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of ukraine. i agree here. i agree. so now we will have two more guests and then you can bet you can ask more specific questions. and now you can ask . because this is an important moment because i think these people know exactly what ukraine needs for ukrainians, for example , such a simple question: the government should somehow help ukrainians in winter

this is a series of questions, is there gasoline or is there firewood or is there coal? is it possible that people will simply warm themselves in some special designated places, that is, it will be cold in the apartment, but i went out somewhere and warmed up, i don’t know in the basement or in the open air or something like that, that’s all from my point of view, these are quite important questions to which there are actually no answers yet, and they are not there because no one cares. and there are none because this is the first time in our life that we have such a war . in the east and on in the north and in the south, and this is definitely what putin wants, but no one tells me if we have any. yes, we have two guests together, an orzhel and a weakling

, and oh, i see them, i haven't seen them all, because i have cameras , there is a camera here, and i i don't see all of them, but gentlemen. let's start with mr. oleksandr slobozhan, whom i have already introduced. so, look at what the government should do. who should be responsible for the central government or local authorities in the preparation for the heating season ? so to say that er or the government or local authorities, this is a shared responsibility. there are several challenges, respectively, this is the most difficult heating season, you said correctly, first of all, in our country, every heating season is a question of the availability of gas volumes . secondly, this is such an important issue

for municipalities. the so-called difference in tariffs, so that tariffs do not increase, it is necessary to subsidize these heat supply enterprises, and this is fully the responsibility of the government, which should provide for adequate funding, if we say so . about emergency situations and now i would like to tell you that more than 400 objects of critical infrastructure in ukraine er-er at the beginning of er-er large- scale war m-m they need either er-er repair or complete restoration, i.e. systematic and where their destruction and of course that it affects the quality of services, and here the independent municipal government, of course, cannot cope, and here the question is not only about money, respectively, not only

, providing it with backup equipment, procurement of so-called mobile boiler houses, procurement generators and here the local government buys it from their budgets, for this purpose amendments were made to the cabinet resolution so that these would be priority expenses and international organizations. i would like to mention this because at many facilities, for example, hospitals for example, you mentioned very correctly what should be the plan where we will warm up. and here you are on august 22, together with the disins of the board of our association of cities, held such a meeting and the municipal government decided on such places of heating. well, yes so-called thermal points, besides, having this, we called for why we talked about the transition to the

online mode in terms of education, firstly, it is the safety of children, and secondly, it is precisely the field of preschool education - this is kindergarten, general secondary school, after-school, various there are artistic , sports and other schools, this is the area at the level of cities, villages, villages for recruiting, which consumes the most energy resources, that is why we called to transfer these institutions, these warehouses online, based on the feedback from the local self-government bodies that we received talking with the state emergency service, they can become such points for heating, cooking hot food, well, of course, i will not speak all the time oleksandr slobozhan, see mr. oleksiy, minister of energy and environment. i always wondered about such a name, but it does not matter, see but there are such places. i am not asking you to show me with your finger on the map where these spare energy sources are located. i do not know

whether they are energy-generating or auxiliary energy -generating power. to each region well, yes, i have such a dream, they immediately grabbed the car, brought it, replaced it, and again there is current , again there is something again, there is something like this somewhere there is such a thought somewhere there are such spare parts p oleksiy please, but i can’t confirm the real availability why because they talked about it their from march, they talked about such equipment that should be in stock so that it can be repaired. and there really should be such logistics centers from which you can very quickly transfer from one point to

another. a-a funds are actually typical typical equipment transformers are atypical equipment they are terrorists - they are russians who destroy our generation facilities, our generation facilities were built in soviet times, frankly, this is equipment that was made there in individual ethnic implementations and in fact it is the order is one and we have to wait a very long time to receive this equipment, therefore we must take very seriously the protection of our generation facilities, e-e, reserve funds, and how do you know, as firefighters, how our emergency services work now e-e against shelling after the shelling of the raschits, and this is how the energy industry should work, they really work differently now, they even use different options

for replacing networks, changing the network configuration in order to reduce fan outages, reduce the possibility that ours are basically sitting without electricity and over time, without heat supply, which is very critical. let's be honest, there are problems at the city level, there are problems at the state level, and serious problems, but the main problem that i identify for myself and yet they talk about it so badly grow terrorists know our system we know their system they know our system in fact on monday they hit objects that are critically important but not the kind of objects that can be hit in order to generally uh well turn off ukraine we have high voltage networks we have a serious generation that can be under fire and this is a problem. and here we need to very clearly define these

objects for the protection of uh, our air defense was and i'm afraid that uh, this maybe we should prepare for the worst, we understand that again these are some bloodthirsty idiots, terrorists, whatever you call them one of these guts, but there is a risk that during the heating season, exactly when will the coolant go through the heat supply system, when will the water utilities work, when will it be -15, the blasts may hit critical infrastructure once again, and this is the risk that the system and countermeasures may be frozen to be such local alchevskii and otsi youth boiler houses, about which we heard a lot and pass kyiv, unfortunately, did not purchase 50, captured only 12, and in general, in ukraine, there should be much more to make otsi, which in order to be it is comfortable in the homes of ukrainians so that the coolant freezes and repair crews can carry out repairs, and these are precisely the critical

moments for which we must prepare and the heating points and people must understand what they do when there is no electricity a week, two weeks, there is no heat supply for 3-5 days, the algorithm of actions must be absolutely clear, and here i separately have a wish for the government and for those people who make decisions, after all, to pay attention to the few government officials, people who cannot help themselves in those conditions, and they should be just these people to work and give them options for action in such critical situations, yes oleksiorzhel minister of energy and environmental protection for 19-20 years said i will not let him speak either until the end of the program, let's go back to oksana slobozhana slobozhana executive director of the association bridge, and i can ask such absurd questions. i am not an expert, but there are reserves, well, relatively speaking, in lviv, there

is coal. yes, because in lviv, there is firewood here in the city center. here, almost everyone has stoves, some kind of fireplaces. i know. that is, it can be used in some way, but let’s say in kyiv, maybe we need some kind of coal there, i don’t know. there is also some kind of coal. if you say that in schools, it is possible to implement some kind of heating points there. then there is also a need for something in the school so that it heats something in at school, they have such things somewhere about it. does anyone think that it is accumulating or what is happening with it in the cities of ukraine, please? he turned to the profile committee and spoke about the fact that

5 billion uah should be provided in the reserve fund for the purchase of such equipment, i will continue the thesis here - oleksia well, i completely agree. unfortunately, 1.4 billion uah was provided for, but for the next budget, i hope that it is now in the coming weeks uah 22.5 billion will be accepted, but there is a question of the speed of carrying out these purchases and the speed of delivery to those municipalities that will need such equipment. the second point is that you are absolutely right. there is such a concept as reserves and the government put er. accordingly, the task of state structures m-m and semi er-e commercial commercial er-e is er-e accumulation of reserves and about fuel oil er-e we talked about wood respectively well, i died er-e i am silent here, er, the topic is one that has

been talked about a lot, how much do we need er, from gas reserves, er, in fact, the municipalities here have er, limited, well, if the possibilities er, based on their available resources and based on the organization of the work of communal services yes, of course, every mayor, every team of executive committees, they form such reserves, what i said about e thermal e-e points that to begin with, it is necessary to decide, that is, everyone must know where such thermal points will be located in his territory, the second point is how much is needed after counting the population, how much does he need of certain energy carriers, have you divided them correctly for example, if we we are talking about small communities, there the issues are solved with firewood, with alternative types of heating, if we are talking about huge cities, about big cities, then

you cannot heat the whole city with an alternative, so this is just right here after all, the strategic reserve is formed from other energy carriers, the same thing, there is gas, fuel oil, etc. , even if generators are installed. and we have many installed generators, especially eh, this applies to social institutions in such heating points, generators should also be installed in advance. they must be installed, then there will be a question of fuel for them, and each municipality forms such well, let's say strategic-strategic reserves, based on the population, but i tell you i want to say that at the beginning, i said that we, as an association of cities, talked about the need to increase funding and the purchase of this equipment in the summer, and because

the entire territory of ukraine is under threat, there are no safe zones and 400 objects that i drew attention to and they will increase, so i want to give it belongs to the utility companies, which are restoring very quickly, but their resource is also not infinite, and here the question is precisely the closing of the sky, and what oleksiy said, i want to support, no matter how we form reserve lines. if we, er, do not installed what kind of equipment, i want to tell you that now the municipalities are protecting themselves, such transformers, others, i will not disclose how it is done, but if you do not close the sky, this systematic shelling will cool down, yes , mr. oleksiy, look, and is there, uh, here i look , for example, in support of mr. oleksandr i will say that when there was no electricity here in lviv, we are now in lviv

. i was very pleased when i was walking down the street and saw that there are generators standing near the pharmacies and they are emitting what is needed, and the pharmacies have them there was no light, but only near the pharmacies, near the shops , but the question is in another point, look, and there are methods of delivery, so relatively speaking, kyiv in kyiv has a gas supply, and we know that somewhere underground we have quite a lot of gas, well, it depends, a lot, it depends what kind of winter, if the winter is warm, then there will be enough gas. and if there is no heat, then there will not be enough, but these gas pipelines are protected, they continue somewhere to kyiv to poltava to lviv to odesa to kharkiv. that is, everything is normal if

you need fuel oil, are there fuel oil pipelines, or are there car in which can download this fuel oil from some e-e distribution centers and take it to those big cities and small ones. this story is somehow of interest to someone. there are some specialists who are algorithms of logistics who build and order from the government or someone. what do we need 257 cars in order to supply bazut 720 so that gasoline e-e gas pipelines such and such so that gases go coal as well well and so on and so on. do you understand me? the most likely solution is that if there is a really critical

situation, we will receive an appropriate approach to the distribution of fuel, as we received in march-april, may, when first we received emergency personnel, our services, the army, only then received ordinary ukrainians, and there will also be some priority for fuel, specifically for the generator diesel for a-a gasoline if it is necessary to provide just these objects, and gas is much more difficult, and gas is our combined gas passport and gas distribution they are calculated, there are balances, there is pressure in the system in order for you to receive gas in our homes and in fact this is a critical moment, we are entering a 14 plus billion gas storage , but we have to understand that the moneymakers will most likely turn off the transportation of natural gas, this directly affects the availability of the list in the system, and in the

19th year there was such a risk and there was a risk that objectively it would freeze not only in europe. and considering the fact that there is no corresponding pressure, i will give you a real example so that it is clear, and here they studied the problems of the human area of ​​the chernihiv region, the city of chernihiv. it has the chernihiv thermal power station she always worked on anthracite coal a-a 30th coal a-a respectively a-a roshestve was destroyed and bombed and fuel supply and fuel management, that is, this conveyor nuria who ensured the supply of a-a coal, she was destroyed and yes, it is directed as a result er, the chernihiv chp will come with reserve fuel, which has never been used before, and moreover, it is impossible to transfer anthracite either in the occupied territories or well, we are blocked

in the apartment and logistics are very difficult a-a it turns out like this that chernihiv thermal power plant and chernihiv is not shriveled, this means that it is shriveled, this means that if the source of heat supply is destroyed somewhere , there is no way to ask the consumer from another point, because there is no seam, and as a result, chernihivska has never worked on a reserve type of fuel before the system has never worked before, gas supply is not like the consumption option and one more factor can be added there, it is critical. if our ukrainian system will work in reverse mode, reverse network, it means that we we have to take from the western regions and remove gas from gas storages and pump gas to the other side in order to pump hans to the other side - this is a colossal expense of the natural gas itself to ensure the pressure and accordingly we have 14 plus billions and there 13 + even less than 13 to provide for work in

reverse regardless of when we argue or not argue transit about 6 and further and gas breakdown of temporary occupied now already to occupied territories remain consumers they need to ensure electricity supply gas supply let's be honest, there are few people who don't really have the opportunity to pay, and the infrastructure has to work on these small amounts of consumption of these people, a huge infrastructure that is broken, which has losses that need to be repaired, and as a result , natural gas and heat transfer fluid for people are broken. entrances of people's apartments are broken, but they don't want to go there, you can't provide much heat, but you have to solve it somehow, and it's a huge problem . unfortunately, today they turn a blind eye to it .

depending on which of the coolant pipes of the heat pipe was hit by a russian missile or a russian strike, people need to understand by neighborhoods where they go to the heating points and where they may and may be relocated over time, these are critical moments that must be frankly discussed because when it will be cold and more than that, rockets will fly, people need an algorithm of action, a plan thank you guests sorry oleksii oleksii orzhyn minister of energy and environmental protection 19-20s oleksandr slobozhan executive director of the association cities of ukraine, we tried to explain that it will not be an easy winter and it is objectively not easy. to be honest, i would still say you spoke, you spoke because heat , energy is important, but it all depends on the

ukrainian army, and there is no specialist in the world. now we are not driven out of the works of er than the experts of fens-express ivan krychevsky who knows a lot about the ukrainian army and now he will finally share with us and for this we have 15 minutes er and good health mr. ivan and then i will answer questions if you will have them good day good day well, look, er, i'm asking this hint, you can even answer with your eyes, we started today's program with this, and it is considered classic when the beginning and the end approximately converge somewhere, yes. this is so in novels, we will assume that i wrote such a novel today western intelligence experts are telling us that kherson is under serious pressure from the ukrainian army and there may be an explosion there. local people also hint that they

can already feel the breath of the ukrainian army near kherson. we said a month ago that there is a possibility of an environment there is a possibility of some, well, some very pleasant for any ukrainians, there may be news that you say today, the 16th, today is the 16th of october . when such an interesting moment will come that our troops will finally break through the enemy positions and leave the novaya kakhovka area and thus cut off the only, more or less, you know , direction suitable for the retreat of the russians, or for logistical supply and then we can say so figuratively romantic russian occupation grouping on the kherson equipment literally feel the breath of death because the distance is the way for an

organized retreat will be cut off the way for a more or less organized logistical supply will be cut off well and accordingly let them act only in the russian way that is it is terrible and senseless to die and accordingly so against such a background this is the mood that arises in our military and in western analysts what is there soon let's eat a watermelon and, uh, they eat, respectively, the russians of the occupation group, look, but i always had this question, it seems to me that maybe you and i can, too, and your colleagues discussed that and what, from the point of view of the tactics of the strategy of operational art, is better when we say we we will cut something there, but even that kerch bridge is famous. and here, in my head, on the one hand, it cannot be closed, because where will they flee , the more of them flee, the less resistance to us, the more of our soldiers remain alive, and let them they are rolling in the dew just the same now you say there

is still the possibility of supplying the russian army with power yes but on the other hand if it is broken i think it is possible well then where will they flee and then their resistance leaves them with no options except to resist they have to die what is it what is it that they can survive and escape what is better oh i say my friend les podervyansky what is better well, unfortunately, we are now in a situation where we have to choose what is better because apparently the original plan of the ukrainian counteroffensive in the kherson region well, as i was now personally inclined to skip it, he still insisted on the fact that it will be quite enough there to hole up all the russian logistics crossings, how can we make the russians watch the entire front line and thus force them to act of goodwill how can we further establish with according to some publications of the western media, this plan was very close to the realization that we could already believe