this church should be autocephalous, independent from russia, the state has the right to regulate it. why is our state now stuck in the sand? why are those hierarchs and priests who say that they support ukraine or against gundyaev? well, let them leave this church and join canonical churches to the ukrainian orthodox church to other churches that are economic please can become protestants or greek catholics it is actually also forbidden to bury your head in the sand as i heard correctly this is an extremely serious story because we let's go back to the story about your legal projects regarding russian or russian peace in ukraine, your draft laws, a draft law that represents the government's vision of the problem. these are extremely important things . to the ministry of culture, to the ministry of culture itself, we are waiting for answers to them, they are silent, on the contrary, the minister of culture says that there is no need for church affairs

. the state protects its faithful everywhere and takes care of the existence of the church on its territory, yes. of course we have freedom of religion, of course people can choose for themselves which church to go to, but if there is a church of an enemy country on the territory of the state, which is essentially a representation of an enemy country in war conditions, this is obviously unacceptable it was possible to treat it differently before receiving the tomos and until russia started a war in the 14th year and now already this year began a full-scale invasion, but now we have to change this attitude and it does not concern freedom of religion, it concerns our security of our state system well, before the state may have buried its head in the sand, i still cannot help but remember the news of the last few days that the employees of the security service of ukraine together with the national police, investigative and operational measures were carried out within the framework of criminal proceedings under article 161

of the criminal code of ukraine, which is a violation of the equality of citizens depending on their race , nationality, religious beliefs disability and on other grounds, and we are talking now about the vinnytsia metropolitan of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in peace, this is anatolii yeletskih, and in any case, we see that the special services are trying to move in this direction, but here the question is what is the specific number of such cases and finds in residences and there should be such people in their workplaces so that a decision at the state level on the recognition of the moscow patriarchate in a certain status has matured, well, look, the services work on specific cases it's positively good and it's good that they work, but imagine the pre-war situation of the black sea fleet in crimea before crimea was occupied and annexed, the black sea fleet was

standing there, the russian army was standing there, these people were walking the streets, conducting russian propaganda, arming themselves, preparing for war, but no one moved them, because then there was no war, there were appropriate agreements, the adoption of which now allegedly promises to investigate us as if investigative bodies are investigating because even certain suspicions about kharkiv were put forward to certain politicians as far as i know. imagine that the black sea fleet continues and the officers of the black sea fleet continue to live on the territory of ukraine, but crimea is admittedly not occupied, but there is a war going on and there is an officer of the black sea fleet there, or they live in the kherson region or in transcarpathia, do they walk down the street in the lviv region, there is an open bra and they walk in russian uniforms on our streets and say, wait, we are law-abiding citizens. if one of us here somewhere wrote something on facebook, let the sbu detain him, but we have the right to

law-abiding citizens are here, but the russian church is, in fact, part of the instrument of russian aggression, it is like the russian army. and these people who walk the streets there, by the way, in that russian army there were also many ukrainians who did not take the oath of loyalty to ukraine, took the oath to loyalty to russia and stayed to live in simferopol, sevastopol, now exactly the same priests live in us all over ukraine, who are no different from those military men, and we tolerate it, and the state tolerates it, and then the state wonders why they died how many people, why do these priests, uh, work for the clergy, why are they engaged in anti-ukrainian propaganda, they are engaged in anti-ukrainian propaganda, and the state cannot tolerate it. if the state is a telor, then those representatives who telor the state are also essentially working for the enemy for me. this will obviously now be added to of our conversation vitaliy markiv , officer of the battalion of operational assignment named after general kulchytskyi of the national guard of ukraine, we congratulate vitaly, glory to ukraine and a great holiday

to you. thank you for everything. glory to the heroes. congratulations to the studio. well, we today we are talking about the actual holiday, we are also talking about how much its meaning has changed this year with the large-scale invasion. well , at the same time, we do not miss the opportunity . how big is the difference and what we came out of on february 24, please. everything is very simple, and we are ready to liberate ukrainian territories, we are successfully completing all tasks, and the enemy thought that here in ukraine they would shoot him with flowers and bread and with salt and only met with funeral wreaths, i can certainly assure that all ukrainian territories, including crimea, will return to the control

of ukraine, as far as the situation is currently fierce on the part of the front where you are and your comrades from the kulchytskyi battalion are, i can say that the difficult situation around bakhmut the enemy is trying to win at least some kind of victory in our direction, and after the fall of raisin and other cities, he is so to speak, the motivational war is broken, but we haven’t finished it yet, eh, we should expect from a their so-called mobilizations, we call them brothers here, and of course there will be many more of all kinds, so to speak, 300 thousand armed men had how many hours at one point in our direction, er, somewhere, unfortunately, this bullet

is young, you should not underestimate them. and because they have weapons there is still a lot of equipment to bring in, well, they also have more than enough that their morale has now fallen and they actually understand that the course of the war a is turning, they did not expect that we would go on a counteroffensive, they did not expect that all territories would be liberated they are so fast they said that the estuary will never fall buy won't fall raisin won't fall but these are the final results of their adventure which will lead to the destruction of the russian federation and the terrorist regime called putin and his company they vitaly, well , usually nowadays everyone congratulates the defenders of ukraine and we would like that you congratulate the ukrainians on the great triune holiday of the protection of the holy mother of god on the day of the upa and

the day of the defenders of ukraine, well, on behalf of my brothers and all the armed forces with whom i am familiar, i want to congratulate all ukrainians, and with this it is a holiday for us, it is important, it has acquired a very great importance, we have proved to the whole world that we are a nation of brave, free, free people, that we really say something . i would like to sincerely express my thanks to all the volunteers who make extraordinary efforts, who prove the most important points without weapons. what is necessary. they are always in touch, they help us. well, i want to thank all the indifferent ukrainians who help with every penny armies that have realized that it is necessary to prepare their own army, because if not, it will have to feed someone else

's army, and we have proven in education that we are one, we are one , and we are a free country of courageous countries that believed in recent history, which country will definitely overcome the terrorist regime, victory it will be difficult, but it will definitely come because development is our holiday and we will definitely win thank you thank you vitaliy markiv officer of the operational assignment battalion named after general kulchytsky of the national guard of ukraine his congratulations on defender's day a-a and to the defenders, what is also important, and also about the situation, in particular, in the direction where the crown of brothers is located, eh, indeed, during these months, the ukrainian army has shown that it is capable of ending the professional army of the russian federation, our commander-in-chief promises us soon we will end the armed forces of ukraine

from the amateur one, as they say, but at the same time, we will also recall an important episode that was actually a response to the actions of the russian president and the russian federation, this signing applications for our membership in the perspective of the north atlantic alliance we had several people's deputies on the phone today who asked us how we are actually moving in the context of internal homework, it is possible and uh, we hear some kind of answer from nato itself, which would could have read about this, they told us that everything was somehow muffled on our way out, you know, they signaled to us that many things happen in private, most likely, in any case, it is also nice to realize that if we are not yet in nato, nato will do everything in the near future so that we can be like nato, and a ten-year plan for the recovery of the ukrainian defense industry is already being developed, and a series of meetings and

cooperation with the alliance in ukraine will be precisely in this aspect, but mykola, we understand that it is not only a military the political alliance and we need to really pay attention to what is happening here and now, we need to change how this work is moving now, well, vitaliy markiv is serving in my kulchytskyi battalion. i just want to say that today i was at the grave of general kulchytskyi and colonel sokolenka from the same unit at the lychakiv cemetery, where many ukrainian heroes are buried, we also opened taras zherebetskyi alley in lviv, this is a hero warrior who took out of the ilovai cauldron. now, unfortunately, he died working as a responsible employee in us in european solidarity in the lviv party structure and a very sincere, honest person and i, when i was at the grave of vasyl slipak, when i was at the graves of many people i know, today i felt

it is extremely painful, taras zherebetsky, he worked for the party structure, when it was necessary to go to the front, he fought, and when not, he tried, when there was peace, he tried to change the country, and this is for me an example of a truly responsible citizen, because there is a war and we are needed there defend, but like you, he defeats the whole society , but we saw how they voted now for the recognition of the territorial integrity of ukraine, 143 countries supported us in the un, and it was very good that there were countries that abstained because they did not vote, sometimes it was strange it is clear from the situation that china did not vote, or did azerbaijan not vote, for example , armenia did, that is, the influence of russia on many countries is actually still very strong, but instead, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe was there unanimously, but one person could not refrain from voting in favor of to recognize russia as a terrorist state and this is a very big advance because

when the whole world says that a terrorist state is at war with us and we are the only ones defending ourselves and winning, this speaks of how strong our army is. our army really, if we were, i think it would be the strongest, one of the strongest, maybe after the army of the united states of america, i don’t know, turkey probably still has a strong army, but it would definitely be one of the strongest armies of the nato countries, eh, but really donato, how am i? the european union is taken not only by indicators of military compatibility, but also by democratic compatibility, but we have not yet built democracy to the end, definitely compared to russia, we are a democratic country and we emphasize everywhere that we are different from them that this is a struggle of authoritarianism against democracy, and if there is a struggle of authoritarian regimes, there is iran, which gives drones to ukraine, russia, belarus, against the democratic world, against us, against us, against the united states, which helps us, and we hear

their rhetoric, although the united states does not take part in the war, but it is a war all of them are against these democratic principles, then we should be an outpost for the establishment of democracy in us, there should be a clear distribution of such a distribution of power between e-e law or in the executive judicial branch of government should be effectively judicial the system should be the rule of law, there should be freedom of speech, we should be a model of democracy, and then we would quickly be accepted into nato and the european union, but many representatives of the majority do not have this understanding. they think that it is possible on the wave of military popularity, but it is obvious that during military operations, all people unite around their government and i will be this opposition politician. i also obviously now support president zelensky. although i did not vote for him because he is the president of a warring country, but also believing in victory, i i understand that i would like him to use this support to build strong democratic institutions. and this is not happening, on the contrary,

authoritarian institutions are also being built over time. the country is slowly being reformed. the vessels are independent. freedom of speech is limited. television channels are closed. and this is in no way connected with the military situation , so that those television channels that support the ukrainian front have been closed, instead, crazy money is being thrown at propaganda channels under the guise of propaganda, all this is extremely ineffective people also gather and volunteer for money for the army, and the budget allocates money to various sports associations there, which have nothing to do with the army , but which are close to the authorities and were previously close to the armed forces, allocate huge funds to repair roads where they need to be repaired. well and it is not necessary, sometimes we see when it happens, as it is happening now and twice where it is even more expensive than it costs . in fact, for six months, because they will not be heated , public higher educational institutions and private ones will solve these issues themselves. and how many people

left our country and western countries take our students with pleasure, they say come to us for free who will live in us, who will rebuild the country and how to tell about us in the west we don't shoot movies, we don't set up films for filming, how to talk about ourselves in our country, well, a lot of people have completely natural reactions to the information policy here, which formally conducted on behalf of the state, well, people simply stop watching. i'm not saying this because i represent the espresso tv channel, and i believe that we do our work better, but simply. do they not understand that this is the preservation of the information process can play an extremely dangerous role in the game and for them, it will play a dangerous role for them. they do not understand this. but the most important thing is that we as a society have to explain it to them, because it is, after all , the media and the country is not only for them, it is a media country for the citizens, a large part of whom are themselves are fighting or their relatives are fighting or you are not

helping the front and these people deserve fair treatment and for the state to do everything so that the victim is less and the role of cultural education in the future is certainly very important because it will be necessary for those people who left here because if we have such a quasi-totalitarian or authoritarian regime, it's not that they won't accept us into the european union, russia will continue the war again, but now they want a truce tactically so that they retreat, and vitaly mark is absolutely right about this spoke and ours are advancing, they want to freeze all this, stop it, then re-prepare and re-enter the attack, i hope that this will not happen, that we will throw them out of our territories, but then the country will have to be rebuilt, someone must do it, and the people who left must return, and they will return only when they are to have hope that there will be democracy here and it will be here and if investors will have such hope, because not only foreign countries should help us, private investments should come to a country with a judicial system like ours they won't come, and then where will they go? why should these people

return? so we will be weak. and all the time there will be a temptation in russia to attack us. and we can not allow that. well, we agree that we lacked something, you know, to go from the regime of war to the regime of internal ruin. we are joined by father andriy zelinsky , military chaplain, priest of the ukrainian greek catholic church, public figure, glory to ukraine, eyes. we congratulate you on this triune holiday , today's great one, we congratulate you. military chaplain, and at the same time we understand the situation our army is in and what awaits us all, respectively, father, what important steps are needed now to help the army do its extremely difficult work. glory to ukraine, too , to ukrainians on the occasion of defender of ukraine day,

defenders and defenders of ukraine above all else, of course, today's holiday prompts us to certain thoughts that can offer answers to the already posed question, we are talking to you about a holiday that ukrainians celebrate for a long time period of the long state-building process in our state with you, we talk first of all and of course about the patronage of the holy mother of god, but today we also mention the ukrainian cossacks and the creation of the ukrainian insurgent army . i allowed myself to fold my hand when it was necessary to act, to fight, but i did not allow myself to stop fighting when external circumstances demanded it. so, we are strong, but the time in which we live in this time, which requires from

we oppose and opposition demands from us the opportunity to become stronger. i really wanted to concentrate on this bed today in today's time during today's - this is precisely about the challenge that should make us and you stronger and we can do it only when we support each other of course, in the armed forces of ukraine, of course, there are other military formations and the national guard, the state border service and people who are involved in the defense of the ukrainian land. today, the ukrainian people are being destroyed, but we can still be with you. stronger, and this is probably the most important thing to remember today, the matter of strength starts from everyone's heart, true strength starts with the deep responsibility of everyone from the personal touch of the front

. to take the right place in the destiny of our state and our people and do everything we can and do it not alone but also together as one big team of the ukrainian people. therefore, do not let your own light fade away help others find their own strength personally strength and jointly develop unite and temper and accordingly try not to allow ourselves once again under those conditions and under those circumstances in which we become weaker today it is our time it is time to become stronger so literally at the end of the previous year of the verkhovna rada in ukraine, a law was passed on the military chaplaincy service, but the military chaplaincy service itself was launched just recently, on october 4,

deputy minister of defense hanna malyar announced this i would immediately like to ask how it now regulates your work, what does it give to our soldiers at the front, well, first of all, to say that there is no launch date, there is a date for the adoption of the law of ukraine on the service of military cabal service from november 1, later in march and there was one more, and he is, there is also a whole series of by- laws that came into force recently, and that is why we can talk to you about the fact that the service of military chaplaincy in the armed forces of ukraine is already active in the national state guard the border service is in the process, but today we are talking to you for the first time about the ukrainian military chaplain as an officer, in particular we are talking about the armed forces, that is, we are talking about that, first of all, about international standards, about the same

nato standards, if you wish, the military chaplain is now so integrated into the life of a military unit that can really effectively and qualitatively fulfill the mission of a military chaplain, be there, will be there where a ukrainian soldier needs support, precisely so that the force does not flow in order that the light is not always in order to always open a new national volume in accordance with the law of ukraine on the service of military chaplaincy and in accordance with all the subordinate regulatory acts that have now entered into force in the armed forces of ukraine, in the units there is an officer position and e-e clergymen who come who receive the so-called mandate for the right to carry out e-e chaplaincy military chaplaincy activities come to military units already as officers. this is very difficult the procedure is actually the first time in the history of independent

ukraine, and i usually like to call this law such an example of institutional decommunization, the state very clearly prioritizes the freedom and human rights of the citizen of the one who believes in the one who believes that the language of limited freedom in the conditions of military service is everything has the right to freedom of conscience to his religion, and so the state creates all the necessary opportunities in order to take care of the rights and freedoms of citizens of ukraine who are in military service service can be now really, as i already said next to last briefly er well, there is an opinion that er not enough ministers who are at the front are treated with a certain respect even the enemy even the enemy very often happened when there were testimonies of

how ukrainian military chaplains received is it possible, for example, to take away the bodies of our soldiers or to take away the wounded, ah, how is the situation now, can there be any contact for these humanitarian purposes, or do they neglect this with us? we already have more than one example when at first there were prisoners, and we had chaplains who died as well, and even recently, we will also look for opinions on the matter, because i did not become such a person of ulasia. moreover, we now see military chaplains who were surprised, on the other hand, it is very difficult to call them a chaplain, because he is actually a propagandist and in them, the only function is this kind of propaganda of the kremlin, therefore, trust is too much. i would say in this case,

however, that the chaplain can and should have authority, in particular, first of all, and most importantly, among the military personnel among whom he carries out his service thank you father andriy zelinsky military chaplain priest of the ukrainian greek catholic church public figure thank you for your service for what you do for our defenders, we remind you that the guest of our studio is mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, mr. mykola, it's important how i had a conversation on this day, and in particular it was about what has changed in ukrainian legislation so that these people can have a certain functionality and fulfill their task, which is very important at the front, and all this work that seems could be imperceptible to an ordinary ukrainian, but it is very good that it was well made at one time, it is true, well, we had chaplains from the first days of the war and we all know them and communicated with them. they still went to the front, but obviously

this activity had to be normalized there were always questions about how, again, representatives of the russian church can also be military commanders, and they can, and that was the reason why we debated this law for so long and reached some kind of compromise solution, but there are also things that need to be corrected we saw yesterday, you probably saw on social networks, uh, such a russian priest in quotation marks who, with uh, well, from some military anti-tank device or a grenade launcher , shoots in the direction of the ukrainian troops while standing in a row, obviously he doesn't look like a priest, he doesn't look like a soldier, he looks i apologize for being a clown because a church that calls for killing cannot be called a church, it is actually an ordinary sect. and it is good that we have ukrainian churches and the ukrainian greek-catholic church and the orthodox church ukraine and many protestant churches are roman catholic, that is, all of them. by the way, today, when

we honored the memory of our defenders who died, representatives of ukrainian churches also prayed together. in christian and muslim religions, this is also very important . because we see that there really are many different religions in our country and since representatives of different religions serve in the army and they all support ukraine, well, in any case, now our informational and analytical marathon will be switch to a different format that we will provide some important news. people's deputy mykola knyazhytsky was a guest of our studio, so putin does not see the need for negotiations with biden, they say he does not have a platform, we understand that this happened after biden announced that he will not meet and talk with putin because that biden does not have a platform so that putin does not invent it for himself well, but the application from putin has arrived, or the

united states can impose sanctions against people of countries and companies that supply ammunition of the russian federation or supported by its military-industrial complex, this was stated by the deputy minister of finance oli a de where there is a reference to the press service of the us ministry of finance. which clearly indicates that we are ready to impose sanctions on people, companies or countries that supply ammunition to russia or support the russian military-industrial complex, very important signals in my opinion for those countries which exactly help the russian federation is in the fight with ukraine well, in mykolaiv, rescuers retrieved the body of the last sixth victim from under the rubble, the search operation is considered complete

, it is about the rubble of the residential building where a russian rocket hit on october 13, 2:30 p.m., they retrieved the body of the last victim, mykolaivskyi reports the mayor, mr. sienkovych, in general, the bodies of six dead people were unblocked from the rubble of the building, well, that's the end of our broadcast with antin, we'll see what we'll be here from monday, thank you, antin varkovskiy well, in a few moments, our colleagues from radio svobody will continue the broadcast, stay with the press in the future. next week in kherson, the occupation authorities of the kherson region announced the evacuation of the population, and the publication fainenshe-time reports that ukrainian forces can liberate kherson next week, how realistic are such forecasts