weapons and help with everything possible, except for the usual military aid, because here, no matter how russia tries to present the situation in such a way that the whole world is fighting against it, in fact it is not so, because if even just the united states of america fought against it, russia would already there would not be a wet spot left, but you are fighting in the world in a slightly different way, because the world is in the 21st century and not in the 18th, where mr. putin is, and what is happening now seems to me similar to the system of traps that were set for putin and once by the way, this thought led me to the question , jason, what do you think, which of the traps set for putin will work first, there will be sanctions, there will be a military defeat on the battlefield here in ukraine, thanks to that the weapon that gives the western peace of ukraine, it is possible that there will

be some international global processes, such as the exclusion of russia from all possible international organizations, the surrender of the status of a state sponsor of terrorism the trap will be deadly for putin, as you choose, we will take a short break, i will repeat my question to jason, jason, yes. what do you think, which of the traps set for putin will be the first to work? it's just for the un or something else, let's go that it will be a lot of things that work together as a debt things that cause so many problems you dews that were already impossible to continue with putin and i think that's what a day actually is, it's a good day, you can drink what you yourself the russians will be his brother, then do it, i expect that this will be the end of him, and this will be shaky, and

they asked him to mow , it is impossible to continue. on the pistons, they are the ones that he blamed for you, and you say, i’m not stupid, god’s sake, we’re better, and he’s crying, so he went to war to enter the measure from the fact that you vote, he’s not a tokyo mobilization, and not just a wind that everything will stop getting worse and worse and how bad is he for you, vladimir vladimirovich and nastya so that he would no longer be the president of russia. well, even the same mobilization , statistics show that they barely gathered under a hundred thousand people mobilized there, but at the same time, more than a million russians, healthy young educated men, left the borders of russia, fleeing from this mobilization, at the same time, putin takes the podium and says we unite russia, we

unite the world, we put his speech on applause and in the agreed process of young, healthy, capable men who are the basis of the economy of these parades, meetings, the camera is at 180°, so we will see thousands of people with suitcases moving towards the russian border in order to leave this country forever, of course, it falls by only eight percent , but by the way, it is interesting that mobilization statistics, a million men have fled and some european countries have already banned the entry of russian men who are fleeing from mobilization, but america did not prohibit it, she says well, we accept in principle, we do not prohibit , your position is interesting, after all, many people and men fled from mobilization and to america, what is yours position, what is the position of america, i think they are now in america, i would have expected that very little, in fact, well, the first one is just very far, very difficult

. who is the cabinet - this is belarus from the wet border of the entire country, honest, but to go to america from the dew, and i also did not know how someone could go there, that is, through europe, but also possibly through somewhere, that is, through china, which means how do you pay america in general, where i don't know, that is, i would already be the one that we have five people five or stra, that is, it is very little, if any , but we have already seen how even the representatives of the russian embassy in america behave, who trample sunflowers in front of everyone in front of everyone, well, you can understand even in america how they behave. but masha said about the system of traps and ochen it is interesting to see the role of ergiyana in it. he now spoke with putin. there were official talks and information appeared in the turkish media. turkish laughter is not a turkish tv series. how did you come up with it? i hope it is true.

общают о том что э-э putin wants to put britain at the negotiating table in the usa and talk about all the european countries and talk about ukraine to solve this question. well, how would ukraine refuse? its future is the end of the war, that is, the la-la of america, and in fact it is not visible at all. and because it is america, and it is their fault. of ukraine who decided this then it is better that ukraine was engaged in this question so that this guy was not to blame and everything was now when i will choose soon, why does it hurt, it is not in the game at all, the best thing is. this story is because, first of all, there is a decision of the national security and defense council, which is already legally established, that ukraine will not negotiate with

putin, and the united states and the eu, and all our friends and partners have repeatedly stated that there will be no negotiations about ukraine without ukraine. i can even take place and well, thirdly, who is ready to sit down at the negotiating table today, from the points, only those countries that you listed, which support the peculiarities of france and germany , well, if we classify the belarusians and north korea as old europe, then yes, but i think that this is such a series, there is no internet, there is no sense. who needs to negotiate with a country that is one step away from defeat, so they are now scaring everyone with nuclear weapons, but we can already see from the reaction of the world that no one takes it too much, with some in a state of panic as it was before, well, except for elon's mask, of course. and all the others are already perceived quite calmly, because

apparently, uh, world leaders have some certain levers in order to simply warn of this blow, not in order to react somehow later, but simply in order to make a series of warnings putin or his entourage such that they really react and here by the way, the warning of joseph borel, the head of european diplomacy, was one of them, who said that the response of the european union could be military even more, it seems to me even more important is the position of the united states of america jason. do you think that the united states can or can or than respond by military means in the event of a nuclear strike, tactical or demonstration, or something else ? respond by military means, i think that there is, and there will be such a, well, terroristic

, so that this bomb will be used to destroy america, and america, that first it will be a very strong answer, it will be just some kind of diplomatic writing. and this is it it's a first and serious thing than it's not a very good person and you know it's like she's always even more that you're always helping me what well it was very strictly written very serious words well what are you giving but no, i think that there are americans i would destroy the black sea fleet, the black sea fleet, and i will go first. why did they destroy all the russian pauses, and you are crimea? well, all of them you scored it easily. well, it takes 25 minutes, you can implement it, and then, as you know, the americans can simply destroy the

russian army and the navy and submarines. it’s 45 minutes, and it can take a lot of time. how much to do it yourself, if it will be enough for a demonstration, then we will tell you, er, a winter island, or where there are oceans, let’s give it one er, when it will be. -to lesu so this is the second well there is this is already a city that i don’t expect it to be presented, and then i will think that such a reaction from america would be very serious, very harsh, well, we are now discussing a nuclear strike, you are sitting in ukraine, biden said to leave as an american, you did not leave, you are not afraid no, i i'm naughty hahaha i really am if there are countries in the world that today have this wonderwaffle, as we say on the air, some kind of super weapon that can

really hit something unexpectedly quickly and most importantly qualitatively, then it really is the united states that the level of technological development of russia and the united states cannot even be compared with it, but when you talked about elena's mask, i had a thought, and why is a person talking about the colonization of mars by other planets, he is so afraid to stay on it in the event of a nuclear attack, it was not part of his plans , he just helped with the entire arrangement of neighboring planets and you are the only person on the planet who knows how it is done before this, that is, somehow you did not have time to prepare for this colonization and here all his plans can destroy putin you call raptoloid, you know, again, from the 18th century, because this is the actual question that i wanted to

ask jason. how did we even get to this point, how could it even happen, i can't understand it, putin , you know it all, and you know it, how there are always problems, and i see that the main problems here are, this time, putin means that it is necessary to remove it and sell it. well, it will be easier for everyone . why is he where? you know, for two years, it seems that he was er and did not communicate with very few people, he was there, and he was there, he was a homeless person, far from everyone. it speaks there well, how it

only speaks on skype, let's say but through for two years now, the video conference has not been shared with anyone at all, and they don’t get all the information at all, and i think that the former boshey shyol experience went along dasha and dasha ’s lines. here i still have nasambria and think think and ego go there is that radical one and for the sake of horses and for the sake of horses his croup is there pythons they are all such people kakan we are all radicals people who clearly believe such things that is the russian world to sow things and not really believe it and ana already says this himself i honestly don't think it's just a show you just go like this. you who honestly seriously believe the things that he says that he can still be the leader, think that he will win here and i or he is not all that is not whitewashed as we look. well, this is one of the versions of the fact that putin has lost his mind and manages it all, don't report yourself and everything will be fine, but i like it very much. another version of the fact that

russia is actually being deliberately led to collapse due to a set of these absurd decisions. yes, the war was absurdly started. then when this has absolutely no military meaning, what weakens the external world of beauty, weakening the russians within the country, both to the existing power and to the external world, thus pushing russia to revolution in order to destroy it completely. such a theory does not seem likely to you in these conditions. well they definitely give everything to go to russia didn’t exist and well, i, i, i’m sorry if such a game strategy is just there, there’s a lot of work. just absolutely the energy infrastructure of ukraine happened on october 10, on the same day

, a meeting was held where the assembly was held, on the same day, a meeting of the congress. a new package of military aid and we received what we had been going to for 2 months and asked give give give give me i expected that it was activated by something completely opposite no but here is the logic conducts this shelling in order to help ukraine in general, this is also, i also do not know how the solution is there, where the kremlin is, that is, the guards 25, and i have been working for the russian opposition for 15 years, and i have this fortereval from the dew of 2000 i've read a lot of putin and i don't even know how to explain what's happening now, it's simple, it's not, it 's completely logical, yes, a complete overview, and i'm doing everything

so that russia just dies angela, it's all the same bunch of fracas in russia, in fact, it's time for putin andrey he was asking for the death of this country. come on, i just think that he was counting on something completely different. it's just that we, sitting here, don't understand how the brains of the russians themselves are built. i just watched their tv show there. well, that's an unpleasant habit and i saw what they said, they were counting on that that ukraine is afraid that these strikes on the energy infrastructure cold and darkness frighten ukrainians so much that they are literally one step away from leaving and signing the capitulation, that is, they prefer to live in the world of their illusions you understand, they don't give themselves, they don't understand what the situation is in reality. they think that what is happening now is that these attacks and desires will drive us into the cold and into the dark, and in november there will be a summit of the

big twenty at the ball and they will seat zelensky and putin at the negotiating table, what do you think? there is a connection between the shelling that is going on now and the pressure on ukraine and the fact that negotiations can still take place. i have already read that i don’t want to talk about the book in 30 years, sir, and it’s important. that’s important, when there ’s some bad decision, there’s some negotiation. and what’s necessary, and how many degrees i will show it to me, show that there will be no results. that’s me. honestly, no, i don’t think it’s anything but the same 20, well , it’s just because usually there is a two-sided apartment between america and russia. and these are the signs that led to the negotiations. sam koga pereusi kak

explain why do you stay behind bayun ето лючеся до его вы общения общащаться одны избавыном а и миссии зеленском низки well, that is, russian propagandists, russian propagandists, they will sell this meeting in the information space , saying that the usa is ready to negotiate with russia and is ready to give ukraine, and you pray the meeting biden met but with their children biden came to the ball in order to meet putin and in the united states they will play and the republics will tremble the opposite story that biden also went to meet putin and shows its weakness, that is, these negotiations will only bring harm to ukraine. russia is desperately looking for a way, at least in any way, to agree on some kind of honorable peace. there is no way there. it does n’t seem to me that we are talking about any kind of victory, we are talking about at least some kind of honorable peace so that they

leave it there. for themselves well, let's say crimea, and everything else, in principle, they seem ready to give in. leave only crimea to us, and that's all. in fact , it seems to me that they are already ready to sign under this, but at the same time to get kherson before that, that's what with him agreed to this negotiation. of course, ukraine will not do this because it is not in the interests of ukraine to cede the territory of work, of course it is not in the interests of the united states. they understand from them in the united states that putin's declarations are creating blackouts in ukraine and we are on the air, by the way. weeks on the power grid in and the usual electrical appliances in order to give our energy workers the opportunity to contain and restore part of this destroyed

infrastructure, this is very important friends, we emphasize this in every broadcast although there is good news about the energy infrastructure, it was built in soviet times and although i am not a supporter we have to thank this soviet heritage here, because they were soviet data and all these energy facilities were built with the expectation of a nuclear strike, and it is thanks to this that they can withstand a lot now and you can, of course, turn off the light for a few hours in a certain part of the region somewhere, but the light, but let’s agree, it’s not something that will make ukraine capitulate, even in general, full of darkness , they will make ukraine capitulate, even the cessation of what putin is most striving for now is the cessation of the supply of weapons to ukraine as well because i would say kuleb, our minister of foreign affairs, we, then we will fight with shovels if you, if there are no weapons, the soviet soviet system of the soviet transformers will be replaced by european, because the netherlands has already promised us to allocate money for the renewal of this energy

infrastructure, but as our president volodymyr zelenskyi says, putin understands only force, and this force will be shown by our armed forces of ukraine. with the shelling, he is trying to hold back somehow, they are not afraid to simplify, so what is also actively discussed here in the information field to the fullest extent - this is the new world power order balance the struggle between good and evil that existed and the deterrence system that was formed after the second world war has today exhausted itself. everyone is saying that after this war there will be a complete restructuring of the world

security system. the world security system, in fact, i think that everything will be fine if after the war we see a lot. how will it be said that they wanted to build it so that the americans did not have all this ? china, iran, i called the low trumpor. go with fitnen and not another one, it is building its own system, which was the bottom of the abyss. and today, read, but you no longer exist. china does not even help russia. kazakhstan is no longer so close to the orphans. kyrgyzstan does not want to do this military training, it's the work of the countrymen. we believe that you just stood there, what the

president of tajikistan said. today, we know that let's carry that armenia and russia could not protect the army and do not ask for money, and he, what is this ? everything is changing now and quickly, and why it 's good because before the war russia is not going to play any role in the future with a global tractor, but it is a pain - it is not a measure or europe, a huge opportunity. even if you think central asia is good. and you americans how do you remember how do you villa photos probably before that and he started his conflict with azerbaijan, there was a huge portrait of putin in

the capital, the apostle of what came a-ah, the speaker of the us congress, the stripes changed, so putin was removed and now there are american flags, you know that the assembler is in america - this is the first time for 25 years that there is a cluster leak in america, and the opportunity to build its structure around the world will be preserved in the nato format, or it is possible that the united states is there with britain and ukraine, about it too many people say that ukraine and britain can become new centers of world security. there will be some new association or in the format of nato. still, it will be a re-ego reincarnation. vopros, the role of nato will be weakened and ukraine will no longer make sense to strive there, or a woman turnover - it will remain. how is such a constant? well, it is interesting because

before the war, you are going back in time. and australia is japan and different countries there, well, we see. well, what exactly is china's problem, that's what okeansky is playing, and because you understand that dily himself is a serious person, he's a photographer, it's china, it's not russia, that russia is a very weak country. and china has a billion and 300 million people the huge caramelka is simply unreal from this what should be done to protect mine from china and this is the main question from this i would actually expect after the war it will change again - it will be their ocean lions again or a contract there well, what will be the guarantees for ukraine because russia as we understand it even if it will exist in some form and it will exist in some form

, you can get not one state, but several, but it is dark, it will continue to be a threat to what kind of ukraine? in this situation, we should really focus on joining nato, or will it focus on building new bilateral relations, security guarantees, for example, we have a military treaty with great britain and the united states and with other countries that they will want to join and trashy and wash what is nato well, it will not be soon, it seems that this is all that the nato countries are talking about as a secretary, he speaks with his other countries or in europe, and it is very real, it is possible . now i would do it while there is huge support in ukraine, and if there are not especially eight in europe. it will be so interesting new europeans to the package every day you are news this is an opportunity

then in this some common language to write a contract all speak for us the main thing is that ukraine will definitely be a part of this new world collective security center and without individual nothing will happen because for the first time we have demonstrated who has the second army in the world, and maybe the first in terms of practical application. and we have shown that we know how to fight and ukraine will occupy a proper position. i think it is a very leading role in the european security sector, so we cannot claim for some world role, but we can definitely claim the role of the leader of the region and the role of e-e in the world and in particular in the european security system, and it was nice to hear from our conversation with you today that despite the threat of nuclear even 72% of americans remain with us despite all the threats,

this is nice to hear and 70% of europeans from other countries, despite the fact that russia would very much like the world to be tired of war, it turns out the opposite, the world is consolidating and supports ukraine and this cannot us not to please night watch natalia ostrovska maria vasilievna is in venglinska and we had as a guest american political scientist political technologist jameson jane spartat radio to you unconquered cities of ukraine odessa is a picturesque city on the shore of the black sea since ancient times the territory of modern odessa was a piece of cake for the ottoman empire and the russian empire of nazi germany, and today it is for fascist

russia, not the rashists, don't get on my mother's nerves, she has a ukrainian heart. odessa is unconquered in the morning before or at work . buy a warm scarf with them, part of the money, are you too busy to buy a car or a fairy tale for your neighbor, every day, every step, every act can protect those who protect us, thanks to you, our dear defenders and protectors we smile at each other in the morning, thank you, we always

laughed in the face of the enemies under the tsars, we survived the bullets, we survived the hammer and sickle, we did not lose ourselves, there is no such strength to destroy ukraine, it will not work, and now the rules of a warm country this winter, not a single house is from the edge, the state and cities are doing their best to give cheerful heat our business is to preserve it unite with neighbors insulate your house and your apartment check electrical wiring take care

of alternative means of heating draw up an action plan in an extreme situation help each other let's win the winter together as a patriot, the prison, this is my prison, the teachers were interrogated, a muzzle was attached to the back of the head, ukrainian books were destroyed, literature was being agitated during the occupation, and teachers are agitating to work for the russians, there will be russians