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these frozen assets will be transferred to ukraine . it is almost impossible because there will be a lot of people in the united states themselves who will try to get these russian assets as compensation. it can, on the contrary, hinder ukraine and in principle this is an argument. it has a certain basis, it must be understood, although of course if to look in general i think that ah this status is what it is, it will be more to the benefit of ukraine, because as i said, it will help to introduce secondary sanctions, it is more effective and, in my opinion, it is now more important, of course, sir professor, we agree with you, but on the other hand , we understand that in the european union, not everything is as clear as it should be, the situation is about the condemnation of russian crimes and the reaction to them, the rather dynamic debate position of the european parliament, in particular, in this
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status of russia as a sponsor state terrorism and, in general, the reaction to the iranian drone program testify . some companies are involved in something, and we are afraid of one thing that this may mean that a large part of the european states is a little out of breath. we do not want to incite panic, you understand, and so on. but maybe there are such processes, or is there still a feeling that the european union will be ready to fight to the end because if you listen to silvia berlusconi , you understand that the hair on your head starts to stand on end and how it worked, for example, the real political kitchen in the same italy. audio recordings of berlusconi that were also made public by italian journalists. no, to say that there is no such problem is
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normal. it was a lie. there really is such a problem. well, perhaps it is not as critical as you say , because even the same italian, for example, the next prime minister, is already openly said that the last one in italy will not be a difficult external examination in the european union, she will support these sanctions, but definitely there is definitely fatigue in a certain part of society in europe of the war, it is all the more so that this winter will be difficult, and all the more critical how is it that russian propaganda is trying to convey that everyone there will freeze to death and of course this will not happen, that is, europe is preparing quite actively , even with these gas prices have begun to decrease, because in principle there is already enough gas, that is, europe is quite active and successful dieting deliveries and that is, all this is resolved, but the usual one is certain about it, it is still certain. in a part of society, and this must
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definitely be taken into account, it is necessary to be very active on the information fund so that the entire situation of russian aggression in ukraine is ukrainian so that it is constantly the focus of the eyes of european politicians and society as a whole, that is, it is definitely necessary to work on this. well, this is not a problem of ukraine only, any conflicts when it drags on at a certain stage, of course, a certain kind of habituation occurs. donor fatigue is also present. everyone who worked in international organizations which humanitarians know that there is such a thing as being full of donors. there, donors also get tired of helping, but still, i feel that in general, in europe and the united states, there is a consensus that ukraine should be helped because everyone they understand that if russia wins in ukraine, it will not stop and then they will have to fight on
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their territory, and of course they do not want that. in addition, it will be a very powerful signal to all indicators, then it will be possible to say that we are almost there. it is certain that communist china will try to enter taiwan to seize him, it will also be such a green light for all other dictators around the world that international law does not work, they can do whatever they want uhu, that is, open this pandoring box, who does not want to, then probably not even the point is only that they sympathize in ukraine and simply understand what the consequences will be for us here, they will be really beautiful because it will simply collapse in the axis of our world order. therefore, after all, in this matter i am more optimistic than pessimistic, but still, there is a problem. to take it into account and work so that, as i say, the ukrainian
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issue is always in the field of vision . in view of our discussion of the sanctions situation in relation to iran, well, if the question arises, why do these sanctions look so meager , what does fantil notice? we talked to our experts in the middle east, e. can we then talk about some normal restrictions, boys, for russian oil, the market is for sure. it so happened that mainly oil reserves are not exactly in those countries that have one or another problem, that is, because there are democratic countries that have many nato. well,
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there is norway, well, the united states. if we impose sanctions on all of them, then there will really be a trail without oil and no one will go for it, so they are trying to find some options so that the sanctions are the most effective. and if they are covertly imposed not by russia, then by others the country's programs need to understand that early on he is already under sanctions, he is also one of the record holders , the sun is probably a little less there than in russia now, but still, it is quite difficult to add something there, in fact, as you know, there were certain periods when there was iranian oil, but now if on addition to the russian one, add morning, indeed, it will probably be very difficult for the world economy there. well, a
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situation arises in which sanctions need to be imposed in a good way, and on the other hand, they need to be imposed on states on which energy security depends simple folk wisdom of this area, but we thank you professor for this extremely professional analysis devoid of populism clearly and reliably in estonian yevgen tsibulenko professor of law former head of the ukrainian community of estonia in the years 17-19 worked for you a short message minister of defense of great britain outside the streets today he will speak in the parliament with a statement about ukraine, he made a planned speech after he went to the economy, met with the head of the pentagon of famine and, according to some data, the party we immediately met against the backdrop of fears of a threat from russian president vladimir putin, so we are waiting, yes, we hope that we will begin an analysis of the current international military situation with people's deputy yehor chernev,
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deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on national security, head of the verkhovna rada's permanent delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly, congratulations you , mr. people's deputy, and on the air of the espresso tv channel . well, what do you think the minister of defense of great britain ben wallace and his american visavi yes, we understand that russia appointed the aleppo-based cashier surovikin to the post, who began to talk about difficult decisions, and so on. and so on. and to what extent we understand some unconventional decisions on the part of russia. well, i am absolutely sure that our partners on both sides of the atlantic understand the state of affairs in ukraine and understand that the russian federation is currently changing its tactics, in principle, its strategy.
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we were aware of such an option that is currently being played out in ukraine, they were one of the options on february 24. i mean that first the entire energy system of ukraine, the military infrastructure is completely knocked out by missile strikes from the territory of the russian federation, and then the equipment comes in, but they on the 24th, as you know, they chose a different path. they thought that they were waiting for them here. putin decided that, in principle, in three days, why uh, why uh, why uh, why uh, why destroy the infrastructure there, texts, and so on, because they will come here and rule, and it is possible just quit there now they have changed their tactics now they are trying because of such terror to force us to sit down at the negotiating table and
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surrender i don't know what they are there what are they counting on absolutely clearly we understand that they will not succeed i think that just like that and including this was the subject of negotiations actually by two heads of the defense virus in the united states and in this you sell how in this you come up with countermeasures including we understand that they are not the only meetings in rammstein that many which is resolved in fact, at the level of both public and non-public bilateral relations of many countries, we hope for effectiveness and, let's say, tangible replenishment of our capabilities on the battlefield, meanwhile, putin 's martial law in the occupied territories, let me remind you that yesterday he announced just such regime we are talking about part of the kherson zaporozhye regions, about part of the luhansk and donetsk regions, as well as in
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the regions bordering ukraine on the territory of the occupied crimea, the regime is of a special type we are ready there, in case it is not clear how it will be correlated with the rules laid down in the russian legislation, which have in the regime of normal martial law. nevertheless, we are aware that our people have found themselves in a situation of double martial law, one way or another, because in ukraine he introduced for objective reasons already at the beginning of er spring at the end of winter to be more precise well, russia is imposing it just now population to the depressed regions of russia and changes in the ethnic composition of the occupied territory, which is a crime that should be condemned by the united nations, well, the resettlement program is exactly what it's called, but the gauleiters say evacuations.
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we have some data, but where and in what quantities are ukrainians being taken from of these territories. they are trying. well, first of all, let's really, er, talk. what, er, is some kind of absolute legal megillism, because they are implementing some laws, some kind of martial law in the territory, it is unclear which status, that is, they allegedly accepted these territories there, within the framework of which borders to the russian federation, to which borders does this state extend, well, that is, it is such a complete, complete erosion of statehood that is currently going on in the russian federation. and absolutely not an imbalance from the fact that they do not understand what at all in what way can you still oppose ukraine's passage of the armed forces of ukraine, which are advancing and leaving populated
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place after populated place? that they don't understand how and what to do, and regarding the resettlement, uh, to date, we have information that it is still a more voluntary evacuation, that is, they say, let's go, when they say to rest or where to uh for a while, let's move. and i understand first to the left bank of the dnieper in kherson, then maybe to the crimea, but then again there from the crimea. they closed the borders of the crimea a long time ago for local residents who cannot influence the territory of the crimea. i don't i see some reality from crimea people leave, probably not all categories can afford it, but in general, even on the same crimean bridge, traffic is moving, moving is happening. i am talking about the local population of crimea. and
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that is, those who are not residents of crimea can come in and leave. and those who are residents are just that. because of the fact that they are preparing for, relatively speaking, mobilization of more or full mobilization in crimea. and we saw that they, uh, just like that, they brillianized a lot of individual tatars who have always been against the russian government since 2014. that is, this is a violation of all possible conventions of international but as always from the side of the russian federation what is new let's say in the white house putin's decision is called a desperate tactic to establish control germany considers it another sign of putin's weakness in any case uh-uh or i don't know the organization of the united nations has react quickly to this history of the organization to react, but while there
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, vorobezion is sitting as the russian federation, except for reactions and statements, unfortunately, we will not receive any actions, because there are all prospects of expelling the russian federation from the un security council after accordingly, maria adopted a resolution in the overwhelming number of european parliamentarians present, calling russia a terrorist country and placing responsibility for everything that happens in ukraine . on the illegality of the stay of the russian federation and the delegation in the security council, on the other hand, if, for example, we go this way, well, it is unlikely that it will be productive, because it will mean that the fact well, because the people's republic of china demonstrates its position and so on, that is, then the organization of the united in general disappears as a mechanism that
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unites the main sovereign states of representation in the world. so here, so to speak. there are two sides to the coin, and one side is the one you say, and i think that i am in the united states precisely from this position . the platform for negotiations is other countries of the world and this platform is exactly the other side of the coin , which is exactly what we are promoting, after all, the exclusion of the russian federation as the one that violates the basic rules of the un charter and which is not the legal successor of the ussr we actually have several ways of depriving such a right
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of deprivation of a place in the un security council, and if we take the history of the un, there were two such precedents, one related to his slavia, which was the socialist republic of yugoslavia, then it became just the republic of yugoslavia and when the name changed and the country changed let's say so, it was obliged to apply again, that is, the un did not recognize the legal succession of the socialist republic of yugoslavia with the republic to say the same well, not the same, there are also chinese scenarios where until the 71st year aa was the un, and it was in taiwan as the republic of china in the 71st year, and the place was taken by the declared prc, the people's republic of china , and there were also disputes about who should be
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their successors, kainer proved there that they should be the successor in the fight against the un, so there are precedents. i think there is something that well, i know that our diplomats are working on this, they are working on developing a position and a legal legal justification, and i think that in the near future we will see such steps, statements from dear mr. games, finally, i would like to ask you if there is a feeling that a normal, effective mechanism for helping ukraine in the critical period of the heating winter season may appear, we understand that it is not for nothing that the enemy is systematically destroying our energy industry as such 30%, president zelenskyi announced the figure, the
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capacities of our power plants have been destroyed, respectively, further. well, that is, the first plan - this is, of course, the availability of all components and all capacities for the quick replacement of what was destroyed by enemy attacks, if this is a reserve fund for this which includes the necessary e-e spare parts, the necessary equipment, including from our partners who help us quite quickly and send transformers there and so on and so on and so on plan b is indeed also being worked out so that all the main social social institutions i have
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i mean, first of all, hospitals, they already have generators and heating points, that is, the worst-case scenario is currently being worked out, in which if there is no electricity at all in our homes, there will be points where you can get a and warm up there to eat and charge phones and get a connection and so on and so on and so on well, that is the worst-case scenario, it also works hmm thank you very much, mr. yehor yehor chernyav, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on national security the head of the permanent delegation of the verkhovna rada to the nato parliamentary assembly arrives at 3:50 p.m. right now and we are on the phone viktor shlinchak head of the board of the institute of world politics mr. viktor congratulations to you and glory to ukraine congratulations colleagues heroes glory to ukraine during filming
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of the new series game of thrones, that is, so very, very so, the elephants are not bad. yes, you know. more and more often, when we talk about the russian federation as our enemy, exclusively as our enemy, we also add the component of iran, because the drones that are used now provide an absolutely fair wound. against us, and perhaps it may even soon be ballistic missiles, so the world is thinking about how to respond to this little by little, very precisely . we even have certain sanctions against iran in the european union. well, of course in the meantime, it is not enough great britain and france at a closed meeting of the un security council raised the issue of supplying iran with drones for russia, in the usa they said that they have no doubt about the origin of kamikaze rounds, which russia has recently used massively against ukraine, they are preparing
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sanctions against iran, we can see that they are exclusively against physical individuals and individual companies, as we understand what is really important here, what can be imposed on iran so that it becomes clear to them or that it is possible to lie to a civilized person the world is not ok and that, accordingly, the aid to the aggressor country also has a certain responsibility under it, e.e. the fact is that if this issue comes to the un security council, it is at least already a very high political level, and accordingly, when we now hear well, it’s just that kicking russia too that there is no need to conduct any e- research of these drones and there is no need to send independent experts from the un so that they really confirm that these drones are of iranian
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origin, then we perfectly understand why they want to do because they are really fully aware that the origin of these drones will be established, accordingly, here enters the next stage - this is the fact that there is an embargo on the supply of any weapons from iran and veran, it was approved back in 2015, of course, but it was a revolution of the un, which in general should be carried out by any country that is a member of the un. at the same time, if russia spits on this resolution, iran is de facto also interested in involving russia in the fact that the two of them are already answerable to the world and accordingly we now we see this duo who wants to fool
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the whole civilized world and tell us that they do not cooperate at all. there are many sources that confirm that it is indeed supplied from iran, not just drones and components. then there will be a question in which country they are then assembled i do not rule out that we may witness the fact that some other country may be involved in this process, but let's wait and see if there will be an investigation. and actually, when we talk about whether additional sanctions will be imposed, but the european union has already introduced them, they are of course symbolic for now, but nothing. on the one hand , on the other hand, i agree with mr. editor
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klinchak. what is really the information that ira does not directly send drones, but sends a complete set of component parts, possibly also its engineers, so to speak, who this is all before they are soldered, glued with tape, and provided with explosives and sent to kill ukrainians, but i have a key question. what are they afraid of in iran, according to our respected expert, so that for them annoying, yes, we understand that until the european union will chew the sanctions snot, you understand, in the case of iran, he can still rivet a couple of thousand of those drones and it will be a never-ending story, you understand. we need to do in order to remove iran from this floor of the russian game. i think that the first thing they are quite seriously afraid
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of is the intervention of the west in those internal processes that are currently taking place in the council itself, and they for them, this is a much stronger threat than the sanctions that were announced today, i predict that these processes can really take place in iran and they can really end in the fact that the regime that exists in the early days will be weakened quite a lot, and this is what they fear the most. well, let's hope that we will have some kind of mechanism that we will start releasing from our medsets, so to speak, the next candidates for the post of iranian ayatollah. history is our preparation for the energy blackout that the russian federation wants to deploy
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with the help of massive strikes on our critical infrastructure, and the key question is what we can expect from the west, in particular from the european union, because this story is not about weapons, not about some fmmer putin lines that he regularly writes through his emissaries that way. well, we understand the reason for the lack of rocket attacks there, but here we are talking about the support of our state in the critical winter period i waited for a few minutes while the honorable people's deputy explained that in our country everything will be predicted and everything will be clearly created. but i think that the cabinet of ministers should have anticipated such things and already held consultations with the europeans for a long time in the first place queue with the countries of the european union in order to provide us with, you know, such an energy lend-lease, and it's not just a supply
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of some energy carriers. and i mean components for the restoration of certain power plants or substations that are currently well, you yourself know in what condition after the missiles hit there, and it seems to me that this is a story that was lying on the surface. that is, we all understood and by the way, our intelligence said that the russians would hit critical infrastructure facilities, so it was necessary from the very beginning to start looking for alternative options so that these objects could be restored as soon as possible. and was this done or not? well, because the story is extremely serious, we understand that well, it may snow there for a couple of weeks in a month we understand that the russians will continue to try to
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destroy the oil and energy system, well , we hope, of course, in god and in the air defense systems that will be supplied to us by the euro-atlantic community, but here we need to make some urgent and extremely fast decisions, as far as i know, all the same, all decisions are being made now from the wheels and, unfortunately, they tell me that the sources are in the verkhovna rada that which representatives of the people's servants appealed to them with the initiative that let's start doing something already, and they appealed two and three months ago they said that we don't have money for this now. well, i think that, in the current situation, the money did not increase , on the contrary, it became less, because of that, it was necessary to harness the cart in the summer and hope that somehow we will still prepare for the of this
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history and not after the fact to solve the burning issues well, that's how to prepare the sled for the flight thank you very much, mr. editors viktor shlinchak, the head of the board of the institute of world politics, worked on the live broadcast of the information and analytical marathon with the best ukrainian experts together and to the beautiful, intelligent, responsible, energetic khrystyna yatskiv, so without sex, i can’t have it, it’s like my birthday is today, for god’s sake, although it’s not my birthday. thank you, burkovsky, i’m sincerely glad that you’re back at this table. i won’t ask the rest. so that our viewers know and understand even more - this is really the case now news time is not espresso, it's time to find out what's new in ukraine and the world in the last hour, until we saw our beautiful
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