i don't think so, so you're building them, er, this kyiv , er, mogilanska , what are you waiting for? they gave it to a certain pasha mercedes, or whatever they call him, he does all kinds of mischief over there. i'm just trying to joke, it's already five o'clock to get the game, you have to understand that even the most delicious jokes are becoming less and less dirty, but here, to be honest, i'm not much into jokes because andriy savchuk, for example, visited the police station yesterday. i understand that it is somehow connected with the bust of pushkin that we are talking about here . i have a word with you, andrii. tell me what is happening. just like that, the day before yesterday, he beat them in the police station. it is interesting that this one is without pushkin, who fell under the effects of gravity on october 12 in kyiv, and

they were actually interested in what i knew about it, and whether i could report there about any persons who allegedly carried out these actions. and i also learned that she was indicted -e 296 hundred all for the first the criminal code of ukraine is hooliganism just for the dismantling of the pushkin post. i remember there was a monument to such a beautiful andriy ivanov in the center of kyiv for a very long time, and it's just interesting that ivanov is such a girkin of the 20s at that time . who was exiled from petrograd so that he would commit a mutiny here and so on and so on and so on and then they go killed no or no not to kill, in my opinion he died even in moscow . before there was a revolution, it was not before that it's probably time to

put it differently, why pushkin doesn't belong in kyiv, your position on this bust isn't the only one. i remind you that there are at least 8 objects that should be demolished , some of them are simply hidden so they put up plaques, for example, and supposedly pushkin is no longer there, although it is enough to remove them and pushkin will stand in the capital again, in essence, pushkin is the russian empire, he was negative not only for ukrainians, but also for poles, he supported the genocide of the peoples of the caucasus, in fact, a person created an image of the german mazepa, but mazepa is actually a symbol of ukrainians of that time, because i remind you that ukrainians were called mazeps, so eh, should we

put a person who is an individual? we all saw the photos of the installation of the mariupol sign instead of mariupol and these photographers of plasticine shevchenko, that is, why glorify this person who sincerely hated ukrainians? the factories that were built, will we destroy mechnikova street there if a person did not have a negative attitude towards ukrainians and the rights of ukrainian chauvinists, so ah-ah-ah, as if otaka, here is a position er-er we are here by the way, today we mentioned lesya vakulyuk about the fact that er- some famous russian journalist, the opposition host of the tv channel dozhd, one of his posts dedicated to ukraine was a bust of pushkin actually, and he wrote that i feel i feel bitterness, and we know that the tv channel

dozhd positions itself as an opposition tv channel and all his journalists, and all his presenters, all the media people who work there also say that they are oppositionists, but when busts of pushkin fall, and in ukraine, it upsets them for some reason. well, we have a question, that is, he did not write what you know, i read today 1,000 children officially died in ukraine alone. i read today that only where in your country did they say today that this woman was hanged for saying that skadovsk ukraine he didn't say that there, uh, in the kherson region, again, the child was just running, small and russian occupant he shot her in the back in front of me in the market. god read the news and felt bitter. no, he wrote that he left. they say that the forces of gravity, if they were to be swept up, are found to be acting in

ukraine on busts of pushkin, this is just a confirmation of those words that this is a symbol of the russian world, if we look at it the whole of russian culture is permeated with russian broad-minded chauvinism, this is the greatness of russian culture, and russian power, and so on . and pushkin, and in russia nothing will actually remain , uh, many people say that this is supposedly part of our history, but stalin is also part of history, who killed millions of ukrainians, we are talking about the fact that in kyiv there is no such thing or a monument to him jules vernu naditah captain grant, whose hundreds of children you grew up with, millions all over the world, we are talking about the fact that there is a monument to pushkin that was erected on the anniversary of this pushkin right across from the place where the cathedral built by ivan maze ivan mazepa was demolished just as if mockery to this one

there is no ukrainian culture, and i even remind you that in the soviet union it was forbidden to translate pushkin into ukrainian, because this great russian writer named perets pushkin is not misha to speak there to a small russian bridegroom, well, we don’t have words in ukrainian lukomorya, what is there, what is there, well, maybe it was an onion, well, i don't know, we must come up with something, besides pushkin, this is the only problem, in particular , of the landscape of kyiv, are there any other such relics that would be demanded, which already, in principle, if you know, they call about half a century, you can say well, here i am, i was just looking, there is that monument again, everything seemed to be wrong with it, even good people signed who is on this pedestal, by the way, good people they sit

too and anyway, well, this is the impression that there is real opposition, there is real opposition. from the ministry of culture, call things by their names. it is better to call them like that. why do they cling to that shchors, for putin, oh god, putin, pushkin and all the other symbols? russian and soviet well now they generally say pushkin, combining pushkin and putin into one person. and the history of e and over time is a separate story in general, because in 2016 all the norms of the law on decommunization had to be fulfilled and shchors is a person who was actually a bolshevik leader who fought against the nr and pam' his representative should have been destroyed a long time ago, but many people say that let's leave shchors, he has a beautiful horse,

in general, he was supposedly pro-ukrainian, the bolsheviks killed him for this, and so much can be gained from refusals, that is, in fact, the law on decommunization and there is also a monument there, for example, to the crew of an armored train for the tarasha people, who are also actually soviet-era in general, historians do not find any confirmation of that history, but there are also about 75 in kyiv, 50 of them when voted by the kyiv city council as a list on the previous a-a for preliminary dismantling and it happened back in october. oh, i apologize in may of this year, but for 5 months nothing has happened, that is, in fact, there is a working group that does not work, there is a minkult that has already started sending subscriptions on its own , what should we do for russification we will deal with it after the war, which is supposedly not the time for that well, i think that no activist wants to

waste his time on what the state should do and communal workers should do. activists who want to cleanse ukraine of those symbols of the russian world because, in fact, when people die from russian missiles every day, it is absolutely visible to walk near these pedestals, and actually on these streets named after russians, which, as they say, not now but after 100-300 years ago, in the same way that the ukrainians despised him and called for him to be killed. well, it seems to me that this is the former . framework to say that crimea is ours is almost not to say anything at all, this is not to say that it is probably

necessary to ask the crimeans first and then all of us to a certain extent, if we are honest and consistent. and secondly, it seems to me that we are doing it right here we are talking about not just about monuments, they are symbols, but symbols. they have, uh, some kind of broader meaning, they are timulaxu with their pieces of paper, and that's why today when you ask what do you think , for example, about the statue of the mother's family in kyiv, it seems to me that today very clear, so clear, er, er, such a point of such a bifurcation goes immediately, there is a kind of lamp, that is, a person. well, uh , what do you think of andrii? she really is is ukrainian symbolizes ukraine, the question is complicated

, but i just wanted to make a remark about these things. for example, if we take shchors, many people say let's change the sign and say that it is kravchuk who allegedly sued for shchors, or let's say that it is konoval, but in fact, this is a half-hearted decision which only if they deepen the draft in this situation, that is, the russians will say, look, how inept the khokhlas are, that they could not even erect a monument to their concubine, that is, half of these decisions cannot be here, obviously that the dismantling of the motherland does not seem to have the motherland , it is difficult, although it is my opinion, i would like this monument from below is also a symbol of the russian occupation, but if we at least make the word decision and replace it there -e hammer and sickle on a trident this will be the beginning, unfortunately , there will be no simple solutions in our country, we

were under occupation for more than 3.5 centuries, our language was banned, we were physically destroyed, and well, perhaps this story should be reflected here, as with moses and his people, which he will let go in 40 years, that is when the time comes, we will actually come to the question of whether we need it or not. i remind you that only now are the last monuments of finland and at least balti the only one being removed, that is, there are constant triggers and well, probably, but look, they are now dismantling these monuments, or finland or latvia or lithuania or estonia, seeing what is happening in ukraine and in ukraine, that is, they are still acting in anticipation , why did we wait for the war? completely uh, well, finally cut down what

connects us with russia. i have a short answer to this question, that is, it is not simple, but more complex, and russia and russian propaganda, russian narratives, they have deeply changed many of us ukrainians it is difficult to distinguish what is ukrainian, what was planted by the occupier, as an example, the recent funding by russia of the actions of anti-vaccination companies, that is, the soviet union made such an obedient citizen who believes in what they say on tv, who believes in fads and what it is easy to manipulate, as a result, a large part of ukrainians perceives it as russian as a part of themselves, at least if it is not like that, that is, if the eyes were born, what did pushkin, who lived 150 years ago, do to you, with the same success, you can point out in 200 years and what did they do to you right now putin, who

started a war against ukraine 200 years ago, that is, ukrainians, it is very difficult to differentiate between these propagandistic myths, and therefore, if all these things are difficult for us, plus, there is some nostalgia from the side of the generation that was brought up in fact, she was born on pushkin, and she was not brought up on world passports, right andriy thank you very much andriy savchuk , a public activist, in fact , i know andriy very well, i’ll reveal the secret soon . oksana savchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, oleg hundy, people's deputy of ukraine, is currently joining us . a cool horse, to keep the horse and put something normal, shorter than the horse, we leave the acrobat, we

remove the horse from him, we put it, and on the horse we put a statue of konovalts, hahaha, everyone is satisfied. the horse is left . uh, sir, i forgot his name, tkachenko, tkachenko, you know what i am. it is a small observation that people who are older and for whom the soviet union was their childhood, youth and youth and cry terribly for shchors are people who were born a little later and found the end of the world, those who fight for their family, mother , so yes, welcome to veter. i don't know if this question is interesting to you or if you would like to speak briefly on the topic, for example, the statue of shchors and the relevance of its preservation. if you it is interesting, so we can say very briefly about it,

oksano, there were more than two hundred streets, and i managed to get 62 streets renamed in the last three years: somewhere it was added very easily, somewhere it seemed very difficult, you know use a lot of different appeals, but i am convinced that we must change. in addition to monuments, we must at least clean out our bookshelves at home and take away all russian literature from there. first, we can hand it over to the armed forces of ukraine today, and second, we can print new ones from the recycled waste paper ukrainian books, that's why your idea with the monument and scanned with yevgeny from konovaltsy on a horse i like it, you can choose shukhevich or

konovaltsy, it's a very interesting thing, that's why i think that decommunization must begin in the minds of all of us military people, not only military people, not only civilians, but first of all, representatives of the government, if it is finally in our heads, then it will also be in practice in ukraine, eh, where, where, where, where , colonization which are also considered, mr. oleg , you also have words in particular and what about this draft law, will his faction support pro- kovanization? it's fine. andriy, yes, look, i'll be simpler, a little shorter. he believes that all the monuments, all the awards that concern of the communist regime and the communist era must be removed from our streets and must be removed to separate such heterozyvores and museums where they must be studied, those who have the desire can go there to look at these works of the communist

regime, but there is no place for them on the streets to that woman with a sword and there they are group everyone there, there is a lot of space, it's terribly not comfortable there , you can either put tanks or those monuments, it will look good there, so i don't think that this museum should be, uh, in the capital, within the capital he should be somewhere out there, outside the large population, be reserved separately, and it is better not to do this in cities with millionaires. it will be difficult to transfer such a grandmother there, but you still support her, and you will support her when they are transferred. which we can sum up. the results of the session week, because we sometimes have the impression that the parliament is a little out of the news story, but what happened, what would you like to note, what was important decided

and to every question, air defense, let's start with you this year, well, look at the current time of war, every institution of the state performs its function, the most important thing for us now during the war is resistance on the fronts, and this is carried out by the ministry of defense of our armed forces, and in fact they together with the president, they create an agenda not only for themselves, but in general for the country and for the parliament, our function as comments now is to help, and in this status, if any changes to legislative acts or any resolutions are needed, we will do so without delay we vote for this in order to do it , moreover, the parliament today still has no right to be an absolutely independent institution and no right to conduct any independent policy from other authorities in general, because it is not the time, in fact, we must work together and coordinate all our actions of course, this does not mean that such

people's deputies of the presidium should not give their advice there. they should give their vision and should give proposals. but in the end, the final decision should be made by consensus and in the consultations between these branches in order for us to choose our independence. therefore, it can be seen that the parliament has taken a back seat, but it is still not the case without the parliament, without our reason, voting, including with ms. oksana, most of the bills and decisions which ones are needed by the state to approve the bloc, it is impossible, you know , recently we were, uh, we watched, uh, lesya showed uh, this is the polish sejm and one of the pro -russian deputies. they arrived. they are now a problem for poland. they will do all sorts of things for us here and began to accuse their opponents of allowing

ukrainians to accept ukrainians to poland so that they would later vote for them in the elections, but they immediately interrupted him. and said to moscow, go to moscow. everything was already closed and he went to moscow. it was so beautiful and hard. i even thought that god, i missed the parliament. as the russian former speaker also said that parliaments are not a place for discussion that i have already missed such parliamentary discussions a little, they are generally ongoing now in the parliament, how hotly these or other changes are being discussed, that's why we see consolidated results and understand that there is support absolutely now eh. if ukraine ukraine is first in this war and you know what i to make separate decisions, where we ask the tv channel rada resembles the parliamentary tv channel

rada, which was created primarily to cover the activities of the parliament, we ask it to cover one of the votes. that is, it is actually a limitation freedom of speech, i am convinced that in the war, of course, everything must be consolidated, i am convinced that only those people's deputies should be in the parliament who really understand that ukraine is at war today and that it is fighting with the russian federation, in fact, for its own victory, but i do not support it what the rada channel cannot cover in a replay and everything that is happening, who says what, who expresses what, but only some isolated speeches, as today we voted for ukrainian society to see that the parliament does not support all these actions which are hostile to us today is iran and we will have sanctions applied against it. and we appeal to the european community. and also, i

would like to emphasize one of the bills that people were interested in knowing. this is all that concerns residents of the russian federation . introduction today, the parliament also made a reference to this law and said that if you still need to contact and take control, it is people who, for example, sell real estate for more than €10,000. these are those who have access to valuable antique items, if they have not declared them, they may also be subject to these sanctions. it seems to me that all these things are very important and civil society should know about them, at least in repetition, and this i am convinced is a big minus that today the parliament is closed to ukrainians and they do not see who is doing what , and there is at least one faction of the collaborators in the parliament, the psj is still calmly trampling itself. we as deputies, for example, i

personally do not feel comfortable working with them in this i am glad and i think that the law on lustration is very urgent and it will also be another law that will be accepted by ukrainian society very well. well, this ukrainian society should turn to the parliament because it would still like to know how the parliament lives and what are the lives of those people whom they delegated to represent their a-a interests in that parliament well, i think that ukrainians should take the list of deputies, but we can show them those who voted for the council meetings not to be broadcast and ask your brothers and why you hiding from us. why don't you want us to watch you in the replay? why don't you want us to watch? how do you vote, for example, or what do you talk about, for example? i am convinced that this society should give an assessment

to those who cover it from their eyes, a lot of people ask me, reset the agenda, what did you vote for, because we don't know, we don't know what new laws you adopted, we don't know what new things you corrected, and uh, that's it one-sided opposition and therefore me i am convinced that these meetings of the council should become available in a replay for everyone in the full volume of the meeting, the full broadcast, such as they take place, how we voted for closed or open , we voted, it seems two weeks ago or three weeks ago, at that time i was in gdansk at the forum of the free peoples of russia at which they planned how we would hold referendums regarding the buryats and kalmyks obtaining their independence and sovereignty, so at that time i was not in the verkhovna rada, you were not lucky , why were you lucky in the end, let's face it

that there are many tools in the state. if a person wants to know, a citizen of ukraine wants to know what his deputy does directly, he can understand it, see it, and get more attention, here are some of them. how they do what the council accepts , people can find out if they want. moreover , during the meeting, no host can ask questions to the questions and bring them out into the open. here we have magical leaves sitting here, andrii, which are not they can ask us a question and we will answer it. espresso uses fulfills this role much better than oleg. you have it behind your back . they say that addressing mr. oleg is the vocative case in the ukrainian language, but i checked . i don't know. maybe i'm wrong, but the dictionary he says to oleg , that's why i'm doing as the rules say. you see

, if there were journalists on the sidelines, we would definitely see these bags protecting the windows . journalists would see something like that, plus they can approach the deputies and ask some questions, it's inconvenient. this is also an option, it is not necessary for the presenter to do this and it is not necessary for people to search for this information somewhere. journalists who are mediators between the government and the people do this for them, so it still seems to me that i am just one of yours answers, i understood that even if you voted and were present and were not in gdansk , you voted for these meetings to be closed, i will explain why, because in our country, deputies very often use this platform to simply show off and actually make a hole by delaying the adoption of the vote is the way it is. this is what happens if we want a more meaningful professional discussion. this all happens, for example, in your

studio . by the way, regarding the entry of journalists. it is impossible, including for journalists, but nothing prevents journalists and the tv channel from using their immediate first function to inform the society in the same way as you do it and to charge for it as a model, there are no problems with this. by the way, i would be glad if she broadcasted in that form, this is a security issue, including today. believe me, i'm not offended. it's

normal . why? why? point of view and that point of view can be different, only voting means us, that is why these discussions are necessary because there are different points of view and to hear and understand which point of view he is inclined to and who actually helped him to understand this issue. right now you are probably constantly being called to some very important vote, they are detaining you andrii, literally, a small retort, but mrs. oksano spoke very truthfully about collaborators and traitors in the form of former members of the pszhnaya party, i fully agree as well sign that they should be deprived of their mandate, but look. now we really think that ukrainians want to see shufrych or dmytruk, who tear off their shirts for ukraine . the picture

that olezhe said is what he wants and will call your site, but you are not, you are not, you are not neglecting their votes when they are necessary, for example, to support this or that law. they are quarreling, the truth is that they are not fighting there, well done, but they are quarreling so fiercely and it is nice to watch because you understand people or something else or something else and there is someone who there is no war and they are not in danger of a missile attack sorry, these are different situations, long the tradition of the parliament is much longer than in our country. by us thank you for being with us bbc decided from the beginning and it was not immediately accepted as a good idea