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unfortunately, it is still a fact that the same countries of the european union will continue to buy the same gas or oil or some other goods for a certain period of time because it is impossible to stop this whole process at once, so i think here they are simply looking for a way to punish russia by recognizing it as a terrorist country and at the same time not to harm the relations between the united states of america and their er-er their fanatical allies in europe eh i think that such a compromise can be made here it is only a matter of political will so so to speak. well, i would say so, well, the wording is that what will follow, how will the americans interact with the allies in order to further condemn this terrorist country and
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actually condemn it. bring to justice, that's why it seems to me that it's more of a technological than a political nature, because let's remember that president baide repeatedly called putin a murderer and rightly called him a murderer, so for him there is no question, in my opinion, of whether the a terrorist state is a state, the only question is which one to interact with our allies in such a way that this pressure on russia was greater and the potential differences between the traditions of the usa and the countries of europe were less, vladimir, we have repeatedly talked with you in our programs about what kind of logic vladimir putin is guided by during the terrorist attacks on ukraine, because what he is doing now is probably unprecedented in the history of
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europe, at least since 1945, and the war he is waging now on the territory of the ukrainian state is the largest war on the continent with at the moment of germany's defeat in the second world war or now. how does putin look to you or does he understand that he crossed the red lines a long time ago? and what are the red lines and any limits for him? is there a limit somewhere beyond which he has already will understand that you can't continue to behave like this, it's bad news for all of us because he can't back down, he's coded by that system of power that he actually
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created himself, he can't be wrong, he's god, he's the king , he's the only one correct e-e he makes only the right decision e that's why he can't retreating is bad but on the other hand it is also sorry for the cynicism good because it means that he will reach his end and this end will be uh will be fatal for him and for his country uh he doesn't want to understand it uh well, maybe, thank god, this only brings him closer and closer to his own political and physical death and to the death of the country that he tried to turn into a heap of land. yes, unfortunately, it costs us new and new tens of thousands of victims. yes this means that we will be in this bloody war for more than one month
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russia, but this means that the civilized world will finish off this hydra and, in the end, it will stop its aggressive policy towards its neighbors and ideal neighbors, you understand, you need to finally understand what this basis of world evil must be brought to a state of incapacity, only in this case there is a chance that this world will be safe in the future, unfortunately, our western partners do not want to fully understand this, they continue to be afraid, they continue to believe that putin can press on the nuclear button is uh something that should have been abandoned a long time ago but uh you see that time gives
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results we couldn't think uh in the first week of the war when everyone was brought to their feet uh, on an anti-aircraft missile system of norwegian production. so it took eight months, at first they looked at us like at people who generally talk about some cosmic things that it is impossible because you don't know you don't know how soon you won't have anything like that and so on they couldn't even dream and imagine the same seven or eight months ago.
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similarly, in the question of the future of this under- empire, they also have to go their own way. for now, they are at the very beginning of this path and they are still afraid. they are still they doubt, they still can't come up with some kind of approach. well, it's okay, time is a different story, time is takes its own, including the un. we saw how last week for the resolution that does not recognize the accession of certain regions of ukraine to russia, 143 countries do not recognize it, and this is also a certain result. but russia was and remains a member of the un security council and has the right of veto and decides or influences the decisions of the united nations according to yours or has not yet arrived at a time when it is necessary to reform the un or restart the un or create
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another security structure in place of the un, as it once was with the league of nations in a security format for a long time no, it is not effective, it is obvious to everyone. even the ovaniv top officials are talking about it, including mr. gutierrez, the current general secretary. well, it is obvious to everyone, why, because it is designed in such a way, when in its key body, there are two different concepts of the worldview, one is democratic and the other is totalitarian. well, how can you combine things that cannot be combined in principle. that is why all this is happening. the un has been trying to reform for
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50 years and so far without results because again these contradictions between good and evil stand in the way, but what did the last revolution really show mr. serhiyevich? this could be a turning point in the history of the united nations. to make decisions through the general assembly that cannot be adopted by the un security council, and this is very important, that is, for russia and its satellites, this is a very clear signal, a little more and you will have the decisions you fear through the general assembly
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and you know, here is one very, very, potentially, so far, really positive moment, and it says that we probably don't need to ask the question about the exclusion of russia from betraying the security of the un, we need to ask the question about that the russian federation is illegally a member of the united nations, that it acquired this membership not in a legal way, not in accordance with the statute, which prescribes how a state is accepted into the organization, but fraudulently, and if the united states of america is civilized the world worked with the members of the united nations, as was seen on the example of this resolution
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, and raised the question that russia should, at least at the first stage, be stripped of its powers, and everything is quite uh-uh, so to speak, normal, normal history, and uh, that's what could be a prologue for further actions, then this would already be a colossal victory, which, i think, would open the door for a further movement to exclude russia from the organization itself, and therefore from the un security council, because if the country violated all statutory norms, if it violated the basic principles of this organization, she has no right to be a member of it, let alone to be a member of the governing body in the field of security, so i think , uh, there is a good dynamic here, it should just not be lost now, but continue to work in this direction, and
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believe me i think that the vast majority of member countries of the organization did not want to be in the place of ukraine, and this should be used to show that either we work together and the organization is alive, or we need to really look for its replacement. well, what do you mean, sir? volodymyr, in 1991, after the collapse of the soviet union, russia gained powers in the un, referring to the fact that they are the legal successors of the soviet union, since russia was never a founder of the un, unlike belarus and ukraine, and it would have had to go through the accession procedure i understand the united nations organization correctly. that is the truth. for the sake of the experiment, it is necessary to say that, unfortunately , the leaders of the cis countries the day before gave their
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consent for russia to continue to represent the soviet union in the un and the council security of the un, it was a big political mistake, well , probably at that time, it was a time of euphoria, it was a time when republics became countries. when still , few people understood in this regard, well, except actually, only some countries i mean ukraine and belarus, which were represented at the un in 1945, understood what it was about. in any case, this mistake was made, but this does not mean that in this way we legionized russia's participation in the organization. that is, maybe some group of countries something to say well and that this is not a reason to
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to violate the statute, and russia in this way, it obviously violated it, but covered up, as it were, the decision of the council of heads of states of the already formed cis at that time, which apparently said that it had the right to continue the ussr in the un and the un security council, in fact, we are the same the legal successors of the ussr, international law says that all the countries that were formed on the territory of the previous country are its legal successors. but russia invented the formula that it is a successor. well, international law does not know such a thing. well, for russia, it has no meaning it is important that you have any arguments in order to, well, in order to achieve your goals, that is why this topic about the full acquisition of russia and membership in the un is relevant, and if we combine the efforts of our
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lawyers, internationalists, and interested parties, in the european union of americans canadians , australians there and so on, then we could reach a very good result, mr. volodymyr . measures of strategic deterrence to prevent an attack, the ministry of defense of the republic of belarus announced this today. a day earlier, the head of the department of international military cooperation of the ministry of defense of belarus, valery revenko, stated that russia will transfer 170 tanks and 200 armored fighting vehicles with 100 guns to the country from russia for use in the of a joint group some time ago , we remember belarus and russia announced that
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nine thousand russian soldiers will be sent to belarus, which will supposedly protect belarus from a possible attack, either from the east or the west, meaning from the side of poland or from the south , respectively, from ukraine, the maneuvers that are taking place now indicate that belarus is going to participate in the second stage of the war and the opening of another one front, although we know that this front was first opened to belarus on february 24, 2022 , when troops entered the territory of ukraine from the territory of belarus, now it seems that putin managed to convince lukashenka to take part in the russian war. i think that no, you see
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even those potential forces that the russian federation is trying to bring there, well, they don't look too convincing, because for every russian tank that will be redeployed there and for every tank that is owned by the belarusians, there are at least a few jguns. and you know how they like to meet with er in russian armored vehicles, so that later it remains er therefore, it is not er so serious a threat to think that such forces can be advanced except to repeat er, well, er, that nonsense that the russians did in february months when they marched in long columns to kyiv. well, what came out of this, in my opinion, everyone has already understood for a long time, but if russia is next on the same rake, well
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, i'm just here in this case, i just want to repeat the words of our military that as soon as we move forward, we are ready and we will show them where the pieces are on the motherland, so i think that this is being done solely in order to restrain certain forces of the ukrainian armed forces and to provide the opportunity to move between the east and the south. is now extremely important for us. well, what if there are 70,000 then we have to keep at least the same amount, it can’t be a little less, but it’s still a large number of people, er, and actually, i think because of these, all the public statements, how many tanks will there be, how many bmps will there be, how many systems will there be , er, there of air defense and so on and so on in order to simply uh, we, accordingly, the number, maybe
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even a larger number of our equipment, listened there before and kept it just in case, because well, to tell the truth, uh, well, i don't know, i'm not a military specialist, but especially in the army belarus, but something seems to me that the belarusian army has never looked like something extremely serious, and even more so compared to the experience gained by our ukrainian heroes, that's why i think that well, it's not like that, if you were to show physical exercises but they can affect the nervous system of young girls, but not more. in an interview with nbc, lukashenko began to talk about his personal relationship with putin, he was asked about how these relationships develop and whether they trust each other.
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lukashenko, if we talk about our personal relations with president putin, but they were not always cloudless. you know that we quarreled and quarreled sometimes, but as our closest friends and reliable partners, he once said that такую уровен відомотношение как меджурдом белуроссия и россии представлением there is no one a-a etogo first, secondly, last time, our relationship only got stronger, we absolutely trust each other, so there are practically no problems at all, and who else would i trust more lukashenko or putin, well, putin of course uses lukashenko because we remember two years ago, after the presidential elections were held and
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lukashenko proclaimed himself the president of the republic of belarus, we did not recognize the countries of the world did not recognize his authority in the last time. we saw how lukashenko tried to play the role of an elder in the smd club , including among the asian countries that were once part of the soviet union according to yours, lukashenka, will he still manage to get out of the water dry in this story? to soak, taking into account the fact that he was and still remains such a political animal who has been in power for 30 years and whether he will be able to bypass putin or watch with his own eyes, i would still be much more
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careful in the place of this self-proclaimed person, because the fact that he now he said well, he actually signed up to the fact that he will sit together with putin on the dock of the international tribunal that will try them because well, no one has any doubt that putin and his political and military entourage are criminals. that is, this the issue is not even being discussed, only how to correctly and quickly form this special international tribunal e so that it can start working because of the facts in order to bring this whole gang to justice for this not a diplomatic word but in a different way it is impossible to name more than enough of them, that is, the crime of armed aggression does not need to be proven, it has already been proven by everything that is possible, terrorist attacks have been verified many times and i think the number
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has already gone into the hundreds, so there will be no work for the international specialized tribunal yes and a lot. that is, these are all things that, unlike previous such tribunals, are filmed, they are documented on videotape , there is no need for any additional explanations, the prosecutor looks and sees what happened here already not to mention the fact that it has already been recorded, and these are tens of thousands of, so to speak , crimes that have already been committed, so to speak, to paper , so the fact that he talks so, well, with such bravado about his relations with putin, probably indicates that everything - still he hopes that he will hide behind putin, and putin will force the west to force ukraine to make some concessions, well, this is
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typical typical comprehensibility typical philanthropy, because neither the west nor ukraine will make any concessions, and what we are hearing now with er to the consequences of the latter, rammstein is talking about exactly this, that is, despite er, all attempts by putin there, through erdoğan, there , or because of some useful idiots in the west , to propose negotiations, they are basically rejected, so they will not be, uh, very good that and the president of ukraine cut off his own opportunity such negotiations by signing the corresponding decree. i believe that this is the right step, so i think that it is simply not the ability of both putin and lukashenka to really look at the situation around them and make the right decisions from it. well, they will go
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to the sub-tribunal together receive their life terms, well, in the best case, if of course they live until such a development, he says again that belarus does not take part in the war and he only helps the ukrainians, we will hear today that our participation is that we feed russians and feed ukrainians russians and ukrainians and you suppress them so that the majority of them represent the asylum as a refugee from ukraine . 400 to 500 people come to us every day. we fully equalize them in terms of rights. this is our participation, but we did not kill anyone there and we are not going to be killed . first of all, no one asks us to participate. in this operation, in this case, russia and we are not involved in the gelding there, er, we have
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always talked about it and we are talking. well, apparently they don't want to listen to us and they don't want to hear us. well, that's your business. well, you see how lukashenko appeals to a western journalist. what what, you don't you want your countries don't want to hear. and what does he really want according to you? well, it's just another fantasy , you know, a cynical lie, while it's interesting that putin and lukashenko have really lost the ability to really evaluate what's happening around them. he is talking about 400-500 ukrainians who arrive in the territory of belarus every day. yes, maybe, but they do not come there to ask for political asylum, they want to either go further to poland or the baltic countries or return to ukraine, and here talking about the fact that they are feeding someone
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there, giving someone equal rights and so on. well, this is absolute nonsense and it is an absolute lie. then he says that they want to get involved in our country, but we do not get involved. i'm sorry, but if the armed forces attack from the territory of your country, let it not even be yours country, and that union state of another state is participation, and that is why i also, er, have repeatedly called on our authorities to raise their eyes a little higher on er, so to speak, and understand what is with this country. we also do not have the right today to have any -which of diplomatic relations, this is a country that helps our enemy, that provides its own airports, its own military bases, its own training bases, its own infrastructure facilities for storing the same fuel, and so on. and so on. and we consider this to be
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normal . it should be exactly like that, at least at the political level, if we don't want to influence in a different way, if we don't go that we don't want cotton to explode there, how should it explode, because if the airfield x is on the territory of ukraine they beat secrets, then this airfield must be destroyed and these are obvious things, you can't react differently to what is happening but if we don't do it, then at least the politicians should say that we don't want to have anything to do with this regime. it seems clear to me things, why, mr. volodymyr , is the current ukrainian government in no hurry to make such a statement, why did we end diplomatic relations with the russian federation, but not with belarus? well, mr. serhiy, the same question i have been asking myself for a very long time. the only
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i have a human one. well, on mine, in particular , it took eight years to sever relations with russia in the 14th year. well, it is possible that our calls with you to sever relations with belarus. well, maybe it will take 8. at least, at least 1.5. maybe two years. well, i don’t know. i can’t logically explain this. well, that is, this is a political decision, and this political decision is made by the president, the minister of foreign affairs, the secretary of the national security and defense council, the minister of defense, so it should be brought to the discussion of the national council. safety and defense is a principled decision, this is a country that borders us, a country that is currently threatening us because there are russian troops on its territory that can attack us, er, it should be a definitely considered decision, but er, it cannot be that we do not react to that what is happening next door and we pretend that
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, in principle, it does not concern us, it does not happen. thank you , mr. volodymyr, for the conversation. this was volodymyr ogrysko, a diplomat, a politician, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009, they talked about today's attacks by the russian federation and drone attacks martyrs on the territory of the ukrainian state, well, friends , for those who are now watching us on youtube, i will say that you can join our sponsor club, from now on we have this feature that allows you to help our youtube channel develop and make our programs better under this video you you see the sponsor button, you can donate some not-so-large amount in order to develop our youtube channel, and besides, we also work on other social networks, look for
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