dangers of the un, because if a country has violated all statutory norms, if it has violated the basic principles of this organization, it has no right to be a member of it, not to mention the fact that being a member is a governing body in the field of security, so i think it's a good dynamic and you just have to now don't lose sight of it, but continue in this direction and believe me, i think that the vast majority of the member countries of the organization would not like to be in the place of ukraine, and this is exactly what should be used to show that either we work together and the organization is alive or we then it is necessary to really look for its replacement. well , mr. volodymyr, you mean that russia in 1991 after the collapse of the soviet union. in truth, for the sake of the experiment, it is necessary to say that,

unfortunately , the leaders of the cis countries on the eve of russia continued to represent the soviet union at the un and as a slave of the un security council. this was a big political mistake, well , probably at that time. and it was a time of euphoria, it was a time when the republics became countries. who understood, well, except actually i mean only some countries, ukraine and belarus, which were represented at the un in 1945, understood what it was about, in any case, this mistake was made, but it does not mean that in this way we legionized russia's participation in the organization that is, well, some group of countries can

say something. well, and that this is not a reason to violate the statute, and russia obviously violated it in this way, but covered up, as it were, the decision of the council of heads of state of the already formed cis at that time, which apparently said that it had the right to continue the ussr in the un and in the security council of the un actually we are also the legal successors of the ussr international law says that all countries that were formed on the territory of the previous country are its legal successors but the poems are here invented a formula that it is a successor well, international law does not know such well, but for russia it is of no importance, it has in itself any arguments in order to, well, in order to achieve its goals, that is why this topic about the illegality of russia's acquisition of un membership

is relevant and if we combine the efforts of our lawyers, internationalists, interested parties in the european union, americans, canadians , australians, and so on, then we could reach a very good result, mr. volodymyr. deterrence to prevent an attack, the head of the department of international military cooperation of the ministry of defense of belarus valery revenko announced that russia will transfer to the country 170 tanks and 200 armored combat vehicles with 100 guns tents from russia for use as part of a joint grouping of troops

. nine thousand russian soldiers have been sent to protect belarus from a possible attack, either from the east or from the west, meaning from poland or from the south , respectively from ukraine, and these maneuvers that are taking place now testify to the fact that belarus is is going to participate in the second stage of the war and the opening of another front, although we know that this front was opened for the first time by belarus on february 24, 2022 , when troops entered the territory of ukraine from the territory of belarus, now it looks like putin managed to convince lukashenka to participate in the russian-ukrainian war, well,

pharisee, i think that no, well, you see even those potential forces that are trying to pull the russian federation there, well, they don’t look too convincing, because for every russian tank that will be redeployed there, and for every tank that is there, the belarusians have at least a few javelins. and you know how they like to meet with er russian armored vehicles , so that later they stay away from it. therefore, it is not er so serious a threat to think that you can attack with such forces unless you repeat the stupidity that the russians did in february when they marched in long columns to kyiv. well, what came out of this, in my opinion, everyone already

understood long ago, but if russia in the next on that the rake itself well, i'm just here in this case, i just want to repeat the words of our military that let's just move forward, we're ready and we'll show them where the pieces are on the mother, so i think that this is done exclusively in order to constrain certain forces of the ukrainian armed forces, to provide the opportunity to move between the east and the south. and what is extremely important for us right now. well, if there are 70,000 , then we have to keep at least the same number, it can’t be a little less but all the same, it is a large number of people, and that's actually what i think through these are all public statements about how many tanks there will be, how many bmps there will be, how many air defense systems there will be, and so on, and so on

, so that simply we can, in accordance with the number, even a larger number of our equipment, listen there and keep her just in case, because well, to tell the truth, well, i don't know, i'm not a military specialist, especially in the army of belarus, but something seems to me that the belarusian army has never looked like something extremely serious, and even more so in comparison now with that the experience gained by our ukrainian heroes, that's why i think that well, it's not like that, er, hmm, if you were to show physical exercises now, but they can affect the nervous system of young girls, but not anymore. in the nbc interview, lukashenko began to speak about his personal relationship with putin, he was asked about how these relationships are developing and whether

they trust each other. let's hear what lukashenko said about our personal relationship with president putin, but they were not always clear-cut. sometimes eh but how are the closest eh friends and reliable partners eh he once said that there is such a level of relationship between the president of belarus and russia. время наши работы только усливилисы украфилисы, we absolutely trust each other, so there are practically no problems at all, and who else would i trust more , lukashenko or putin? well, putin of course uses lukashenko, because we remember how two years ago,

after the presidential elections were held and lukashenko himself declared himself the president of the republic of belarus, we did not recognize the countries of the world did not recognize his authority last time . - will he still manage to get out of the water dry in this story? putin and look at his self-proclaimed self-proclaimed would

still be much more careful, because what he said now well, he actually signed up to the fact that he will sit together with putin on the dock of the international tribunal that will judge them because well, no one cares there is no doubt that putin and his political and military entourage are criminals. that is, it is not even discussed, the question is only how to correctly and quickly form this special international tribunal e so that it can start working. because uh facts in order to bring this whole gang to justice for this is not a diplomatic word, but it will be called in another way, it is not possible to have more than enough, that is, the crime of armed aggression does not need to be proven, it has already been proven by everything that is possible, terrorist attacks.

i think the league has already gone hundreds of years ago for an international specialized tribunal, and actually there won’t be a lot of work. that is, these are all things that , unlike previous such tribunals , are filmed, they are documented on the video tape is not even necessary, there is no need for any additional explanations. the prosecutor looks and sees what happened. not to mention what has already been recorded. and these are tens of thousands of crimes that have already been committed, so to speak the paper because he talks so much about his relations with putin with such bravado probably indicates that he still hopes that he will hide behind putin and that putin will force the west

to force ukraine to make some concessions, well, this is typical typical comprehensibility typical lovability eh because neither the west nor ukraine will make any concessions and you will not. and what we are hearing now with the consequences of the last one, rammstein is talking about exactly this, that is, despite all the attempts of putin there because of erdogan there or because of some useful idiots in the west to propose negotiations, they are rejected in principle, that is why they will not happen, it is very good that the president of ukraine has cut off the possibility of such negotiations by signing the corresponding decree. in putin and in lukashenko should really look at the situation around him and

draw the right conclusions from it. well, they will go together and go to the sub-tribunal and receive their life terms. well, in the best case, if they live well until then, lukashenko says again about what is in the war belarus does not take part and it only helps the ukrainians, we will hear today that our participation is that we treat russians and ukrainians, feed russians and ukrainians, and for the vast majority we present a refuge to refugees from ukraine, 400 to 500 of them arrive to us every day man, we fully equalize them in terms of rights. this is our participation, but we did not kill anyone there and we are not going to be killed . first of all, no one asks us to participate in this operation. in this case, russia

and we are not blindly drawn in. we always talked about it. and we're talking. well, apparently they don't want to listen to us and they don't want to hear. well, that's your business. well, you see how lukashenko appeals to a western journalist . what do you not want in your countries? what does he want in your country ? cynical lie at because it is interesting that putin and lukashenko have really lost the ability to really assess what is happening around them. well, he is talking about 400,500 ukrainians who arrive every day in the territory of belarus. yes, maybe , but they do not come there to beg political asylum, they want to either go further to poland or the baltic countries or return to ukraine, and here there is a conversation about the fact that they

are feeding someone there, giving someone equal rights and so on. well, this is absolute nonsense and it is absolutely a lie. then he says that they want to involve us. but we don't get involved. i'm sorry, but if the armed forces of your country attack from the territory of your country, even if it's not even of your country, but of the union state of another country, then it's something and that's why i'm the same i have already repeatedly called on our authorities to raise their eyes a little higher, so to speak, and understand what is with this country. we also do not have the right to have any diplomatic relations today. this is a country that helps our enemy, that provides its own airports and military bases. your training bases, infrastructure facilities

for storing the same fuel, and so on, and so on. influence in a different way if we don't go because we don't want cotton to explode there, how should it explode, because if airfield x is hit by rockets on the territory of ukraine, that means this airfield must be destroyed and these are obvious things that cannot be done react in a different way to what is happening but if we do not do this, then at least we should say politically that we do not want to have anything to do with this regime. it seems to me that these are understandable things, but why, mr. volodymyr, is the current ukrainian government in no hurry to make such a statement, why diplomatic relations with russia we stopped the federation, but not with belarus, well, mr. sergey,

i have been asking myself the same question for a very long time, well, the only human thing i have is what, in particular , it took me eight years to break off relations with russia in the 14th year. well, maybe our calls with you uh sever relations with belarus well, it will take maybe no no 8 or at least at least 1.5 maybe two years well, i don't know how to logically explain this i ca n't, well, that is a political decision and this political decision is made by the president there the minister of foreign affairs, the secretary of the national security and defense council, the minister of defense, and this should be provisionally brought up for discussion by the national security and defense council, this is a principled decision, this is a country that borders us, a country that threatens us now because there are russian troops on its territory, which we can be attacked by uh this there should definitely be a well-considered decision, but it cannot be that we do not react to what is happening

around us and pretend that, in principle, it does not concern us, it does not happen. thank you, mr. volodymyr , for the conversation. affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009, they talked about today's attacks by the russian federation and drone attacks by martyrs on the territory of the ukrainian state. well, friends, for those who are now watching us on youtube, i will say that you can join our sponsor club from now on this feature appeared to us, which allows you to help our youtube channel develop and make our programs better. below this video, you can see the sponsor button. you can donate some not-so

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development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch saturday's political club that saturday on expresso, october 25, 2022, zagreb, croatia. broadcast of the espresso tv channel every monday somewhere around 12:13, my name is obviously yuriy fizar, every monday i and my guests discuss the most important topics that have happened in the world and in ukraine we discuss so that you understand them so that you know about everything well, and before introducing my first guest, i want to remind you, as

always, that our program is broadcast on the espresso tv channel everywhere, wherever it is shown on the networks well, obviously in social networks, in particular on youtube, whoever watches us on youtube, please put your likes if you like the program, you don't like it. although i would really not like to like it. don't like it. well, write something because it is primarily important for us to know your opinion well and then it is very important for the promotion of the program that the more likes, not likes and comments, the more programs will be watched on the youtube network well, why don't i chatter let's introduce my first guest, this is vitaliy kulyk, director of the center for researching civil society problems, vitaliy, congratulations glory to you and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. i congratulate you. thank you for joining me today. well, you already know this somehow. it's ugly, but it happens that every monday

in my program i plan to talk about one thing. something happens that i start to revise my script . well, i start talking about the most important thing. iranian drones i mean in europe in particular that these iranian drones fly in our cities over our cities, hitting not only objects of critical and civil infrastructure, but also residential buildings, as happened, for example, unfortunately today in in kyiv, everyone in europe knows something is going on and threatens the border, but there are no real threats. how come there are no such threats? why can you explain? well, first of all, we are hostages of the great negotiations and the wound with the european union is related to the so-called nuclear nuclear agreement, the first is the second - iran e-e generally

occupies one of the sufficiently important places in ensuring security in the region of the so-called greater middle east and asia, and accordingly exacerbates the confrontation early in the morning for the european union e-e, which suffers from e-e problems with oil supply with general carriers is quite risky, therefore, at the moment , soft means of influence are being applied to iran, more diplomacy, less heavy sanctions, economic pressure, besides, there is also a political component , because now in the early days there is an internal political confrontation between various groups, one of these groups

used in the street protests that unfolded in the early days across the country to put pressure on the conservative member, that is, there is also an internal agenda in the early days that the party is also trying to use in order to get to power came there or people who are ready to hold a dialogue and carry out negotiations with the west came to the main positions in power, so here we actually found ourselves to some extent hostages of these negotiations, on the other hand, eh, iran denies that it provides russia with drones, although we have forms and there are almost operational drones with all the necessary evidence that their weapons are fighting on the territory of ukraine, but so far, it does not have the political will in the european union to move to sanctions. actually, i just

wanted to ask you my position later the question is just about kyiv, why until now, it seems like a few weeks ago, something was handed over to iran in ukraine, the iranian embassy is still working, there are still no such, you know , serious messages to the iranian service . that is, if this information is confirmed accordingly, it is still a serious enough bell, we are lowering the level of diplomatic representation in the morning, and this is already a step towards the development of even diplomatic relations accordingly, it may be the recall of our ambassador , the termination of the e-e, the reduction of the mission at the earliest e-e, the termination of certain actions of the e-e agreements early in

one or other spheres. that is, it is a sufficiently large base for us, and we mutually talk about mutual cooperation between the wound and ukraine, and this may be the next step, and the third step is the final step - it's automatic relations, well, continue , i hope that the first blood has taken the second step , really, it should be a demand to impose sanctions on tehran after ukraine has done its homework recognized this task, would have officially declared about uh, taken diplomatic actions, now there should be an appeal to the european and world community with a pretext to impose sanctions in relation to the supply of russian kamikaze drones to the russian aggressor, that is, complicity in terrorist attacks, well, you have already answered the question that i just asked uh, i was going to ask you, so now i will ask another question, but please tell me about the relations between tigran and moscow, this union, what can it be based on, well, i understand. you already said that geopolitics is complicated

the game there is very, very much politics, maybe too much politics, and that's why iran is not very afraid, but why is russia bribing tehran so much now that tigran, well, not even exactly, is not afraid of nagging him about everything, well, first of all, there is now an intensive rapprochement of the current leadership of iran with russia, this is due to iran becoming a member of the sco iran is increasing its presence on russian markets and its rank it is ready to supply ballistic missiles to the russian federation iran is already supplying drones and even more powerful drones are ready to supply which will be more kilometers for the flight, this is an expansion of technological interaction, this is an exchange of technologies, attracting russian money for modernization - this is a test of its weapons in combat conditions, that is, iran previously could not, in

such an array, in such a manner, test its weapons in combat conditions only in yes, i succeeded partially. but there is not the kind of war to apply to this . now i will show you and illustrate the presence of forces and methods of impression in the event of a military conflict against iran itself. he shows that he has this weapons through russia in this way, by the way, the iranian press also wrote about it in such a way, but the main interaction is really geopolitical - it is the formation of a new world order where iran must play one of the key roles in this region , that is, to supplant other regional players to be a restraining factor for turkey and to play such a system-forming role in the persian gulf,

reducing the influence of turkey and the united states and britain, therefore, iran is interested in cooperation with russia and is interested in russia has been weakening the european union and the united states collective action. so to speak, any conflict in the world where the west is an opponent is seen early as a potential window of opportunity to enter and play some small part in their own interests. it is not yet a military-political alliance between iran and russia because there is a contradiction in the same iran