5:10 p.m. repeat at 9:30 p.m. october 25, 2022 zagreb croatia don't miss the broadcast of the national telethon, the only news, the international crimean platform, the first parliamentary summit, we will continue our broadcast on the espresso channel yehor shicherenda and hanna valevska are still with you, we welcome the 14th hour on clock by tautology excuse me and we will now talk about events in china and everything related to china today the 20th congress of the communist party of china opened in the capital of the country, beijing, about two thousand and 300 delegates of the forum that represent 90 million chinese communists, no

matter how many communists there are in china, 90 million communities will summarize the activities of the central committee of the communist party of china for the five years of the previous congress and outline the main directions of the party and the country's activities for the five-year period, well, after all, planning in the soviet union , it was also five years ago that the congress of the communist party of china is a very important formality that will come and take place at a critical moment, a critical moment when the entire party and the people of all ethnic groups embark on a new path of building a modern the socialist country was written by the xinhua agency, the main state agency, so the main motive of the forum will be all kinds of strengthening of the party leadership in all spheres of the political, economic and social life of the country, observers emphasize that the issues of economic development of the chinese economy will also be raised at the congress, which has been seriously affected by the covid-19 pandemic, that is, the chinese leadership continues to adhere to the zero-tolerance policy regarding the coronavirus by introducing strict lockdown measures in disadvantaged in his opinion, the district well and in general, observers agree that serious

changes in china's policy should not be expected as a result of the congress. at the current stage, it is more important for the chinese leadership to maintain stability , avoid shocks and continue the path of development that has already proven its effectiveness, says sinkova. the third is a five-year term, how will it take place, will the vote be or what, since it is happening in russia or not, no, i think the vote will be unanimous. 90 million will vote, so it remains it is possible for another 5 years and there will be a vote, we will ask about it now, a journalist, an international member of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies, will join us and tell us about what remains mysterious about ukraine, the day before they called on their citizens to leave our country as soon as possible

those citizens who are in ukraine have been stopped today. the chinese authorities have turned to them and asked them to leave our country as soon as possible , that is, because there is a serious security situation. they say well, in fact, we have had a serious security situation for eight months, and we know why. well, the egyptian embassy in kyiv also called on its citizens to leave ukraine for security reasons. egypt called on its citizens to leave ukraine as soon as possible , citing the danger that persists in the country 8 months of fighting against russian aggression, all members of the egyptian community on the territory of ukraine are advised to leave by accessible land routes with neighboring countries, the e-e ag message says today, citing the egyptian embassy, ​​egyptian embassies called on their compatriots to exercise maximum caution during departure and departure and not to be in transit in or

near dangerous zones. anyone who decides not to leave ukraine should update their data at the embassy to be aware of any what future information about the events in the country was noted by the information, well, this means that the embassy remains and the chinese embassy remains in kyiv, that is, the situation is not critical, it is not critical for the diplomats, but so it is not critical for the citizens either. well, what did he say? it is already with the grandmother. the guest will ask you about it. oleksiy koval, an international journalist, a member of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies oleksiy, we congratulate you, we congratulate oleksia. that the 20th congress of the communist party of china starts today, what is the next plan for the next five-year plan, will it match the results of the previous one, will it plan the future? well, i am. we also have information that the term of office of the leader of china will be extended there, all xi jinping, in what way, it is interesting, even in what way, we do not know how there is a vote to open the

secret, how is the election of the leader of the head of china taking place, should we expect any changes? the head of the party, not the head of china, you need to understand different things in china. so these are different things in china, of course, different elections, let's say that's why the 20th politburo member will be elected first, and then a new one will be elected from among the members of the politburo general secretary and that will most likely become sisinfin again, but it is also important to note that there is no term limit in the statute of the communist party of china. that is, there was a term limit in the constitution for the president of the people's republic of china for the leader of china as a political leader and there well done, the terms were really eliminated in the statute of the

communist party of the soviet union. there was never a limit on the terms, that is, there is no problem with him being hired for a third or a fourth term. that is, it is the decision of the party itself, he will remain theirs. the leader will most likely remain the leader of the party. and his third term as the president of the people's republic of china will be determined in march at the meeting of the chinese parliament and the chinese people's assembly, and there will be a truly historic precedent when the president of the people's republic of china will be elected for a third consecutive term. how these elections will take place here i quoted that 2,300 delegates of this congress of the communist party will elect the chairman of 2,300. yes, i said i can't find this information now i will find it how and how how

from 90 million from 90 million chinese communist delegates and how is the president elected, the head of the country, you say, he is elected by the parliament, yes, but not generally, i don’t know, but how about the members of the parliament there are interesting well, there are also about three thousand people there, decently decent that is, it is quite you understand otherwise , the party, yes, the party, of course. it rules in china, on the other hand, these are completely different things, and there are no problems here, that is, these lands will be . the deputy and the other and they respectively receive new government positions in march, i.e. they will respectively become vice president, prime minister of china, head of the chinese parliament, that is, all these members of the

politburo, in fact, they will then occupy the main positions in the state in six months information from various sources, internet sites, tv channels, reported about some movements inside china, military incursions that are moving towards beijing or towards taiwan, the chinese coast, they wrote about the position of all xi jinping wavered that there are many opponents of him within the central committee of the communist party of china at the head of the country, that there are many who want to remove him from the leadership of the country, well, it turned out that this is a lunatic, the information is going. and who spread all this gossip ? was it really like this before the revolutionary situation in to china itself, what can you say, who and tell how

you didn’t want to tell about it, it’s really a fake, there’s nothing behind it, there’s no reason behind it. that is, you understood from the very beginning that it was completely fake. well, but in principle they wrote about it well, i think now i won’t remember who, but decent publications also wrote, not only the tabloids, well, you understand it, the system is the system of power in china, it is quite closed, and therefore every person who writes some nonsense about it, and you understand, and it will go away, they are all accepted that she has some insider information, in fact, there was no information, and this general who is being accused, in fact, as if he is there, in fact, at this congress, he will most likely be promoted to the highest position and one of of the versions of this fake, i just wanted to blame this general and not the chinese leadership, well, this is one of the versions, but i’m saying it’s all a pure-blooded fake, mr. oleksiy. and what will happen next? what

threatens the world is that everything will remain the same, in essence, the chinese autocracy continues, well , look, uh, in china, it’s necessary there, i’ve already read, let’s say the extracts from this report, there’s really nothing new, there’s little new, let’s say yes, everyone expected just the opposite, what will these countries now say about the priority of security issues over issues economic development, we did not see this from today's report, that is, he talks about the modernization of the chinese army in the face of the challenges facing china, instead , he prioritizes everything, economic development , the development of the welfare of the population. i don't see at this congress, i don't see that there was some kind of font, there was a sudden change, everything is as it is , that is, uh, sisinfen said that they managed to curb

the protests in hong kong, which were really great. a challenge for the domestic situation in the country, he stated that china will continue to increase its technological, let's say, component against the background of the fact that the united states of china is challenging china in this technological competition, let's say the competition of technological innovation, you can - express myself. i understand that china accepts this experience, well, this challenge, and in china as a whole, it is again a repetition of many of it. it is possible, i would not like to use simple chinese phrases, they do not understand it anyway , for many listeners, this is basically a call

to build a peaceful world, more of a world in which cooperation would prevail, let's say, not confrontation, they call for us and let's speed it up the development of my army. well, you don’t understand that the chinese army is very large in terms of numbers. and in terms of its technological state, it is actually the largest in the world. yes, it is two million officially, but according to its technological state, you understand that 2 million people can be armed it is very difficult to use technological weapons, that is why the chinese army used to be mainly ground forces, now they are the ones who invest a lot of money in the development of the drone aviation fleet, that is, all this is what constitutes a modern army, that is, this modernization has been going on for more than one year. it will continue for the last 10 years. the chinese decided to do, they

decided to increase their nuclear potential, some say that it will be increased five times, but uh, according to some intelligence data and potential, well, now china has only 300 warheads that much, much less than in the united states. and in russia, that's why i ask. where else can we say to grow and develop? i don't think it's a threat. there's some kind of conflict that wants you to comment on the nato official. well, it's not a conflict, i'm talking about a spat with the ambassador of china e- they argued about the decision of the assembly of the arctic circle, admiral rob bauer and the chairman of the nato military committee and the chinese ambassador to iceland, he rulun, had such a verbal spat. i have a question for you because you emphasize the principle of

sovereignty and the importance of internationally recognized borders in the world. view of the ukrainian crisis is a chinese one, the chinese ambassador answers includes historical effective and the world needs to understand the first reason and also called china a peacemaker in the world, what kind of historical perspective is this in china that does not allow them to recognize the war of russia against ukraine, the historical perspective, you understand the chinese always look at the perspective , really, that is, they cannot give an assessment, for example, of events that are happening right now, right before their eyes. that is, you never, uh, you can not give an assessment, for example, because ukraine lost or did not lose because that in a month the situation at the front will change and the situation will be completely different, likewise, you cannot give the same assessment regarding

russia. yes, and to other processes there is a very well-known phrase xiaopin’s day when he was asked to comment on the great french revolution, which took place in the 18th century. as you know, he said that it is too early to give a summary of this event, that is, this is a historical perspective, that is, china does not consider the events at the given moment when they are happening, and china's position is actually very clear, they will really support they are in ukraine, but it is one thing to talk about support, but it is another matter to condemn, for some reason, the ukrainian e-e community, the ukrainian society, demand condemnation, but it has little influence of such support, they all and you how to relate to the very widespread opinion in ukraine that if everyone really wanted to stop the war in ukraine, it took him

less than a day and the war was stopped and the influence of putin's foam was enough on russia and on everyone, please , is this true, this is a stereotype that is spreading in particular, by the american media. by the way, in ukraine, in fact, china’s position is the principled position of china that it does not interfere in the internal affairs of any country, whether it is russia, ukraine, bangladesh or some other country , they did not seek to, they could express their position and most likely expressed the position to putin that such a war is not necessary for china, in return they will not put pressure on putin and say that he should not do this yes that is, you are simply not there there is no understanding of what uh who found influences china never influences on other countries so that they make some decisions, even if they are not popular there or popular for china, yes, that is, he makes decisions , he does not interfere, it becomes one of the basic principles of chinese foreign policy, and i

am sure that china did not know about putin's offensive, that is because he did not evacuate his citizens from ukraine. as you know, the evacuation of chinese citizens and embassies already took place at a time when russian troops were approaching kyiv, and for me this is the biggest indicator that china was not aware of russia's plans for the future oleksiy thank you very much oleksiy koval on the magazine, international member of the board of the ukrainian association 20 from the communist party of china, we talked, let's move on, oleksandr merezhko joins, a people's deputy of ukraine, the head of the council's committee on issues of foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation of the verkhovna rada p oleksandr good health good day sir good day let's really start with belarus in august svitlana tikhanovskaya as a candidate for the presidency of belarus announced the creation of the so-called united transitional cabinet of belarus and literally this week she proposed on behalf of the

head of the self-proclaimed head of the transitional cabinet of ukraine to establish diplomatic relations with its transitional cabinet that is, in fact, with the government in exile. to put it that way, and your answer was as follows, as the head of the parliamentary committee, that the position of tikhanovskaya herself in relation to russia and putin is not clear enough, as if she is afraid to call a spade a spade, and that is why ukraine does not give an answer yet. is this office of tsykhanovsky the legitimate government in exile of belarus? please comment on what it means that the position is not clear enough regarding putin's russia . there was a rather extensive interview on this topic, and it seems to me that she is simply avoiding a direct , concrete answer to a key question, for example

, whether putin russia is an enemy of the ukrainian people, not only the ukrainian people, but also the belarusian people. that is, for example, she called putin a wise leader and so on and i got the impression that she is not very clear. she has a position, they have a position regarding russia itself, that is, you know, it is a little alarming. therefore, before making any decision regarding the establishment diplomatic and political relations with her government. i believe that it is necessary to weigh all the pros and cons and understand this issue because it is a very important , very serious issue, and besides, you know, i would also like to give such a historical example , a precedent - this is a movement general de gaulle is a free france. that is, it is possible to form a government on the basis of such peculiar armed forces, it is possible

to say, that is, to take general de gaulle as an example and maintain contacts with such a belarusian government in exile , political contacts can even be recognized that is, you have to think very seriously about it. and in general, mr. oleksandr, svitlana from tykhanov is a random character. well, in the 20th year, she didn’t register these belarusians and her husband. i understand serhii tykhanovsky, and that’s why she started running for office. that’s a person in general, without any particular political background . i am leaving without organizational experience, well, the wife of a politician who has not been registered. well, it is difficult for me to say something concrete here. i do not consider you to be a random person, because every politician starts at some point. it is considered accidental when she starts politics, but she has already been in this politics whether she wants it or not for several years, that is, you know, people gain new experience, become politicians, that is, for me, this is

not some kind of argument. a more important issue is a more important argument is how she relates to ukraine to putin to russia and here we have to take a very clear and understandable position. we decided that she has a whole team there, but her activities of this team show signs that this is still someone's project and not just a politician who, well, you know what you won't become a politician just like that, if you have a great desire, you need some uncle with a suitcase to come up to you and say come on, you'll be with us, well, there is such a saying that the king makes the world his education, that is, advisers and these people who are part of in tikhanovskaya's immediate circle, there are certain doubts, there are also certain doubts and certain questions arise about this. well, here we also need to understand and analyze who

is in her circle, what views do they promote ? are narratives also important? well, views are narratives. we see who enters, what she does not understand. we are also here, the discussion often includes the belarusian opposition or pseudo oppositionists or the belarusian opposition already sounds like all year round this word combination and different wings and they say, well, in particular, in the morning, the sheepdog yes, we are with him in the discussion, he is simply offended, you understand when i quote this quote about putin's wisdom, i don't even mean putin's wisdom for that tykhanov quote . and about how she surrendered in october of the 20th, exactly two years ago, she stated in an interview. well, that means i stand for the ukrainian truth. i remember who it was an interview with. she said that we would like to call putin as a mediator in our relations with lukashenka so that putin would help us communicate, that is, during the transfer of power. i understand that she was hinting at it from lukashenka to us and

in the morning the sheepdog simply reacts in a rather emotional way, he says that this has never happened, this cannot happen, and she has always been against putin and has always considered russia there to be almost a strategic enemy of belarus, you understand this kind of reaction in tikhanovsky's entourage, how much is there? well, this group of people is not the only one who is swindling it, and we have to recognize one thing, and the government in exile of these people, how much is this a unified team? well, the point is that as far as i know , although i am not an expert in the affairs of belarus or their teams, but i know that there are different views, different currents, and they conflict with each other, this is true, well, regarding views, you know that it is natural when a person's views change under the influence of new experience and so on, but you know at a certain point when we ask specific questions, we we are waiting for a specific, clear answer, and unfortunately, we

do not hear it, oleksandr. how should we treat belarusians now, because they are really offended when we ask such questions and say, well, we support you for you. for you, but on the other hand, there is a very inert position, and even there on the gathering of the russian military in belarus and there, well, we do not see any active partisan movement there, which would testify to a position so certain, it seems to be there, but it is not there, how to behave they are to the belarusian people they say well, here we are under occupation, we have a dictator, you know, there is a very important specific example of real belarusians, who are not only in words, but on sundays . kalinovsky regiment and this is an example of real belarusians and who shed

blood for ukraine and for democracy in belarus for our freedom and yours, and we must deal with exactly such people, they have legitimacy, legitimacy that is based on concrete actions and on the words of mr. oleksandr, then a more specific question. how do you feel about this petition and the mandate of the president of the government regarding the introduction of visas for citizens of belarus in ukraine? is your personal opinion necessary or not? well, i can only express my personal opinion. the whole picture is better seen by the ministry of foreign affairs. i am in favor of introducing visas, at least, as an international lawyer, i understand that today belarus is an accomplice of russian aggression against ukraine, and this is a sufficient reason for in order to implement a visa regime for you, in

addition, questions may arise related to the fact that the russian belarusian special services can use the visa-free regime without summons. that is , it is a matter of national security. well, let's say a few more words about the pro-nuclear threat. nuclear weapons, this will be the last mistake, the threshold for russia's use of nuclear weapons, which was previously considered high, but if moscow still decides to do so, it will be the last mistake, he said the minister of defense of finland, antii kaiko konen, from his name in russia, the ile tv channel, earlier this week, kaikone did not take part in the meeting of the defense ministers of the nato countries in brussels, stating that the use of nuclear weapons is still considered unlikely. as if we relaxed after 10- on the 10th, we talked a lot about nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons, and then a massive missile strike , what should we expect now in terms of the use of missiles

and possible nuclear weapons from russia, or has the whole threat decreased now, in your opinion, please our the task and the task of our friends and allies now is to minimize this future threat , the threat of the use of nuclear weapons by the putin regime against ukraine. there may be consequences, and the consequences may be devastating, it is about the fact that the russian army can be completely destroyed, that is, i hope that our allies already have a plan, a plan to prevent and minimize the threat the use of nuclear weapons by russia and i also wanted to ask you about iran today, a number of mass

media, in particular, wrote about everything , and all of them spread the information that russia ordered ballistic missiles from iran with a range of 300 and 700 km, they are called fatek 110 and zoofak -har reported everything to the point that he came to such a conclusion that the intelligence of one of the states of the united states of america told about everything on the condition of anonymity. the main thing is how we should deal with iran in terms of diplomacy. i repeat that there is an embassy in the center of kyiv on pechersk, a large embassy, ​​i have been there before, which can easily adjust the fire there and engage in bogus activities, whatever if iran is directly or indirectly, also like belarus becomes an ally of russia, shouldn't we also change our diplomatic relations with the islamic republic of iran, not only take away the ambassador's accreditation, it is possible

to completely break the deep of relations, your attitude , please, well, first of all, such newspapers as the washington post they are very rarely wrong, they carefully check the information, their standards of journalism are quite high, that is, i have no reason not to trust that information. i want to remind you that not so long ago, a few days ago, another one appeared. alarming information regarding the fact that there are already so-called guards of the islamic revolution in the occupied territories of crimea as instructors who help the russian army, if this is so, then from an international legal point of view we can talk about the complicity of iran in aggression against ukraine. that is, it is very serious. i understand that it must be checked carefully. but if this is true, then iran must be qualified as an accomplice in aggression

. the status of a terrorist state and a state sponsor of terrorism. i believe that if iran continues to provide military technical assistance to russia, then we need to qualify iran as a sponsor state of terrorism with all the corresponding political and legal consequences of the termination of relations. andriy yarmak to the international committee of the red cross, let's remind you what he said, i'll give you three days so

that you start the red cross fulfilling its