western analysts or leaders there exaggerate the possibility of, for example, the influence of china on putin in the session of ending the war, this is a very big mistake , because in my opinion china did not agree on the mfa, they already talked there with russia when he attacked or did not attack, there was no agreement. moreover, russia actually fooled china in one way or another because, uh, china, too, he saw the warning from america, moreover, america officially warned china that according to their data, the attack would begin, and the russians, meanwhile, were telling the chinese that no, nothing will happen, that is, in fact, they cheated , that is, the russians cheated the chinese, that is, even though they are the largest closest partners . and i am the opposite point of view of the authoritative historian timati snyder. he believes that the responsibility for the war still rests with china because they still tried to stop russia and china seemed to believe that the war would really last three days and therefore did not want to do it. you see. well, i do not agree with you. i

would respond to snyder's topic by saying that biden clearly said that in december of last year he said that there will be no american troops on the territory of ukraine, and with this biden actually opened the way to ukraine in russia when russia realized that america will not enter this war, which is a fact, yes, that is, there are completely different opinions here , and of course i do not defend china, but i know that china just if you will, we are talking about the position of china , then it will continue to adhere to this neutral position, nothing can now shake it, in principle, in this position, it has no reason, as it were, russia is weak and ukraine, they can not move this deep so that china somehow changed his position regarding this conflict because he has just taken a very good neutral position for himself, which gives him all the advantages of being apart from this conflict. well, we

also talked on the air of the marathon with a chinese expert on chinese issues, he says that china in any case with any development of the scenarios in this war, china remains in fact the only exit acquirer yes. if ukraine and the united states and our partners win yes, then he gets the opportunity to a weakened russia and will use their energy resources of the land there and here you can develop if russia wins, then china's hands are freed in the matter of resolving the taiwan issue, that is why china takes such a neutral position because it is satisfied with this war. with weapons, you already understand that after the use of nuclear weapons, no one will have any advantages, and china also warned putin that this is the end, yes, this is the finish line. that is, this is already such a limit

that he cannot even cross, but anyway that is, we know that in principle then he is mostly bluffing, we still do not believe that he will use nuclear weapons, it will really be the end of not only war, it will be the end of the world, and the chinese clearly understand that there will be no benefits for the acquirers, let 's say that then it was used more moreover, china gave us guarantees. as you know in ukraine in december 1994, on the same day as the signing of the budapest memorandum, china joined a few more. i want to develop this topic now and talk with china.

your guarantees can be. and we talk about it. we talk about it. you understand, we don’t talk about it. unfortunately , maybe it’s just that since 1994, a lot of time has come for him. i don’t know about the existence of this document . we have many people who have forgotten because our policy is not consistent towards china. this year we are celebrating the 30th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations with china, but you do not see any celebrations or commemorations. yes, yes. although, well, the presidents exchanged telegrams , that is, when in their 30s, sysinfin congratulated zelenskyy back in january of this year, and zelenskyy responded to it, that is, in principle, such a dialogue is taking place instead. this is not the dialogue that we need. the ambassador

as the main communicator, for example, between governments, yes , that is, you understand. so when even zelensky makes, for example, statements to the chinese press or to the chinese audience, or simply makes statements about the chinese, the chinese hear and know everything, but you understand, in the chinese sense, diplomacy is not done through the mass media, but it is done through diplomatic channels. and everyone, if we want to achieve something with the chinese, we still have to use those channels that are familiar to them , that is, to convey some messages that they have there will consider and then react as they see fit, because if we just say them and then say what you are against and whether it is there, then it will never work like that, i will just remind one of the last statements of volodymyr zelenskyi regarding china zacetuyu now we see that china is taking a balanced position , i would very much like them to help ukraine, although i will say frankly that they are not sending weapons to russia, they are already helping such cautious statements yes yes well, our active

diplomatic policy is in case we start to implement it she could change the neutral position of china, well, look, i think that look at the position of china, after all, if we sneak out, we have a triangle there: beijing, moscow-kyiv. yes . player in washington, let's make this square, when it will be, i think it's even worse because you understand china. in my opinion, china still advocates , that is, he says. it officially says to china that, for example, even his relations with russia do not affect relations with kyiv, that is he wants to see an independent policy from kyiv, on the contrary. if we involve a third party, yes , then china will ask questions. is your position agreed with washington, your position on independence? china wants to know our independent policy and you also have a position, and our viewers should understand that during the entire 6 months of the war, we have been talking with

china, putin never once, despite his close contacts with the infin, did not turn to sisinpin for any help in resolving the ukrainian conflict, that is what is important and the chinese are also very they understand well, that is, if there is no request for their help from putin, then they understand that even if they act as a mediator, even as a cardigan who tries. they would do that, although i would like to risk my image, but to end up offering something that would not work later. well, if we want to understand whether ukraine is preparing and supporting ukraine, we need to pay attention to how this war is covered in china, and i suggest that we talk about this in a moment. to find out the attitude of ordinary people to the russian-ukrainian war, just look at what is being written about in the chinese media.

what kind of narratives are promoted in those local media? monitoring uh, she investigates the narratives of all the messages that are promoted in the chinese media kateryna good night to you, good day, good night please tell me what is being written about this war in the chinese media, and what the chinese themselves know and say about it, uh, uh, yes, really, thank you very much for the fact that you propose to separate what the chinese say and what the official media write , er, here i will first say that in china, since there is a party, in general, and almost all media are state -owned, moreover, in china, a firewall works, that is, a program that prohibits the chinese have a lot to visit of foreign sites in the main news site a-a how

does china promote so that the chinese do not receive any disinformation because of the official position broadcasted by the changes a-a since the beginning of the war e-e also e-e from the cdp a-a the president of the chinese party announced that china supports peace in ukraine , supports state sovereignty, and so on, and that is why there are a lot of official statements that are broadcast in the media, as well as those made by chinese high-ranking officials, they sound exactly like so we are for peace we are for the state the integrity of social networks and private mass media, which still exist in china , you know, since the beginning of the war, there was a lot of negativity towards ukraine, since ukraine is perceived as a state that is a

pawn of nato the usa is the main enemy of china, but thanks to the ukrainian counterattack, there is now more and more analysis and mockery of the russian army, as well as admiration for the strength of the ukrainian army, that is, at the level of users, the perception improved somewhat with whom it was in february, march-april and even may ms. kateryna and war is called war and is it said in the chinese mass media in china in chinese social networks that russia literally attacked ukraine and annexed its territory? is it presented as this special military operation ? in china, in the official media , there are several terms that are used in relation to war, but war is still not officially

called war. perception or the russian-ukrainian conflict is an official position and there is no such thing in the official war news regarding the analytical reviews that appear in the official mass media, that is, those written directly by the authors, and the terms war also appear in social networks partly have the terms war, but here i will add that e-e social networks are also monitored in china e.e. unreliable content with which the party does not agree is deleted and even at the e-e level such mentions as war or calls for the use of any weapon are monitored there so that's enough

often, content in social networks, precisely with calling a war a war, it is deleted, the only place where it can be found recently, e.e. most of it is in the mass media in analytical reviews of the authors. if you fly to china now, stop an average citizen and ask what you know there about the russian-ukrainian war . he will answer. what do you think, well , i won't even say what i think. and what i hear from my ex-colleagues who now live in china or even ukrainian acquaintances, first of all, china well, really, a lot knows about e-e war in ordinary chinese people know, and they know much better now, that there is a separate state of ukraine, that there are other cities, what is our capital, and so on, because

before the war, unfortunately, they simply thought that ukraine was some part of russia, and when they asked where are you from and i said i'm from ukraine and they told me about it later well done we love him, but now this situation has really changed they know that we have a separate president and a separate language and that it's a separate country but uh, it's still here i want to note that due to the fact that there are a lot of news sites they are closed to china and to china because of fireball, and that is, they mainly receive information from local changes and local social networks. they still believe that russia attacked because ukraine wanted to join the napa, that russia is taking revenge for the fact that we are organizing terrorist attacks on its territory, as if it were an explosion of the crimean bridge. this is the fact that ukraine is leaving

the usa in general, and it is stepping on russia. i want to destroy it, that's why the vast majority of chinese still perceive us that way . i'm sorry thank you very much yes yes yes yes let me just add a little bit that the official chinese snakes exist that far they are three years before the war god signed a contract with the russian media satellite for the exchange of a-a news information and on the quotas of this exchange of course, we do not know the details of this contract vs. we know for sure that the supply of news from russia to china is quite active, and i can say that fortunately not everything that russia writes is still printed by china, it is probably something that is more or less positive, i.e. and in this matter china is trying to balance and somehow make its own

separate position from the one promoted by active russia, but still war is not called a war. billion nation, if it thinks that this is not a war, but some kind of operation, somehow change their minds and change the politics of the party globally, we will not be able to. no, yes, we can . in fact, i think that there are methods. an active position, as it was already said, the change in the chinese attitude happened because of our actions at the front, that is, you understand when the chinese always said that the russians are a self-belligerent nation, yes, and now they say no, they say there, i even see such a program on chinese television that they say russians are cossacks and ukrainians are cossacks, that's why they and they were always afraid

of russian cossacks who destroyed the chinese, for example , at the beginning of the 19th century, and in fact, the image of a russian cossack is scary for a chinese , for example, and he is afraid of him. and when he sees that the person he was afraid of is being destroyed by the ukrainians, yes , the ukrainian cats, they understand, that means these people are stronger, and that means that one way or another the narratives are actually changing, and this is also shown on chinese television, and even if we are , there is a social network, well, there are no social networks because here we have facebook there and everything there are a few and there are a lot of them and there are even whole networks imprisoned specifically for a more pro-ukrainian position, there are of course tiktoker bloggers and there are all these things, but as they correctly said that they can be blocked that is, if you write anything at all that goes against the masters, then of course they will block your world, it can cause outrage. however, the attention of the authorities

is the outrage of this massive pro-russian party, for example, they can accuse you of everything. but it's all the same. that's what i'm saying i know such social networks where ukrainian positions in china are expressed quite cautiously, but quite openly . forces of ukraine, but you understand, but it is very slow , and this is if we are talking about society, as it was also correctly said that the official narrative does not change at all, in fact it does not change, as it was at the beginning of the war, and so on the case when when the chinese foreign ministry stated that he had not heard anything about the shelling of kyiv when he was asked directly at the briefing of the chinese spokesman of the chinese foreign ministry how do you comment on the shelling of kyiv and he said i nothing and it was tvr he said i don't know anything i don't no

i hear that means at some stage even for high-ranking officials this information is blocked yes that is , it is not important for them but there was an important remark that the shelling by iranian drones opened with dogs so nice to talk to you about the cooperation between iran and china, does it really exist factories for the manufacture of microchips in china it is american microchips now they have stopped and there is a version that it is precisely american microchips that were delivered from china and early i do not exclude anything to be honest i cannot comment on this the fact is that the chinese are chinese cooperating with iran, miran was the largest supplier, we are, in principle, one of the largest energy suppliers to china, well, before russia or next to russia and saudi arabia there and other countries near the east, that is, the chinese are one of the

key countries engaged in the production of oil and gas in iran, that is, in their cooperation is very close, and of course they also get closer on the basis of their anti-americanism and so on, and that is why i believe that i do not know whether there is an elemental base in these chinese and iranian drones specifically from china, that is at the moment, as you know, even some european partners still demand from ukraine and kyiv authorities to clearly show the stuffing of this drone and show what is there, so that we can show whether it is really there, on what basis, on what basis do we say that it is the iranian one drones, maybe they are delivered not assembled to russia, but already assembled in russia, and that’s why she says that these are russian drones , geraniums, yes, and not some kind of horror, well, that is, it can also be and that’s why we can show the french their stuffing in the russian military technology and in germany and other countries, this is exactly what i am saying, we may not know.

it was discussed whether it was on the air or not. well, for example, two sides, russian and ukrainian, are fighting with chinese drones . no one talks about it, if you know the sevastopol sevastopol was fired at by a huge chinese drone for $9,000, but no one says that china is taking part on the side of ukraine. that is, it is such a war. and now it is a hybrid war when we simply have a market. even through third countries, these drones or some projectiles can enter to the zone of the ukrainian-russian war, and there and there, indeed, then there is already a position there, then to decide who is our enemy and who is not, and the fact that the factories for the manufacture of american microchips on the territory of china have stopped, you can use them, it will have an effect. of course, this is an influence. i believe, the interesting information was that russia began to receive a lot of defective chips from china. that is , it is about 40% of all the chips that russia currently receives from china, they turned out to be defective and not working. yes, this is

also interesting. they are produced in some artisanal productions, that is, not in large factories that have been stopped, and russia may also buy all the fakes from some small companies, and they produce a low-quality product, and now there is a problem, this is the internal consumer of news in china, and the average chinese who little by little we heard that they are beginning to change their opinion and their attitude towards these events, and er, little by little , the term that this is really a war is being introduced. some kind of more public and public - changes in public rhetoric in this conflict because the government forms an in- if it sees that the people start saying something wrong, they began to correct you who are advancing bit by bit about the fact that it is

still a war, it can only to be with the presentation of compactness, that is, you understand, i will say. maybe our viewers do not know about this, in fact, as soon as the war began back in march, in fact, in march, china officially centrally sent out lessons to all universities, even to secondary schools correct understanding of the ukrainian-chinese conflict, the ukrainian-russian conflict, and this was an official task of the party to reset for all universities for all schools. even small children had to think about the conditions that existed there. it was clear that we were fighting against what was there with american pyralism. so, that is, communist communist submission, of course, but there is a video. i found it there in chinese social networks, too, where, for example, the teacher himself is sitting in front of him with 11 such children, 7 years old and 10 years old, and he is behind them

after 15 minutes of persuading ukraine to be right in this conflict, he himself recorded it on video and posted it, but this video was so fast, and what arguments did he use, he said, he said, there is a very interesting dialogue, so you don’t say how do you know that russia is good, they will say well, where are the grandmothers from the tv over there? these are the children talking. and he says, and now i will prove to you that it is wrong, and he shows. and who attacked? and who did that ? the children raised their hands and before that there were only three of the fifteen who still doubted there. they said, who said for ukraine, three raised their hands. and all the others raised their hands that they were for russia, and after 15 minutes, that is, he told everything. well, that's what the chinese do who think yes and take they are not afraid of their courage, they can be punished after that, that is, he can be fired for this, and so everyone works out this program that the party has ruined for them. and if we take into account that there are many of these chinese students or scientists, they studied in russia, then of course they will tell how they will prepare their

lecture, they will usually prepare lectures on russian materials in the russian language, which they take, which they know, because these materials are usually more accessible to the chinese audience, and this, of course, is a big problem for us. that is, we have to develop our information the presence of the chinese field russia always does it and has always done and it does not harm the money, you understand, after all, it should be such a purposeful policy of the state to restore full-fledged diplomatic relations and step by step to move in er for the formation of understanding yes, this is a refutation of er as the teacher explained to the children, i remembered the story of the explanation of the second world war when germany attacked the soviet union with faith and the only question is where the border between germany and the soviet union came from when it never happened, and here comes the question of the partition of poland and the not-so-simple role of the soviet union in this war, yes, that is, for the chinese, it is the fact that we also

have a very wonderful narrative, in fact, which we do not use much, but it is also, that is china, which was, for example, in the 1930s, subjected to aggression by militaristic japan, this narrative, one way or another, in their historical subcortical consciousness of the chinese somehow overlaps with these events, because there are many parallels, that is, japan, which captured part of china first and then from there began aggression already on this under the guise of imperial ambitions ambitions yes, that is, the chinese never were, that is, they never considered even japan an enemy, yes, that is, japan was always there as an economic power that helped them no no no understood what happened to japan, that it decided now to conquer this territory, this is the narrative. sometimes he puts it there in parallel, here, like all the scientists in your academic fields . himself that he understands that he was a victim then, he then understands that

ukraine is also a victim in this context, but still, this factor, this attachment to the united states to the west, this is the counternarrative, let's say so many snakes use it and say no, this is not russia's war with ukraine is russia's war with the entire west . by those who hold back yes and convince them to support ukraine on this, friends, night watch nataliya ostrovsky evgenplitskyi oleksiy koval was with us in the studio, a journalist of internationals, a member of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies we hope that your knowledge about the complex asian country has expanded a little and, er, we all understood that it is necessary to work even with those who take such a difficult neutral position. see you on the air 45 echelons

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