the amount of ammunition and equipment in order to provide for

urgent needs in ukraine in the long term. we will also facilitate the purchase of the necessary equipment more quickly and supply on the territory of ukraine » to remain stable in particular with regard to the energy issue as well as the issue of cyber security because we

see a regular number of e-e cybertats during of the final session and he was somehow joined by the high representative of the eu borel and we emphasized how important it is to strengthen cooperation between the eu and nato ukraine nato continues the joint operation and mission on its territory the security environment in accordance with the mandate with vasyl it is more important

to maintain the necessary dialogue and intervene when this will require the situation , they said that france will not respond with nuclear weapons, when russia, if russia resorts to the use of tactical nuclear weapons, how will nato react in such a scenario

nato's nuclear deterrence, reduction of aggression and peace-building, of course the circumstances in which nato can use nuclear weapons are extremely remote, we understand that the rhetoric that russia is conducting is dangerous and reckless in the event of such use, the consequences will be very powerful, therefore i want to emphasize once again that, unfortunately, nuclear war is not you can win, so you don't need to start it."