belarusians are happy to meet such people there, we will hear lukashenka, they did not expect lukashenka at all, they accepted the bribes of the units. this is how it should be everywhere, our fate is such a second option, war , believe me, i can’t run after everyone , persuade them, do your work conscientiously, everything else is mine and we will never fight. here are such statements that he will never fight, it is possible that he does not know about who and how he will fight, it was said that in the conditions when russia actually absorbed belarus

lukashenko is solving this and lukashenko was solving this at the same time, mr. volodymyr, we see the formation of such an axis of evil from belarus and russia to iran, well, at least three countries can be said to be part of this axis of evil, a concept that was introduced by bush the elder if i i'm not wrong . tell me, please, what can stop it or what can protect the world. i'm not telling ukraine from the formation of this axis of evil from three countries. i think, first of all, it's the total isolation of these countries . sanctions are deep economic they there are already, of course, not against russia, there are sanctions of the security council, it is against the wound, there are international sanctions,

but unauthorized security dates against belarus , so that's all there is, here is the difference in what, for example, iran, like yesterday it was stated during the consultation in the un security council by some countries that iran simply by this supply of drones, what we did not say there if he had not refused without this , it is exactly the same as the russian delegation, which also said that it is necessary, they do not have any financial zones russia itself can do everything and produces, well, that is, well an outright lie, but hmm, at the consultations, it was stated that if iran thereby also violates the un security council resolution on sanctions against itself , so what? i think that the answer will not be long and i am sure that in the coming days we will see such a sharp increase in the regime of sanctions

against it. it is more difficult for russia and belarus to understand that with their own right, the methods of this will twist any resolution, even if such a resolution is introduced against the sanctions against itself, uh, international well, of course, it will support and protect belarus but nevertheless, this does not prevent the united states of the european union and not all other countries from imposing such sanctions individually. well, by the way, canada has just imposed additional sanctions against iran without even waiting for the decision of the security council. i think that now we are actively talking about the prospects that have appeared that no one even thought of six months ago or even a couple of months ago. of course, it's more difficult, but i repeat once again

that a few months ago, no one even wanted to talk about it, so much so that it was considered unrealistic , and today it is already being actively talked about every day . and in the morning, or ask questions about the non-recognition of the powers of these people 's declarations in international organizations, well, and a lot more, for example, canceling visas or not issuing visas to citizens of these countries at all. is this is a rather complex mechanism of the san-pion regime, which i think is precisely the promises to help iran somehow get out of this regime. did they bypass these sanctions and

become the reason that iran agreed to supply them with its road, but one thing in the early days when it was perhaps not enough evidence that this paradise zone well today it's just ridiculous to talk about it because you care so much and i know that we have already transferred all the information about this to brussels and washington and in this way we will prove guilt or complicity early this question literally, for a few days i have this formally and officially. well, informally, it's all clear even to the mass media. well, today there was information that the european union introduced chess against the developers and manufacturers of iranian drones and three generals from this republic, that is, there are already the first reaction, but this is , i understand, the initial reaction, correctly. of course , this is the initial reaction, because, well, this reaction is a jam only

uh, let's say the very sphere of production, but uh, the fact is that, first of all, these dons are probably already there collected in warehouses, that is, it is about how to prevent their supply. well, i think that this question is clearly not for the open air, but i am absolutely sure that, uh, western intelligence and our intelligence are actively working on this. i think that there are means in order for this to be, well, if not to stop it, then at least to make it as difficult as possible for iran, for russia. such things, and by the way, you named three countries in this place of evil . north korea, for example, as far as i am concerned i know from some sources that fact, if you remember, there was a conversation a few weeks ago that russia was also contacting north korea for the

supply of certain weapons and, in particular , which missiles are in north korea. well, how do you think they are of low quality there? they were not, but they have them. north korea refused, which is not surprising, so why did they refuse because china persistently asked them to do so? this is related to the question of china's influence . we may not like china's position 100%, it seems to us. that china little supports us or there it is not enough or he is on the apple of his eye but in fact it is not quite so china does everything quietly and calmly in chinese and i will not be surprised if this is true information that he simply actually prohibited the koreans from supplying these missiles to the russian federation well, for example, he prohibited his company from supplying some there are certain technologies of russia that can be used for the production

of other weapons by the same countries, so there are ways to stop them. and what can be done with the belarusians? i think that just every day are happening on the ukrainian-russian front, eh, what is being done by these miran bedrons, it seems to me that it opens the eyes of even those politicians in the west who eh, well, you probably know wrongly until the end there is also public opinion, for example, if in the united states, 75% of the population, according to a recent survey, not yesterday, but recently, after 5% advocate and advocated increasing the provision of military allowances to ukraine in the countries of western europe this number the difference in dependence, uh, well, from country to country. i

think that after the shelling of kyiv, that after the destruction of major cities of ukraine, 40% of our energy no, this is the structure, well, public opinion is about it, the support of ukraine and in western europe hits increases. well, and well, what is important is that this information will probably finally reach those countries , those countries, well, which are far from us, which are far from this war, uh, what is the most important thing that there is no war, that it all ends as soon as possible and among them, well, the same india but i i think those pictures are what are shown all over the bbc, and people in these countries and in africa, latin america , that is, the pressure on the governments of these countries will also increase, because if

we are talking about a total war against this axis of evil, then of course, well, such a barrage or isolation should be joined by opening education . also, i think that this will also happen much faster than they think about it in the kremlin or in minsk or in tehran, mr. volodymyr, in the world we see many conflicts between states, that is, but usually these conflicts do not cross a certain boundary, and even in wars, the two sides do not use the same tools used by the russian federation . which can provide people with heat,

the fact that you mentioned this 40% of the critical infrastructure of the energy structure, which was destroyed by the russian federation on the territory of ukraine in the last 11 or 12 days, shows that russia wants to impose new rules for resolving conflicts, military conflicts, or let's say new rules for waging war, because if russia continues like this, then within a month we will actually be without electricity at all, what do you think or who can stop the russians from destroying this infrastructure for the restoration of which well, it is obvious that more than one year will pass in ukraine. i think that unfortunately, we cannot hope for any diplomatic ways, because time has already proven that neither

putin nor the russian military listen to any there were conversations and uh, well, remember at least uh, even before this massive attack began, well, absolutely such an uncivilized massive attack on the infrastructure of ukraine, who did not try to be a mediator, well, as they said in the ukrainian-russian conflict, and berlusconi and the president of mexico is the same elon musk, for example , well, with this respect, even the president, well, hedogran, at least, has achieved certain successes in such, well , relatively small matters, too, namely the supply of grain, the exchange of urban prisoners is small, these are important things. but it is clear that they did not lead to stopping this war, but at least there was some er

result, but please note that for the last 11-12 days, we have not heard any ideas of mediation, negotiations, ending the conflict , er, this is happening precisely because, apparently, all er people i mean, not only in western europe and america, but also in the whole world, they have already understood who putin is and who the russian leadership is, and in general, what is today's russia. that is, it is a country with which is easy to talk about. nothing is impossible and it is unrealistic. that is, only a military defeat can stop them. well, then the husky court or, as it is now fashionable to say, the mariupol court, the future tribunal is due to be international, plus

compensation for all that if they smoked in ukraine. so, once again, i am speaking diplomatically today i don't see a way out of this situation, but the military. i see, first of all, an increase in the supply of weapons to ukraine in ukraine, and it is clear that, first of all, this is the supply of such weapons that will allow us to fight more effectively with these volumes that is, against missile defense against, well, anti-aircraft artillery, against drones, and anti-missile defense, which we have today, but it is simply not enough physically, because it is clear that it will take some time, but we must not forget that, by the way, in russia, this is the stock of rockets is not inexhaustible and sooner or later they will run out how uh, i understand that this does not make it

easier for us but nevertheless well, at least there should be some small amount of optimism in this because they will not be able to subsilence forever, you mentioned about that western aid and aid means air defense can change the situation, and obviously it will change. over the past few days, we have heard many statements from members of the israeli government, who said that if iran supplies shahida drones to russia, then israel can help with air defense or should help with air defense, israeli defense minister benny hans said that his ukraine still excludes the supply of weapons to kyiv and says that israel provides ukraine only with medical and humanitarian aid and is limited to that. at the same time, ukraine

officially asked israel for air defense systems that would allow to fight the drones used by russia in the current war. how would you evaluate or characterize the position of israel and, er, rather restrained, restrained aid to ukraine in this conflict, although it is absolutely obvious that now we are talking about not just a war against ukraine, and we are talking about the genocide of the ukrainian people by the kremlin. i think that israel, both as a country and as an israeli society, is in a rather difficult situation. we must not forget that in israel specific relations with the russian federation are first of all independence, let's say so, from the public opinion of that part of the population of israel

who are natives of russia or the former soviet union, and many parts of them over time associate themselves with in russia, rather than with some other former republics of the soviet union, and in israel, there will be elections soon. if you listen to israeli analysts, including those who speak on our broadcasts, you will hear that hmm. well, there are things that are simply not necessary to discuss in the public space and i think that this is exactly what is being done, that is why it seems to me that we should pay less attention to statements er and look at the result that er we will feel over time, that is, well, i do not want to be some kind of prophet but it seems to me that er the attitude of israel's position to the supply or non -supply of weapons to ukraine. it may change. it

is quite possible. i think it will change. let's wait for the fumes throughout the country and just wait. i think that the price can be conducted er and er the less they are nearby in the public plane the better for the case, we will see the result today, mr. volodymyr, there was supposed to be a telephone conversation between the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov , and the minister of defense of israel, beni hansen, but as reported by the 13th channel of israeli television - is it these negotiations or this conversation was slightly delayed due to the statements of hans about the supply to ukraine, but what does it mean in diplomatic language when the planned talks between two ministers are postponed due to certain phrases or statements of one of the ministers. i think that it is not in any this does not mean that hans does not want to speak

, it may mean that he does not have an answer yet to the questions that, it is clear to everyone, our minister of defense will put before him, and that is why he probably asked for a certain pause . that this is a decision that he cannot make, er, or in person. should this be discussed individually at the government level ? because do you know diplomacy in such contacts, now we are not accepted that a conversation took place for the sake of hearing, it is better to postpone it and hear in a few days, yes, i very much hope that this will be the case, at the same time today the chancellor of the

federal republic of germany in lawsholz announced that the tactics russia regarding the unscorched earth on the territory of ukraine will not help russia win the war, and he condemned the strikes by combat drones on the critical infrastructure of ukraine. this is a war crime that will not achieve its goal, he said in a government statement to the bundestag at according to shultz, this is russian bomb and missile terror and, in the end, an act carried out forever , just like the mobilization of russian men for war. you have already said, mr. volodymyr, that the un is quite seriously discussing the issue of the possible exclusion or, let's say, the limitation of russia's rights in the organization of the united nations, including in the security council, you and i

talked several times on our broadcasts about the status of the russian federation, how it gained authority in the organization of the united nations in 1991, and you talked about what is there legal points regarding the legal succession of the russian federation is that it declared itself, or let's say the cis countries, consented to the fact that russia had the right to succeed this ussr in the un, and according to the un charter, after all, russia had to go through the entire procedure from joining the un to its acceptance into un security council, taking into account the fact that literally 10 days ago, the un general assembly voted on a resolution condemning the annexation of the territories of ukraine occupied by russia, and we received a result of 143 votes, and there were only a few against, is there a chance to throw this out

russia from well, at least from the un security council, so that they do not interfere with the united nations organization from fulfilling its main mission in the world. well, such a chance . although it seems tempting. well, this is not something that can be achieved within a few days or a week or even several months, but the fact that the process took place, i have already said about it, it is important, it is also important that there is an isolation that you mentioned , sergey which means 143 votes, it means two -thirds with a margin now. the point is that well, what how to formulate the decision that we are trying

to make, whether it will be a limitation of powers, it will be the exclusion of russia, well, it is more difficult, or it will be an appeal. it seems to me that i have already talked about this earlier on the air, everything will be an appeal to the international court of the united nations with a request to issue a recommendation or to answer the question of whether russia is there legally or illegally, now you know , many experts from the field are arguing, it seems that it is unrealistic to exclude russia because it illegally occupies the place of the former soviet it is better for the union to follow the path of its exclusion for violation of the un charter, others are against the complete opposite of demetral, there are those who believe that in general both or both of these options are unrealistic and it is better to follow the path of limitation

of powers and even here, well, how ridiculous it sounds, but here is literally the last publication a couple of days ago it appeared and caught my eye, it seems to be an english lawyer, quite well known, who directly said that the delegation of ukraine to the un should raise the question of non-recognition or withdrawal of the powers of the russian federation as illegally occupying a place and instead offering to occupy this place in ukraine, that is, you know, a kind of chinese precedent in 1971, when the republic of china was excluded from the zone of the security council. will i accept it? well, what will the place be given to the chinese people's republic, which still exists today? well, it looks quite fantastic

. to provide security but in terms of the authority to review them and so on, it seems to me that there is a basis for seriously dealing with this issue, and there is another opinion that also sounds quite funny, but if you ask lawyers, they will say that no, there is absolutely nothing funny here. the fact is that the statute has a provision that clearly and at length signs several points on what a state is, that is, that in order for a state to be a member, it must have, uh, it must have certain characteristics, there, too, the territory of the population uh- is the elected government, the administrative system, and so on

, so it's not funny, but after those famous decrees of putin on the accession of four subjects of part of ukraine to the russian federation , i.e. it means for any city that something has changed, the borders and the central wasteland of the russian federation as a country, and then the question arises, and today's questions about this one with these territories attached to itself hmm, is it a country that was a member of the un without these territories i will tell you how paradoxical it sounds, but from a legal point of view there are certain implications. and some lawyers advise the ukrainian delegations to seriously look into this issue. so

let's see. i think that these processes have only just begun. well, of course not. we talked about this yesterday. we are still talking about the reports of 2017, but today it has simply overtaken everyone, so much so that more and more supporters are appearing among the member states of the un to finally raise this question formally and officially. well, if we add to that that then in recent months, russia was really excluded from the membership of some organizations, including some of them, uh, well, they are part of the un system. so there are already precedents, it's interesting that the un is a universal organization, there it's more difficult because from some it is easier to exclude a committee or something under the organization there than from the united nations itself, but nevertheless it shows that nothing is not real. that is, i

will tell this uncle for several years, several months , literally because no one at all wanted to listen and now we are already actively talking about it, mr. volodymyr, and we don’t have much time left before the program ends. i would like to ask you about the decision of the verkhovna rada regarding the republic of ichkeria, chechnya, regarding the recognition of the territory temporarily occupied by russia, what does this step mean, and i’m sorry i didn’t hear the end, what does this mean the step of the ukrainian parliament regarding the recognition of the republic of chechnya, the territory occupied by the russian federation. i think that this is an extraordinary step, and it is here, it is very important. a signal, and a signal not only from ochkeria, because this republic is probably the most

affected by the very fact of being part of the russian federation, but it is a signal to others, for example , tatarstan, bashkiria, and a whole series of republics or subjects of the federation in the far east - and to myself , that is, well, these are actually mono-ethnic republics that have their own national color, eh, which have eh, well, some of them are also rich in raw materials. i already said everything mendeleev's table, so it's a signal for them , too, that they can fully expect that in eurasia, it's clear that if they ask this question, it's not about some guerilla war there, which ukraine will

support, these republics are going easy about their desire, and such a desire will come sooner or later, this whole modernization, which is primarily based on numbers. was volodymyr yelchenko it was a program verdict serhiy rudenko also held goodbye attack under a false flag the american institute for the study of war notes that russia is creating an information field for an attack on the kakhov hpp to justify its retreat in the kherson region what does this mean for an energy crisis in europe due to russia's aggression in brussels the eu summit dedicated to energy is taking place