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now, instead of 300, they are actively using these british chess and mopeds, we have already heard many times at night. they do all this, that is, now at night, instead of s300, they launch these iranian drones, and we even saw there today. yes, in some public places, even russian experts were chatting there specifically that they use iranian drones in the occupied territories, you are right, yes, 17 populated areas were shelled by the russians this night, these are all the same populated areas that are on the line combat clash in relation to the conversations of the russians about consultations with the local population, well, look at this . masters of double standards, they are now actively bringing their population from russia to the territories occupied by them from countries from the countries of the territory of the
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north caucasus, that is, the regions bordering ukraine and sub objects of the federation here. they move whole families, then the russians will discuss something with these people under the camera, they will consult and create the picture they need, that is, for the russians, the usa is, well, absolutely not new practice, they actively made this presentation, resettled, as we remember, entire peoples and nations from one territory to another and then carried out some incomprehensible manipulations with them and so on. that is, we are all ready for this , we monitor and watch all this absolutely normally what worries us the most, my legion of freedom, we are monitoring the situation , is that the russians will now actively use such a direction of terrorism as biological, what i mean. we have received reliable information that large parties on in the territory of the zaporizhzhia region, this
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russian fuflamycin of the satellite type is messing around and asking for an anti-covid, this is their chatterbox, and they will be active now. the former polyclinic in all communities that they occupied, respectively, is now under threat to the life and health of the population in the occupied territories, well, this is actually a problem and quite significant. i hope that forcibly inoculating with it is not known what will happen to our population in the occupied territories, but at the same time, we understand that leaving the occupied territory of the zaporizhzhia region will be significantly more difficult in connection with the martial law that putin allegedly declared yesterday , a very strange regime in fact, which means that it will be extremely difficult to leave, which means mobilization
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among the population of a specific region, mr. kostyantyn, what are the ways out of the occupation situation remaining for functional people in your opinion. unfortunately, official humanitarian corridors are not currently available there are many reasons why i work, but it must be said that there were many questions to the humanitarian corridors and to the ukrainian side regarding how they were organized there, we all remember certain actions about the security agencies that dismantled uh, this population has the opportunity now uh we sometimes see that the occupiers simply forcefully evict certain citizens of ukraine from the borders of the occupied territories. currently, this is one of the few options, let's say, of a conditionally safe exit
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from the occupied territories. or maybe sometimes humanitarians are breaking through there, and the occupiers really are now under martial law for them, or as they call it, the counter-terrorist operation is fake , they use it firstly for the forced mobilization of the local population, and secondly, for them, it is a legal way of wringing out any property, conditionally for of their military for defense needs, but in fact all this property is simply exported by the occupiers through the crimea or through the occupied border regions of donetsk region outside the zaporizhia region, and they actively export, in particular, any equipment and what moves, what is possible, roughly speaking, quickly somewhere they push somewhere in some border markets and so on and so on and besides , they are looting civilian buildings in the communities occupied by them, mr. kostyantyn, maybe
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you know something about the situation in energodar, energoatom reports in particular, about the fact that the occupiers are taking away ukrainian property just as actively from there a few days ago, i don't know if it was a hit, one way or another, we still have to figure out what it was in the administration in the city of energodar, in meri, a russian missile hit it, they themselves are conducting the shelling. confirmed information for all 100%, the goal is the same, uh, well, they are first from the territory of energodar shelling the communities of dnipropetrovsk region, nikopol marganets, so that all viewers understand, they are being shelled from the territory of the energodar community, the goal is to cause return fire, and they themselves are shelling energodar from for the purpose of pressure, intimidation of the local population and the creation does not
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perform for them e pictures thank you for this work for this conversation on our air kostyantyn denisov fighter of the legion of freedom zaporizhzhia direction was in touch with us. well, we are moving on. and we note that the enemy is obviously not all right with aviation and aviation capabilities, and it would actually be . we recognize and work on the nuances that we have instead of what we see happening with the occupiers at the beginning of october the russians removed and stored up to 15 mig-29 smt fighters in kursk and more than 20 mig-29 mig-29 mig-29 mig-29 aircraft, a very interesting location in general. i think that not everyone remembers, but at the very beginning of a large-scale invasion, it was at this
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airfield that there was cotton, and actually, with us , bohdan dolinetsa, an aviation expert, mr. bohdane. congratulations, glory to ukraine. so let's start with the enemy's aviation, it is actively working along the entire front line we see this , our military signals to us from the ground, at the same time, we regularly hear from the air force command about the downing of enemy planes and enemy helicopters, in particular, and how do they really have isoaviation capabilities before the war and if honestly, i thought that russia had a good margin of safety in this direction, but we see that they are protecting their pilots now and are ready to take them out of captivity and with planes for anything. everything is also not so good if they are forced out of the airspace of our country and in fact they are trying to strike from the
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russian federation or from the occupied territories, please look, we see several components of this issue, first of all, we are talking about pilots, because training a pilot is a very long and expensive process. and of course, they are always very valuable and from the point of view of their release if they are captured. from the point of view of their preservation, because it is almost impossible to quickly replace this personnel, it requires hundreds of hours of flying in social simulators, it requires years of training. of course, it is appropriate. with certain requirements, including criteria for health these are significantly higher than against civil aviation, here is the other side, we see that the removal of a part of the aircraft with storage can indicate that it suffered a fairly large number of e-e strikes in the aviation component here, in order to ensure security from external
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enemies, not only is meant the possibility of participating in war, but also to ensure the security of other regions, as well as the possibility, for example, of using aviation to suppress some kind of internal rebellion. they must have a certain minimum amount of aviation equipment. those losses that were incurred during more than six months of the war, they were quite significant, which requires deconservation and other techniques to close this need. if we talk about flights exclusively to territories controlled by the russian federation, including captured territories, then we are talking about the fact that our air defense system is quite strong today, they are afraid to fly into the territory of our air defense systems and, besides, even these uh, helicopters, planes that uh, fly near the
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front line, we will look at the information about the downing of certain pieces of equipment there, it says that they are effective even on the front, including the systems there, uh, portable anti-missile interceptors complexes of the secondary system that make them afraid and not to fly into the ukrainian territory controlled to this day. well, look at the planes taken out of conservation, this means that for their pepper, let's say, they are an application with a claim to some effectiveness of this application. it is necessary to carry out a certain work, which is also and expensive and time-consuming in any case. is everything okay in the russian federation with the repair of such things? and the flight of non-flying aircraft, we see that we are talking about the restoration of old types of aircraft, that is,
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those aircraft that were still produced in the soviet union , that is, the elemental base and technology specialists for the production and maintenance of these aircraft in the territory of the russian federation. we just do not hear information about the possibilities the production of new aircraft of modern generations is due to the fact that the sanctions that were introduced significantly complicated the possibility of not only the production, but also the repair and maintenance of existing aircraft more modern ones that were already produced there after the 90s and the same thing was updated. by the way, we see not only the price of the equipment, but also with other types of weapons, including tanks. that is, their e-e deconservation, modernization occurs only to the level of soviet samples here, if we talk about the number of equipment in general, then of course, there is a huge number of aircraft in a state of preservation, there are hundreds of them, even there, if in general, by all types, then you can
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talk about 1,000 or more planes. but together with we are we have to understand that we don't know how all the planes were stored, in what condition they are, maybe a huge amount of equipment that is in storage warehouses , they are actually most of them unusable because there is a very good example of the united states, which is accordingly called the airplane cemetery where thousands of american airplanes of various types are stored, but there the airplanes, before being sent to storage, their systems are preserved, fuel , lubricants, pneumatics are so rotated with a special with a protective film, it is even painted with white paint so that it does not overheat, of course, we understand that in the russian federation no one stores airplanes in this way even for tens of years while they were standing on the ground somewhere in the open air under the influence of the sun and water in fact a large part of a flower can already be just scrap metal. bohdan, let's
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talk a little about our air fleet. in our country, for example, two ukrainian planes crashed, another one crashed in vinnytsia, and we have pilot raya, who did everything to get his plane away from houses and populated areas, thank god he ejected himself, and in in any case, we understand that such incidents occurred in such a short period of time. what do you think this could be connected with? well, first of all , an investigation should be conducted regarding the causes of these incidents, and only it will be able to adequately say what happened most likely the results of this investigation will be classified. it may only become known sometime after the end of the war, but on the other hand, if
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we talk about the equipment used in general, we must understand that it is soviet equipment, which of course was well maintained. it was modernized as much as possible, but it is still for those of the old previous generation, of course, they have a significant number of clocks. here are the sources for such in ukraine, they were not produced and were not supplied for the needs of the armed forces, and even we saw the information that there it was possible to restore some of the planes due to the supply of components there, e.e. buyers abroad, but still we are talking about the same planes that were in storage, which were in service , and still ukraine needs modern new planes because the plane with an increase the number of raids and its reliability decreases. it still loses certain properties from the point of view of the effectiveness of work on the battlefield without fail and even if you compare the planes there and the
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ukrainian pilot, they are absolutely asis in this there are no questions, they are simply virtuosos of their work. but in order to effectively resist, we need to have the appropriate modern equipment of the appropriate generations, which will be a head above the soviet equipment that is in the russian federation. well , mr. bohdan, finally, we see how they are now changing the general the military picture in our country, unmanned aerial vehicles, in particular, those used by the enemies, they call it geranium, i call it iranian for obvious reasons, because it is iranian drones and finally finally eh in fact, janstoltenberg, the nato secretary general, reported that the north atlantic alliance has no doubt that iran is supplying drones to russia and is monitoring the
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further actions of tehran. at the same time, countering them is much more expensive than using them against the enemy, and this is also a problem . information about the fact that in the future they will use arash-2, it is also a uav and as far as i understand, the same from iran, mr. bohdan, what do we know about these unmanned aerial vehicles, is there any information about that information, what is there, of course unfortunately, the cost an air defense missile that destroys a drone is tens of times higher than cooking the drone itself, which costs tens of thousands of dollars and, of course, in a large number of carpenters, they first of all try to exhaust our air defense system so that in the future use more serious and more destructive
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weapons, including cruise missiles. that's why it's a rather difficult issue. we need to have a large number of cheaper systems to counter such uh with relatively not very complex means, but at the same time it's very dangerous because they carry 40 kg of explosives like hir-2, on the other hand, if we are talking about the possibility of supplying more serious weapons, about which i spoke once, it is also, in principle, a sparing ammunition, but the range is much greater. that is, you are talking about beehives there, it can perform tasks at a distance of up to 1,000 km, depending on the type and configuration, and of course, such an air defense system can, in principle, be comparable to a cruise missile. thank you, mr. bohdan, for this analysis. bohdan dulin, this aviation expert, was in touch with us about the enemy's and own aviation in a nutshell, well, now we are in touch with
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taras zoftenko, an expert on international security, mr. taras . i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. from the data provided by official sources, there is an understanding that the advance of the defense forces continues in kherson region, there is an understanding that the situation in donetsk region is difficult and our defenders are trying to hold key population points, the enemy is pressing and doing it mercilessly, there is also an understanding that there is no understanding of what is happening in luhansk oblast, somehow, there is a bit of a veil over this topic, in any case, mr. taras, and please place your accents, and how do our fronts look like today, please, actually, the operation the counterattack which was launched by our defense forces from kharkiv in the eastern direction and parallel
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to this other part of this contour offensive operation is developing in the southern direction in principle the pace of the ukrainian defenders’ advance has slowed down a little. for today, but well, it was actually worth it to expect because well, at the very beginning, when the russians were fleeing from kharkiv, it was clear that they absolutely did not expect such a development of events, they did not expect such actions on the part of the armed forces of ukraine and actually the fact that they ran around like chickens in the yard throwing equipment and actually depriving the command of the eastern group of russian troops of the opportunity to use these same troops which, well, if the russians retreated in a more organized way, theoretically they could be regrouped a little and, for example, sent to strengthening of either the southern direction or separate e-e vectors in the eastern direction still there in luhansk region or in donetsk region, but since it did not happen at all, it is clear that if this resource was additional for the russians
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lost for today, we see the situation when in the eastern direction they begin to arrive, these so-called men, yes, they threw the first part of what they wanted in the southern direction, because, well, for the russians there, the situation is much worse, and secondly the fact is that the southern direction is for er russia from the point of view of such a political and strategic point of view, it is much more important than the east, er, the east is now used by the russians exclusively to bind the ukrainian forces , first of all, not giving them er continue a counter-offensive operation in this direction, and secondly, giving the possibility to the armed forces of ukraine to transfer additional reserves to the southern direction in order not to make the situation for the russians there simply catastrophic, well if the same thing is obvious that the same tasks are being performed now by this so-called joint of the regional group of troops that the russians have formed with the belarusians in the northern direction too eh well, obviously the task is to try at least eh for a certain time to keep
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a certain part of our troops in the northern direction in order to insure themselves against a possible attack from the north, that is, in principle, the russians today are trying to, well, somehow relative to their quality of training and equipment. but nevertheless, this is simply manpower, which is also a factor on the battlefield. and now, uh, the russians are trying, obviously, taking into account the situation in the south, to understand how to better use this resource, that is, it is clear that in the east he is performing a deterrent factor. but the russians now have very big questions and very big problems. as far as i understand, the situation in the south is different because it is on the world shore that the russians really have those military landings, in particular, on which they can
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rely, but on they have already stretched the left bank, mainly the mobilized meat, therefore, in principle, we can, well, understand that they will try to save their contingent from the right bank, but for some reason they are not in a hurry, hmm, still, taras, if we talk about official data and figures , what they will lose if they do not come from the right bank, they will simply be destroyed there, how much their southern grouping will become weaker, well , you are definitely right that on the right bank, the russians have left these remnants of their professional army, which well, in principle, they were given the task of getting this direction, getting this right bank part, eh, in the southern direction. well , eh, it’s actually obvious that the russians are preparing to at least try to take them away because, well, na at this stage, i think that the command of the
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russian groups in the southern direction and in the eastern direction and the same general surovitin yes, it is already obvious to them that the quality of these mobilized e-e of this mobilized russian meat and, accordingly, the quality of their training equipment well, the first and the second don't allow us to be sure that these mobilized people will at least somehow change the situation on the battlefield, that's why we heard very specific comments from the same man who said that well, obviously you have to to prepare for difficult decisions in the southern direction. so that the situation is very tense. obviously, this is an attempt to prepare the russian population from the point of view of such an ideological, propaganda, so that the russian population will have to retreat officially and in an organized way, that is, to try to save part of these professional troops that remained on the right bank. well, i understood that it is the russians,
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taking into account all the negative points of theirs , they are simply in the flow from the kharkiv direction. i think that here they insure themselves separately moments in order to make this blow so that it would not be as painful as a retreat, for example, in the kharkiv direction or the situation with the estuary, yes , i can ask you, as a person who works in the information field, i am now watching how well, let's put it this way, the attention of the average russian, a russian citizen, is diverted from the failures of the russian army at the front to the fact that they are hitting rockets with rockets at our energy civil infrastructure, and this is definitely a victory for the russians. that's it somehow the emphasis is very much shifted eh hmm what can this lead to in your opinion because at any moment putin may
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find himself in a situation where he just needs to hold on to the chair just to have the trust of his internal population or eh hmm, i don’t know if he will leave the front, to put it bluntly, in fact, simply continuing the missile attacks on the territory of our state, yes, really, now, in the information space of the russian federation, he has completely switched from the situation at the front to and here are the missile attacks on the ukrainian civilian infrastructure there, even if you read russian official so-called mass media, well, there you can even sometimes see more operational information about air alarms in ukrainian cities and regions than this, well, if we could see in ukrainian sources, official information, really, putin now i will try to... well, let's put it this way. on this situation with kherson, i will test a slightly different approach to my own propaganda and to presenting a loss as a
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victory. one part of this experiment is actually this shifting of the emphasis on information. space, so, well, if the ukrainians have ukrainians, the ukrainian side still suffers losses and what the russians are doing without regard to what is happening there on the battlefield. that's all. it's still a victory on the other side . that the russians may be preparing a sabotage operation there under a foreign flag, potentially accusing ukraine of another act of terrorism, and in this way, on the one hand, they will cover their families, on the other hand, they are in the information space from the point from the point of view of propaganda, they can also claim that this was not actually a retreat. and we again caused another economic, social, and so on losses to ukraine. most likely, these two moments will be too parallel in russian propaganda, and this is the shift of attention to the russian strike missiles and drones on the civilian ukrainian infrastructure and this is a potential possible move
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by the russians with the sabotage of the kakhovsky hpp and, accordingly, the additional infliction of even greater and greater losses to the ukrainian economy and the same civilian an object, and of course this can be presented by russian propaganda as a victory, even despite the fact that the russians left the right bank, as long as putin will have the opportunity to use the circumstances on the battlefield in this way , playing with russian propaganda, we must population and showing the losses as returning them to the other side under simulating victories, he will be , well, his positions will still be strong to a certain extent, but only he will stop doing it, or it will be obvious that the situation is completely out of his hands with out of his control well, then this will be the beginning of his very quick end uh, uh, the information field of the russian federation now looks completely different in the context of the nuclear capabilities of the
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russian federation, and it seems to me that more and more propagandists are hinting at the fact that uh it is wrong to lead to the use of nuclear weapons in general, and russia is not interested in this. well, i think that the evolution from the kiseliv radioactive ash to what the average skabeev says now, well, it is actually obvious. but nevertheless, we must understand that uh in any case, if they have such an arsenal , then there is a probability of its use to one degree or another, and our western partners, in principle, are trying to mirror this, although they say that the situation looks ordinary, since october 17, the northwestern part of europe is undergoing nato nuclear deterrence exercises stable noon participate in these exercises 14 it is about working out the mechanism of using e-e nuclear weapons without actually nuclear weapons weapons without warheads
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very briefly mr. taras, is this a certain signal a signal from the russian federation or just a kind of response to the realities of today, this is definitely a very serious political signal - it is the reinforcement with practical actions of all those warnings that were conveyed to the russian leadership at completely different levels through official and unofficial channels, what will happen if the russians try to use nuclear weapons or tactical or strategic in various scenarios, and it is obvious that the unofficial warnings to the russian leadership were personalized as much as possible, to the point of being detailed the entire ship is painted and very short, the further fate, yes, the further life and the finale of this life of the key russian leaders who will make these decisions, and this is one of the reasons why russian rhetoric is nuclear, it has temporarily changed, although this does not mean that they are to it no, they will not return because they have if we should
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not forget that even though this is a full-scale war but nevertheless it is a hybrid war where the russians use absolutely all the arguments and absolutely all the tools they have at hand if they they feel that now it is better to talk about nuclear weapons and threaten them with them, they will do it without regard to the real situation to how much it harms them. well, these trainings, in this context, they simply reinforce the determination of the west and reinforce the fact that all the consequences that were announced to the russian leadership were not simply voiced as scenarios for the west's response to nuclear blackmail . and this is a practice of already absolutely real actions within the framework of those scenarios and warnings that were voiced by the russian side, i thank you, mr. taras, for such high-quality analysis. it was taras zoftenko, an expert on international security, who joined the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. and now he will be joined by a team of our journalists and

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