we are like the headquarters of the democratic forces in the presidential office, there is a huge number of requests for relaxation we have special structures that are engaged abroad, a lot of belarusians are leaving, and businessmen and young people not because everyone perfectly understands the threat of mobilization, they do not want to participate in this war, we are just as well asked these questions of our partners and possible green corridors, if lukashenko does not announce a tougher principled mobilization in the country, it is possible or not, it can lead to a certain collapse in the system, if, for example, this is belarus, russia, if 100,000 men leave the territory of belarus temporarily, or lukashenko closes the border, then this is a collapse, if he does not even close the border, they will leave quite quickly and a lot, this is also a collapse, in any case, there is a shock. lukashenko is really afraid of this he's afraid, so he's trying to smooth things out until he manages to control the situation, well, in society, i wouldn't say that there's overstrain, but tension. thank you

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war with olga leni tuesday, thursday at 11:40 and friday at 13:00 on the espresso tv channel, we continue the saturday political club angelika season and vitaly portnikov and in this hour we will talk about such topics as whether the turkish president erdoğan will be able to persuade ukraine to negotiate with the russian federation, we will also talk about why elon musk and the spacex company have decided not to provide free starlink satellite communication to ukraine anymore , we will also discuss the interesting president who is currently being considered in the gai court for the conviction of the roma propagandist for the genocide of the tutsi ethnic group, which was

destroyed in 1994, and we will also talk about how the russian federation now he is trying to blackmail the world and in particular the un with grain, so let's start with erdogan , now president erdanyan has instructed the relevant ministry and his countries to develop a plan for in order to build a new gas hub like this, and in this way, the russian federation will allegedly be able to refuse the ukrainian pipeline through which gas goes to europe, and mr. vitaliyovych, don’t you think that this is , well, in a certain way, such a betrayal on the part of erdogan, because ukraine receives money from of the russian federation for the passage of gas through the pipeline and from the european union, respectively, according to the contracts, well , several thesis, first of all, the president defends his interests against ours, and by the way , german politicians always said this too when we told them

that we receive money for the transit of gas and they will receive they said, well, we will receive about this business and we always said that for you it is not a business but a war in europe, they did not agree with this, but on the other hand, i never believed that they if it would be normal, he is a normal business, the situation is a normal business environment, well, we didn't have the opportunity to invest in alternative gas supply routes, no one thinks that transit is a role that is fixed to receive under some kind of side agreement, yes, that is, if you say, we are poor country we need money for this, so you don't need a lot of it, it looks very strange, you know how you come to someone at work and say because you get a higher salary, i get less, and why does it go and if you do something else i will still get even less come on it's better you don't do this, just sit quietly, you're sad. and i'll work for the time being, so this is certainly not the right approach. but

honestly, it seems to me that it cannot be assumed for sure that in the event that a hub appears in turkey, russia will be able to refuse the ukrainian transport systems because we in principle, they always calculated mathematically that the gas that russia transports to europe, in order to abandon the ukrainian gas transportation system, it is necessary to build nord stream one , it is necessary to supply nord stream-2, there must be a turkish stream, and there must be control over the belarusian gas transportation system, only these four conditions creates the amount of gas that europe needs, but there is another point. right now, europe does not need that amount of russian gas. germany has already announced today that it filled its storage by 95% yesterday without russian gas, which means that it is obvious that the process of europe's rejection of russian gas will happen faster than they planned for themselves

because they just see what is happening, you know , and that's why i don't really understand what erdoğan wants from life he wants to build, i can tell you what i want to build, he wants to build the illusion of his genius with geopolitics before the presidential parliamentary elections in turkey, because now he is heavily influenced by the opposition, the opposition has not yet put forward its the only candidate for the presidential elections of turkey, it is obvious that if she nominates it can change the situation for the benefit of the hearts, it means a lot to the personnel but nevertheless, this is the first election in which the party is perfect, exactly perfect, the situation in the economy of turkey, well, every person who follows the exchange rate of the turkish lira i don't know if you follow all the people who all the people who go to turkey from time to time, they follow the exchange rate of the turkish lira, their eyes crawl on lobo, the turkish lira asked for more than uah without any war, this connected with the economic voluntarism of

erdoğan himself, it means that he has to do, he essentially followed the path of putin under putin, the russians always said that we never lived as well as they did, now they live abominably from an economic point of view, the turks also never lived so well under zayavdogan he is just the author of the turkish economic miracle, which he himself buried well, now he is needed instead of a miracle, but putin instead of money offers the russians an increase in territory, a war, erdogan instead of money, i want to offer turkey peace, that he is a person who is the author of peace and this gas hub is such an illustration of its capacity, it is not by chance that you all know what the first columns of turkish newspapers about the government looked like on the day when dogan returned, stop, oh, we will heat the whole world, it sounds beautiful, what did the first columns of opposition turkish newspapers look like, we must join democracy because ardagan that the very day when he talks about the gas hub, he wants to make changes to the constitution and

laws that would allow persecution for the internet to limit the internet before the elections. experts write about the fact that it is impossible to build this hub, to be honest, technically it is very expensive , we have to spend many years, not that it is impossible, but it is expensive and long. as for the investments, what will the technology be, what is russia, if they are all under sanctions , what technologies will turkey use to build its own it's all a million questions in chinese, and that's why erdoğan allegedly says it specifically so that somehow he can appease the president. and how do you say the electorate, well, he suggested, he said. well, that 's great, we're investigating it now. but it's also interesting. look, he basically went to astana , what was the main idea to talk to putin about this format, russia, the usa, great britain

, france and germany, we are talking about the formation with ukraine, he did not talk about ukraine at all, about victory, what are you? give me back, putin has been talking about negotiations for a long time i am putting zelensky at the negotiating table, now he has stopped talking about it at all , because it became clear that the topic has exhausted itself. well, if zelensky signs a decree that there will be no negotiations with putin, i don’t say i put him at the negotiating table, he doesn’t look like that anymore, that ’s what new idea means and detailed it from the publication, it’s so close to a reprimand, then the representatives of rodogan’s party began to say, “they are already preparing in istanbul.” are interested, and here it turned out that no one is interested, that president biden said that i do not want to talk to putin, the europeans turned out to be absolutely not ready to even discuss this topic, putin, who, in principle, you understand, obviously wants to told us in the first part of the program viktor yagun

is eager for these negotiations because he needs a truce but at the same time he knows how this petty robber who received a million and still climbs into the tram for his wallet if putin wanted dogan talked to him about something real, he should definitely refrain from these missile attacks, because it is not surprising that you absolutely demonstratively fire at yourself agent objects of civil infrastructure, you admit it, you talk about it, so it flows, there are some targets left, we hit them, but could you talk to me about peace? peace is very important. well, somehow it all looks strange . that is how this topic became the topic of negotiations. in principle, it seems to me that the russians have been talking about this since february. they do not need any negotiations.

all negotiations are just a waste of time . what they can agree to in the negotiations is that we recognize their territorial possessions along with the measure of vitaly delaying the time in order for some military experts to start preparing for a new offensive with greater force in 2023 to this question, medusa, well, it’s absolutely logical for this, you don’t even need an expert. to be honest, if you have recruited 200 or 300,000 of them mobilized there, and if you don’t have enough equipment, then you need to stop, prepare people, collect equipment and strike. and what did we do wrong? she it was already comfortable, after which an operation began that led to the liberation of kharkiv oblast, and now the offensive in the south continues because we could prepare people, and this is also very important . western equipment appeared and allowed us with great from a distance to destroy russian positions, well, the russians

saw it, didn't they need it blind, they can call it a truce, they can say that now they just want to stop russia's destruction of the civilian population, but they betray themselves because if they really wanted to to stop the destruction of the civilian population, they should not have destroyed the objects of civilian infrastructure if they are doing the opposite . he explains the mobilization differently. he says that the mobilized people are needed in order to guard the border with ukraine, the border is so big that there are not enough people because everyone is dying on this border, but he changes his rhetoric so quickly, but the russians, as they say, they eat me, it's so strange they said in russian to the authorities that a month of training will be given to the mobilized, as they are called by mobs in our country. yes , but as a result, one day and let's go to the front and they

die, the cell under the image of yes, that's it. the principles of the post-soviet government when you refute yourself every day with such a convincing facial expression are not introduced because putin says that he will prepare the moon mobilized the question is that he recently said that there would be no mobilization, then mobilization was announced , now he says that it will stop in two weeks, he all the time refutes his own information, but i think this can only happen in an authoritarian country where people say, well, he can already see why, i heard it a million times in russia when i was just asking the question how do you listen to ordinary people? don't you think that it's like a pit with an anthem? don't you think that it

smells bad from there? you've all gone there in hell. and it's in the middle of your street. don't you think that it's somehow strange? looks like well, the answer is simple, well, they can see it better there, don't you think that people on the mountain can make mistakes and be stupid? they didn't get there by accident, well, let her say completely by accident, completely by accident. and if society has such a consciousness, i'll tell you right away that such the consciousness of the vast majority of russians, and i don’t know if you can be surprised by this, you know from the other side. when serfdom was abolished in the russian state in 1861, the storyteller returns to the dates of how many generations passed from that time to bolshevism, there was one, in fact, two. then there was the soviet system, which made people exactly like that serfs, you know that russian peasants, in general , peasants in the soviet union already began to

receive passports after 1975 until 1985, the majority of the rural population of the soviet union and the rural population made up about 60-70% of the population there before the second world war, they did not have passports , they could not leave the border of their own district of the village of the collective farm, even to turn it into some positive feature of theirs what they are proud of for the land, it is not going anywhere on social networks especially a lot, and i took her out and never went anywhere. yes , listen. if you have a dog, you put it on a chain near the house. she sits there by herself. i don't want her anywhere and here this phrase comes to me, we are well fed here, well

, the witnesses have gone. this is whose folklore is non-idenezian, not ukrainian . said unmotivated arrogance, it has its roots in serfdom. by the way, the most i would say is that thinkers of russia always said that you can't even imagine how it will turn out in our lives. when big cities are created in our country and, unlike europe, on serf peasants who do not get freedom work in the enterprises of these cities, that is, what was the point of civilization in the european one, if you run away there, of course you work there for some lord baron, er, you are exploited there, but why did you run away to ugu and run to the city to close the door under this harrow says get out of here, this is our man, he will work for us at the enterprise and he is free because he is here with us and if you want, we will fight the whole

city with you and the baron had to agree and that's how free people appeared, and in russia they not appeared yes and when they decided in the 17th year that they would simply cut off all the rich people, then others appeared who put them on the chain again and they again agreed with it . this kind of struggle is situational because you and i are conducting, let's say, a broadcast from a city where there has never been such a thing. in fact, centuries have already been forgotten in this part of ukraine, which was part of the russian empire. there was magdeburg law in the cities here in kyiv. do you remember the mygdaburg law because it is not was granted, not a single city of russia had even a body of this magdeburg right, and two cities that were large trading cities were part of the hanseatic union, the great mountains of debsk were simply destroyed completely so that even the memory of it did not remain in the population. what do you want from such a country, why you smoke that she is like that she

should be like that, you can't do that, you know how to wave a magic wand, now you mean all those centuries old that you sat in the den, we all refute you all, you are already like the english how many french people did the french go there, how many revolutions did they die in order to be free people? i would say in bunches. well, how many of us were these words, so absolutely, the russians still have a long time to turn from slaves into free people, do you remember, anton , that you have to squeeze them drop by drop, you have to a i never look at why drop by drop, how much do you want to squeeze it, it is the same impression that a person is some kind of tube with cream, i am about to squeeze a drop of grass no, this is a person, it is not a cosmetic product, she either refuses to change she will think that it means to renounce slavery, it is like applying suntan cream, then she

will still walk tanned, an incredible comparison , as always ms. vitalya. and let's talk about how slaves blackmail people. putin invented a new blackmail and now the grain corridor wants to suspend this agreement. i will remind you that in july of this year it was signed and became operational . this border, accordingly, exports a-a grain and other food crops from ukraine. now the trial is going on and they come out almost every day and it's great because we provide for african countries and europe, but it's interesting that the russians lie as always and they say and we want to stop it because ukraine is not fulfilling the terms of this agreement and first of all he continues to wage war there, so to speak, and on the other hand, he

supplies african countries, but simply supplies to europe, although this is absolutely not true, you understand here. the question is that putin is running from side to side all the time like a pendulum because, on the one hand, he wants blackmail the world from the other side all the time. we can't fully calculate what the consequences of his blackmail will be, and with this grain - it's an obvious situation. why did he get to paska? he thought that he would create famine in the global south . the great migration crisis in europe , people will again run to europe in large numbers. when they will run, it will change . european governments will come to power, those who will agree with him, everything was fine . with this, he obviously did not want to spoil relations with those countries that support him, because this is a blow to turkey - it is a gift to china, it is a blow to africa for

huge investments in africa. a public signal, i told about it already then. so when there was this story about hunger, the public signal was that two african former presidents of liberia, michael johnson, serhii, o-o-o, bassanja jonsoli , in general, of the nobel line, they wrote an article to be carried out under the name of russian and african victims of the russian war, and it should not be in the text, but to understand that world politics is created from such signals. that is, it became clear there that africa understands exactly who wants to destroy it with hunger, and that this is not ukraine and that this is not the west, but it is precisely russia putin gave back, these negotiations with avdogan and the un regarding the earth agreement began, but now it looks like this, but already in the last one. it seems to me like this in the

last one. putin speaks suddenly after a meeting with a norwegian, in which he says oh director beautiful agreement, you are a good man, he comes to the podium and says that if we find out that explosives to destroy the crimean bridge were transported on a grain truck, we can think further about this agreement, that it may contradict our security, that this means that he decided for himself that it might be worth sacrificing after all these relations with the global under and provoke hunger if there is no other way to win , the stakes have already risen again, you already want to win even at the cost of worsening your relations with developing countries on the one hand he has not adopted this decision yet, but he left for himself the possibility of adopting it any day, and we wake up there, let's say in a week or

two, putin comes out as if he is coming in a frenzy . in the form of grain, explosives were brought to the function of months and then he repeats this that everyone clearly understood the deferment, it is not clear what the investigative committee of the russian federation reported that the explosives were transported by a grain truck under the flag of such a country, but in fact it was the flag of the sbu and we are thus stopping this agreement until further resolution of the issues of ensuring security during the transportation of grain is possible we will need to inspect these grain trucks more carefully there may be something else, but they can invent it at any second and then the grain agreement will simply stop will be suspended and will not start again. i believe that

after what he said last time, it means that he already has a plan on the table and the only question is whether he is involved because some other forces can intervene, you can say why call some rem on the mod and it is said that i am sorry that you will not sell zno, we will not buy oil and this may be a restraining factor . in order to gain an advantage and advantages are not obtained, that's why he usually rushes, i said that in some extremes, in others he is actually already in a difficult situation, you really understand him, as we discussed at the beginning, he really needs to stop stop it would be possible to start negotiations if he did not annex the territory after annexation of territories, it is not at all clear what to talk about with him, which means that negotiations are out of the question, but it is necessary to stop, if there is no

way out in this situation, then there is only blackmail, which he later got used to, but it does not work, that is, nuclear blackmail, this would also be discussed, the essay began nuclear blackmail and suddenly they began to tell him what he still counted on me too. it is important that you and i talk about it because we i think that we did not explain it very clearly before the first part of the program, i do not think that zazhebarel said that putin did not blocks when he talks about nuclear weapons, he absolutely does, that was a sarcastic phrase, oh we don't know if putin is bluffing or not maybe he failed but we won't bluff either, we'll just destroy his army in case of using nuclear weapons and then putin will never have to again you won't have to bluff because there won't be any armed forces. that's it. vladislav well, please , that is, in order to find out whether it's a bluff or not. we can simply destroy his army and there will be no more tools for bluffing, well, putin absolutely

obviously he didn't want to hear that, he can't. when macron says it, when borel says it, when the relevant text appears in the reuters agency with a reference to a source in nato, when it is actually said by the nato secretary general, you understand that it is even difficult to hide many things from putin. this information monitoring of putin does not get what he did not transmit. yes, of course we saw it. we see it from the statements he says. it is like cosmonauts, but this is when such rich information cannot be hidden from him himself fact and well, they simply won't risk it because then you know it's the same risk, you'll risk it, he'll really press a button somewhere something will fall somewhere and then bang and where is my army and you know, but they're all gone and we were warned in october they didn't tell me oh, well, we thought that it didn't matter, and what do you want to say about it, and some army

vladimir vladyvovich would end up a failure for such a person, so he knows it and look at the rhetoric of changes changed quite quickly, piskov said well, the kerch place is the exact place to find out nuclear it's not weapons. what? what's a ghost? what must be the reason for the kremlin to go to the kremlin to explode, that's already a reason. putin says, oh, you understand, a nuclear war is a complete disaster. everyone must understand that, so we can't repeat it, so what ? remember what he said a month ago that the united states created a precedent by bombing its collections, we ordered it, that is another rhetoric, that is, he understood that this is not possible to blackmail, because the consequences may not be as i expect, so what remains is the cold and the goal of gold. well, how

the cold can of course be tried in ukraine er provoke it he does it but you understand that the infrastructure of survival in such a situation is still taking into account the existence of the west it will work out and once again it will create a huge wave of aid in the west because imagine what i told you about today's text in the university times on the primacy of women, of course , women, how they were raped before death, someone was hanged there, an elderly woman and it's been two years, it's unknown for what reason, a religious ethnic russian woman in which the whole er, the whole house is books of classic russian literature. she collected all her life, an intelligent woman, you understand, and she was killed by russian soldiers, a woman who read pushkin lermontov tolstoy all her life, she was such a bearer of such russian culture, and these people, the barbarians on the maidan, the meaning of which language was removed from the right beginning of the cheekbone of the unfortunate

i am a poor woman, a retired doctor, but for americans , you can understand the picture itself. a female doctor who helped people all her life, who was a grandmother for his grandson, she raised her relatives and they hanged her for what is not in my head , and now imagine the city is still freezing, it will be the same, the stories themselves and the determination of the institution to help will increase, maybe resources not enough of their own