one for the russian troops, that's why they're basically playing to get ahead of themselves, and i'll say it again , they're trying to say part of the truth so that later there won't be any questions in the villages, well, this is also connected with the fact that the holiday is now. well he became the face of this company. i understand that, that is, now he, what is his previous status, all the teams, were the occupation troops, the invasion troops, some such shadowy generals ? he is no longer just a face, he is officially the head of the entire company, which is a military company on the territory of ukraine . well , at least a grave. well, because it’s obvious that these are

actually murderers and they’ve beaten the murderer, but uh, now they’ve put him on display. i’m sure that dozens of focus groups are being held in russia right now discussing this performance. media juice or not to make or come up with karshinkov two for him or show that it's simple everyone understands that you played your role to the stomach well, he already lied too much in order to continue to love something from him, that's why they will now think about the face of this company, it's clear, mr. volodymyr if we don't talk about russia, let's talk a little about our internal problems , uh, they are now calling the police to the public activists who, well, they don't like busts of pushkin, they are in favor of keeping these busts after all pushkin were dismantled, or well, that is, everything that we have left from the russian

empire that captured ukraine and what we have left from the soviet empire. and now they are being called to the police. to terrorize public activists at a time when the war with russia is going on, at a time when, for example, the occupiers in mariupol are destroying a monument to the victims of the holodomor right away, well, look, i would like us not to adapt the situation here, and first of all, the word nightmare is something the other is the second i personally am in favor of removing the pushkin monuments in this country if we are talking directly about specific situations. i am very sorry that the kyiv city council did not make a corresponding decision to dismantle certain such chickens . i am very sorry that all other councils regions of ukraine did not make a corresponding decision, therefore, in this case, i thought that here it was necessary, after all, to picket the relevant authorities

, to appeal to the mayors of the city and to say that we demand the destruction of these animals and i will repeat myself once again. i believe that these monuments should not be on the territory of ukraine, in principle, just as we were in kyiv for 4 months, but this is a matter for the local authorities, and now i think it is more important er, apply there, but how to apply again and reorganize some actions, if actions are mass actions, protest actions, pickets, they are prohibited in wartime, petitions can be made, meetings with deputies are possible, it is possible to sign up for a meeting with the mayor of kyiv, it is possible, and dreams of another city are possible it is possible to write down groups of activists, groups of serious public organizations, it is possible, it is possible to ask to contact the espresso tv channel and dozens of other publications so that they support this action, it is possible. i think that there are civilized methods for

solving this issue. monuments, and in the end there were precedents with petitions when citizens of ukraine and citizens of odessa, in particular, petitioned the president of ukraine to do something with kateryna, and the president directed it's for the local government well, kateryna is still standing and it's not clear when she is, that is, also for kateryna. i believe that this monument has no right to exist in the country, but now we need to enter into civilized norms, that's why what if we start creating chaos now what is here uh inside the country it can lead to very negative consequences what uh thank you very much little by little we will now move on, this information about what the russians are continuing is interesting to assert that something will happen to

kakhovsky with the kakhovsky hpp, something will happen to the dam and what and what will this mean? will they somehow destroy it, blow it up and why are they doing it? well, this is also very interesting information that we will now, right ? consider yes, we will talk about it well, we remind you, maybe there are russians in our country, somewhere there, maybe some russian bots there will hear, they will tell you, surrender yourself as a prisoner in ukrainian captivity, eh, they feed you well, they take care of you, at least no one offends. well, according to the russian propagandists, they tried to extract from e- is prisoners of the russian military who actually came out of them were taken to the exchange, they tried to get them out of them what, how, how they were abused there and there was nothing beautiful about them, there is a video that i can show you now, and we will show it, such well-fed guys of the russian army

who got into the er, feeding ukrainian captives, let's see . and nothing happened if you look at those of our ukrainian soldiers, our defenders, who are returning from russian captivity, well, heaven and earth, heaven and earth, because we see and we see and we know the testimony of those people who return from there that it is very scary there and that the russians are just arranging uh inhuman terror and what they are turning our

people into, so they know that they will return from the llc to captivity, they are so spoiled, they are already used to a good life, no one is bullied, they are sent home there everyone is mocking literally from you know there from the conductor in the tram to there i don't know to the mother-in-law and so on or so on they watched from our captivity and what happens to them in russia after that because according to the soviet tradition it was so often when the defenders of the soviet union were taken prisoner somewhere by the germans. and when they later escaped from that captivity and returned home, they were immediately sent to some camps, like school traitors from their still soviet school, we had such a poster in such there were some kind of military training, something like that, well, no, no, it’s not the time for the battle,

they just didn’t know the time, and there was a picture of such a soldier, yes, a soldier, and there were soldiers like that, and because it is written, the soviet soldier never surrenders to the enemy, the last cartridge he leaves us a small child for himself. it was really very surprising. i thought what was the point of just killing myself. i don’t know how it helps the soviet union, but there was always a cult of death. they prepared these suicide bombers. look at all the poems taught in schools. pioneers, that's all, there's blood, death. do you have to die, sacrifice your life for whom, for the sake of the leader, and so on and so on. but in reality, nothing has changed in the russian federation, as our colleagues write on the finsp show. nothing special they just came to the kindergarten, er, some er,

these russian killers and show the children how to properly kill this automatic machine, you have to shoot the children, and that’s how it means, that’s how i protect it, that’s how you swatt a fly from there, yes, no, that ’s good i look at all of this and think, oh my god, who are we dealing with? it's scary if you look at their parades, where they dress up children in some kind of gymnastic clothes, some uh, tanks, these strollers are converted into tanks, they have some kind of cult, just a cult war is some kind of cult of warfare, that is which is very important. this is very necrophilic. hmm , russian society, but they have russian culture , among other things, what is interesting, what is interesting. that is, if you are familiar with the so-called russian great culture, have you listened to hmm these russian lullabies, then there are

always those lullabies in our lullabies about something the little gray cat is sung at oh, there is a dream near the windows about a mother rocking her baby so that the baby sleeps, so that nothing disturbs her sleep, and in russian folk lullabies, e-e, write- sleep, tomorrow the lady will die, we will bury it in the for lullabies it’s scary, or even cuttings and volchok will bite you on the barrel. so here we have a cat when he’s still the baby and quietly walks on his tiptoes so that sometimes he doesn’t break, and then he will come with volchok while you’re sleeping and bite you on the barrel and that’s it, we’ll die anyway yes, nataliya gumenyuk, head of the center for the defense and protection of the south, contact us, we will ask about the situation in the kherson oblast ms. nataliya good morning glory to ukraine i congratulate you glory to the heroes eh what do you hear from the kherson oblast,

a fighter joined us but says that not very a lot can he said that he can't say almost anything because everything is a military secret. no, it's not just that they are very busy, preoccupied, there is no time to talk and they have to do business, so they get their work done, they continue active actions, they continue to break the enemy's defense scheme, they continue to oppress them by continuing to advance the promotion is not so fast and not so simple, but it is a very powerful work of consolidation in those territories that we have already liberated and further planning, further promotion is what it should be very well-grounded, but not so much with the ground now , because the roads are washed away by the weather, there are still two more, the weather is becoming powdery, but considering the fact that

the equipped replenishment of the enemy army is not very fresh, it is also hot for us, since we know that the russians are being suppressed more and more often the artillery of the ukrainian artillery, and that's what he told us. actually, a ukrainian serviceman became somewhere from this direction of kherson today . but does the russian aviation remain a powerful factor here? i didn't read it here today. sofa experts of your skarlus university, what did they say, soroviken is mobilizing a million e planes that will now completely change the situation in the kherson region or will change to try on these maneuvers, but when they send their alligators to us, they go astray and not just go off course, they go astray at all

are lost by our originators and pass uh-uh absolutely unnecessary scrap metal uh, so you should not be afraid of that aviation, we understand, we realize that the enemy still has power, in particular aerial, let's say it's drones and missiles and the use of the same planes, but still, our countermeasures are quite effective if we talk about the electron attacks that continued that night, the powerful mykolaiv region was attacked and 14 thrones were shot down because, er, they joined in, what a vivid example all security forces - this includes air defense, naval forces, the national guard, and even the national police joined and 15 years, 14 years were destroyed on the approach to mykolayashchyna, this is a very powerful indicator

as of yesterday we had a ratio in the south in particular of 170 drones shot down 37 hits therefore this er says that even the drone they presented as invincible and not you which cannot be detected on approach we also served mrs. natalya er these occupiers call on the ukrainians in kherson to evacuate, they take them away, they run away and all the time they threaten that the ukrainians will do it, the ukrainian side will blow up the dam of the kakhovka hpp, but nevertheless, i suspect that it scares people very much, what can be flooded, the territory is flooded, their homes are flooded, and how should we react to these? that is, what they attribute to us, they will do it themselves, as a rule, what

they declare as a provocation by the defense forces of ukraine is what they are preparing to do themselves, in particular, do not be afraid and panic. should, because you just need to include a cold calculation and logic , eh. look, if you compare the banks of the dnieper geographically, for example, the left bank is a little lower than the right, so where is the logic if the population is evacuated exactly where all this is supposed to flow the water is being evacuated for flooding, well, the question arises , that is, something is underestimated again in the russian propaganda, something, some kind of daisies, so the russian propaganda affects the ukrainian connection, we hope that we will restore it, i would like to hear

listen if there is that shore where are they fleeing to, it is lower that if they will blow up this dam and it will flood them. well, i asked the actual tree on which they are sitting. you can see that the right bank is much higher, accordingly , in this case, there will be a spill in the other direction on the left bank, and so natalya simply says humenyuk, so it is unlikely that they, er, have exactly that but but but why are they saying this anyway or is it in such a case that all these stories about the undermining of the kakhovo hydroelectric power plant are only about justifying their possible retreat, it is boring and that is the maximum the effectiveness of their own propaganda in their opinion, in order to divert attention at the moment, it was necessary to switch people's attention to what is most vividly imprinted in their

minds, that is, to the preservation of their own lives, but what they proclaim, we must balance with our information company we communicate with people. of course, not all of these actions are absolutely complete. but if it calms you down, if it convinces you of a more or less stable future and ensures your life, we are talking about the fact that this is the greatest value, evacuate, but in view so that it does not turn out to be the same deportation with which it will be very difficult for you to return later, therefore you need to be aware of the consequences that may be behind this step of response, there are currently certain possibilities , they are not very great, but there is an exit from the occupied territories. if you manage to use them, please use them.

there is an opportunity to avoid these means of evacuation and stay in place by moving to another settlement, for example, as they say, by confusing the tracks, so it is quite possible to find a way out, it is not easy, but it is real. i understand correctly that somewhere such figures are called that there are still up to 25,000 russian troops on the right bank, if we talk about the kherson direction, and i do not know how correct - these are the numbers, they are called, these numbers were correct a few months ago, our summary - this is a significant correction on our part, it is this amount. therefore, you should not trust exactly this amount. it is slightly adjusted to us,

including our control. why do we not announce it, this is precisely in order not to spread panic, there is no such power, but there is still strength there uh, there is work with them not only from above, but also from the middle , such a moral, psychological, very powerful work is being carried out, as a result of which uh, supporters of the same special operation in the kherson region are becoming fewer and fewer , so is there such a possibility that uh, now everything the evacuation announced by the occupiers of the so -called evacuation and the civilian population will be used in order to also cover the departure of these soldiers so that they will not be fired upon when they cross the dnieper to the left bank of the population,

this is an attempt to create a denser population there too population in populated areas where it will be possible to create their own defense under the cover of civilians, and that is exactly what they are counting on and that is why they are dragging people to the other side in order to create populated densely populated areas there, which in which can be placed by their personnel and equipment units. thank you ms. natalya for the conversation here, our viewers also thank you. they really promoted you. they wrote. we sincerely thank the spokeswoman of the armed forces of ukraine, and this was the head of the press center of the defense and security forces of the south , nataliya gumenyuk. we also thank our viewers . it's nice, uh, and our speaker, too, thank you, serhiy zgurets, military expert and

director of the defense express company, is already with us. good morning, mr. serhiy. good morning, vita. what are you going to start with? a little later, we will move on to kherson oblast, yes, although this is also information from kherson oblast, the institute for the study of war says that even these recruited from local, far-away places are russian prisoners, they are fleeing the battlefield with weapons and do not want to fight is it possible to dissolve it as some kind of complete demoralization? and is it possible to count on the fact that these people, these recruited prisoners, will not take part in the war and will return to their homes with these weapons already there, they will do to them not a simple life of use the option of replenishing the personnel at the expense

of e-e prisoners, in fact, according to a certain step, we are always for the russian side, because, of course, all measures are connected with previous attempts to stimulate people who went to war for money, they failed, and then really with a set of criminals who mainly went to wagner's units, but we see that after a certain time even the russian army began to compete with wagner's group to recruit criminals to serve in the russian army, but we see that the criminals themselves have a different vision of their of the future and they really think that this is a chance or to escape from the punishment that was imposed on them by the russian federation to find loopholes to stay alive and therefore the examples you are talking about are included in this concept, but we remember that the russians now have such a scheme at first there

are criminals for the first time, then they will be mobilized to the ex-knitted but already mobilized. there is an army of personnel who will shoot at the mobilized later if they do something wrong, so this is the necessary option it is impossible not in retreats, the same is practiced in the russian army, in fact, all these are signs that the quantitative indicators of low-quality personnel do not affect the combat capability of the army at all, on the contrary, they create such internal problems that will continue to scale in the russian army, although the russian authorities are now trying to create different options by scaling up his power by introducing these decrees on the state of emergency and other things that putin and his clique are now trying to implement an unusual state, what does it give or what does it testify to, it already means that we are already starting in the real way, how about there, well, as if to say that they are mixed or

not. when we talk about mobilization, then mobilization is a complex process and involves the transfer to others rails and er defense industry and civilian life and then the recruitment of personnel turned out to be such that this er mobilization was only hmm er why fights she showed that er russia is not able to provide them er everything is lacking and now these problems er -e are now transferred to e regions where martial law has been declared the state where the actual governors, and most importantly, the military chiefs in these areas become the main ones in order to, on the one hand, completely suppress any manifestations of freedom there, and on the other hand , use all the levers in order to satisfy the needs of the e-e mobilization in the broad format this difference in time, to be honest, it

looked strange, but now we understand that they are looking for options, at least in some way, to support the possibilities of ensuring this human mobilization, how will it work, the more military tension in russian society and in in russia as a whole, the sooner the destruction of this framework will occur, because there are currently no such prerequisites for the economy of russia to start working for the military more powerfully, and in fact there will only be such tentative attempts at the expense of the regions to provide the needs of those mobilized there with food, apartments, housing , that is, cars, and that is, these things will now be resolved at the level of these regions, and as we

can see before, it was not effective. but for some reason, it should become more effective now. significant doubts, i.e., the difficult solution in the kherson direction, which was said by general surovikin, who is now officially responsible for the war in ukraine. what did he have in mind? this part has been bothering me for a long time. i am inclined to think that this is actually the creation of the prerequisites for the withdrawal of the russian group from the right bank where is the dnipro? statements about the mining of the dam and the possibility of fake detonation. where is the dam? this is precisely an attempt to create an outflow of the population to actually ensure this deportation under the pretext of which russian troops can also be withdrawn. the other part of the experts, they really think less

that in fact, russia is still preparing for the defense of the right bank and, on the pretext of this, let's say , the population's statement, it will still establish its troops or receive this bridgehead in the future, although from the point of view of the military logic of logistical needs, it will be difficult enough to ensure this grouping with forces that the spokeswoman of the southern command actually spoke about the measures currently being taken by the ukrainian army on the one hand through the stage of striking and land operations are mentioned a little less now. but in any case, they are also the second stage after these active phases of the next active phase of the strikes, and i think that there are all the prerequisites for pushing the enemy out of the right bank and but it is interesting that

the actual statement of this cheesemaker began to be almost unanimously supported by all the bloggers talking about the fact that this is such a correct decision, there will be no simple approaches. 481 said about it and this is our single-family home. by some kind of informational cover for some more insidious actions on this bridgehead, including an attempt to use it as a bridgehead to get further because strategically this bridgehead is important to them. because they need to continue, conditionally speaking, to prepare for offensives, but there is no court for offensives. ambition remains, if this is really preparation for the speech, then this will actually be the third serious retreat of the russian federation, but they will also have to provide informational cover for such a big provocation that in principle well, i'm a bit worried, there's literally a minute left, and what's happening, for example, in the

zaporizhzhia region, in mykolaivsk, and in other regions of this southern direction, yesterday they literally said that there are 6 km from nikopol to the advanced positions of the russians, are there any changes possible before the end of this year, in your opinion, we are very short. well, i think that the zaporizhia direction, movement on and control of the same er-e field is extremely important for both sides in this conflict, because now it is the main one, these cancellations of conflicts are the main er-e hub which, in fact, under our control, completely cut off all communication possibilities of the russian army, in fact , it is the key to controlling the entire south. i think that the ukrainian army general staff knows about this, but when will the measures to control this key be implemented? well, let's wait, what will we wait for

? the director of the defense express company was with us. this will be the end of our second hour of the espresso marathon, but traditionally at this hour we always remember those who lost their lives because of russia launched a full-scale invasion and launched this war against ukraine. so, a moment of remembrance, let's remember everyone, let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was unleashed by russia