uh, they showed there, uh, in chernihiv, uh, people that a big column was going. well, we knocked out their battalion commander and another car was knocked over , destroyed the teams, everyone saw it and started to turn around and enter from chernihiv because it was the first day yes, the first day. what was it like? because the people realized that there was no command, why would they have to go to chernihiv? what? we will take them apart there piece by piece. as they say, they were fed by their behavior and by their actions. they did not expect such resistance, and they were confused by that. that their they met with armed armed resistance a worthy opponent, so they did not expect they thought that they would drive in and we would run away they thought that we saw such a large column and we will turn around and immediately go to the corner there to chernigov or for chernigov well, how did we get captured e-e the commander of the

battalion, his lieutenant, we talked with them, which one do you have? why did you go to chernihiv, that they don't sit at home there or something else? they asked him a couple of questions and he was silent and didn't say anything. and with the guide he was adequate there, he said that an order is an order, well, that's exactly how it is written, the ratio of forces, you said that the column was very large russian and how many of you were there, how many of them were there and how many of you well, don't mention infantry, we had territorial defense, more of us had territorial chernihiv, chernihiv, the city of chernihiv , there were 60-70 men, and there were four armored tanks, four tanks, covering this line

, which we stood in the city of chernihiv from these four of tanks, uh, uh, worked well, as they say, the bad guy, well , only my tank worked because, knowing that we were bypassed on the right, uh, the battalion commander gave the order to withdraw, some of our tankers stood on the right side, because when they stood there until the end, and well, just there would have been a tov, er, it was bad, and they would have given us an order, they left, and i just had a good position to meet them with a shot. the tank actually stopped this column and the gate was stopped attack on chernihiv yes, i thought that ours were there,

i don’t know, 100-150 tanks, well, it seemed to me that we should have some kind of parity. and such a thing to stop an entire column with one tank or four tanks, well, it’s hard to imagine a guy like that, tanks were just tanks surrounded around chernigov, just on our border there were four yes, that is , several similar similar stories happened in different directions yes yes yes and what after that i already want to move to donbas but also to the eastern front but still chernihiv yes they regrouped they made another attempt to enter chernigov for the second time to attack it, or did they realize that your positions are so much stronger that it is better to stand aside, well, they tried to enter , they regrouped and on the 28th, around 7:00 p.m., they asked again e- e poshtinka position where i was working on the

first tank when they asked to come in. i moved there where i hit it from the side, i just stood behind it and hid under a bush, that is. i was standing in the bushes under the suit, and at that moment they asked me to come in again in the evening. i don't know what the superiors told them that we were gone. the tankers were driving as they went. someone was sitting on top of the hatch. like in the car, he opened the window , got out and drove off. do you remember their staff armored personnel carrier, they wanted to break through again, well, a tank. i can't say about the tank, but the armored personnel carrier was knocked out, they were only able to drive one and a half kilometers away from it and they were simply exhausted from the documentation with everything, so you won not only the equipment there, but it was knocked out, but and documentation it is important, yes, yes, and their superiors gathered these commanders then. well, if you think about it that way

, then the battalion commander and the chief of staff. well, you don’t need any more. yes, to find out, they were sent to some training. they didn’t know. they all tell me that it’s absolutely like under the hood. i get the impression that it really can’t, but they are just silent, everyone just tells the same thing in the ranks, it’s the same fairy tale everywhere that we were going to study here, so we suddenly found ourselves on ukrainian land, people didn’t know that this was ukraine they didn't see anything, they didn't tell us anything, and we, er, but well, uh, another tank is coming at you, uh, you are shooting, there must be some kind of guess where it will appear somewhere, that maybe you are somewhere in another country. by the way, arthur, we wanted to ask you, you have been fighting since the 14th year, how have they changed since then, the war has been going on for eight years and, well, usually all military personnel learn in the

course of these skirmishes during the war, so the russians have learned something, somehow their tactics their behavior their level their training is something, is it possible psychologically that you noticed some changes in their behavior, something changed in them during these eight years, in my opinion, 8 years in our country, as it was 8 years ago, we had donetsk and luhansk, people there learned something to fight, but russia never learned she's only been studying for six months, you've come to war, they're already starting something there, changing their tactics at the beginning, they how did it go, the book was written by sovetskaya and you are the commander of the battle line , the first one. others textbooks and the year 62 or the year 42 so you

understood then when the defense of chernihiv began that the capture of chernihiv by the russians opens the way for them to capture kyiv, did you understand the importance of the commander telling you about this that the boys must be held at any cost because this is chernihiv the gate to kyiv. this is what the battalion commander said that when we withdraw, chernigov will be difficult for us and kyiv will be more difficult, well, we are our tankers, and the territorial defense held on with its teeth to this detail, even holding this land and not wanted to give chernihiv and didn't give it because we were on our land, we knew what we stood for, uh, it lasted until the end, you know, i stayed in kyiv when the war started, and that's why i want to personally

thank you on behalf of all the kyivans whom you actually protected -and in chernihiv and sumy, by the way, too , that is, precisely because the enemy was unable to defeat with all his strength through these lines, that is why a critical large group of groups did not gather near kyiv. of course, kyiv also had its own circumstances and there were some natural obstacles in in the form rivers rivers irpin there were many different circumstances but your contribution is also impossible not to mark impossible to overestimate thank you very much from all your kind all viewers yes join and indeed and although they are there along some roads they advanced to kyiv but they could not capture or did not want to transform him to the base for some of his efforts just on the way, therefore, the withdrawal of russia from the kyiv region would not have been possible if it had not been for such heroic acts of fighting that they did, we can say that in general the defense

chernigov and the amount it has in general, this is a separate page of this war, we will read it and we will talk a lot more about it, we will have a lot of 1+1 is returning to the air about the ethnic guard and today, september 11, is the day of the tankman in ukraine, so we have heroes from this in the studio of the front, artur oliferenko , captain, tank company commander, and maksym borysenko, sergeant, tank commander, soldiers of the first separate northern tank brigade, in the first part, we talked about the defense of chernigov. they began to learn about us somewhere in april, there was an activation in marathon of the commander of your brigade , leonid khody, he was then somewhere in the east, directly from the combat positions, he told us that ah, we asked about the fact that old

soviet tanks were supplied to the russians t-62 how weak they are there, because everyone makes fun of it on the network. and he says that it doesn’t matter what kind of tank it is, yes, it has guns , it shoots, that is, tell me how the tank battles in donbas are different from the fact that it happened in chernihiv. yes, they were in chernihiv not ready, it was actually such a small target, yes, it was for your close-range shooting. if this is how you can compare it, on the eastern front, everything is a little different, what is happening there. yes, the denigration is very different from the direction we worked, there were moments in the lysichansk direction, it is real operatives, the amount of artillery exceeds ours , and the number and number of troops in our country had such cases, they

occupied the specified area to repel the enemy, incredibly large columns of equipment were coming at us, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, a lot of them, the task of breaking through this what are we defending our border with, but they say that they learn earlier, who marched in the column, over time, i'm already trying to find a pain line somewhere to hide the car, its seats so that they are less visible , but there are already such people, there are such people who are adequate there are those who, as they say, the wage-earners simply moved money. but there are those who are adequate, and there are enough professionals there, too. they will answer that there are enough people like that, too, and because the advantage

in the artillery is, even now, the morning begins and they start all the cover landings in the morning, even there and ours there are no troops there, they are cutting this landing , for example, something, god forbid, something will smoke there, they are starting to cover it to the end so that they will not climb, as it is not a forest landing, but the trunks themselves will stand, that is, they don’t count shells, they don’t count, they can too just as they advance, they destroy chaos, well, it was wild for me, they were destroying, i was watching with binoculars, they were destroying a village, a village, uh, because mine is 30-40, they have not completely destroyed this entire village in two hours, then they enter with their own hands then come in a that's all with tanks, but it is very difficult to counter such artillery attacks, yes, it is very

difficult, because we have artillery, yes , the newest types of artillery, but we have few of them and they have more firing points, and ours cannot all these fireballs hit the gunners, this is for counter battery combat, and these are classic, as in the movies, and tank duels take place, and there were such ones. so, when you see the enemy, he sees you . e skill is only yours so they were like that battles, please tell me some of them, how are we going to return to chernihiv? chernihiv was like that when they entered. we looked at each other, he may not have seen somewhere, well, the distance was 500 meters , but i drank the first combatant, the same way, on lysichansk, in this direction, they left just further their car was parked at 1100, that is, we will find one,

you see well, i don't know if he saw me well, i saw him and i worked because you probably saw him first, you are sitting here yes, yes, yes haha ​​i just worked on one side and rolled on the other side because i asked them to go there and they are trying to go there, i rolled out there, worked, and they went along the main road and we will climb it from vovchelarivka to the neighbor of the frenchman. as many as three tanks came forward, the french knocked out one tank, it stops, it starts burning, the tower flies away and a car drives up behind them. they don’t even look at the wounds of jesus . they go around this burnt tank, that is, they are lying wounded, they don't stop. they don't collect them, they go

around and go straight ahead. the frenchman comes out again from the second point, knocks it out, the turret flies away, the bmp leaves, one tank goes around, that is, the infantry is really not there. already lies down, goes around the second one and goes on, the frenchman leaves again with a cumulative projectile right at the bmp mechanics , that is, there is no bmp and left the hill, the frenchman did not have time to roll back the iron, their 80s were 272, and then the 80s spun out and hit the frenchman in forehead the crew is intact, but the car was slightly damaged at that moment, i rolled out a little to the side, i saw where the flash came from, i hit it with a collotive, it remained there in place, right on the hillock, as a good target for our infantry, on the side we had already just jumped up a little from the second position, a javelin and helped me to finish the bell in general. well,

this guy is just like this one in theirs. well, they are either smoked there or under drugs and all. well, how is it possible? well, my point of view would be that if i was walking and they would shoot at me , that is, one car was hit, i understand already was hiding or i would retreat and they advance and advance, that is, there or for people, no, they are not counted and what they are just let in and that's all or what they promise him that they make such sacrifices, this story that you told is the course of death you just know but this story seems so small to me. the film is cool, yes, the story of the tank battle is fascinating, but you tell it so cheerfully, but at the same time, it is probably also scary, especially for such a young person like you, what is it, this is an iron box in which you can just it is elementary to burn out and not have time such cases pop up well, in principle, there are or is it possible that modern technology is no longer as dangerous as it used to be. so in soviet tanks, when

people just burned inside, how is it ? tank, if it stands in one place and works from one place, then it is clear that either artillery or sneaking up will somehow destroy it from the side. i'm sitting here with you right now, we're talking, i want literally one river, isn't it scary, and what am i afraid of, i'm on my own land, let them be afraid, i'm in a tank, by the way , and before such a nuance, we all read the news , and what's going on, i'll talk about some others what atrocities are committed by the russian military, and well , you yourself understand what emotions rise inside each person in this uh, how does it affect you and how can it somehow affect your behavior

during the battle, such news when you really hate these people and somehow this indicates your your emotional state adds illusions and maybe some kind of such, you know, i call it furorts in tonicus - this is teutonic fury, teutonic rage, well , it adds, as they say, anger, hmm, and in battle , you want it. well, you must also understand that if you are a good commander, then if you are very angry in your car and don't drive and think less about ato, anger will quickly destroy you. that is , you can't drive a car and get angry . called names there and they are so bad and you were driving well , when you shoot, on the contrary, you have to smile, well, it caught fire, oh well, the attack on the guests is one plus, and i want to come to you too, and we still have a few minutes

, i literally want to ask, what did you understand about the enemy, starting with february 24, are there any observations, any conclusions? what did you make during these six months of the war? what did you understand , maybe from a military point of view? and maybe from a socio-psychological point of view? i analyzed it for myself in six months, but i just didn’t understand why the military of the russian federation came to our land, what do they have in mind? how many prisoners did i see? i asked them, what was the incentive for you to come here? what did you say? well, everyone just kept silent and said: yes, we were mobilized, we said we would come. arrived well, why can't you refuse or something else, well, i just don't understand this anymore. yes, in battles, too

, i say exactly what they say, it's scary, it's scary, it 's scary, there's an order, only he has to carry out this order, uh, it's really scary when after the battle ends, the battle is very scary, too, that's right, eh the battle is over, you're already scared and you approach the prisoner and say, "you're not scared, but he's sitting there looking at you, why did you come to me at all? " ten tanks. well, at the moment, i'm doing. how, for example, there are five cars, there are six cars coming out of the company, i can hear, a little, a little, i'm standing behind my tanks , so that i can see striplex from the commander

's turret all my tanks so that i could control the battle because, er, i don't know where they can leave, the right flank will tell me, for example, that i can see the enemy, i'm destroying everything, i understood that more attention should be paid to the right flank, the left one means he's watching in the right flank, i have to help in case of what he says that's not how i lead the company, but i also help it to conduct fire, well, in case of an enemy rush there from the right side, the guys need help, i'm going from the right side, goodbye, in case of the left side, the left side is going , eh, that's what scares me, how and i'm afraid for myself newer i'm scared for my colleagues who are with me next to me to worry the most scary for someone well for yourself you hit in your tank you're here and when you have 10 tanks in front of you and

their lives and their successful shots depend on your coordination well, i imagine maxim told us how the tank was driving, he didn't see us. well, we saw it, but maxim was looking at the tank. he told me a tank, and i had a head shot because the crew of the frenchman, as maxim said, was hit. was his head twisted at the fact that boys are alive or dead because i saw at three that when our tank was knocked out, the guys got out from behind the boshna, which made me feel better that the guys hid in the landing, that they were alive and there they were with the paratroopers. i already knew that the guys were in good hands. the guys are in reliable hands, they are killed right at the very end, here is a literally short question . so when does this counteroffensive of ours take place, for which we all hold our fists and pray for you? tell me

, please, how has the behavior of the russians changed? has it changed ? they run away from the headmaster just in panic and the prisoners surrender in hundreds and so on and so on. is it true and why did it happen? what do you think, is it true that they surrender and that they are surrendering as prisoners, they throw away the equipment even in general according to the conversations of my fellow chickens? well... as they said, we haven't reached it yet, the enemy is already getting out of the tank and running away, i'm saying that it's a tank next to it, we already have a few questions about the trophy, please, two words, well, we're disassembling, uh, we're collecting and we're going to collect trophy tanks it is for a tanker as it is collection e so you took, for example, the t-72 so you already need a second modification of the t-72 b3 well, where is it? the more the better, only the machines will be so so so so so

so so draw their marks sit down and work on it yes yes yes yes that uh, when we take trophy tanks, that's why uh, there are specialists who uh, uh, know that the 72nds sit down and continue to fight on them, and it turns out perfectly, those tanks are already going in their direction, but i also talked to your soldiers and they say that your commander the commander of the da leonid hoda brigade, he is constantly on the front line the truth is that with the guys she is there and in battle she is eager and helps coordinates does not sit in the rear neither does the battalion commander sit in the rear i saw him a lot on the front line very often helps battalion commanders even helps company commanders to come up to tell what is better to do brigade commander it’s good if there were

more such brigade commanders in the brigade, but it’s not possible, the first severska is the first, and there’s no question about her, she will be the first. yes, and he says that among the tank crews, because they are all cool, but they say that the first severska is one of the most powerful, well, we have to finish. maxim here , before the broadcast, they talked about an incredible story of how they got into the army in two minutes. well, i didn't believe that such a thing could happen. well, please tell me, it's a very interesting story. at the age of 14-15, my father was taken away for mobilization. i came back to debaltsevo later, i would still study and there was a large farm at home, i thought to myself that i wanted to go to school , not to the lyceum, i already thought that i wanted to join the army, i want to try, well, how is discipline? i it's just that at home at that time my father said that i won't let you join the army because the war is going on. you're 18 and

he says i know how fast you are with me, you'll get yourself together and go . i say i will go to the district to buy spare parts for a motorcycle. but for my passport and to the military commissar district, i say i want to be in the army for that many years, i say 18, and then i was on conscription from the 21st. well, for the first time since independence, ukrainians began to read more books in their native nightingale. research results institute of books for the past year from its side and the espresso book prize readers' choice for the fifth season in a row attracts large and small compatriots to read ukrainian books as a result more than seven thousand readers took part in voting for their favorite book unfortunately

, people do not read much, so i i would say that such contests attract people to libraries to read, to study our language, and also ukrainian culture. this is a very good initiative from the espresso tv channel, which helps ukrainian literature and many more spins in the promotion because when the literature is in the media, it will attract additional attention of the reader, and these aviation literature serhiy zhadana radio night by yury andruhovich and 20 + 1 may the land of the dead by pavlo volvach and the publishers have shared with us the secrets of the popularity of modern ukrainian books, we have already several times participated in such and such an espresso contest and we really appreciate that it exists. after all, all contests are very important in ukraine

, they strengthen literary life and provide some kind of motivation for authors and this contest er, in which there are our authors, here is this one this year , i think it was very motivating for many, in general, modern ukrainian literature, which is colorful, lacks infrastructure infrastructure - it is not only bookstores, but it is also special media broadcasts, special er not so long ago, the organizing committee received thousands of completed questionnaires with comments from ukrainian, jordanian and norwegian readers, and our independent observers from bakertilly monitored the very process of counting votes, although the war spoiled the plans of the book award. however , the organizers are finally ready to announce the name

of the winner with joy. i am pleased to inform you that your book radio night in the nomination of literature for adults with a result of 40% of its nomination, that is, about 3,000 votes, it received eh in the readership and became the winner of this nomination, and the statuettes have already come to us. this is what it looks like, we will definitely pass it on to you, and the winner of the award yuriy andruhovich himself shared his impressions with us. i am extremely grateful, it's just mmm for me wonderful news, thank you to everyone who read the novel, and even the fact that the aggressors, the occupiers , attack our libraries with such fury in the territories they temporarily bought, this

testifies to the great importance of the library to our culture and in the creation of our identity, according to the writer, now war is the time to create our own time to enrich ukrainians with their native literature greetings to all viewers of the espresso tv channel in the iryna studio